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Former United Nations Special Rapporteur for Palestine Richard Falk on 21 March 2017 [Jehan AlFarra/Middle East Monitor]
Former United Nations Special Rapporteur for Palestine Richard Falk on 20 March 2017 [Jehan AlFarra/Middle East Monitor]

Two British universities have cancelled events planned for the launch of former UN Special Rapporteur for Palestine Richard Falk’s new book.

The professor of international law was scheduled to speak today about his new book, “Palestine’s Horizon”, in Middlesex University. But the London based university followed a decision by the University of East London yesterday to pull the event at the last minute.

MEMO hosts an event to launch Former United Nations Special Rapporteur for Palestine Richard Falk's new book in London, UK, on 20 March 2017 [Jehan AlFarra/Middle East Monitor]

MEMO hosts an event to launch Former United Nations Special Rapporteur for Palestine Richard Falk’s new book in London, UK, on 20 March 2017 [Jehan AlFarra/Middle East Monitor]

Since the cancellation, a pro-Israeli activist group based in the UK has confirmed that the events were pulled following their “intervention”.

Both events had been advertised on the universities’ events pages. East London University cancelled the talk, saying it took “the difficult decision” because “it became clear, the day before the event, that the University’s External Speakers Policy had not been adequately followed”.

The spokesman for East London denied that this was an attack on free speech and told MEMO: “We strongly believe that universities should be a place of debate and free speech. We would consider welcoming Professor Falk to our campus on another occasion if the appropriate policies and procedures were followed.”

Middlesex University press officer told MEMO that “concerns over safety” prompted the decision to cancel the event, while also confirming that the event could be held in the future if safety concerns were met.

While both universities cited logistic and procedural concerns as reasons for cancelling the talk, Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA), which claims to be a “volunteer-led charity dedicated to exposing and countering antisemitism through the enforcement of the law” issued a statement announcing that their “intervention” forced the university to cancel the speech.

CAA, which was set up in 2014 following the Israeli bombardment of Gaza to counter the rise of criticism against Israel, said: “The University had insisted the event would take place, but following intervention by Campaign Against Antisemitism, the university has now decided to cancel the event.”

Falk was the co-author of a new UN report which concludes that “beyond a reasonable doubt … Israel is guilty of imposing an apartheid regime on the Palestinian people”.

Read: Richard Falk: People must shame UN for quashing ‘apartheid Israel’ report

Speaking at a MEMO event on Monday, Falk said the language around Israel’s occupation of Palestine must change, if Israel’s claim to the land is to be seriously challenged and in order to move towards a more meaningful peace process. Rather than an “occupation”, which he views as an inaccurate term partly due to the length of time that Israel has now held on to the territories conquered in the 1967 war, he affirmed that instead Israel should now be called an “apartheid state”.

 

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  • Mike Abramov

    I can assure the readers that Richard Falk is not a man that can deal with challenging questions. At the meeting of the 21st of March 2017 at P21, he not only failed to answer my question on the subject of apartheid, but under duress from the chair person gave an evasive answer.

    • Ismail Oliver

      As if the readers would believe anything you say. Your assurances means nothing.

      • A.S.F.

        TRANSLATION: “I will boycott any answer or facts that don’t support my own “Zionist” bigotry and get in the way of my malicious enthusiasm for Israel and Jew-bashing. “

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You can always tell what a Zionist is up to by its accusations.

          Nothing can be more bigoted than the genocidal country stealing that the Zionists are always doing.

          • Jack

            TecumsehUnfaced talking about Bigots, you hypocrite admire and support the Killing regime of the Houthis in Yemen, that slaughter today thousands of Innocent civilians, children and women.

          • A.S.F.

            …By “IT’S accusations’? The fact that you can call another human being an “it” says everything that needs be said about you.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Look! A ZioNazi is complaining about being dehumanized after the vile savagery its cult has inflicted on the Palestinians.

          • A.S.F.

            You are beginning to sound like Charlie Brown’s teacher, in the comic strip, with all your, ahem, “Anti-Zionist sloganizing:…”MWAH-MWAH…MWAH-MWAH-MWAH….”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You already sound like a pig that gobbled the wrong mushrooms.

          • A.S.F.

            You know, its usually Muslims that like to refer to their foes “pigs” because of their learned aversion to pig products of any kind–and their being taught that anything having to do with the animal is “unclean.” So, I think you just unmasked yourself as a Muslim propagandist.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Poor thing! I almost feel sorry for your desperate meanness as you flail so impotently.

          • A.S.F.

            Your general purpose in life appears to be to throw flames and sling Anti-Zionist propaganda. Perhaps you are being paid to do it. But, perhaps not. Perhaps, you are just generally that craven. It’s a pity.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, it’s to blow away lies covering up continuing inundations of atrocities like these flowing out of the hate cult of Zionism.

          • A.S.F.

            MWAH, MWAH….MWAH,MWAH,MWAH….

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Again we here the bewildered bellowing of a member of the Zionist hate cult.

          • Jack

            TecumsehUnfaced is a hypocrite Shia Muslim who supports the Houthi killers in Yemen, that slaughter those days thousands of Innocent Yemenite civilians children and women.
            While playing a Humanist, collaborate with Helen4yemen that admires the Houthi killers too.

        • JGISD

          ummm… criticism of Zionism is not remotely the same thing as Antisemitism, and you and yours are not the victims you make yourselves out to be, so your actions in attacking people who are critical of Zionism aren’t defensive, they are terroristic and contemptible.

          • A.S.F.

            Too often “criticism of Zionism” is used as a politically convenient cover for “Anti-Semitism.” And it serves as hypocritical cover for the APARTHEID ambitions of Palestinian Muslims whose main problem is that they can’t tolerate even the mere idea of Jews breathing the same air space as they do. That is what their problem has AWAYS been. And they’ve been willing to sacrifice the futures and welfare of their own children because of it. If that hadn’t been the problem all along, they would have had their own statehood many times over–beginning with the first “two-state” offer made to them in 1948. You can crawl back under your rock now and come up with a new wormy excuse for your unrelenting prejudices.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Don’t be silly! Your Zionist cult hates everybody, including Jews that refuse to join it in its orgies of atrocities.

          • Steve Amos

            You know if you just read your sentiments on this page alone critically. You would have to conclude that you are mentally unhinged, you constantly contradict your own arguments in relation to any form of academic reason or evidence.

          • A.S.F.

            What I am quite sure bothers you is that people like me are distressingly consistent in backing up our viewpoints with statements of fact that are inconvenient to your prejudices. Aw, shucks.. Boo-hoo for you.

          • MissCostello

            “Aw, shucks.. Boo-hoo for you”:
            ‘Statements of fact’ ?? Well, there you go.

          • A.S.F.

            You really do sound like a nasty little twelve year old mean girl. And I think I am being generous with that age assessment.

          • MissCostello

            Oh dear. You’re ‘clued up’ on “nasty little twelve year old mean girl/s” are you? And I’m “being generous” there.

          • A.S.F.

            Typically nasty. And juvenile.

          • MissCostello

            Spot on.

          • Neutralone

            Boy, you sure love that Steve Amos fellow. You wholeheartedly agree with his every word. Do you think that he walks on water?

          • Neutralone

            I have read his sentiments. I have read your sentiments. By now you must “suspect” that I have many problems with YOURS. I have told you so, several times.

            I personally do not find anything mentally unhinged in anything written by A.S.F. Quite the contrary.

            I suggest you have a good look in the mirror.

          • Steve Amos

            Uhhh….. ok, but wait, are you telling me one Zionist is supporting another?
            In that case, and considering Jews make up less than one percent of the world and Zionist Jews being a small part of that. Well I would have to conclude that you three are all working together and completely ignore your username as you are anything but neutral.

          • Neutralone

            As you wish stevey. You once again prove your inability to think clearly and logically.

          • A.S.F.

            Funny how Anti-Zionists can say on the one hand that “Jews make up less than one percent of the world and Zionist Jews being a small part of that” (the last part of that statement being totally incorrect, by the way)–and yet, insist that said Jews and Zionists are overwhelming the rest of the victim globe with their boundless power, money and overwhelming genocidal presence. Ah, well–bigots seldom make sense. They just work hard to create chaos and inspire more hate.

          • Steve Amos

            I haven’t seen any comments suggesting that ,”Jews and Zionists are overwhelming the rest of the victim globe with their boundless power, money and overwhelming genocidal presence”, and can say for certain that I have made no such comment. My comments are concerned with Israel being an apartheid state. I have said that by its policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide Israel and zionism creates anti Semitism and any countries complicit make themselves a target for acts of extremism.

          • A.S.F.

            I have. The insinuations are constant, running the gamut of snide to blatant. It falls under the same category of constantly accusing Israel of “apartheid” without any shred of believable evidence…Which is how these conversations usually start and why reports that begin and end in that premise, like Mr. Falk’s latest little UN ditty, deserve to get relegated to the dust-bin. Because it falsely promotes prejudices based on misinformation propagated by people and groups with an even darker agenda…Ironically, an agenda that more closely resembles “Apartheid” than anything that Israel could ever come up with.

          • Steve Amos

            Well then! I’m so glad you said this, here’s your chance,
            1, Look at the report
            2, Pull out the flawed evidence
            3, Prove that the evidence is flawed
            I don’t want to labour the point but I’ve been asking you this for many days now, the only evidence is your disrespect for a widely acclaimed and respected academic, a professor at possibly the best known university in the USA, your biggest fundraiser.

          • A.S.F.

            The report is trash…Just like Falk’s theory that “Tel Aviv” was behind the Boston Marathon bombing was trash.

          • Steve Amos

            Yup, thought you’d say that, oh what a surprise another diversion.

          • A.S.F.

            It’s hardly a “diversion” to point out, quite specifically, how crazy this guy’s biased and paranoid nonsense gets.

          • MissCostello

            Well said.

          • Neutralone

            Well parroted.

          • Jack

            JGISD – I keep on writing comments, not because I am opposed to criticism , but because in all the duration since I started, there were ONLY TWO persons that really cared about the Palestinians.
            Meaning, we had an interesting correspondence, how and what should be done in order to get to a solution between our two nations, as once the Palestinians are going to live secured in their homeland, Israel will flourish too and the collaboration between the two nations, will bring to a new era in the ME .

            But the situation is, that ALL other commenters are here only because they Hate Israel and the Jews, they don’t care about the Palestinians and only harm the Palestinians cause.
            See for yourself that there is NO Palestinians commenter, as they are ashamed by the way those Jew Haters represent them.
            The Comments have no value at all, their aim is to satisfy their Jew Hate psychosis…..

          • JGISD

            Which is ironic, because most Zionists are locked into a hatred/fear/paranoia of all things non-Jewish when it comes to Israel.

            I know a lot of Zionists, and I know a lot of Palestinians. I don’t know a single Palestinian who wants to do harm to the Jewish people, either in Israel or elsewhere. I know hundreds of Jews who preach death to the Palestinians, out in the open. It’s mainstream. It’s acceptable. If an Arab were to suggest the same of Jews, we would lock them up for terrorism.

            That’s the true sadness to me, that so many people from such a noble religion and cultural tradition could bastardize the tenants of their faith so badly to justify such naked tyranny and terrorism against others. Even among the more moderate Zionist advocates, the argument continues to be that Jews are justified in their violence because they’re perpetual victims.

            In reality, Zionists bring that violence onto themselves by how they treat others. Chase back the Jewish experience through the millennium, and it almost always comes down to that. Even the Holocaust was precipitated and spurred on by a worldwide Jewish boycott of Germany starting in the 1920s, that cost Germany 20% of its GDP, and lead to the starvation of tens of thousands of people. That boycott had nothing to do with Hitler, who wasn’t even on the scene yet. It was strictly politics, just as it was at the end of World War I, just as it had been dozens of times in the previous century.

            Israel itself was the culmination of 18 months of terrorism, with Palestinian Jews killing 13,000 innocent people to drive anyone non-Jewish out of Palestine. Three 9-11s stacked on top of each other, and no mention of any of it in our history books because “Jews are victims.”

          • Neutralone

            Only a liar or a willfully blind fool could make your statement quoted here:

            “I know a lot of Zionists, and I know a lot of Palestinians. I don’t know a single Palestinian who wants to do harm to the Jewish people, either in Israel or elsewhere. I know hundreds of Jews who preach death to the Palestinians, out in the open. It’s mainstream. It’s acceptable. If an Arab were to suggest the same of Jews, we would lock them up for terrorism.”

            SOME Palestinians who want to harm the Jewish people:

            -EVERY HAMAS LEADER, EVERY HAMAS MILITIA FIGHTER, every Palestinian who stabs, rams a car, slits a throat, every Imam preaching death to Jews, the Palestinian founders of BDS, Palestinian marchers at BDS and anti Israel rallies, many of the PA leadership—thousands and thousands of Palestinians. Somehow YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED?

            Another example of PURE UNADULTRATED Anti-Semitic gobbledygook:

            “Zionists bring that violence onto themselves by how they treat others. Chase back the Jewish experience throughout the millennium, and it almost always comes down to that. Even the Holocaust….”

            AND ANOTHER:

            “Israel itself was the culmination of 18 months of terrorism, with Palestinian Jews killing 13,000 innocent people to drive anyone non-Jewish out of Palestine”

            What is almost tragic is that YOU CLAIM NOT TO SEE YOUR TRUE NATURE.

          • Jack

            JGISD – Your opening was promising and I thought that you will come up with some ideas’ but you are another grey person.
            Your first argument
            “I don’t know a single Palestinian who wants to do harm to the Jewish people, either in Israel or elsewhere”
            “I know hundreds of Jews who preach death to the Palestinians”
            are the end of the correspondence.
            you don’t need me, go to the Palestinian web site in Gaza and the west bank and all the fanatic Palestinian Muslims…… do you think that people are stupid.
            YOU don’t know any Palestinian ………
            but you know hundreds of Jews who preach………

            Go back to your old slogans and argumentation, you are the same as all the rest here….. nothing new.

          • A.S.F.

            Considering the sheer number of Palestinian terror attacks aimed at random Jews for the great crime of “breathing while Jewish”, your post is ludicrous from the very first sentence.

          • Neutralone

            There is a WAY to criticize which is acceptable because it simply presents straightforward information, without pejoratives and other subjective embellishment. Does what A.S.F is discussing meet “my criteria” or does it veer towards biased “anti” something or other?
            I also fail to understand how you can label comments to be “terroristic”. Perhaps you could explain.

      • Michael Abramov

        Ismail – were you there? No. So you can take your racist reply and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.

        • scorpion

          Not triggered are you? How intellectual you are! 😄

          • Mike Abramov

            You really are not up to debating with.

      • Neutralone

        I am a reader. Personally, I believe what he says much more than I believe what you say. Your misgivings are ill-placed.

    • scorpion

      Having proven you to be a liar on more than one occasion that doesn’t surprise me!

      • A.S.F.

        The only thing that you proven is that you’ve “proven” nothing. Which gives you something in common with Richard Falk (besides your hatred for Israel and malicious attitude towards Jews, that is.)

        • scorpion

          I have a malicious attitude to lying murdering Ashkenazis scum! Israel has no right to exist. Carry on waffling!

          • A.S.F.

            You can state that a whole country has no right to exist–but its the OTHER side that are “lying murdering scum?” Your own waffle seems to sinking under the load of its drippy poisonous syrup. Carry on!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            hey, it’s your savage European cult of Zionists that evilly decided to invade another people with genocidal country stealing!

          • Steve Amos

            A country colonised st the point of a gun in the last century can expect to receive claims of illegitimacy.

          • A.S.F.

            A would-be country that has turned down multiple peaceful offers of statehood to pursue a hostile modus operandi of duplicity and terror can hardly expect to achieve any semblance of legitimacy any time soon–Despite the arm-chair support of Anti-Semites like you, who cravenly like to parade their prejudices around in the “emperor’s clothes” of “Anti-Zionism–as though they deserve a “humanitarian” medal for it.

          • Steve Amos

            The whole first 5 lines here eloquently describe israel, funny that you can use the language but offer no supporting evidence against the report.
            It’s no wonder, because the report is completely true, if you don’t agree, prove it, don’t insult, don’t call me names, or tell me what I think, just prove it. If you can’t back up any arguments then you are just here to insult and attempt to bully!
            Really, read it, I would like to hear if you actually have a point.

          • A.S.F.

            List the exact five lines you are referring to—I want to make sure that you have no future built-in excuse to complain that you have been misunderstood or taken out of context. I will take them on, one by one.

          • Steve Amos

            The 5 line comment was in reference to your previous post.
            My challenge to you is much more simple, read Falk’s report claiming that israel is an apartheid state, and dis prove any of his evidence.
            All of the evidence is clearly referenced and the links work, I have tried them.
            It’s not a massive report and can be read in an hour or so, I am happy to hear another side but petty insults simply reflect their author.
            I do not wish to offend, I have a deep respect for all true faith and although I have none I confess to some jealousy as people of true faith are in my experience also self fulfilled and happy.
            I struggle to come to terms with a theocratic state of any faith including Islamic.
            Didn’t god forbid David from building his temple because David raised an army when god told him to have patience?
            For me it’s the same today, if god promised to deliver the land why do you not trust him?
            I do believe that a chap called Amos warned israel once before.

          • A.S.F.

            You were the one who referenced “the whole first five lines”, Chump, that you declared to “eloquently describe Israel.”. Put up or shut up.

          • Steve Amos

            A would-be country that has turned down multiple peaceful offers of statehood to pursue a hostile modus operandi of duplicity and terror can hardly expect to achieve any semblance of legitimacy any time soon
            Your words, not mine, as I said, a good description of israel.

          • A.S.F.

            I was referring to the Palestinians, and you know it. Israel is by no stretch of the imagination (even your’s) a “would-be” country. It is an actual legitimate country, fully declared to be an real honest to goodness actual state by virtue of a majority vote in the UN, when the UN was an actual force for good across the globe and not the Anti-Zionist “shill” it has regrettably become over the years. Israel, as we all know on planet Earth, has existed since 1948. There is no state called “Palestine” because the “Palestinians” refuse to accept all reasonable offers for that to come to fruition. The “Trans-Jordanians” living in British-ruled “Palestine” before Israel’s creation were mostly recent transplants from Jordan–hence, their name at the time; “Trans-Jordanians.” Jordan had been artificially enlarged to accommodate both Jewish and Muslim settlement but the Muslim part of the equation insisted on doing their accustomed “ethnic cleansing” dance that they continue to do even to this day–whether it be against Jews, Christians or each other. That’s what prompted the League of Nations and the British to insert themselves into the picture in the first place. The “Palestinians” (as Yassar Arafat began to call them in the mid-1960’s, for obvious political reasons) could have had their own sovereign statehood (which they never had before 1948) by virtue of the same UN Mandate that created the State Of Israel. Alas, the “Palestinians” REFUSED that option, just as they have been refusing all of the multiple “two-state” offers for statehood that have come their way–and gone by the wayside, of their own volition. Even after starting and/or declaring, multiple conflicts with Israel and LOSING, they blame their losses (otherwise known as their “occupation”) on the Israelis who they attacked in the first place…and then refused to sit down at a table with afterwards to negotiate fair and defensible (for both sides) borders–thus ensuring that they would remain “occupied”. They refuse to co-exist peacefully with their neighbors (including Egypt–=Egypt has been forced to blockade them too, for their own security reasons) and insist that their own APARTHEID ambitions are the only option they will ever deign to consider. No matter how much bigoted dimwits like you want to insist on trying to replace actual history with your preferred “revisionist” one, the truth is the truth and your lies remain lies. And just because corresponding lies sadly, sometimes come out of the mouths of misguided Jews-in-Name-Only like Richard Falk, doesn’t make them any more true–it just makes him look pathetic and bizarre and people like you more viciously opportunistic.

          • Steve Amos

            Thanks for the brainwashed history lesson, none of which contradicts the report that clearly evidences how israel is an apartheid state.
            Just read the actual report, check the references and prove it wrong, opinion and bad attitude just prove how important it is to have the debate.

          • A.S.F.

            The fact that you call my ACTUAL FACTUAL “history lesson” a product of “brain-washing” while hyping Anti-Zionist propaganda that is so entirely baseless that even the UN can’t (and won’t) release it under their own name, shows how idiotic your posts have become. Your constant attempts to hype the indefensible doesn’t make it any more defensible (Duh.)

          • Steve Amos

            The UN have not said the report is not true or that they disagree with the findings, they have withdrawn it because they say due process wasn’t adhered to during its publication.

          • A.S.F.

            The UN Secretary General stated that he found the report to be biased and unacceptable as written. The reason it didn’t go through “due process” — a fact that you, yourself, pointed out– was that the backers and producers of this report knew darned well that the report was baseless and that it would most likely never pass muster on its own merits. The media circus that followed, with the the head of of said production committee quitting and then being feted with the highest award that the Palestinian establishment had to bestow upon her (along with, I suspect, a corresponding “cash award” culled from “Humanitarian Aid Funds”) while Anti-Zionist activists screamed about her being “forced out” is typical of the show-boatting lies promoted by the “Pallywood” press. It’s a nasty business, alright…and the nastiness is on YOUR side of the fence. Try cleaning up your own backyard. That can only benefit the Palestinians. But if your real interest is to dump on Israel and its Jews rather than actually help the Palestinians improve their lot, you won’t give that much of a thought, I am sure.

          • Steve Amos

            Now perhaps, you might refute any of the UN sponsored report co authored by Falk.

          • A.S.F.

            Falk’s hypotheses are grossly biased and insupportable. Paying any attention to him at all lends him more of an appearance of legitimacy than he deserves. The man is a self-serving loon, masquerading as an “academic”–but he doesn’t even come close. The UN report is as false and biased as he is. Which is why the Secretary-General refused to get behind it. The report is so transparently biased that it could not even pass muster with the decidedly Anti-Israel/Pro-Arab-interest-serving UN. That should tell most people with a firing brain cell and no axe to grind against “Zionists” something…which, of course, lets people like you out of the equation. So sad. Too bad.

          • Steve Amos

            It seems,(I wish I could say surprisingly), that you are unable to comment without insult.
            If you are so right then why do you prevent open debate in this way, anyone with conviction would welcome open debate to display their evidence.

          • A.S.F.

            You have yet to produce any “evidence” to argue with. For you to decry being denied the opportunity for “open debate” is laughable. “Open debates” require one to possess a functionally open mind. Produce something that resembles fact instead of your usual propaganda-laden blather and insinuations against others and let the “open debate” begin!

          • scorpion

            Tay Sachs playing up? YAWN!

          • Neutralone

            You said:>>”Israel has no right to exist.”

            That is a hateful statement which goes against the views of the international community, international law ,and probably the views of the country you live in. That view places you in the company of Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as the Tyrants ruling Iran, -all despised as terrorist enablers or actual terrorists.

            Your hatred is poisonous, like the scorpion you named yourself after.

      • Michael Abramov

        Mr ‘Sting in the Tail’, when you get to personal insults, you have lost the argument. You can call me what you like, but it amounts to ‘nothing’. Now, go away and think of an intelligent and intellectual argument for our debate.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You can’t be serious!

          Apartheid Israel

          By Chandra Muzaffar, March 21 2017

          Using international human rights law as a basis, the report provides ample evidence to show why Israel practises apartheid in various facets of governance. Land policy is one example. Land occupied by Israel between 1948 and 1967 can only be owned and used by Jews and by law excludes non-Jews some of whom have documentary claims to the land that go back a few centuries. An even more insidious mechanism employed by the Israeli regime to exercise control and domination is the fragmentation of the Palestinian population into various categories. The authors of the report call them ‘domains.’

          ->http://www.globalresearch.CA/apartheid-israel/5580968

          • A.S.F.

            Anti-Zionist Anti-Semites approve of the report. Gee, what a shock. But it doesn’t exactly put a whole new spin on the whole thing. So, stop trying to pretend that it does.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Of course, it does. It reveals how corrupt the U.N. is. It betrays integrity at the demand of psychopathic criminals. Your ZioNazi cult soils everything it touches, even fine Jewish people. It has even murdered millions of them by blocking their escape from Hitler.

            Sacrificing Europe’s Jews

            The correlative to the acts of collaboration with the Nazis throughout the 1930’s was that when attempts to change the immigration laws of the United States and Western Europe were contemplated in order to provide token refuge for persecuted Jews of Europe, it was the Zionists who actively organized to stop these efforts.

            Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: “If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative.” [84] This obsession with colonizing Palestine and overwhelming the Arabs led the Zionist movement to oppose any rescue of the Jews facing extermination, because the ability to deflect select manpower to Palestine would be impeded. From 1933 to 1935, the WZO turned down two-thirds of all the German Jews who applied for immigration certificates.

            Berel Katznelson, editor of the Labor Zionist Davar, described the “cruel criteria of Zionism”: German Jews were too old to bear children in Palestine, lacked trades for building a Zionist colony, didn’t speak Hebrew and weren’t Zionists. In place of these Jews facing extermination the WZO brought to Palestine 6,000 trained young Zionists from the United States, Britain and other safe countries. Worse than this, the WZO not merely failed to seek any alternative for the Jews facing the Holocaust, the Zionist leadership opposed belligerently all efforts to find refuge for fleeing Jews.

            As late as 1943, while the Jews of Europe were being exterminated in their millions, the US Congress proposed to set up a commission to “study” the problem. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the principal American spokesperson for Zionism, came to Washington to testify against the rescue bill because it would divert attention from the colonization of Palestine.

            This is the same Rabbi Wise who, in 1938, in his capacity as leader of the American Jewish Congress, wrote a letter in which he opposed any change in US immigration laws which would enable Jews to find refuge. He stated:

            It may interest you to know that some weeks ago the representatives of all the leading Jewish organizations met in conference … It was decided that no Jewish organization would, at this time, sponsor a bill which would in any way alter the immigration laws.[85].

            ->https://www.marxists.ORG/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch06.htm

        • scorpion

          The truth isn’t an insult. The only nothing here is you, as for intelligent and intellectual arguments bit rich coming from a liar. You found out who Theodore Hertzel is yet?

          • Mike Abramov

            Don’t bother with replying.

      • Neutralone

        Personally, I have not yet seen ANY OCCASION where you have proven Mike Abramov to be a liar. Please SHOW ME a few of your “proofs”.

        • MissCostello

          In that case, you’re not looking hard enough.

          • Neutralone

            So YOU help me out. YOU apparently know were to find them. So, show me a few of those examples.

          • A.S.F.

            CRICKETS***CRICKETS****CRICKETS*****If she’s not getting an opportunity to get her Jew-hate on, she’s not willing to play…especially if she has to ante up real facts.

          • Neutralone

            You are right about our little missy.

          • Neutralone

            SECOND REQUEST

            So YOU help me out. YOU apparently know were to find them. So, show me a few of those examples.

    • Joseph Kelsall

      I have been to Palestine on several occasions and seen apartheid in action. But, do you really need the claim of Israel as an apartheid state needs to be proved? How long have you been studying the behaviour of the IDF in the Palestinian Authority area? Not long enough!

      • A.S.F.

        TRANSLATION: “MAYBE I am not lying about having been to “Palestine” (which I weep and wail about not existing while I claim to have been there.) And, if I was there, I expect everyone to believe that I went there with an open mind and saw both sides of a story that I refuse to admit any possibility of there being two sides of a story to.” Unbelievable.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Hehe! Cameras always mess you liars up, don’t they?

          Israelis torturing non-Jewish children. Australian documentary film. Viewer discretion.
          ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=iqL048x4msM

          Israel kills Palestinians , Courage here هنا الشجاعه
          ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=3G0P2QBkT6w

          Occupation 101- Palestine VS Israel
          ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=1gTQZVfH16M

          Israeli Checkpoint Cruelty
          ->https://youtu.BE/QorJMPtz1Fw

          Officer Points Loaded Weapon into Face of Palestinian
          ->https://youtu.BE/xEmQVxfgIzw

          The daily humiliation of Palestinians at Israeli checkpoint
          ->https://youtu.BE/_nQB7LbXjAM

          This is why Palestinians hate Israel : you won’t see this on Zionist owned media
          ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=E23jXF_Naf4

          • Helen4Yemen

            Excellent videos ! Thank you for posting.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re welcome! I know you will be generous sharing.

          • Docteur Ciseaux

            The truth is “antisemite”

          • A.S.F.

            The unfortunate truth is that there will always be vicious Anti-Semites like you around. But, the truth also remains that you will continue to be defeated the way that you always have been. The only question is, how much damage will you manage to inflict on the human race in the meantime, until you are.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Still mendaciously trying to equate being against the savageries of your Zionist cult with hating Jews, eh?

          • A.S.F.

            Still spewing ridiculous inflammatory rhetoric that means nothing, eh?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            See how deeply mired you are in the vile ZioNazi cult?

          • MissCostello

            The *TRUTH* will set Palestine FREE.

          • Steve Amos

            So true

          • Jack

            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
            PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
            against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
            today there is no difference between Jordanians,
            Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
            tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
            a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
            that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
            people’ to oppose Zionism.

            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
            While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
            Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
            reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
            a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” .

          • Steve Amos

            Utterly childish. Keep shouting tho, a real good advert for your mindset.

          • A.S.F.

            YOUR “truth” will sink the hopes of the Palestinian people. And you won’t care a bit.

          • Jack

            docteur merde – You just concluded all the comments here…..
            The commenters should thank you, as you sum up the issue, that it has nothing to do with Israel, it is all based on comments from Jew Haters like you period.

          • Jack

            Shocking video must watch, Houthi killers massacre in Taiz

            Shocking…… but not for TecumsehUnfaced who admires and supports those Houthi Killers.
            That slaughter today thousands of Innocent Yemenite Civilians, children and Women

            https://youtube*com/watch?v=sMCBIsgsbKA

            (Please replace * with dot)

          • MissCostello

            “This is why Palestinians hate Israel”:
            This is why the civilised *humane* WORLD hates ‘israel’: not even worth a capital letter.

          • A.S.F.

            This why “Anti-Zionists celebrate and gloat over such propaganda…Because they are sick bigots.

          • Neutralone

            Jew haters keep posting youtube videos to support their propaganda efforts. They gloat about their youtube “evidence” , which they claim would NEVER be found on Zionist owned (MEANING JEWISH-OWNED) media. But youtube is no less Jewish owned than other media.

            And youtube contains videos preaching, and supporting, HATRED of Israel, Jews, Muslims, Liberals, Conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, Christians, and so on. There are youtube videos to support every position and every point of view. Could ALL the contradictory videos be correct? IMPOSSIBLE!

            Videos can be created to support EVERY point of view. Videos can lie. Videos can distort. Videos can deceive.

          • MissCostello

            ” Videos can lie. Videos can distort. Videos can deceive”:
            We *know*: and NOBODY does it better, than cruel, vindictive, racist, apartheid ‘israel’.

          • Neutralone

            Tell me, missy. Are you even CAPABLE of addressing facts in a logical way? None of your comments have demonstrated anything more than a simple-minded girl who parrots cliché phrases but knows nothing about the issues.

          • Steve Amos

            Touché, you have more than demonstrated you credentials in relation to this issue. A zionist=a racist.

          • Neutralone

            Stevey, you have PROVEN yourself incapable of rebutting the facts. You and your girlfriend have nothing but lies and insults in your arsenal. Unfortunately, you are both too hypocritical to admit when you are wrong. Pity.

          • Steve Amos

            And still no evidence against the publication from Falk, you remember, it’s what this page is about before you tried to hijack it with bizzare accusations, was it you that actually told me I was a Sheite Muslim?? You guys are weird, this page is a great advert for Falk and demonstrates,(even you must admit), that this important debate must be heard.
            When it does, I will endeavour to attend, and if you can find a way to shout my name, I promise, in the spirit of good will, I will buy you a drink.

          • Jack

            The Report from the “no one to consider or take attention to” , that for you and your ilk is the New Bible……
            The report has already disappeared in the sewer, like all other transparent pathetic delusional persons, that tried the same in the past and faded away… Perhaps only the smell would remain.

          • Neutralone

            I have NEVER told you that you are a Shiite Muslim. I have provided you with FACTS and REASONS why your slanderous claims are inaccurate. You are too prejudiced, too hypocritical to dig into the facts and treat each statement on its merits. Instead of actually thinking, you dismiss it out of hand. Cowardly, hypocritical and dishonest.
            You have admitted that you are not by any means an expert, That is obvious from your comments. BUT STILL you praise “the report by Falk as an accurate reflection of facts on the ground as supported by the evidence referenced in the report and many other reports”.

            The report was commissioned by a group of 18 Arab countries under the ESCWA. This is a UN Agency, but it was done IMPROPERLY, DECEPTIVELY without any prior consultations with the UN Secretariat. And the person they “hired” was known in advance for his MANY YEARS of speaking out and writing reports against Israel. This report and previous reports he wrote have been disowned by the UN the EU among others. The reports conclusions were GUARANTEED in advance.

            WHY would the ESCWA engage a KNOWN Israel hater to write an “independent” report, knowing in advance the results he would produce?. WHY would they issue the report under the UN imprimatur WITHOUT ASKING OR EVEN TELLING THE UN that were doing so? WHY was Falk not legitimately engaged by the UN? WHY are they trying to fool the public?

          • Steve Amos

            If it’s all lies then how come the collective brain of all three of you zionist entity’s cannot challenge any of the evidence in the report?
            You have spent three days insulting and accusing anyone that says this debate needs to be had and for what?
            If as you say he is incapable of defending his stance you should relish an open debate where you can easily ridicule his evidence.
            The only possible reason can be that you are scared of the debate because in fact you will lose spectacularly.

          • Neutralone

            I asked you some very simple questions. You do not need to spend a lot of time to research the facts in order to reply to what I said.

            To have a proper debate with Richard Falk would require a large investment of time and effort, involving thorough and proper research. I do not have the time to do so. Neither do you.
            I KNOW that Falk’s anti Israel claims has been DEBUNKED by experts. I KNOW that he was hired by Arab governments specifically to say these negative things about Israel and that he has clearly earned his fee. I KNOW that NO PROPER UN STUDY can be undertaken without the UN giving both prior and subsequent approval. WHY, if this were really a proper UN study, would they not follow the required protocols and why would they SNEAK the report out into the world, making it a fait accompli?

            What do YOU know? You ignore all my questions . YOU SAY this subject should be debated but YOU REFUSE to debate. You eagerly accept Falk’s report, as well as every other negative claim against Israel, because YOU are so anti-Israel that you automatically take those claims at face value.

          • A.S.F.

            He would like us to quote parts of the UN/Falk report as a way of letting that disgusting poison loose into the air…In other words, he wants us to help him with his propagandizing. You know what I say to that. If “Steve Amos” has points he thinks he can make, he can make them on his own–so we can easily disprove and discredit them on their merits, the way we have been doing.

          • Steve Amos

            I freely admit to not having all facts at my disposal, you are the one not tackling the subject of the page, this debate should and will be heard, too much effort is a pathetic excuse considering the enormous effort undertaken to prevent debate.
            A very weak and unconsidered response there bub, but then the defence of any oppressive apartheid state is always going to be weak, its south Africa all over again, and it will be over soon.

          • Neutralone

            Strange how you freely admit to not having all facts at your disposal, but DO NOTHING about learning the facts. On the other hand, YOU claim that it is a pathetic excuse to state that to properly counter Falk’s claims would require a large investment of time and effort, involving thorough and proper research. Very hypocritical of you.

            Perhaps you might spare some of your time to study the following:
            Why Israel Is Nothing Like Apartheid South Africa

            nytimes. com/2017/03/31/opinion/why-israel-is-nothing-like-apartheid-south-africa. html?_r=1

          • A.S.F.

            An Anti-Zionist like Steve Amos=a self-righteous bigot who is too cowardly and craven to own up to what he really is.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Shocking video must watch, a Palestinian is
          hit in the head by a European Jew. Scary!
          https://youtu*be/p4FiizZirN4
          (Please replace * with dot)

          • Jack

            Shocking video must watch, Houthi killers massacre in Taiz

            Shocking…… but not for Helen4yemen who admires and supports those Houthi Killers.
            That slaughter today thousands of Innocent Yemenite Civilians, children and Women

            https://youtube*com/watch?v=sMCBIsgsbKA

            (Please replace * with dot) !!

      • Helen4Yemen

        Shocking video must watch, a Palestinian is
        hit in the head by a European Jew. Scary!
        https://youtu*be/p4FiizZirN4
        (Please replace * with dot)

        • Jack

          Shocking video must watch, Houthi killers massacre in Taiz

          Shocking…… but not for Helen4yemen who admires and supports those Houthi Killers.
          That slaughter today thousands of Innocent Yemenite Civilians, children and Women

          https://youtube*com/watch?v=sMCBIsgsbKA

          (Please replace * with dot) !

      • Mike Abramov

        Joseph – I am attuned to the needs of the underdog. I am also attuned to the call for the left-wing to demonise Israel with the Apartheid label because it likens Israel to S. Africa. There the similarity ends. The Palestinians are not Israeli citizens. The Palestinians have never accepted their fate and dealt with the future, unilike the Jews, and have pandered to the media for sympathy and they have got it. The allegation of Israel as apartheid is rubbish. 2,000,000 Arabs, blacks browns and whites all live together and have a parliament. Need i say more.

        • Steve Amos

          Millions of Palestinians are denied voting rights, the forced and gerrymandered fracture of the Palestinian people in order to maintain total geopolitical and military control. YES, I think you have a long way to go in order to spread your misinformation in any convincing manner.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – the Intellectual ????, the claimed Teacher????, the queen of England !?!, that knows everything better then anyone and everything he spews is a fact.
            “Millions of Palestinians are denied voting rights”

            Are those MILLIONS in the west bank are Israeli citizens NO !
            Do they want to be Israeli citizens, NO.
            Are the Palestinians in Gaza denied voting rights NO, – they voted for Hamas who rules them as a dictatorship as most Arab regimes.
            Are the Palestinians in the west Bank denied voting rights NO, – the Voted for Fataḥ (PLO).

            Are the Muslims in Israel denied voting rights NO ! – their elected party القائمة المشتركة has 13 sits in the Israeli Parliament.

            Now take you FACTS and write another report as falk.

          • Steve Amos

            How easy to say that people that, for example, were born in Jerusalem and have lived there for generations are ‘permanent residents’ but not citizens.
            Israel practices many racist policies to fragment and disenfranchise the Arabic population, the Knesset has passed laws that, for example, make it illegal to have an opinion that questions the theocratic status quo.
            These kind of policies are clearly racist tools of the apartheid regime and are straight out of the South African regime that was eradicated.

          • A.S.F.

            Hamas has executed more than 30 Palestinians within the past year alone. Since you are so concerned about the health, safety and welfare of the Palestinian people, why don’t you concentrate on THAT and clean up your own backyard, for a change?

          • A.S.F.

            CRICKETS****CRICKETS***CRICKETS

          • Neutralone

            After Israel captured East Jerusalem from Jordan, and Annexed it, ALL Arabs living there were offered citizenship. Those that accepted are now Israeli citizens and have full rights of citizenship. The vast majority REFUSED and instead CHOSE to be classed as permanent residents of Israel.

            There are NO policies to fragment and disenfranchise the Arabic population. There are NO laws making it illegal to question the theocratic status quo.

            Everything you claim in this comment is a lie. You are repeating Nazibarat propaganda, straight out of Der Sturmmer.

          • Steve Amos

            Article 7(a)of the basic law:Knesset(1958), prohibits any political party in israel from adopting a platform that challenges the state’s expressly Jewish character

            Seems pretty clear to me and anyone else
            Typical racist apartheid state . Make it illegal to oppose

          • Steve Amos

            Then there’s no right of return for Palestinians with documented provinence to israel, at the same time incentives are given to almost anyone that is Jewish from anywhere in the world. Utterly and openly racist policy invoked in order to maintain majority as you disposses the indiginos population.

          • A.S.F.

            In other words, “Steve Amos” knows he can’t argue that last point so he is just going to throw out more “Pallywood word salad” that he hopes will sound “politically correct” enough to pass for making some kind of point when it doesn’t even come close. That’s kind of pathetic, actually.

          • Neutralone

            You state that the above clause prohibits any political party in israel from adopting a platform that challenges the state’s expressly Jewish character.

            HOW does that “make it illegal to HAVE AN OPINION that questions the theocratic status quo”?.

            HOW does that prevent East Jerusalem Arabs from becoming citizens?

            HOW does that fragment and disenfranchise the Arabic population?

          • Steve Amos

            I don’t even think you three are different people. You offer half baked argument about semantics and technicality, typical tactics that are aimed at confusing the issues.
            The report and every other report along with video evidence, the census, and nearly a hunderd years of documented atrocity are just dis regarded.
            You can waffle between yourselves all you like but here in the real world, we are not prepared to suffer a racist murdering apartheid state. More and more of us are lobbying for ourselves, collectively engaging with our politicians to divest. Making everyone we meet aware of the real causes of global terror and how to challenge them, we will not be silenced, we will never stop. BDS will work, and if you’re still complicit when the day comes, you will be held to account.
            Really fellas, whatever you had to do in national service, yknow to get your hands bloody the way they want you. It doesn’t mean you can’t find your way back to humanity, give up the unsinkable fight and spend the rest of your days making up to the Palestinians you have subjugated. Perhaps, if you work hard, if you have enough time, you can save your souls.

          • Neutralone

            The above reply reveals the truth about you-that you are paranoid and delusional. Not only are you spouting nonsense, but your nonsensical reply has no connection to the comment to which you replied to.

            So-keep up your crusade if you choose to. Ignore facts. Ignore reality. Continue proving to everyone the bankruptcy of your claims and the incoherence of your thought processes.

          • A.S.F.

            If he is a teacher, my bet is that he is a teacher on the UNWRA payroll.

          • Steve Amos

            By splitting the Palestinian population into separate enclaves so they cannot have a unified voice. By introducing rules that say living under occupation they cannot take part in their own system. By refusing the right to return for Palestinians with a documented provinence in israel while simultaneously allowing any Jew to gain citizenship. By stealing land and preventing access so you can claim it’s not in use and claiming it. By terrorising and killing hundreds of innocent men women and 500 children in a single horrific act. Really I can go on but unlike you I’m not being paid here and I do have proper work to do.

          • Neutralone

            All you do is spout Nazibarat talking points. You are probably too ignorant to even realize how ignorant you really are.

            Having said that, there is still NO EXCUSE for you not to admit you are in error, even when your errors are clearly pointed out to you. That, Stevey is dishonesty and hypocrisy.

          • Steve Amos

            I freely admit I am not by any means an expert, I freely admit that you may have found grammatical or even semantic errors in what I may have posted.
            The substance of my comments I stand by in all regard, the report by professor Falk is in my most humble opinion an accurate reflection of facts on the ground as supported by the evidence referenced in the report and many other reports.
            You can whine on about whatever you want but it won’t change the absolutely certain fact, (I can say this about what I personably observe), that most people already accept that israel is an apartheid state.
            I don’t care if that doesn’t fit a zionist, (therefore racist), agenda. I’m not on here to hurt or protect your feelings but to present my objection to the stifling of a debate that must be heard.

          • Neutralone

            You admit that you are not by any means an expert, BUT STILL say that “the report by professor Falk is in my most humble opinion an accurate reflection of facts on the ground as supported by the evidence referenced in the report and many other reports”.

            The report was commissioned by a group of 18 Arab countries under the ESCWA. This is a UN Agency, but it was done improperly without any prior consultations with the UN Secretariat. And the person they “hired” was known in advance for his MANY YEARS of speaking out and writing reports against Israel. This report and previous reports he wrote have been disowned by the UN the EU among others.

            WHY would the ESCWA engage a KNOWN Israel hater to write an “independent” report, knowing in advance the results he would produce?. WHY would they issue the report under the UN imprimatur WITHOUT ASKING OR EVEN TELLING THE UN that were doing so? WHY was Falk not legitimately engaged by the UN?

          • A.S.F.

            “Zionist, therefore racist”…Just like some people who are trying to co-opt the women’s movement are now pontificating that a woman can’t possibly be a Zionist and a feminist. Funny how some people who call themselves human right activists think they have an absolute right to tell others what they can and cannot be, according to THEIR dictates. That goes WAYYYY beyond mere hypocrisy.

          • A.S.F.

            The funny thing is, Israel has Arabs and people who rabidly campaign against Israel and its government in the Knesset. While any Palestinian who dares speak against Hamas or the PA ends up in jail, tortured or dead.

          • Neutralone

            Can you find a way to get Steve Amos to recognize a little reality?

          • Steve Amos

            So basically each time israel ‘annexes’ another chunk of Palestinian land, expanding ots occupied territories, it gives the remaining Palestinian population an impossible choice.
            1 Become complicit in the occupation by turning their back on their own history and becoming Israeli citizens.
            Once they are in the system they have a vote, they can chose oppression and apartheid or apartheid and oppression.
            2 Maintain some self determination, refuse to sell out to the occupying force, remain Palestinians under occupation and forgo voting rights that are meaningless to them anyway.

          • A.S.F.

            Hamas executes anyone they want for “collaboration with the enemy” and the PA jails whomever they want for merely disagreeing with any of their policies or positions or, God Forbid, protesting their outrageous habits of graft and corruption. NEXT!

          • MissCostello

            You’ve ‘LIKED’ your OWN COMMENT again! What kind of fool are you??

          • Neutralone

            I am the kind of “fool” who discusses issues with intelligence and factual backup.

            You, on the other hand, are the kind of fool who is known as a “useful idiot”. Someone who parrots extremist propaganda without understanding anything about the topic, because it is “fashionable” in certain circles..

          • A.S.F.

            Again, I was the one who “liked” Neutralone’s last comment. I notice that NO ONE “liked” your last comment. Are you jealous? I can understand how someone else’s ability to employ reason to defeat the pitiful arguments of those who merely labor to promote prejudice might grate on your nerves a little.

          • A.S.F.

            Do you have any other point to make besides that one? It’s getting kind of old.

          • Steve Amos

            Why would you want voting rights in a system that will not allow opposition to any Jewish motions, if you’re not Jewish it cannot represent you.

          • Neutralone

            Instead of apologizing for your previous erroneous accusations, you divert to a new complaint.

            In answer to your latest bit of negativity, I ASK YOU-Why would the Israeli Arabs elect 13 members to the Israeli Knesset if your above assumption is legitimate?

          • A.S.F.

            DUUUUHHHHHHH! Anti-Zionists like to ignore that fact since it doesn’t fit within their preferred mind-construct of Israel being “apartheid”–although the Palestinian goal of destroying Israel so they can replace it with a completely Jew-free state definitely DOES fit the definition of “apartheid.”

          • Jack

            aka Steve Amos so now the number went down from MILLIONS !!! to to the Arabs living in Jerusalem WHICH ARE NOT CITIZENS OF ISRAEL, AS THEY DON’T WANT TO BE CITIZENS OF ISRAEL.
            This is your level of stupidity and made up facts.
            You are BORING with your routine drivel LIES !

          • Steve Amos

            I think we’ve covered this at least once, I’m not paid by the hour so I think I’ll skip trudging back through it.

          • A.S.F.

            If you are being paid even a dollar a day to promote propaganda on sites like this one, you are grossly overpaid.

          • A.S.F.

            Pretty stupid argument, considering that there haven’t been free elections in the Palestinian territories in years. Abbas is twelve years into a four year term of office. But, according to news reports coming out of the Anti-Zionist press, those elections are due to take place any minute now. Uh-huh.

          • Michael Abramov

            How can the Palestinians vote in Israel? They are not Israeli citizens, They adopted the identity of Palestinian since 1967. Prior to that, they were Arabs. In order to put this conversation in to context, you need to know the history of N. Ireland from 1916 until now. The similarities are quite uncanny. Only from the 1990s, did the IRA realise that the best way forward was by negotiation and not the route Hamas is taking.

          • Steve Amos

            What a complete load of nonsense, you can’t just make stuff up and throw Northern Ireland in the frame.
            Palestine is not made in in 1922 like Israel, it was already there, Palestinians living under occupation are still Palestinians. Just because the occupying force make up some Mickey Mouse ‘laws’ to say they have no rights to vote unless they disown their historical rights doesn’t give anyone the right to decide their true identity.
            In any actual democracy, parties can stand for the interests of their constituents, in israel and the occupied territory’s any party that questions the Jewish, ( in reality zionist), agenda is not allowed.
            It cannot be called a democracy, so what is it?
            Given the numerous reports of every kind most people in my experience can only conclude it is an apartheid state.

          • Steve Amos

            You give Hamas the same footing in the Knesset that Shin Fein has in NI stop the blockade, take down the walls and fences, share the wealth, allow return of exiled Palestinians and a whole lot more an then we can compare NI

          • Mike Abramov

            Steve – I am all for dialogue, but you must try and keep an open mind. I have been an amateur historian all my life.

            Palestine was originally Syria/Philistina renamed after the Jewish Rebellion of 135 AD by the Romans as a punishment for the failed rebellion. Prior to that it was Judea Sumeria and Israel.

            Palestine is a region, NOT a country or nationality until 1967 when after the 6 Day War Yasar Arafat recommended that their struggle should be nationalist, not racist.

            Palestine, barring 13 years of intransigence, has never been independent. It has been ruled by the Muslims (Saladin), the Christians, the Muslims again, the Mumluks, (Egypt), the Ottomans and finally the British Mandate. until 1947.

            Democracy? In the Knesset. there are 24 parties of which six are Arab. The Israeli Arab enjoy equal rights in Israel with no distinction between Sunni or Shiite. Arabs can be openly gay in Israel without the fear of being executed, unlike Gaza.

            Apartheid? The UN is now removing this word from it’s list of derogatory names for Israel. It fails to meet the definition of the word.

            Jews have lived in the Holy Land since it’s inception (Joshua ref: Book of Exodus and Leviticus)

            Problem? The Arabs do not want Jews in the Holy Land and hence the wars of 1948, 1967 and 1973.

            Question? If it was Jews being ‘suppressed and occupied’ in the Holy Land would you be campaigning for an independent Jewish state?

          • Helen4Yemen

            If Palestinians are “Trans-Jordanians”, then please tell me:

            a) who the natives are?
            b) what did they look like?
            c) what language did they speak?
            d) what kind of food did they cook?
            e) what religion did they practice?
            f) how did they dress?
            g) where are they now?
            h) how many of them are there now?
            i) what are they called?

            If the Palestinians are not the natives of Palestine, who is?

            a) Ashkenazi Jews of Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Hungary?
            b) African Jews from Ethiopia, Ugandan, Nigeria, Zimbabwe?
            c) Arab Jews from Yemen, Morocco, Egypt …. and so on?
            d) South American Jews?
            e) Asian Jews from India, Japan, China?

            WTF is your choice?

          • Michael Abramov

            Helen – calm down, or you will make yourself ill with anger. This site will not be the same without your comical contributions.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Big difference: Irish are native to their land, the Ashkenazi, at confirmed DNA of 99.9% European and 0% ME ancestry is an alien colonial settler in Palestine Big, big , difference.

          • A.S.F.

            The Palestinians are “denied voting rights” because their own governments strong-arm them and refuse to hold elections. Abbas, the supposedly “moderate” Palestinian leader, is twelve years in to a four year term in office. Pfffftttt!

          • A.S.F.

            Millions of Palestinians are denied the right to vote In the Palestinian territories because their own governments refuse to hold elections. Abbas is twelve years into a four year term of office. And Hamas executes any Palestinians in the Gaza Strip who they accuse of “Collaborating with the Enemy”…otherwise defined as Palestinians who dare to go against their dictates in any way. Can you possibly get any more transparently and flagrantly hypocritical? I guess “Taqiyya” does that to a person–especially one who is posing as a “fallen Catholic.”

  • Fred Skolnik

    Apartheid is the least of it. Here is Falk jusifying himself on his website and my comments (still being “moderated”; he certainly doesn’t like to be challenged):

    Richard FalkMarch 22, 2017 at 9:26 am #

    Dear Rabbi Youdovin:

    I am sorry that you have denigrated our report without reading it. It was reviewed by three anonymous scholars of world reputations
    that had some connection with these issues but were not visibly identified, and we did not choose them. Each was extremely positive, although
    making some suggestions for clarification, which we followed. Each appraisal treated the study as a contribution to scholarship, and as a stimulus
    to discussion. Remembering that ‘the occupation’ has gone on for 50 years, there is a need for a new discourse more descriptive of the realities
    confronting the Palestinian people.

    I am all for positive solutions, but without relieving this structure of control, which I do not believe can be explained by security considerations,
    I do not see a way forward. And I do not believe in ‘an economic peace.’

    I am surprised you brought up my article of more than ten years ago, which never suggested that genocide was taking place, but that Israeli policies toward
    Gaza reflected a genocidal intent manifested through the imposition of collective punishment. You might be amused that in the last few days I have been attacked
    as a Zionest apologist by Prof. Francis Boyle of Univ. of Illinois law school because of my refusal to pronounce the occupation policies of Israel as
    constituting ‘genocide.’ ‘So it goes’ as Vonnegut taught us..

    Richard Falk

    Reply

    Fred Skolnik March 22, 2017 at 11:48 am #

    Prof. Falk

    You seem reluctant to identify these anonymous scholars and it may well be that you don’t know who they are. But who chose them? Could it have been the same people who commissioned the report? Because I find it hard to believe that three unbiased scholars would label as “apartheid” a society in which a national minority, namely Israeli Arabs, eat in the same restaurants as Jews, travel on the same buses and trains, use the same public spaces, are treated in the same hospitals, treat Jews in these hospitals as doctors and nurses, serve as lawyers and judges in Israel’s legal system, teach and study in the universities, serve in the Knesset. This is not the situation for which the term apartheid was coined. Even I know that and I am not a scholar.

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    Fred Skolnik March 22, 2017 at 11:55 am #

    “but that Israeli policies toward Gaza reflected a genocidal intent manifested through the imposition of collective punishment.” I will presume to speculate that Rabbi Youdovin is not amused. I certainly am not. What you are saying is truly despicable, namely that we, Israel, had it in our minds, “intended,” to commit mass murder, and what is just as bad, that we are capable of it, just like the Nazis. Have you no shame?

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    Fred Skolnik March 22, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

    I will also add, parenthetically, that, as you know, a blockade in time of war is legal, and the inevitable suffering caused to a civilian population as a result of a blockade does not come under the definition of collective punishment.

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    • Larry Saltzman

      What Israel is doing to Gaza is not war it is a prolonged pogrom. Israel is slowly destroying Gaza through its’ blockade and punctuating Palestinian suffering with genocidal acts whenever it feels like it. I used to believe Gaza was like the Warsaw Ghetto, now Israel actions have progressed to the point where I think of Gaza as a large concentration camp.

      • A.S.F.

        Hamas is slowly destroying Gaza through its prolonged exploitation of the Palestinian populace for its own jihadist purposes and financial gain. The fact that so many Palestinians are complicit in their own exploitation and self-destruction is tragic but not really Israel’s fault.

        • Michael Abramov

          Sir – I totally agree. Well said.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Since when did you call the savage, thieving ZioNazi thugs, “Hamas”?

        • JGISD

          Hmmm… are you really sure you want to compare the decades long physical and emotional terrorism of Zionism with the only means of protecting themselves available to Palestinians? I’m not sure you should wag your tongue so much while you are standing on a mountain of corpses of children that you helped to create, on land that the vast majority of the world accepts isn’t yours.

          • A.S.F.

            Hamas continually fired rockets from the store they kept in UNWRA schools and the shot off from launchers set up inside densely populated areas in the Gaza Strip and you want to blame the “Mountains of corpses of children” on Israel? Hamas used the entire Palestinian populace as human shields while they secreted themselves in underground bunkers. More than 167 Palestinian children have died while being used as labor in terror tunnel construction. Senior members of Hamas loot the Palestinian coffers and execute Palestinians for vague crimes that they call “collaboration with the enemy.” Indoctrination of Palestinian children which focus on killing Jews for the glory of God and country is nothing less or other than a massive form of child exploitation and using said Palestinian children as their own little terrorist army is nothing less or other than child abuse. Your so-called “humanitarian outrage” leaves a lot to be desired.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Indoctrination of Palestinian children which focus on killing Jews”

            When Europeans were killing Jews left-right-center, the Arab Jews lived relatively peaceful lives. How dare you malign the name of the colonized? Do you think they want to kill “Jews” or whoever happens to be who is colonizing and terrorizing them?

          • Jack

            Helen4Yemen – I have seen this cut and paste LIE a 100 times. your made up history is pathetic
            You build your Agenda on ” Arab Jews lived relatively peaceful lives.”

            But then come History facts that blows your “brothers” story …..

            “in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.
            Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by the Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities.

            That’s the history facts, not your made up story’s

          • A.S.F.

            Yeah, well, in their eyes, their constant terrorism and efforts at “ethnic cleansing” are all forms of “heroic resistance” and “defending the sanctity of the Prophet and Islam.”

          • MissCostello

            LIAR! Not one shred of evidence to support your hasbara babble. Links, evidence, from CREDIBLE sources. And before you tell ME to prove otherwise, the onus is on YOU making the accusations, proved to be FALSE.

          • A.S.F.

            You are as uninformed as a rock on the ground and your rants make you sound like a stray from a particularly rabid flock of sheep. You have a typing finger…look up the information that has been repeatedly given to you for yourself, if you can tear yourself for a change away from your preferred Anti-Zionist propaganda and “Pallywood” sites.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Did the Palestinian invite the Lithuanian, German, Russian, American … Jews to come to their land, take over their land and start murdering them?

        • JGISD

          Do you ever say anything that isn’t from the Official Hasbara Playbook? lol.

          “The Palestinians are responsible for building walls, denying their own access to food, water, and jobs, and dropping bombs on themselves.” How much is Israel paying you to post this malarkey? Do you think anyone but Zionists are biting? because I’m not seeing it.

          • Jack

            JGISD – You played your game….. it was a nice try.
            Now you can get back to your routine Propaganda……

        • Helen4Yemen

          What have foreign Zionist LEECHES got to do with how the Arab people choose to govern themselves?

          • A.S.F.

            What have Arab terrorists, theocracies and human rights offending dictatorships have to do with how Israel chooses to govern itself?

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Israel” are the foreign Shlomo’s of Lithuania, Hungary, Russia, Poland, Romania, China, India and so on. Tell me how the “Israelite” whose origin is Ur in present day Iraq belong in Palestine? The “Israelite” are genetically Iraqis, right?

          • A.S.F.

            Wrong. Not that that will stop you from continuing to rave about “DNA” and mutter your made-up anthropological theories like a Yemenite political bag lady.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did I make this up?

            Tony Kushner DNA report

            97.5% Ashkenazi
            0.1% Finnish
            0.1% Scandinavian
            2.2% Broadly European
            0.1% East Asian
            99.9% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

            Source: PBS

          • A.S.F.

            Wouldn’t if be funny if we tested YOUR DNA and it come up with results that surprised even you? Your DNA smokescreen has nothing to do with anything, Helen.

          • Helen4Yemen

            But you are not denying that no Ashkenazi has even a tiny trace of ME ancestry, are you?

            1. All Ashkenazi score a minimum of 99% European ancestry. https://disqus*com/home/discussion/channel-semite/ashkenazi_dna/
            2. Midddle East People Score high in ME DNA. https://disqus*com/home/discussion/channel-semite/middle_east_north_africa_dna_39/
            3. Southern Europeans have large levels of ME ancestry vs ZERO for the Ashkenazi. https://disqus*com/home/discussion/channel-semite/italian_greek_types_of_dna/
            (Replace * with dot)

          • Helen4Yemen

            If not for a fake ancestry claim, tell me why the Lithuanians, Germans, Russians, Hungarian are on the land of the Arabs?

          • Helen4Yemen

            The DNA logic is very straightforward. If your ancestry is European, it will be European no matter where your are born or raised and if African, it will say African and if Middle Eastern, it will be Middle Eastern. That is why both Bill O’reilly and Alan Dershowitz scored 99.9% European despite the latter’s claim not to have any ancestry in Europe but only to the ME. But his ME score came at ZERO%.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You still have not given a good enough reason what the Shlomo’s of Lithuania, Germany, Russia, Poland … are doing on Arab land? What is the connection of the Shlomo’s to Palestine? Give me one good and convincing reason.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Why is it the business of Lithuanians, Germans, Russia, Hungarian how the Arabs choose to conduct their affairs?

          • A.S.F.

            Why is it the business of people like you to demand dominion over how Jews, in general, and Israel, in particular, can conduct their’s–and where? You need a mirror and a conscience to add to your meds (which I have no doubt that you refuse to take), Helen.

      • Jack

        Larry Saltzman read some of your comments, you are a fake.
        You are not Jewish, your name is Muhamed Salim or something like it.

  • Censorship !!

  • Larry Saltzman

    Missing from this article is the fact that Richard Falk is himself Jewish. He is a victim of a systematic plot by Zionists to shutdown the voice of the many of us who are both Jewish and pro-Palestinian. Palestinians have suffered greatly because of the nationalistic, undemocratic ideology known as Zionism. The sad reality is that if even Jewish voices are censored for speaking out against Zionism what chance do others have. The organization, Campaign Against Antisemitism, that intimidated two Universities into censoring Falk should be ashamed of themselves and should re-examine the core Jewish values that respect free speech and spirited debate. Campaign Against Antisemitism is not fighting antisemitism they are promoting the censoring of Jewish and other voices that disagree with them, that is disgraceful.

    • scorpion

      Not really charitable aims!

    • A.S.F.

      Alas, even Jewish people are sometimes afflicted with brain and characterological disorders and Richard Falk is a case in point.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        This evaluation from a person that believes in colonialist ZioNazi genocidal country stealing. Hilarious!

      • Jack

        Larry Saltzman is a fake, he is not Jewish, read his comments, his name is Muhamed Salim or something like it.

        • Neutralone

          I am very interested in seeing any evidence you have which proves your claim about Larry Saltzman.

          • MissCostello

            Ha! Aren’t we all…….

        • MissCostello

          “something like it”:
          You know he’s a “fake” but you don’t know his name?? Clever.

          • Jack

            MissCostello – aka Muslim Larry Saltzman is just a scum….. I don’t consider remembering this scum real name as a must.

          • MissCostello

            Without a doubt, you are as thick as a brick. Over & out. Blocked.

          • A.S.F.

            TRANSLATION: “I will block anyone who doesn’t share in, and celebrate, my bigotry which I am extremely proud of.” “MIss Costello”, something tells me that “Jack’s” life won’t suffer from your absence. And his arguments are not invalidated by it in the least.

          • Jack

            MissCostello – is the typical example for the low level “Pseudo Palestinians supporters”…..

      • Steve Amos

        Pot kettle and black come into my mind here.

        • A.S.F.

          Now, THAT’S a reply that truly means less than nothing because it is completely besides the point.

          • MissCostello

            Exactly how I would describe you.

          • A.S.F.

            Another voice heard from the sullen bigoted “don’t -you-dare-rain-on-my-Zionist-bashing-parade” gallery.

          • MissCostello

            Too right!! Deal with it.

          • A.S.F.

            You are celebrating the fact that you are a bigot?? Nice!

          • Zach

            You have to understand that, your honesty is to be desire and your opinion is “besides the point”.

          • A.S.F.

            You really should learn to speak English a little better if you want people to believe you are anything near what you portray yourself to be.

          • Zach

            See, your opinion is “beside the point”. I am sure my English is much better than your; at least it is factual. Idiot.

          • A.S.F.

            “Trolls” calling other people idiots are part and parcel of who and what they are.

      • scorpion

        Like the Tay Sachs you have? Pot kettle?

        • A.S.F.

          Tay Sachs? Man, are YOU ever reaching! All that effort, just to be needlessly vicious…Pathetic.

          • scorpion

            Boo hoo hoo nasty auntie Semite is treating me the same as the Goyim! Touch luck sweetie you give you take it and quit whining!

      • Zach

        A.S.F: I would not take you as a dust on his shoes. I met Mr. Falk few years ago when he gave a talk at the University of Washington in Seattle; then at a private party in his honer. He was the most gentle, fact speaking, modest person I have eve seen.

        • A.S.F.

          “Dust on his shoes, huh?” I am sure he would agree. Fact-speaking? Not even close. Does he say everything you want to hear? I am quite sure he does….in his gentle and modest way, of course.

          • A.S.F.

            …In fact, that must account for his recent remark about how people should shame the UN for quashing the report that was part and parcel of his Jew/Israel parade…because he is such a “gentle” and modest” gentleman.

          • Zach

            He is Jewish himself, idiot.

          • A.S.F.

            If you read my prior posts, you will see that I am quite aware of that fact. Mr. Falk has a strange family history. He was brought up in a household that was not only not connected to its Jewish roots, it actively rejected its Jewish roots. Which explains a lot about him. I don’t assume, as many people do, that most Jewish Anti-Zionists are “self-hating.” In fact I find that the opposite is true in a lot cases. I find that some very Orthodox Jews reject Israel because they have been taught that any Jewish state not brought about directly by the hand of God through the coming of a promised messiah is a blasphemy not to borne. And some Jewish Anti-Zionists, who consider themselves to be part of the cutting edge “intellgensia” and wannabe political saviors, reject Israel as part and parcel of their claiming to own moral superiority over other Jews, combined with a rather pathetic need to prove themselves acceptable to the Non-Jewish world. A healthy attitude is one that can be supportive of Israel’s right to exist while maintaining the right to be critical of its policies when and where criticism is warranted. But giving aid, traction and comfort to forces out to undercut the welfare and interests of the Jewish people as a whole is NOT acceptable, no matter who does it. And that is precisely what Richard Falk does.

          • JGISD

            You forgot about the Jews who reject Israel because it’s a land-grabbing, wall-building, child-murdering colonialist apartheid state.

            And that’s only the formal part.

            How absolutely quaint of you to imagine that Israel has EVER been about “the Jewish people as a whole.” Isreal has never represented Judaic principles, and it has never served he best interests of the Jewish people. Israel is a land belonging to others, stolen though decades of targeted hatred and terrorism, nothing more.

          • A.S.F.

            For YOU to pontificate about what has “EVER been about the ‘the Jewish people as whole'” or to think that you can accurately represent what Israel is about–especially in terms of its “Judaic principles”–is the utmost in arrogance. I suggest you slither back under your rock and try to come up with a different approach.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Being immersed in the ZioNazi cult, you can’t say anything else.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “. And some Jewish Anti-Zionists, who consider themselves to be part of the cutting edge “intellgensia” and wannabe political saviors, reject Israel as part and parcel of their claiming to own moral superiority”
            ___
            I am going to call a liar again because I do not know of any Jew who does not support the right of this foreign entity to exist on Arab soil. They say that they wanted the foreign Jews to live alongside their “Arab Semitic cousins” (laugh). Give me one name of any Jew who believes that the original sin – the arrival of goddamned foreigners to Arab land was wrong! I will apologize for calling a liar if you can name just one.

          • peepsqueek

            Whose land are you living on Helen?

          • Helen4Yemen

            “the welfare and interests of the Jewish people ”

            Considering that Ashkenazi Jewry makes up 90% of world Jewry and considering that his ancestral land is Europe, tell me what obligation the Arabs have to give up their land so that totally alien people can settle on it.

          • Steve Amos

            So… wasn’t David forbidden from building gods temple because he had blood on his hands? Got told him to have patience and that god would deliver the promised land but David raised an army to ethnically cleanse the population. Is this ringing any bells?

          • A.S.F.

            Resorting to bastardizing the bible, eh? The only thing that is “ringing bells” are the warning bells that warn one and all of the nonsense that is constantly being spewed by “Anti-Zionist” propagandists like you.

        • MissCostello

          I too have had dealings with Professor Falk; perfect gentleman, who has suffered considerable abuse for his principled stance on Palestine.

          • A.S.F.

            What a liar! THAT’S what you share in common with Mr. Falk.

    • Hani Esbaitah

      We just need more people, on both sides of the table, to think like you Larry. Cheers mate

      • Larry Saltzman

        Thanks for the kind words.

        • MissCostello

          TRUE words.

          • Neutralone

            Useful idiot parroting Nazibarat propaganda

          • A.S.F.

            They DO like acting like a rag-tag bunch of pre-adolescent bullies.

      • Helen4Yemen

        One side of the table is on its land, the other is foreign. Are you saying the natives should give in and give up their land because the Lithuanians, the Germans, the Russian, the Hungarians are armed and the colonized is without arms?

    • Helen4Yemen

      I have many problems with your statements:

      a) What do you mean you are “pro-Palestinian”? Palestine is Arab and the land of its inhabitants who are Palestinian Muslims, Christians and Jews but no Jews from Yemen or Ethiopia or Lithuania or Brooklyn or China. Do you agree?

      b) 95% of Jews both in the US and in Palestine did support the assault on Gaza both in 2009 and 2014.

      c) Zionism is based totally on the Torah that tells Jews to expel the gentiles and to take their place and if they do not, God said there are consequences to be paid.

  • Joseph Kelsall

    Since the arrival of Mark Regev in the UK, the zionists have started a new campaign of hasbara to minimise anti zionist publicity. Of course their main obstacle is the battle that they can’t win against mobile phone videos. How could Richard Falk be banned for telling the truth? Do not cancel meetings at the whim of zionists. Speak anywhere and fight any zionist restrictions on free speech. Buy a shemagh and show your support for Palestine.

    • Zach

      I agree with you. They people in charge are cowards for allowing the ban; why not , he is a Jew himself, where his prospective should weigh a lot.

      • A.S.F.

        Nothing gives an Anti-Semite more malicious joy than a Jew hell-bent on joining forces with them to harm the interests of other Jews. And if Richard Falk had any common sense at all, he would have seen that by now–and it would have given him pause.

        • Zach

          What about Meko Peled, Alan Pape, Norman Finkelstein, Israel shahak Elmer Berger (The Jewish Dilemma)…and many many more.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I think she calls them “self-hating” Jews. Remember, she’s very typical for someone completely immersed in a cult.

          • A.S.F.

            They are actually self-aggrandizing Anti-Jews. Do yo have problems with reading comprehension or do you just make it a regular habit to twist other people’ words around to suit your own purposes and hope that people will not notice that you are doing that? Troll alert!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Silly! “Self-aggrandizing Anti-Jews” is just what the ZioNazis are. They take Jews and work to make them into monsters or murder them by the millions. The ZioNazi cult is the worse thing that ever happened to Judaism.

          • A.S.F.

            Go two posts up and read what I wrote. That’s what I feel about Anti-Jews. And his name is Illan, not Alan.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you’re crazy. You think all Jew should be blamed for ZioNazi crimes against humanity.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Anti-Jews”

            Excellent. That is the perfect term that I will be using.
            Please stop stealing my Semitic identity when you use that
            very silly term of ‘antiSemitism” to describe hatred towards
            totally non-Semitic Jews.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Most of those you mentioned are actually Zionists but they know how to pass for non-Zionists. Pappe for example says that Zionism had good intention and that it was a noble cause. What irritates me the most about Pappe is when he says that the foreign Jews should live “alongside and not instead of” the Palestinians. Imagine that I come busting through your door and I tell you I am in fact the good guy since I am willing to share your house with you instead of kicking you out. Therefore, is Pappe not a Zionist? Sure he is. Pappe aught to know that Palestine is not his grandmother’s land.

            https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/according_to_pappe_there_is_good_and_bad_zionism/

            Please repalce * with dot.

          • Zach

            You are correct, I over looked it. and yes it is Illan (thanks for MS auto spellcheck)

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ms. goddamned liar. This predator said that the Palestinians are not native to Palestine and when I asked who else are the natives has kept running away from the question.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Only a lobotomized member of the perverted ZioNazi cult that regularly does atrocities to other people would say something like that. No one is obligated to protect Nazis of ZioNazis from their crimes against humanity.

        • Michael Abramov

          Sir – I was at the Richard Falk meeting at P21 on Tuesday night. I was the only Zionist there. In the room were some very devoted followers of this despicable man. He mumbled through an hour of Israel being apartheid, racist..blah.blah..blah, preaching to the converted. When I asked him at Q&A why Lebanon has 50 laws preventing Palestinians from working in Lebanon in certain jobs, which is apartheid, he did not answer my question. The chair insisted that he answer. His reply! ‘Read the UN Report’. At that point, I walked out shouting ‘thanks for “answering” my question’. He is weak against opposition. I personally did not find him very challenging, but I did find him very boring to listen to.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            More smearing by a ZioNazi thug lobotomized out of a conscience, so it can view the ZioNazi horrors with equanimity.

            Israeli Occupation Spraying waste water on citizens houses at Al-Nabi Saleh village
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=jR_SN3Jcg3g

            Crap Cannon: Israel sprays putrid liquid to control West Bank crowd
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=yCkFgmK1-dY

          • Mike Abramov

            Answer my points.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Which libel do you consider your proudest one?

            In return I give you truth…

            An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=ecQp1JLQMDc

          • A.S.F.

            In other words, he can’t.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            They were all unsubstantiated libels, the usual tools of the ZioNazi con game.

            Here is stuff easily confirmed.

            Zionism and Fascism

            The history of Zionism – largely suppressed – is sordid.

            Mussolini set up squadrons of the Revisionist Zionist youth movement, Betar, in black shirts in emulation of his own Fascist bands.

            When Menachem Begin became chief of Betar, he preferred the brown shirts of the Hitler gangs, a uniform Begin and Betar members wore to all meetings and rallies – at which they greeted each other and opened and closed meetings with the fascist salute.

            Simon Petilura was a Ukrainian fascist who personally directed pogroms which killed 28,000 Jews in 897 separate pogroms. Jabotinsky negotiated an alliance with Petilura, proposing a Jewish police force to accompany Petilura’s forces in their counter-revolutionary fight against the Red Army and the Bolshevik Revolution – a process involving the murder of peasant, worker and intellectual supporters of the revolution.

            ->https://www.marxists.ORG/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch06.htm

          • Omega

            Before opening your mouth to pull a straw man argument, you should have asked yourself why Lebanon has the Palestinians in the first place. But being the Zionist you are, you rather put the blame on others for something you caused.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            He can’t help it! His cult has lobotomized him.

          • peepsqueek

            It is not a straw man argument to ask why Israel is the only Country in the Middle East to be singled out for boycott in a sea of Islamic Countries with institutional apartheid. You certainly won’t answer it.

          • Omega

            The Palestinians in Lebanon are not citizens and thus, do not quality to work in certain jobs. Most importantly, they are in Lebanon and other surrounding countries due to the Zionists stealing their lands and displacing them.

          • A.S.F.

            Not an excuse that would satisfy Anti-Zionists of Israel acted the same.

          • Omega

            What is this silly straw man argument?

          • Neutralone

            You waste your time . This group of fanatics ignores or deflects away from anything they do not like or cannot answer.. They are hypocrites .THEY KNOW, Like every thinking person knows, that If people are made to suffer deprivation, it is the persons actually doing the oppression who are to blame. If LEBANON subjects Palestinians to Apartheid conditions, then LEBANON is to blame.

            IF Israel treated Israeli Arabs like Lebanon treats their Palestinians, THEN Israel would be guilty of Apartheid. But instead, Israeli Arabs live better, live longer, have more freedom, than the vast majority of the Arabs in ALL Arab countries. If the Lebanese allowed their Palestinians to live as well as the West Bank Palestinians, THAT would be a 100% improvement in their lives.

            So, stop wasting your time on these Nazibarat propagandists. They think that by ganging up on you, bullying and insulting you that they will be perceived as more important than they really are. TecumsehUnfaced,, Omega, Helen4Yemen are losers, they are hypocritical liars who have been exposed as frauds on other websites.

          • peepsqueek

            I get your point, and I am wasting my time with fanatics, however, a lot of people read this websites and they need to read the logical rebuttal. There are thousands of shares everyday on this site, so there are many who might consider other points of fact.

          • A.S.F.

            It is still up for debate whether some of them are the same person posting under different names and/or from multiple sites.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are a shameless habitual liar and if I am wrong, I will apologize. This horrible little European entity stuck on Arab land is a Nazi state. This Nazi state attempted at the total annihilation of black Jews when it forcefully injected black African with birth control to make them infertile. It worked! In just one decade, the black birth rate of Jews now in Palestine fell by 50%. The international media got wind of it and there was an uproar and the practice was stopped. That was genocide! That was Eugenics! That was murder of the unborn. That was white supremacy. Now tell me if the Ashkenazi in Palestine is not a Nazi?

          • Mike Abramov

            Now who is telling lies?

            Helen – where you go wrong in your arguments is that you take a piece of information sourced from a site that is vehemently anti-Israel and expect me to believe you?

            This comparison with Nazi Germany does not bother me. I know the truth. Israel employs Arabs, treats Arabs in hospitals, they share buses, trains, husbands, wives, the theatre, the cinema, music , the arts and democracy. Now, how is that similar to Nazi Germeny?

          • Helen4Yemen

            What is the connection of the totally European Ashkenazi to Palestine?

            Is the Ashkenazi of European ancestry at 99.9% and at 0% of Middle East ancestry as confirmed by DNA? Y

            This “Israel” is a totally made up word invented with the intention of making lily-white Europeans the genetic cousins of biblical Israelite. The Ashkenazi is just like the French in Algeria and the British in Kenya.

            What does the Ashkensazi have in common with a rapist? Both take what they want by force.

          • A.S.F.

            You still did not answer MIke’s question about how Israel’s conduct can be compared to that of Nazi Germany. How typical. Divert away.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Amazing how you the Nazi totally pretended you did not see the comment I wrote about the attempted holocaust of black Jews by white Jews?

          • A.S.F.

            Amazing how you NEVER seem to acknowledge the treatment of Black Muslims, female Muslims, LGBT Muslims and other sub-sets of Muslims BY Muslims in the Arab world. But, I suspect that anything that doesn’t allow you to get your Jew-hate on doesn’t interest you nearly as much.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why then did the Ashkenazi who is of European ancestry at 99.9%
            and of Middle East ancestry at 0% doing on that Muslim land?

          • scorpion

            They also did radiation experiments on Sephardic Jews, 100,000 of then they also stole 400,000 Yemeni babies and sold them to Israelis!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Many articles on this link how white Jews stolen thousands of Yemeni Jews.

            https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/what_happened_to_the_thousands_of_stolen_yemeni_babies/

            (replace * with dot)

        • Helen4Yemen

          Is there a genetic link between the folks from Lithuania, Germany, Poland, Hungary who call themselves “Jews” and the
          Chaldeans of Ur: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob?

  • A.S.F.

    Richard Falk is a sick old dude whose scholarly attributes and credentials are, shall we say, questionable. Notoriety is not the same thing as “scholarship.” Listening to a lecture on international morals from a man who possesses mental health issues but no personal integrity is a waste of time. Just listening to him ramble on about his “9/11 truther” theories is like listening to a textbook clinical display of Paranoia unleashed.

    • Michael Abramov

      Sir – I have sat in a room twice with Richard Flak rambling on about 9/11, the Boston Bombers and how it could not possibly be anything else than an Israel/US plan. It gets worse. On the last occasion I saw him, I learned something more. He cannot deal with opposing views. He does not have the intellectual capacity to reply. Age? I don’t know. Probably he never had it in the first place.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Maybe he has trouble with ZioNazi fanatics endless showering him with lies. You should have more respect for an old man far your intellectual and moral superior.

        • Jack

          Says TecumsehUnfaced the admirer and supporter of the Houthi Yemenite killers who slaughter those days thousands of Innocent Yemenite civilians Children and Women.
          And you hypocrite write about Morals….

          • scorpion

            Like the Israelis do supplying weapons for genocidal maniacs!

          • Jack

            scorpion – Another Houthi killers admirer and supporter that slaughter those days thousands of innocent Yemenite civilians children and women.
            Supported by your muslim shia

          • A.S.F.

            Considering how Iran is supplying weapons to Hezbollah these days and allowing Assad access to chemical weapons to use against his own people (and Palestinians stuck in Syrian refugee camps) , you are a fine one to talk.

        • scorpion

          I have a 9 month old nephew who is intellectually and morally superior, age has no bearing!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            When one joins a cult like Zionism, all morality is abandoned to the profit of the cult.

          • A.S.F.

            Let’s hope to God that he doesn’t inherit or adopt the failings of his Uncle. Poor kid!

        • Mike Abramov

          As you have referred to me as a ZioNazi, I have no alternative but to dump you as a correspondent. You obviously do not have the depth or intelligence to maintain a civil debate. Good-bye.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Not my fault that you think like a barbarian, snowflake.

          • Mike Abramov

            TROLL

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Thanks! But no need to confirm my evaluation of you.

      • scorpion

        Sounds like you then, only he has more than one brain cell and isn’t a liar! I am heartened to hear you learned something that must have been a first!

        • Jack

          U.N. Watch issued a statement saying “Mr. Falk’s ad hominem attacks on UN Watch are a pathetic attempt to divert attention from his own action…By attempting to justify his despicable denial of Al Qaeda’s carrying-out of the 9/11 attacks as a mere call for “investigations,” Mr. Falk resorts to the same transparent tactics used by Iran’s Ahmadinejad and other hate-mongers who seek to deny other great atrocities of history, each with their own hateful political agenda.”

        • Mike Abramov

          I have no idea what you are talking about.

    • Larry Saltzman

      That is a vicious lie promoted by Zionist front groups. Richard Falk has emphatically denied he supports 9/11 conspiracy theories.

      • Jack

        falk claimed “the pro-Israel group, UN Watch..deliberately distorted comment I made my personal capacity, on my blog,” to have him fired from his unpaid job. In a blog post Thursday, he accused Neuer of “publicly attacking me in consistently irresponsible and untruthful ways, presumably with the intention of diverting attention.

        I guess he learned something from atzmon, to say I said I support 9/11 conspiracy , but I didn’t…….
        Nice try.

        • Larry Saltzman

          I believe Falk, but at best this charge against him is a ad hominem attack that diverts attention from the censorship of his talk. That censorship is part of a determined set of actions to intimidate institutions of higher learning from presenting points of view that don’t toe the Zionist line.

          • Jack

            Larry Saltzman – You believe Hitler too, so what ?
            he learned something from atzmon, to say I said I support 9/11 conspiracy , but I didn’t…..
            That’s exactly what he said.

          • Jack

            You believe Hitler too….. so what !

      • A.S.F.

        He’s a liar, then (what a shock.) He’s on record with them.

      • A.S.F.

        Which is a lie. But, then again, the concept of “Taqiyya” allows people like you to pretend to have a Jewish name when they are actually not Jewish and lie their heads off when it suits them. It doesn’t, however, result in anyone with a working brain cell and no axe to grind against Jews (excuse me, “Zionists”) to automatically think that manure smells like a rose when what it is is manure.

        • Larry Saltzman

          You can’t possibly think that name calling and insults is effective. But by all means keep them up.

          • A.S.F.

            You deserve every bit it of the feedback you are getting. You invited it by trying to present the Palestinians as total victims, despite their persistent terror and their equally persistent rejections of all prior “two-state” solutions (one example being the Clinton round of Peace Talks when Yassar Arafat was presented with 95% of what he, himself, asked for and which he refused to respond to)…and despite the fact that the Palestinians steadfastly refuse to participate in face-to-face negotiations with the Israelis currently. You present the Israelis as genocidal colonialists who have stuck the Palestinians into a “concentration camp”, just for the pure evil thrill of it. Your “Israel is Snidely Whiplash tying poor little helpless Palestinian Nell to the railroad tracks” scenario marks you as (1) Just another Anti-Zionist propagandist trying to spread his manure and misinformation for less than honorable purposes or (2) another “Useful idiot” (Lenin’s term, not mine) without much of a clue, who tries to present himself as the world’s conscience, without even a stab at objectivity or any effort to learn the actual history of the region, let alone any reasonable representation of the facts as they exist on the ground currently. Histrionic and one-sided rhetoric is so much more appealing to some people. As I have already stated, you might want to spend a little more time and effort cleaning up the “moral weeds” in your own backyard. At least, Israel tries to make an effort in that direction. The same cannot be said for all of the parties involved.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Ashkenazi in Palestine = French in Algeria = British in Kenya

      Yes or no?

    • MissCostello

      “listening to him ramble on about his “9/11 truther” theories is like listening to a textbook clinical display of Paranoia unleashed.”:
      So why did you?

      • A.S.F.

        Unlike some other posters here, I have actually read some of what Richard Falk has had to say. Unlike Anti-Zionists of your stripe, I don’t make it my mission in life to just listen to only one side of the story. Obviously, I am not a fan of Falk’s “scholarship”. And I find his biased statements to be more than just misleading. They sometimes stray into the disturbing. Which is precisely how and why they ended up in the pages of a report that even the Israel-bashing UN could not bring itself to sanction.

        • Steve Amos

          But have you read his report?????
          If you have then PLEASE, produce evidence against it. Otherwise you just look stupid, throwing insults at everyone.

          • A.S.F.

            Please present evidence that a fantasy is a fantasy and try to convince that to those who need to put stock in the fantasy to promote their own carefully manufactured and distorted reality? That’s like a KKK member demanding that a Black person prove that the theory of “creationism” doesn’t give said KKK member the right to lynch him, while he strokes the noose he is holding aloft. You are ridiculous and anyone with firing brain cell can see through your baseless, arrogant and inflammatory posts.

          • Steve Amos

            So….. can I take it you cannot refute any part of the report…… then stop your ranting. We have more than established that you have no academic point. You are just trying to bash an academic that has proven a point which does not fit your racist agenda.

          • A.S.F.

            A ridiculous premise from an equally ridiculous person. Perhaps you can get a job working for Richard Falk as a fact-checker and publicist.

          • Jack

            Let me remind you The Report from a “no one to consider or take attention to” , that for you and your ilk is the New Bible……
            The report has already disappeared in the sewer, like all other transparent pathetic delusional persons, that tried the same in the past and faded away… Perhaps only the smell would remain

          • Steve Amos

            The report is very easy to find and download as are numerous others, anyone looking into the conflict would have to draw the same conclusions I have.
            Israel is guilty of grave crimes against humanity and there will be prosecutions.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – I don’t download useless information from someone who is no one to consider or take attention to.
            The report has already disappeared in the sewer, like all other transparent pathetic delusional persons, that tried the same in the past and faded away… Perhaps only the smell would remain.

          • A.S.F.

            You can take point “A” and try to turn it into point “D” all you like. It remains point “A.” And if point “A” proves you wrong, that’s too darned bad. Put on your big boy panties and suck it up.

          • Steve Amos

            You are actually right in your point regarding creationism. Because creationism holds similarity with zionism. Both basically say god told us this so we’re not prepared to discuss the matter any further.
            But with less than one percent of the global population being Jewish and only a proportion of that being zionist. Well, I don’t think Zionism should be able to terrorise the Middle East and incite retaliatory terrorism around the western world.
            If we, (the civilised world), put an end to the apartheid state we have been complicit in creating, we will go some way to convincing peaceful humane Islamic society that we are not their enemy. If we stop supplying the made up in 1922 state with bombs airiplanes and submarines, then stop dealing with them, it will only be a matter of time before it’s overdue demise.
            BOYCOTT DIVEST AND SANCTION THE APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL, FREE PALESTINE!

          • A.S.F.

            That’s pretty strange, considering that the world is not holding its breath in anxious anticipation of the next JEWISH/ZIONIST terror attack. They hold their breath in anxious anticipation of the next (inevitable) MUSLIM terror attack. Palestinian are dying in drives because they insist on fighting with, and committing terror against, Israel, Jews or anyone else they mistake for a Jew. It is the Palestinians who claim to hold a monopoly on the area in question and that Allah personally grants them permission to use terror as a method to promote their APARTHEID ambitions. The Palestinian’s intentions are based on their own APARTHEID ambitions. They claim the right to pursue a completely Jew-free state “from the river to the sea, all of Palestine will be free!”–which makes clear that they do not intend to extend equal (or any) rights to anyone else. Their choice in governments also makes that clear. Most Jews in Israel declare themselves to be secular Jews, not observant ones. Arabs, Muslims and people of all faiths live and thrive as citizens of Israel. Meanwhile, the Palestinians declare it nt only their right, but their sacred duty, to stage “Intifadas” (which are nothing less or other than Jew killing jaunts) and terror attacks wherein the perpetrators shout “Allah Akbar!” immediately before they strike their targets. If there is any group that has been homicidally crazed enough to commit humanistic horrors on a continual basis, look in the mirror for your culprit.

          • Steve Amos

            You have one again spectacularly missed the point, I’m afraid you lack the cognitive function to continue the discussion.
            Just try to stick to the point, read,(or have someone read to you), the report. Then provide conflicting evidence to any of the many points in Falk’s report that prove israel is an apartheid state. Should be simple, if your right.

            Here’s a good example, Article 7(a)of the basic law:Knesset(1958), prohibits any political party in israel from adopting a platform that challenges the state’s expressly Jewish character.

            If this is true, then it cannot be called a democracy as it doesn’t meet the most basic definition. It means that whatever the demographic, non Jews cannot be heard.

            Go ahead then, tell me that is not in Israeli law, it’s actually easy to check.

            Israel is not a democracy, it’s ruled by the military and always has been.

          • A.S.F.

            …And if you are a Jew who steps into the Palestinian territories or anywhere near same, you are subject to a knife in the back or worse. Just ask the families of the three Palestinian teenagers who were murdered and left to rot under some rocks in the desert. You might recall that that was the last straw that started the Gaza Offensive in 20914, Hamas rockets being lobbed into Israel’s backyard whenever they felt like it being just the lead-up. You can start criticizing the Israeli government when Palestinian governmental leaders of both the PA and Hamas stop ripping off billions in “Humanitarian Aid funds”, using the rest to build terror tunnels and paying terrorist “stipends.” And you can further clean up the Palestinian’s morally weedy backyard by convincing Hamas to stop executing Palestinian citizens for anything they deem to be “collaboration with the enemy” and stop the PA from jailing any Palestinian who dares criticize a governmental policy or decision–or God forbid, express displeasure with their habitual corruption and graft. Unlike Hamas or the PA, Israel prosecutes Israelis who commit criminal acts against Muslims and Arabs while the PA and Hamas pay off and celebrate those citizens who commit mayhem and murder against Jews. As I said, your arrogant and sweeping (and facetious) ethical outrage leaves a lot to be desired. “Moral equivalency” is hardly your forte.

          • Steve Amos

            Stop jabbing your blinkered finger at everyone else that is for another page.
            This page relates to Falk and his recently published work in relation to Israel as an apartheid state.

            Palestinians living in the ghetto of Gaza under military occupation are desperate people.
            Please don’t insult anyone claiming the occupation of Gaza ended, to all intents and purposes the occupation remains.

          • A.S.F.

            You don’t get to dictate what people can or cannot say on this forum. You are not a “moderator.” Arrogance, thy moniker is “Steve Amos.”

          • Steve Amos

            0……k, I guess we should start with Abraham?

          • A.S.F.

            I have made the precise point that you labor by any means to avoid. THAT is what offends you. Too bad.

          • Steve Amos

            Ok, what is your precise point, (Why am I encouraging this idiocy), go on then, tell me my most heinous indiscression. What exact mistake did I make you petty, small minded racist supporting tiny little speck on the ring piece of humanity.
            Hey, I could get into this insulting stuff, maybe you accusational zionist fanatics have got something here!

          • A.S.F.

            If you need a refresher course, go back and read the previous posts.

          • Steve Amos

            in other words you have no charge, ask the dude working next to you, maybe he can come up with something.

          • A.S.F.

            No, meaning you try to employ the same modus operandi that all trolls employ–Ask for information only so you can discount it in the most transparently ridiculous, twisted and demeaning way possible, only to demand that the information be supplied to you all over again. Rinse. Repeat.

          • Steve Amos

            Why don’t you just disprove any of the evidence in Falk’s work. I put it to you that you cant.

          • A.S.F.

            You would have been right at home demanding that anyone “disprove” that Hitlers account of Jewish complicity in “Mein Kampf” with evidence sufficient to satisfy the empty minds and hearts of Anti-Semites in Germany and everywhere else. A piece of manure is a piece of manure. I don’t have to prove to you WHY and how a piece of manure came to be a piece of manure. it is what is it is and smells just the same. And if you gobble it up, I guarantee it will make you sick.

          • Steve Amos

            But academics all over the world successfully challenged mein kampf, it was completely disproved and didn’t even require extensive legal lobbying to challenge.
            No one is challenging the evidence of Falk, the worst charge brought against it is bias, this has not been substantiated or quantified.
            perhaps you might share any contradictory information.

          • A.S.F.

            People have continually challenged Falk and disproven his Anti-Semitic screeds. The reason so many of his latest “Anti-Semitic tours” of English colleges have been cancelled is because REAL human rights organizations have been sending those college administrators samples of the offensive passages culled from his works straight from the horse’s mouth (pen) while stating their concerns about how having him speak could actually endanger Jewish students and incite harm in the service of the spread of Anti-Zionist propaganda. No one held a gun to the University administrators’ heads and forced them to cancel Mr. Falk. They came to their senses all on their own after reading Mr. Falk’s completely biased nonsense.

          • Steve Amos

            I have read all the posts now and have to say there’s nothing! There is a lot of insult and accusations of Jew hating from you but at each turn I have told you I don’t hate people but what they do. Peace upon even you.

  • A.S.F.

    Yeah, right…Anti-Semite, not even trying to hide anymore. I guess sociopathic misery loves company…and makes people like you feel real brave.

    • JGISD

      Why do Zionist extremists always have to throw out the “antisemite” canard every time they get called to the mat for human rights abuses? How do these people become adults without learning to distinguish between a hate-filled political ideology (Zionism) and a collection of human beings (Jews)?

      • Helen4Yemen

        95% of these human being did support the Gaza wars of 2009 and 2014.

      • Docteur Ciseaux

        Because they don’t have any other argument of course.

      • Neutralone

        “………without learning to distinguish between a hate-filled political ideology (Zionism) and a collection of human beings (Jews)?”

        How do some people become adults without learning that Zionism is NOT a hate-filled political ideology? In reality, Zionism is Jewish nationalism-nothing more. It is no more “hate-filled” than any other nationalism or political ideology.

        It is immature, biased and incorrect to tar EVERY ZIONIST with the same brush.

        • MissCostello

          I see you have ONE ‘like’; YOURS.

          • A.S.F.

            You wouldn’t recognize “honour” if it came up and kissed you on the mouth, “MissCostello”…which, of course, it wouldn’t.

          • scorpion

            Says the halitosis infected Ashkenazi.

          • Neutralone

            YOUR comments are infantile, Either you snipe at those you dislike or you mindlessly agree with the Nazibarat propaganda spreaders. You have contributed ZERO intelligent, logical or factual comment.

            You are a useful idiot, but your ability to think is much less than most of your confreres.

            Pity.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Stop stealing my Semitic identity and start saying “anti-Jew” in place of
      the silly ‘antisemitic”.

      • A.S.F.

        The only thing that has been “stolen”, alas, is your ability to reason. Please consider taking your meds, for your own sake. “Israeli Dreangement Syndrome” is not a functional substitute.

        • Jack

          Helen4Yemen – The Yemenite Houthi killers admirer and supporter.
          The Houthi killers slaughter those days thousand of Innocent civilians children and women and this Hypocrite plays around as a Humanist that cares for the Palestinians.
          That’s the way to shut her hypocrite mouth.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Campaign Against Antisemitism is a campaign against Palestinians
          Tony Greenstein The Electronic Intifada 20 March 2017
          ->https://electronicintifada.NET/content/campaign-against-antisemitism-campaign-against-palestinians/19916

          • A.S.F.

            Oh, the “Electronic Intifada”… an unassailably unbiased source…even the name gives it away. SHEESH!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you’re lobotomized minion of the ZioNazi cult that believes it has the right to kidnap children into its malevolent criminal organization.

            Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
            Middle East – Tom Suarez on January 1, 2017

            In 1946, the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Palestine, Yitzhak Herzog, conducted a massive kidnapping operation of Jewish orphans that had been adopted by European families when their parents perished years earlier. Removing ten thousand children from their homes was the number he cited to the NY Times as his goal. In the National Archives, I found a copy of his own record of the trip.

            Herzog railed against the fierce resistance he met in every country by horrified local Jewish leaders who tried to protect the children. But Herzog used his political clout to circumvent them. In France, for example, facing the steadfast refusal of the Jewish leaders to betray the children, Herzog

            met the Prime Minister of France from whom I demanded promulgation of a law which would oblige every family to declare the particulars of the children it houses,

            so that those of Jewish background could be exposed and put back in orphanages until they can be shipped to Palestine—quite a Kafkaesque twist on Passover for these children who had just been spared the Nazis.

            Herzog’s justification for the kidnappings was that for a Jew to be raised in a non-Jewish home is “much worse than physical murder”. Yet even this ghastly justification fails to explain what was actually taking place, because at the same time Herzog was ‘rescuing’ Jewish orphans from this fate “much worse than physical murder”, his Jewish Agency colleagues were sabotaging Jewish adoptive homes in England for young survivors still in the camps. The real reason for all of it, of course, was that the children were needed to serve the settler project as demographic fodder.
            ->http://mondoweiss.NET/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

  • Helen4Yemen

    RIGHT-OF-RETURN back to the motherland of Russia or Lithuania or Germany or Poland for the European Jews now squatting on Arab land. Say “Amen”.

    • A.S.F.

      RIGHT-OF-RETURN–“Palestinians” (originally referred to as “Trans-Jordanians”) going back to Jordan from whence they came and demanding their REAL “homelands” back–Say, Hallelujah! The entire human race has been playing “Muc=sical chairs” since man started walking on two feet, Helen. Both the Israelis and the Palestinians are going to have to learn to to make room for each other if there is ever to be any peace. THAT’S the bottom line.

      • Helen4Yemen

        “Israeli” is a fabricated word, is it not? Who is “Israeli”? The Lithuanian, the German, the Ethiopian, the Yemeni, the Chinese …?

        If Palestinians are “Trans-Jordanians”, then please tell me:

        a) who the natives are?
        b) what did they look like?
        c) what language did they speak?
        d) what kind of food did they cook?
        e) what religion did they practice?
        f) how did they dress?
        g) where are they now?
        h) how many of them are there now?
        i) what are they called?

        • A.S.F.

          You keep yammering on about total nonsense that you have convinced yourself gives you justification for your obsessive Anti-Semitism. It’s pretty much a waste of time to attempt to answer “questions” that are based on the ravings of a troubled mind and not much else. I’m not trying to insult you, Helen…But that’s the truth.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why don’t you stop playing this silly game? We all know that the problem is entirely the psychopathy the invader European ZioNazi cult.

            Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
            Middle East – Tom Suarez on January 1, 2017

            By the time the Balfour Declaration was finalised, thirty-plus years of Zionist settlement had made clear that the Zionists intended to ethnically cleanse the land for a settler state based on racial superiority; and it was the behind-the-scenes demands of the principal Zionist leaders, notably Chaim Weizmann and Baron Rothschild.

            First-hand accounts of Zionist settlement in Palestine had already painted a picture of violent racial displacement. I will cite one of the lesser known reports, by Dr. Paul Nathan, a prominent Jewish leader in Berlin, who went to Palestine on behalf of the German Jewish National Relief Association. He was so horrified by what he found that he published a pamphlet in January, 1914, in which he described the Zionist settlers as carrying on

            a campaign of terror modeled almost on Russian pogrom models.

            A few years later, the Balfour Declaration’s deliberately ambiguous wording was being finalized. Sceptics—and the British Cabinet—were assured that it did not mean a Zionist state. Yet simultaneously, Weizmann was pushing to create that very state immediately. He demanded that his state extend all the way to the Jordan River within three or four years of the Declaration—that is, by 1921—and then expand beyond it.

            In their behind-the-scenes meetings, Weizmann and Rothschild treated the ethnic cleansing of non-Jewish Palestinians as indispensable to their plans, and they repeatedly complained to the British that the settlers were not being treated preferentially enough over the Palestinians. And they insisted that the British must lie about the scheme until it is too late for anyone to do anything about it.

            ->http://mondoweiss.NET/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

          • Michael Abramov

            Tom Suarez is affiliated to Mondoweiss a vehemently anti-Semitic organisation based in America. Only an anti-Semite or an idiot would believe this crap.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Silly boy! Mondoweiss is Jewish with a conscience, something that has been long lobotomized out of you by the ZioNazi killer cult.

            Source: Israel’s Sacred Terrorism by Livia Rokach 1986

            APPENDIX 3 “Soon the Singing Will Turn Into A Death Moan”

            The following is excerpted from Meir Har-Tzion’s Diary, published by Levin-Epstein, Ltd., Tel Aviv, 1969. It describes an Israeli raid in Gaza during the early 1950s.

            The wide, dry riverbed glitters in the moonlight. We advance, carefully, along the mountain slope. Several houses can be seen. Bushes and shrubbery sway in the breeze, casting their shadows on the ground. In the distance we can see three lights and hear the sounds of Arab music coming out of the homes immersed in darkness. We split up into three groups of four men each. Two groups make their way to the immense refugee camp to the south of our position. The other group marches towards the lonely house in the flat area north of Wadi Gaza. We march forward, trampling over green fields, wading through water canals as the moon bathes us in its scintillating light. Soon, however, the silence will be shattered by bullets, explosions, and the screams of those who are now sleeping peacefully. We advance quickly and enter one of the houses “Mann Haatha?” (Arabic for “Who’s there?”)

            We leap towards the voices. Fearing and trembling, two Arabs are standing up against the wall of the building. They try to escape. I open fire. An ear piercing scream fills the air. One man falls to the ground, while his friend continues to run. Now we must act we have no time to lose. We make our way from house to house as the Arabs scramble about in confusion. Machine guns rattle, their noise mixed with a terrible howling. We reach the main thoroughfare of the camp. The mob of fleeing Arabs grows larger. The other group attacks from the opposite direction. The thunder of hand grenades echoes in the distance. We receive an order to retreat. The attack has come to an end.

            On the following morning, the headlines will read: “The refugee camp of Al-Burj near Gaza was attacked. The camp has been serving as a base for infiltrators into Israeli territory. ‘Twenty people were killed and another twenty were wounded.”

            .. . . A telephone line blocks our way. We cut it and continue. A narrow path leads along the slope of a hill. The column marches forward in silence. Stop! A few rocks roll down the hill. I catch sight of a man surveying the silence. I c0kk my rifle. Gibly crawls over to me, “Har, for God’s sake, a knife!!” His clenched teeth glitter in the dark and his whole body is tight, his mind alert, “For God’s sake,” . . . I put my tommy down and unsheath my machete. We crawl towards the lone figure as he begins to sing a trilled Arab tune. Soon the singing will turn into a death moan. I am shaking, every muscle in my body is tense. This is my first experience with this type of weapon. Will I be able to do it?

            We draw closer. There he stands, only a few meters in front of us. We leap. Gibly grabs him and I plunge the knife deep into his back. The blood pours over his striped cotton shirt. With not a second to lose, I react instinctively and stab him again. The body groans, struggles and then becomes quiet and still.

            From an interview with Meir Har-Tzion, Ha’aretz weekly supplement, 9 November 1965:

            “Pangs of conscience? No. Why should I have any?” The man’s blue eyes open wide in amazement. “It’s easy to kill a man with a rifle. You press the trigger and that’s that. But a knife, why, that’s something else-that’s a real fight. Even if you are successful, you come close to death. The enemy’s blade is as close as the air. It’s a fantastic feeling. You realize you’re a man.”

            ->http://www.mwcnews.NET/focus/analysis/63811-how-did-it-start.html#comment-3161632503

          • Mike Abramov

            I know Mondoweiss is Jewish. As is Shlomo Sand, Norman Finklestein, Jeff Halper, Jacqui Walker Richard Falk. Every nation has it’s 5th column. The British in WWII had Lord Haw Haw. It is irrelevant.

            What is relevant is this:

            There are Jews who are Zionist.
            There are Jews who are not Zionist.
            There are Jews who are anti-Zionist.

            Those names above are anti-Zionist however, in Nazi Germany they would have still been murdered as Jews. America is a wonderful place for Jews to live in and this is why so many of the pro-Palestine Jews are American. Some American Jews do not suffer the rabid anti-Semitism that existed in Russia, Poland and Germany.

            Does that make sense now?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Yes, the evil ZioNazi cult would be just as willing to murder millions of non-Zionist Jews by blocking their escape of Hitler, so that they could make obedient monsters of many of the rest.

            Fighting Asylum

            The entire Zionist establishment made its position unmistakable in its response to a motion by 227 British members of Parliament calling on the government to provide asylum in British territories for persecuted Jews. The meager undertaking which was prepared was as follows:

            His Majesty’s Government issued some hundreds of Mauritius and other immigration permits in favor of threatened Jewish families. [86]

            But even this token measure was opposed by the Zionist leaders. At a Parliamentary meeting on January 27, 1943, when the next steps were being pursued by over one hundred members of Parliament, a spokesperson for the Zionists announced that they opposed this motion because it did not contain preparations for the colonization of Palestine. This was a consistent stance.

            Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist leader who had arranged the Balfour Declaration and was to become the first president of Israel, made this Zionist policy very explicit:

            The hopes of Europe’s six million Jews are centered on emigration. I was asked: “Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?” I replied, “No.” … From the depths of the tragedy I want to save … young people [for Palestine]. The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world … Only the branch of the young shall survive. They have to accept it. [87]

            Yitzhak Gruenbaum, the chairperson of the committee set up by the Zionists, nominally to investigate the condition of European Jews, said:

            When they come to us with two plans – the rescue of the masses of Jews in Europe or the redemption of the land – I vote, without a second thought, for the redemption of the land. The more said about the slaughter of our people, the greater the minimization of our efforts to strengthen and promote the Hebraisation of the land. If there would be a possibility today of buying packages of food with the money of the Karen Hayesod [United Jewish Appeal] to send it through Lisbon, would we do such a thing? No. And once again no! [88]].

            ->https://www.marxists.ORG/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch06.htm

          • Michael Abramov

            Either you are an idiot or you are brainwashed. Your sources of information are what you WANT to believe. The Likes of Lenni Brenner and other left-wing historians will write ‘their’ interpretation of the history of the Jews, but unless you are a passionate Jew with the spiritual connection to Israel you cannot possibly understand that being a Zionist is NOT about kicking the Arabs out whatever you want to believe.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Passionate Jew? How dare you defile ‘Jew’ as being full of psychopathic desires for murdering and immiserating millions of other people! No, you are part of a vile cult working off a fake longing for a ‘homeland’ you never had, a cult so utterly evil that it continues parading out horrors against the people it savagely invaded and stole the land from. You are every bit as bad as the Nazis that hemmed in the Warsaw ghetto.

            Gaza: Israel’s war drums are getting louder
            Israel is entertaining another round of fighting on the besieged strip.
            ->http://www.aljazeera.COM/indepth/features/2017/03/gaza-israel-war-drums-louder-170328061135195.html

          • Michael Abramov

            Sir – it sounds like to me that you are a supporter of Hamas, who in turn wish to see the destruction of Israel and the death of every ‘Yahud’. You do not care that if Hamas pushes Israel in to another war that Arabs in Gaza will die and you are calling me a Nazi.

            You need help. Go and see a psychiatrist.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            That is the yammer of lobotomized minion of the evil European ZioNazi cult that savagely invaded Palestine. Poor thing has lost so many neurons, it can’t understand that foul evil in which it is participant demands condemnation. See a deprogrammer immediately.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1.Those who wanted the death of every “Yahud” was the Christian West and not Muslims? Yes or no?

            2. The Palestinians do not want the “Yahud” killed but gone home exactly as the Algerians wanted the French gone? Yes or no?

            3. The Ashkenazi can safely and easily go home back to America, Canada, Germany, Lithuania, Russia, … but chooses to stay because of billions of US$ raining on his head which make his life super sweet. Yes or no?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why do you have two accounts? Is it the vain hope that you sound only half as crazy?

          • Michael Abramov

            What has this got to do with my question?

          • scorpion

            Probably one for each brain cell.

          • scorpion

            Apart from the fact that Hamas recognised the “Israeli Entity” back in 2006.

            As the Israeli Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center noted, the truce “brought relative quiet to the western Negev population”, with 329 rocket and mortar attacks, “most of them during the month and a half after November 4”, when Israel had violated and effectively ended the truce. This stands in remarkable contrast to the 2,278 rocket and mortar attacks in the six months prior to the truce. Until November 4, the center also observed, “Hamas was careful to maintain the ceasefire.”
            Reported by Israeli think-tank Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center) in early July 2014 that precipitated Israel’s launch of “Operation Protective Edge,” the NLG report shows that Israel’s air and ground attacks on occupied Palestinian territories preceded any rocket fire from Hamas.
            “The Hamas rocket fire was neither actually occurring nor imminent when Israeli forces launched a non-judicial execution in Gaza, killing a Hamas member and severely wounding three civilians on 11 June,” the report states. ”Nor when Israeli forces launched their massive assault on the West Bank on 13 June 2014. The Israeli attacks were not necessary to stop rockets because rockets were not being fired at the time by Hamas and non-Hamas groups. Nor was rocket fire imminently threatened at the time.”
            The Jerusalem Fund, a non-profit in Washington, D.C., has catalogued cease-fire violations on either side. The principal finding is as follows:
            “Palestinian launches have been rare and sporadic and occurred almost always after successive instances of Israeli cease-fire violations.”

            Yousef Munayyer, Executive Director of The Jerusalem Fund, explains how it typically works: Israel can “fire into Gaza without accountability, provoke a reaction and then claim self-defense.”

            Israel deliberately violates ceasefire agreements and causes the conflict, but then as worshippers of Moloch and his star or Rempah you need to blood sacrifice.

            My Grandmother warned me about mamzers.

          • Michael Abramov

            Sir – it’s spelling is ‘mumsers’.

            You are naturally biased.

            Hamas (translation: The Resistance Party) recognises Israel only as a target. Cha. 7 of the Hamas Charter focuses on the complete annihilation of Jews. However, it is the people of Gaza I have sympathy for. Many are suffering from poor standards of living because their government is using funding to build 7 star hotels in Gaza city, shopping malls with very expensive doods and cement for people’s homes are used for building tunnels in to Egypt and Israel.

            It is unheard of in warfare to warn that a war will start. In both 2008 and 2014 Israel gave Hamas 3 weeks warning to stop shelling southern Israel. They didn’t. The rest is history…..tragically.

            In the meanwhile the Hamas leaders were enjoying the hospitality of Doha.

          • scorpion

            Oh how silly of me, you are the font of all knowledge, you even know more than official Israeli sources. All the rockets and shelling was monitored, so be a good little Zio twerp and go read it again properly!!

            Times of Israel: “Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn’t fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012.”

            The Nation: “During ten days of Operation Brother’s Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011.”

            Just proves yet again what a liar yo are!!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why do you need two different Disqus accounts and using them simultaneously? That makes you look like you want to be deceptive. Tell me the reason of using two accounts?

          • Helen4Yemen

            1) Palestine is NOT the ancestral land of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob but
            Ur in Chaldea (present day Iraq) is. Yes or no?

            2) The Israelite were the descendants of nephew-niece-cousin marrying Chaldeans whose DNA can never match to people of Palestine but only to Ur. Yes or no?

            3) Tell me what is the reason that the Ashkenazi who have no connection to Chaldean Abraham or Isaac or Jacob or to any people of of the region doing on that land? They are totally and completely Europeans at confirmed DNA of 99.9% EUROPOEAN and 0% Middle Eastern. Yes or no?

          • scorpion

            You are so rude, you might upset someone, bit of a hypocrite aren’t you!!

            How can you have a spiritual connection to somewhere you ncestors have nevr been to? Lusting after someone else’s things is a sin!!

          • scorpion

            “”Being a Zionist is NOT about kicking the Arabs out whatever you want to believe.””

            Well idiot, we only believe things because we read statements from Zionists, including

            “We shall endeavour to expel the poor population [of Palestine] across the border unnoticed, procuring employment for it in the transit countries, but denying it any employment in our country”.
            Theodor Herzl, founder of political Zionism, 1860 – 1904, from a Personal Diary entry 12 June 1895.

            The Palestinians should be deported. Two years ago, only 7% or 8% of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution. Two months ago [January 2010] it was 33%. Now, according to a Gallup Poll, the figure is 44%.”
            Martin Levi van Crevel, (b 1946) Israeli Military Historian and Theorist

            Yoram Ben Porath when he was quoted in the major Israeli newspaper, “”There is no such thing as Zionism, as colonization by the Jewish State, without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.”
            Yediot Aaronoth” on July 14th 1972 :

            Yet more proof you are a liar and a programmed HASBARA ROBOT!!

          • Michael Abramov

            What is said and what is done are two completely different. What Herzl said was a 100 years ago.

            The Arabs never wanted Jews as a self-autonomous people in the ME in the first place. I am dubious about your quotes above because I have no faith in the ‘facts’ that pro-Palestinians have slung at me over the past 10 years. Often, they are exaggerated or just not true.

            The Palestinian Arabs are the victims not of the Israeli state, but by being abandoned by their Arab brethren. Had you won those wars, many Jews would have died and you would have called this the great Jihad. However, there 1.5 million Arabs living in Israel. Why are they not living in Gaza or the West Bank?

          • scorpion

            Everything is cited why don’t you go and check them? You won’t of course as you have knowledge beyond every one else, including the people that made the statements, such arrogance.

          • Michael Abramov

            I am sure that you are right. I am also sure that the Hamas Charter (Cha. 7) talks about ‘not finding a Jew alive under a stone’ in the great Jihad. what does matter is dialogue.

            The PA does want dialogue only with pre-conditions like East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. Hamas only want war and care nothing for the people of Gaza. Why do you insist that this situation is the fault of Israel and the Arabs have done nothing wrong?

          • scorpion

            “Being a Zionist is NOT about kicking the Arabs out whatever you want to believe.”

            “We shall endeavour to expel the poor population [of Palestine] across the border unnoticed, procuring employment for it in the transit countries, but denying it any employment in our country”.
            Theodor Herzl, founder of political Zionism, 1860 – 1904, from a Personal Diary entry 12 June 1895.

            The Palestinians should be deported. Two years ago, only 7% or 8% of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution. Two months ago [January 2010] it was 33%. Now, according to a Gallup Poll, the figure is 44%.”
            Martin Levi van Crevel, (b 1946) Israeli Military Historian and Theorist

            Yoram Ben Porath when he was quoted in the major Israeli newspaper, “”There is no such thing as Zionism, as colonization by the Jewish State, without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.”
            Yediot Aaronoth” on July 14th 1972 :

            We have evidence to base our beliefs on!

          • scorpion

            On Nov. 25, 1940, a boat carrying Jewish refugees from Nazi Europe, the “Patra,” exploded and sank off the coast of Palestine killing 252 people [Plus the English crewman]

            The Zionist “Haganah” claimed the passengers committed suicide to protest British refusal to let them land. Years later, it admitted that rather than let the passengers go to Mauritius it blew up the vessel.

            “Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many,” Moshe Sharett, a former Israeli Prime Minister said at memorial service in 1958.

          • A.S.F.

            Typical of “Anti-Zionist” propagandists to bring up events that are nowhere near current (many of them over a half a century old) to avoid discussing the finer points of what is going on today. ot shows how little ammunition you have to work with in your arguments.

          • scorpion

            Like you keep bringing up Biblical myths and Holocaust you mean?

          • A.S.F.

            No, more like the Palestinians (and “supporters” like you) continuing to justify their threats and terror and rockets and claims to land that they never held deeds to and never self- ruled in the first place on the basis something that happened to the “Trans-Jordanians” in 1948–who WERE offered their own state, just like Israel was, but refused it. Since most of the people complaining about their “Palestinian refugee status” are not even remotely related to the Trans-Jordanians of 1948, have never actually lived in the area in question nor do most of them intend to “return” to actually live in their supposedly stolen “homelands”, I think your self-righteous arguments are a farce.

          • Michael Abramov

            Sir – I am amazed that you thought I would not check your sources. Ralph Schoenmann is a Jewish anti-Zionist and a Marxist. There are hundreds of them like Falk and Lenni Brenner. The Marxists have a long reputation for ‘spin’. Just look st the history of Communist China and the Soviet Union.

            How can you expect me to believe what he has written knowing he will put a ‘spin’ on his studies.

            This whole debate is about the lack of constructive dialogue between pro-Zionists and anti-Zionists. You, my friend, just want to blame the Zionists for everything. There are always two sides to an argument.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Are you claim that the ZioNazi Cult didn’t invade Palestine for genocidal country stealing? That same cult didn’t block escape of Jews from Europe to other countries? Is that what you are saying with the standard ZioNazi gush of slander that always comes after exposure of their foul deeds?

          • Michael Abramov

            Yes.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Hehehe!

          • A.S.F.

            Mondoweiss, like Haaretz, unfortunately attracts the kind of JINO’s who like to nail other Jews to a cross in order to prove their extremely doubtful moral superiority to other Jews and their acceptability to “Anti-Zionists” (many of whom are Anti-Semites) who would just as soon stick a knife in their backs once their usefulness has expired. But they are too in love with their own Pseudo-Progressive images in the mirror to see it.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nobody crucifies more Jews than the ZioNazi cult.

            Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
            Middle East – Tom Suarez on January 1, 2017

            The historical record makes plain what should already have been obvious from the present reality—that Israel’s and Zionism’s pretenses regarding Jews and Judaism, and in particular its pretense of being a response to anti-Semitism and Jewish persecution, is a fraud. Indeed quite the opposite, it thrives by exacerbating and capitalizing on these, and has turned them into a cynical, deadly business.

            Exposing this, in my opinion, is Israel’s—and the conflict’s—Achilles Heel. And this should be a simple case of the Emperor’s New Clothes—except that every time the child points out that the Emperor is naked, he or she is labelled an anti-Semite and silenced.

            [snip]

            We hear a lot about anti-Semitism these days, and there is of course anti-Semitism in the world, as there are all varieties of bigotry. But let’s just blurt out the obvious: Virtually all of the alleged anti-Semitism we hear about from the Zionists is a lie, smears calculated to silence anyone who seeks to end the horror. ->http://mondoweiss.NET/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

          • scorpion

            Ah the good old auntie semitic bilge!! YAWN!! Israelis are the most anti-semtic people on earth.

            Herzl stated in his diary:
            “It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as ‘stooges of the Jews.’ Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.” (The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, edited by Raphael Patai, translated by Harry Zohn, page 83-84)

          • Steve Amos

            Here we go with the antisemite card again, coz everyone that hates murder oppression and apartheid is a Jew hater.
            Well newsflash, I love humanity, I am constantly amazed by what people can do for a complete stranger. One of my favourite tales from my ,(now abandoned), catholic upbringing is ‘the Good Samaritan’.
            Any real Jew will tell you that God promised the land and will deliver, because he’s like …. omnipotent an all that.
            He expressly told David to have patience, after David raised an army to take the land God told him he was not fit to build his temple.
            But you guys don’t trust your own god, bit weird that, you have to steal and butcher your way across the land.
            Just a guess here but I’m thinking god, the creator of all this wonder, a being of pure love, well he’s not going to like that.
            I’ll tell you again, just as Amos once told the leaders of Israel thousands of years ago, if there is a god, you should expect his wrath.

          • Mike Abramov

            Steve – thank you for your sermon. Zionism is secular, not religious. Having said that, The Arabs in Israel, despite a national cirriculum. teach the Qur’an and Arabic. in their schools. It is tolerated. The Charedim teach Talmud all day. It is tolerated.

            Zionism is the romantic name for Jerusalem because 3,000 years ago there was no Palestine. Does that make sense?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, Zionism is an evil, lobotomizing cult that works to make obedient monsters of the Jews it fools into its poisonous grasp, and well as make tons of money for the demonic overlords, such as the Rothschilds. That’s why politicians like Olmert who steal too much get nailed.

          • Steve Amos

            Uhhh NO, actually it was called Zion. Zionism is more of a cult.

          • Neutralone

            There are numerous mentions of Jerusalem in both the Old and New Testaments. Here is one of MANY examples:
            Psalm 125:2 ESV
            As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the Lord surrounds his people, from this time forth and forevermore.

          • Steve Amos

            I realise you’re not big on reading so I’ll repeat that Abramov suggested it was 3000 years ago. That pre dates the bible, you are getting pretty tied up here aren’t you?

          • Neutralone

            3000 years ago DOES NOT pre-date the Bible. King David ruled over 3000 years ago. Much of the Bible occurred before the time of King David.

          • Steve Amos

            as far as I’m concerned it can be twenty billion years ago, an Jerusalem was whatever you say it was. Still today, in real land israel is an apartheid state, and the more people like you spew out distraction and lobby against debate, the more guilty you look.

          • A.S.F.

            In other words, Neutralone, you got him. And he’s too much of a baby to admit it, so he has to double down on his baby-squawk.

          • Steve Amos

            It was your comment, the whole 3000 years ago was yours, you guys are actually shooting each other from across the desk you’re sitting at, that’s hilariose.
            I hope your handler is watching this.

          • Neutralone

            As I noted in my previous reply , it is YOU who refuses to debate. You slough off every single rebuttal. You have NO knowledge other than your obsession that Israel MUST BE a terrible Apartheid state .Your BIAS means to automatically accept EVERY bad claim and reject EVERY good claim.

          • Steve Amos

            Its really very simple, any state that elevates one faith or culture over another is completely wrong, backward, unfair, unjust, unsustainable and frankly stupid in this day and age.
            There is absolutely no argument that a government that will not allow a party in government that challenges the expressly jewish nature of its state elevates one faith over all others, that’s cut and dry mate.
            I’m not even taking into account the importation of any jews from anywhere along side the no right of return for real documented Palestinians, the refusalrate for palesinian building permits, the blockade, the stealing of Palestinian land, the racial domination, checkpoints, incursions into Al Aqsa, imprisonment without charge, imprisonment of children, fracturing of the Palestinian population so they cannot have a unified political voice………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..But to you I’m being short sighted, right?????
            I fear for your soul my friend, I don’t believe that you can possibly have a faith but you should question the world you are perpetuating for your children.

          • Neutralone

            Watch the video and learn. Stop blocking out reality.
            youtube. com/watch?v=VJCrWmtpNrM&feature=youtu. be

          • Mike Abramov

            Yes – it is Zion. Zionism is not a cult it is a spiritual passion that some Jews are born with. Richard Falk was not born with any kind of spirituality. Anyway, I presume you are an American. If so, you are living on land stolen from the native Americans.

          • scorpion

            Schlomo Sand suggests that the Palestinians are the people we call “the Jews” in the Bible:
            Apart from enslaved prisoners, the population of Judea continued to live on their lands, even after the destruction of the second temple [in 70 AD]. Some converted to Christianity in the 4th century, while the majority embraced Islam during the 7th century Arab conquest.
            Most Zionist thinkers were aware of this: Yitzhak Ben Zvi, later president of Israel, and David Ben Gurion, its first prime minister, accepted it as late as 1929, the year of the great Palestinian revolt. Both stated on several occasions that the peasants of Palestine were the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Judea.

          • Steve Amos

            One thing is for sure, the descendants from 3000 years ago are far more likely to be related to the INDIGINOSE PALESTINIANS, than to the European Jews imported by israel.

          • scorpion

            Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew
            Jewish Almanac (1980)

          • A.S.F.

            Israel is here to stay. Face reality. Suck it up. You’ve had since 1948 to get used to it. It’s time for you and your Palestinian buds to put on your big-boy pants, get off the dole, and concentrate on raising yourselves up from your resentments, bigotry and irresponsibility and learn to govern yourselves with some semblance of sanity and coherence. Forget the idiotic revisionist history and learn to live with the fact that Jews have a place in this world whether you like it or not. And they don’t need your say-so or permission to keep it.

          • Steve Amos

            Israel is squatting on Palestine and can only look forward to an eviction.

          • A.S.F.

            Nice bumper sticker. I am sure you have it plastered all over your car, if you own one. Your balanced and objective take on the matter under discussion is duly noted.

          • scorpion

            There was no Israel before 1948!

          • scorpion

            There was no Israel before 1948, if there was show me the map!

            Herodotus and Ptolemy have maps showing Palestine!

          • A.S.F.

            There was no group of people called “Palestinians” before the mid-1960’s, when Yassar Arafat started using the term, for obvious political reasons.

          • Helen4Yemen

            If you are a Christian, then you aught to know that the Zionists are actually following Judaism, are they not?
            ___
            At the Border of Canaan

            Numbers 33:50 The Lord spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by the Jordan, across from Jericho. He said: 51 “Speak to the Israelites and tell them, ‘When you have crossed the Jordan into the land of Canaan, 52 you must drive out all the inhabitants of the land before you. Destroy all their carved images, all their molten images, and demolish their high places. 53 You must dispossess the inhabitants of the land and live in it, for I have given you the land to possess it. 54 You must divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families. To a larger group you must give a larger inheritance, and to a smaller group you must give a smaller inheritance. Everyone’s inheritance must be in the place where his lot falls. You must inherit according to your ancestral tribes. 55 But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land before you, then those whom you allow to remain will be irritants in your eyes and thorns in your side, and will cause you trouble in the land where you will be living. 56 And what I intended to do to them I will do to you.”

          • Steve Amos

            No they most certainly are not, read the posts on this page, zionists share a sentiment with king David, who was forbidden by god to build his temple for the blood on his hands.
            If god promised the land, why do people that pertain to Judaism not trust their omnipotent creator of everything.
            David was told to be patient by god, but he chose to raise an army to wipe out the gentiles. Does this sound familiar?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Because his god told him to:

            1 Samuel 15:3 “Go and attack the Amalekites! Destroy them and all their possessions. Don’t have any pity. Kill their men, women, children, and even their babies. Slaughter their cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.”

          • Steve Amos

            Yeah it’s pretty strong stuff that, I saw the more startling holes in my faith at an early age and just switched off.

          • A.S.F.

            Apparently, your entire conscience was switched off….baby with the bath water.

          • Steve Amos

            Actually,I realised that there was a massive gulf between religion and faith, and that religion was used to weaponise people, like the IDF.
            People of faith keep it in their heart, they never harm others, they help if they can and stand up to injustice.
            Religious people say god told us to pick up this gun, and if that makes sense to you then to derride me is a welcome complement.

          • A.S.F.

            Go preach the sermon you gave us above to the Palestinians. You might have a rough time convincing them, given that they are literally being paid by their governments to commit terror…out of “humanitiarian aid” funds, yet!

          • Steve Amos

            Are you sure your not just confusing Israeli’s with Palestinians. I say this because Israel is stealing Palestinian money and taking massive financial handouts from the USA while holding Palestinians in ghetto conditions under a blockade and continually stealing their land. Its actually all in the report from Falk et al and is the very subject you refuse to tackle.

          • A.S.F.

            Israel collects the taxes that the Palestinians levy on their own people (and which the Palestinian governments keep raising) and then dispenses said taxes to the Palestinian governments who waste the money on greed, corruption, graft, the building of terror tunnels, the building of residential palaces for government officials, the enormous propaganda machine that cranks out incendiary bull 24/7 and the paying of stipends for terrorists. Once, Israel held back some of that tax money to pay down the astounding debt caused by the Palestinian governments’ refusals to pay any of their overdue bills for the water and electricity they gobble up–and they were crucified by the Left-wing media for it. So, Israel started rationing some of those utilities, given how much of them are wasted in pipes that keep breaking and that the Palestinian governments refuse to fix, tons of sewage and human waste that the Palestinians spill into the water supply that they refuse to do anything about ad the electricity they likewise consume without paying for it. The outrage forced Israel to keep supplying said utilities, e=despite the hardships that creates for Israelis who are NOT excuse for not paying THEIR bills. But when Hamas cuts off electricity to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and continually raises taxes, nobody has anything to say about that–especially the Palestinians, who know that they are vulnerable to being arrested, tortured or worse if they complain too loudly. Like i said, clean up your own backyard. You have a LOT of work to do.

          • Steve Amos

            1997: Following a bombing in Jerusalem, Israel suspended the transfer for two months.[9]
            2000: Following the start of the Second Intifada, Israel withheld Palestinian revenue for two years.[8][9]
            2006: Following the 2006 Palestinian legislative election, Israel suspended the tax transfers for more than a year.[8][9]
            2008: In June 2008, Israel retained a large part of the taxes in an apparent retaliation for PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad’s lobbying at the European Union not to upgrade the Israel–European Union relations.[14][15]
            2011: After a Fatah–Hamas reconciliation attempt in May,[16][17][18] and during October and November 2011 in response to Palestine’s bid for full membership in the United Nations and admission to UNESCO, Israel refused to transfer collected taxes.[13][19]
            2012: In response to Palestine securing an upgraded status in the UN pursuant to United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19, Israel withheld the December 2012 tax transfer, to the amount of $100 million.[12] Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said that “The Palestinians can forget about getting even one cent in the coming four months”.[11] The withheld money will be used to pay Palestinian debts to the Israel Electric Corporation, and Lieberman also said that the Palestinians had a major debt with the Israeli water authority (Mekorot) that would have to be paid.[11] Both the Israel Electric Corporation and Mekorot are primarily owned by the government of Israel. The Foreign Affairs Council of the Council of the European Union released a statement calling on Israel to “avoid any step undermining the financial situation of the Palestinian Authority” and stating that “Contractual obligations, notably under the [Protocol on Economic Relations], regarding full, timely, predictable and transparent transfer of tax and custom revenues have to be respected.”[11][20] On 9 December 2012, Mahmud Abbas warned he may refer Israel to the International Criminal Court (ICC) if it continues to withhold tax revenues at a meeting of the Arab League at which other members agreed to make up the shortfall in revenues.[21]
            2014: Following the April 2014 Gaza Agreement, Israel again withheld taxes as a punitive measure, in order to unilaterally settle debts.[22][23]
            2015: In December 2014, Palestine submitted a declaration accepting the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court over crimes committed “in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and acceded to the Rome Statute to become a states party to the Statute. Israel suspended the transfer of Palestinian tax revenues to the PA as punishment for 4 months until April 2015.[8][9][24]

          • A.S.F.

            Get ready for it: (1) 1997–Palestinian terror has consequences. Imagine that. (2) 2000–Palestinian terror has consequences. Get the picture? (3) 2006–Electing a terrorist group sworn to annihilate Israel and kill Jews indiscriminately has consequences, especially after the Palestinians are handed the entire Gaza Strip for their resettlement and then turn around and increase their rocket fire into, and terror attacks against, Israel. (4) 2008-Incitement of terror and violence and destructive acts towards Israel continue and they continue to have consequences. Some people are slow learners. (5) 2011–Renewed acts meant to forward an agenda to de-legitmize and destroy Israel continue to wreak consequences even as demands on Israel for infrastructure and security supports (from the PA) increase. (6) 2012–Not paying any of the outstanding Palestinian utility bills for water and electricity (not a one of them), despite the fact that those taxes are supposed to be paying for said utilities, has consequences.Most people realize that they have to pay for water and electricity but the Palestinians, have been on the global dole since 1948, are not used to thinking that way. Everything is Israel’s responsibility and everything is Israel’s fault. That’s their motto. (7) 2014& 2015–Palestinians continue to refuse to pay their bills, despite an increased demand for services and the violence they commit against the people they expect to keep bank-rolling them. Instead, their governments whine to the UN about taxes being withheld when said taxes are actually being used to pay terrorist stipends, build terror tunnels, new multi-million dollar compound for Abbas in Ramallah and lavish homes for his henchmen, with much of the rest being stuffed into the pockets and Swiss Bank Accounts of senior members of both factions of Palestinian leadership. And they continue to purchase rockets which, according to Anti-Zionists who to like to ignore their existence for argument’s sake, seem to come out of thin air. Here’s the thing, Steve…Only Sociopaths expect and demand that their criminal and negligent actions shouldn’t have consequences. Sociopaths also never learn from their experiences and mistakes, so they have difficulty making the critical connection between “cause and effect.” This explains a lot about the “Palestinian” plight, the actions of their governments and your own posts.

          • Steve Amos

            as you can clearly see israel regularly withholds tax revenues from Palestinians as a means of collective punishment, as condemned by absolutely everyone.

          • A.S.F.

            The Palestinian governments use said taxes to stuff the pockets and Swiss Bank Accounts of their senior government and military officials, build terror tunnels, pay terrorists to commit terror, buy rockets and other assorted weaponry and build special “government projects”, like the compounds that Hamas officials live in, the underground bunkers they use but don’t allow Palestinian civilians to use in times of conflict and Abbas’s new multi-million dollar compound in Ramallah. And we’ve already established that they refuse to pay any of their vastly overdue utility bills. Funny how you never have the inclination to condemn that. Could it be because you can’t blame any of that on Israel and Jews? DDUUUUHHHHHH! Yeah, you are a real human rights giant, YOU are.

          • scorpion

            With you the threw the real person away and kept the afterbirth. I am amazed that you can spell conscience without ever having had one!

          • A.S.F.

            It’s a REAL shame when people with no conscience think they can snidely get away with insults about other people not being able to spell the word, “conscience.” It shows how out of touch with reality you are.

          • Neutralone

            My readings of the Bible and reading about King David do not indicate either of your claims. ie:

            – forbidden by god to build his temple for the blood on his hands, or

            – David was told to be patient by god

            Where exactly did you get your information?

          • Steve Amos

            First Chronicles 22:8 sheds some light on God’s decision not to allow David to build the temple: “You have shed much blood and have fought many wars. You are not to build a house for my Name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in my sight.” David’s background of shedding blood in times of war was God’s reason for choosing David’s son instead (see also 1 Chronicles 28:3). God wanted a man of peace to construct the temple, not a man of war. His house was to be “a house of prayer for all nations” (Isaiah 56:7

          • Neutralone

            Thank you

          • A.S.F.

            …Says the man who says he gave up his Catholic faith…but any port in a storm, I guess, when it comes to rhetoric you feel may be useful to your “Anti-Zionist” arguments.

          • Steve Amos

            BOOM

          • A.S.F.

            KA-POW

          • Helen4Yemen

            WHY DO YOU UPVOTE ALL YOUR OWN COMMENTS? I MEAN ALL!

            https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/neutralone_upvoting_his_own_comments/

            Replace * with dot

          • A.S.F.

            Why do you try to justify your intense bigotry against Jews with idiotic “DNA statistics”– I mean ALL THE TIME, in every forum you visit?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Because that was the reason why European took possession of Palestine.

          • A.S.F.

            Which is like saying, “I say this carrot is a bicycle because it looks like a european carrot to me.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is Palestine Ashkenazi Jewry’s ancestral land? Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            What are you trying to say? The Ashkenazi is in fact totally and completely of European origin at a stunning rate of 99.9% confirmed by his DNA.

          • Steve Amos

            I did mention that I abandoned my faith, I have only faith in humanity and have to say that I am critical of any theocratic state including Islamic. I think that true faith resides within people, it doesn’t need legal parameters, it shouldn’t have any relation to politics simply because everyone doesn’t share one faith. for the same reason faith should have no place in law.
            I absolutely support the struggle of the Palestinians at the same time as the plight of the Yemenis and many other oppressed people, my attention is taken by what people are doing, not the religion, (not faith), that is used as a tool to manipulate good people to undertake inhumane actions.

          • A.S.F.

            The Yemenis are, likewise, doing a pretty good job at killing off each other. Your own interpretation of “faith” needs eye glasses.

          • Steve Amos

            actually its the Saudis that are killing Yemenis using Israeli weapons, once again can I thank you for highlighting another good example of Israeli violence and support for other oppressive regimes. Keep typing, hey maybe you could mention the subject of this page, remember, its about Richard Falk’s reports proving that Israel is an apartheid state and the Zionist lobbying group trying to stifle any debate on the subject?

          • A.S.F.

            Apparently, you have not bothered to glance at the videos already supplied to you concerning Houthi violence in Yemen. To blame Israel for the genocides being waged by Muslims against other Muslims, in addition to the ethnic cleansing dances they have continually inflicted on any other faith that dares breathe the same air is them, is cynical and perverse in the extreme.

          • Steve Amos

            I’m not arguing with you about what other baddies there are in the world, I’m telling you that I and very many others believe the unsurmountable evidence that points to Israel being an apartheid state, some provided by Falk et al, and defending the right to debate the issue in the open with academics. I believe once it has been exposed to academic debate the world can begin to sanction and divest from Israel and that the fact that Zionists go to such great lengths to silence debate proves my point.

          • A.S.F.

            You are trying to paint Israel as the “Snidely Whiplash” of the Middle East, if not the entire globe, and you are failing.

          • Steve Amos

            you are welcome to your opinion, my consideration of the situation is very different, I do however enjoy some of your terminology.

          • scorpion

            So are fake jews killing the few real jews!

          • scorpion

            With Israeli involvement as usual!

            On May 31, Haaretz headlined “Iranian report: Israeli arms found in Saudi embassy in Yemen,” saying:

            Houthi fighters found “a large cache of Israeli-made weapons and ammunition” in Riyadh’s abandoned Sanaa embassy.

            Documents were found indicating Washington plans a base on Yemen’s Perim Island island off its southwest coast in the Red Sea near the entrance to the Bab al-Mandreb strait.

            Riyadh reportedly asked Israel to supply “state-of-the-art weapons” to wage war on Houthis.

            On May 25, Veterans Today reported two Israeli F-16s downed over Yemen.

            Saying “Yemeni air defense forces shot down a Saudi marked fighter jet in the northwestern province of Sanaa in Yemen as it was conducting airstrikes.”

            “This is the second F-16 shot down this week – clearly the strength of the Yemeni air defences has been grossly underestimated.”

            “The Saudi F-16 fighter jet was shot down and subsequently crashed in the Bayt Khayran area of the district of Bani Harith in the northern part of Sanaa.”

            Wreckage of both planes “were found to be of types never supplied to an Arab nation, not Saudi Arabia” or others. “The only ‘buyer’ in the region for that type of plane is Israel.”

          • A.S.F.

            Haaretz trying to paint Houthi sources as being credibile or reliable is analogous to the KKK using its own “underground sources” to provide solid evidence of how Black militants are planning an imminent “race war” against innocent and unsuspecting White folk in America. But, given the general tone and tenor of your posts, I suspect you would believe that too.

          • scorpion

            With the weaponry available to the Police, who are trained by the Inbred Diaper Farce, I rather doubt that, but it shows the link between zios and right wing though, as both are racists!!

          • A.S.F.

            Funny how your sweeping generalizations and pronouncements are always so self-servingly wrong.

          • Steve Amos

            Well you have your opinion and I have mine, those opinions are borne from our life experience and it’s safe to say we’ve covered everything except the actual substance of Falk’s publications, you remember, it’s what this page is actually about.
            I feel that you are evasive and that you are being paid to misdirect and confuse the issue. And you believe I’m some kinda jihaddybaddy that just hates Jews, nuff said.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am a Semite and you need to stop the use of my identity. Since no Ashkenazi is a Semite, simply say: anti-Jew.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But when you check out what he says, it holds, something that never happens with the cloaca spew that issues perpetually from you.

          • Michael Abramov

            I have to conclude that you are not worth conversing with. Good-bye

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Of course, you conclude that. I’m totally unimpressed with your flaming bigotry. You’re worse than David Duke.

          • Mike Abramov

            I have no idea who David Duke is. I have dealt with your type before. Unable to conduct a civil dialogue without insults and derogatory remarks. Now, get lost.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            What an insolent bigot you are! You’ve added nothing to the conversation but a spew of mendacity of your hate cult.

          • scorpion

            Couldn’t handle the pressure? Or running to HASBARA CENTRAL for new stuff to spew?

          • Mike Abramov

            You are trying to intimidate me and it won’t work. Either behave and stop acting like a troll or, go else where. Your choice.

          • scorpion

            Who do you think you are dictating what I can do. Oh sorry I forgot you are special! Go fly a kite!

          • Mike Abramov

            You are the one that started the insults. Not me. If you cannot take it, you know what you can do.

          • scorpion

            You are trying to intimidate me, you bully Boo hoo. Go stick it in your ear idiot!

          • Mike Abramov

            Grow up!

          • scorpion

            Shut up maggot!

          • scorpion

            Oh so the UK records office in Kew is an ant-Semitic organisation now. Can’t handle facts can you. Write to Kew and whine to them, we’ll sit back and laugh!

          • Mike Abramov

            As usual, I have no idea what Kew’s Public Records Office has to do with this conversation. Now, lay off the booze for a minute and collect your thoughts.

          • scorpion

            “”Tom Suarez is affiliated to Mondoweiss a vehemently anti-Semitic organisation based in America. Only an anti-Semite or an idiot would believe this crap.”2

            If proof were ever needed that you don’t read or comprehend anything this is it it!! You make braod sweeping statements about matters you know nothing about. I am merely responding to yet another of your idiotic, moronic posts.

            As for staying off the booze, I don’t drink and aat least I can have thoughts, unlike you a robot that is programmed to spout lies and crap!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Look at me! I can say that I am Semite without any hesitation! Can you?

          • peepsqueek

            Good for you Helen, and whose land are you living on now, and how was that land acquired?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Weird! You don’t think that people should want merciless thugs gone, just because they say their Jewish?

          • peepsqueek

            If that were the case they should be targeting all the dictators and totalitarian governments, and dozens of known terrorist organizations in the Middle East.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you are stupidly claiming that people don’t want merciless thugs like the ZioNazi cult gone?

          • peepsqueek

            If you are referring to Jews, there are only a few thousand Jews in all of the so-called Arab lands put together. Non-Arabs and Non-Muslims are pouring out of the Middle East.

            Sure they want Zionists gone, because the banner of Islam flies over 99.9% of the Middle East land mass, and people like yourself are pissssed that it is not 100%

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, I am referring to the vile ZioNazi cult, not Jews. Before the arrival of the predatory European ZioNazi thugs in Palestine, the Arab Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived together much more peaceably than the Europeans.

          • peepsqueek

            As long as Jews, Christians, and others accepted a lower social status under the Islamic Empire.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You mean like everybody else have to accept apartheid persecution from the evil ZioNazi thug invaders of Palestine? Only the German Nazis were as evil as the vicious ZioNazi cult.

            Jewish American Activist Beaten by IDF & Police
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=VfMAFkgpRVg

            Israelis torturing non-Jewish children. Australian documentary film. Viewer discretion.
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=iqL048x4msM

            Israel kills Palestinians , Courage here هنا الشجاعه
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=3G0P2QBkT6w

            Occupation 101- Palestine VS Israel
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=1gTQZVfH16M

            Israeli Checkpoint Cruelty
            ->https://youtu.BE/QorJMPtz1Fw

            Officer Points Loaded Weapon into Face of Palestinian
            ->https://youtu.BE/xEmQVxfgIzw

            The daily humiliation of Palestinians at Israeli checkpoint
            ->https://youtu.BE/_nQB7LbXjAM

            This is why Palestinians hate Israel : you won’t see this on Zionist owned media
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=E23jXF_Naf4

            European Jew assaulting a Palestinian
            ->https://youtu.BE/p4FiizZirN4

          • peepsqueek

            You are correct that no one should have to accept injustice. That is why the Jews in Israel should never again rely on international opinions for their protection.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re right! Sick ZioNazi thugs with their long history of crimes against humanity shouldn’t rely on anybody’s opinions. They should all just leave.

          • peepsqueek

            What is your cultural heritage and where do you live? I know that you will dodge this question, hypocrite.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Today’s vicious psychopaths always try to dodge their guilt by deflecting to events other times, other places, by other people. Why do the perverts of the ZioNazi cult always do it? Because they know that they are guilty.

          • peepsqueek

            Nice dodge, hypocrite!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re so sweet when forced to admit what a evil cult you genocidal country stealers belong to. Do you even know what is meant by a conscience?

          • peepsqueek

            I have no religious affiliations, I am of mixed race and cultural heritage, and as an American and part Native American, I can say that I feel guilty of my combat role in the Vietnam War. Now, what is your cultural heritage and where do you live? I would not want you to be a hypocrite.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are a liar, a lobotomized ZioNazi cult member, who sneers at the misery your evil ZioNazi cult gratuitously causes others.

          • peepsqueek

            Nice dodge, Mr. Tecum!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nope! Bull’s eye!

          • Helen4Yemen

            There is no “American race”? Why are you shy to say you are part-Ashkenazi and part-Afro-American and part Native-American. I can see you feel shy about being part black. You already mentioned it to me and to remove the black part from your ancestry makes you look like you are ashamed to be part-black? Am I wrong in my assessment of you?

          • peepsqueek

            I am quite a mix, but it is irrelevant to the argument, as I am result of more than one injustice, and I am glad to have been born, and born in the USA. Most of the people here have a story of racial injustice, political injustice, economic injustice, etc. What is your excuse?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Still ashamed of your black African and Ashkenazi part of your ancestry. Otherwise why mention the Native American alone?

          • peepsqueek

            Native American gives me the right to judge you for living on my land that was brutally take, under your rules and your standards.

          • Helen4Yemen

            What do the invasion of what is now “America” and Palestine have in common? The invaders were white Europeans and the invaded people of color. In both cases they only wanted the land and not the people and attempted expulsion or genocide of the natives.

            You are comparing American colonization with Palestine? Why not compare it with other European and more recent colonization of Arab lands? The French were in Algeria for over 132 years and in a matter of days, 1,000,000 of them had to vacate from stolen Arab land. The British were in Aden (Yemen) for 160 years and they too had to vacate. The Ashkenazi is just another European squatting on Arab land and he has absolutely no problem going home back to Russia, Lithuania, Poland, Germany and so on. These colonial settlers cling to Palestine due to the billions of US$ that rains on theirs heads non-stop. The day this windfall dries up is the day these Europeans will begin the stampede back to the West.

            Remember: 6 million Ashkenazi in America came from Eastern Europe and are immigrants like the rest.

          • peepsqueek

            The fact is that most all tribal lands everywhere in the world have been taken over by stronger or larger groups to form Countries. That is the historical progression of mankind. In the year 1900, there were only 53 independent states, and within the same century there became 193 independent states. One of them is the tiny Country of Israel, the only one that you want removed from the map.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Christopher Hitchens: “Actually—and this was where I began to feel seriously uncomfortable—some such divine claim underlay not just ‘the occupation’ but the whole idea of a separate state for Jews in Palestine. Take away the divine warrant for the Holy Land and where were you, and what were you? Just another land-thief like the Turks or the British, except that in this case you wanted the land without the people. And the original Zionist slogan—’a land without a people for a people without a land’—disclosed its own negation when I saw the densely populated Arab towns dwelling sullenly under Jewish tutelage. You want irony? How about Jews becoming colonizers at just the moment when other Europeans had given up on the idea?”

          • peepsqueek

            Again, you tell a partial history of the area, throw in a couple favorable sound bites, and you dismiss everything that I have posted. Palestinian statehood could have been resolved with the 1947 U.N. Partition Resolution. However, collective Arab armies invaded the newly formed state of Israel, in an ultimately unsuccessful attempt to destroy it. It is ironic that Palestinian Arabs seek statehood now via a path they rejected for Israel all these years.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is the Ashkenazi state in Palestine not = French in Algeria?

            If no, tell me the difference?

          • peepsqueek

            How about Arabs or Ottoman Turks in Berber Algeria before the French? Where is your balanced scale? A little history up until the French.—— The Barbary pirates preyed on Christian and other non-Islamic shipping in the western Mediterranean Sea.[31] The pirates often took the passengers and crew on the ships and sold them or used them as slaves.[32] They also did a brisk business in ransoming some of the captives. According to Robert Davis, from the 16th to 19th century, pirates captured 1 million to 1.25 million Europeans as slaves.[33] They often made raids, called Razzias, on European coastal towns to capture Christian slaves to sell at slave markets in North Africa and the Ottoman Empire.[34][35]

            In 1544, Hayreddin captured the island of Ischia, taking 4,000 prisoners, and enslaved some 9,000 inhabitants of Lipari, almost the entire population.[36] In 1551, Turgut Reis enslaved the entire population of the Maltese island of Gozo, between 5,000 and 6,000, sending the captives to Libya. In 1554, pirates sacked Vieste in southern Italy and took an estimated 7,000 captives as slaves.[37]

            In 1558, Barbary corsairs captured the town of Ciutadella (Minorca), destroyed it, slaughtered the inhabitants and took 3,000 survivors as slaves to Istanbul.[38] Barbary pirates often attacked the Balearic Islands, and in response, the residents built many coastal watchtowers and fortified churches. The threat was so severe that residents abandoned the island of Formentera.[39]

            Between 1609 and 1616, England lost 466 merchant ships to Barbary pirates.[33]

            Bombardment of Algiers by the Anglo-Dutch fleet, to support the ultimatum to release European slaves, August 1816

            In July 1627 two pirate ships from Algiers sailed as far as Iceland,[40] raiding and capturing slaves.[41][42][43] Two weeks earlier another pirate ship from Salé in Morocco had also raided in Iceland. Some of the slaves brought to Algiers were later ransomed back to Iceland, but some chose to stay in Algeria. In 1629 pirate ships from Algeria raided the Faroe Islands.[44]

            In the 19th century, the pirates forged affiliations with Caribbean powers, paying a “licence tax” in exchange for safe harbour of their vessels.[45] One American slave reported that the Algerians had enslaved 130 American seamen in the Mediterranean and Atlantic from 1785 to 1793.[46]

            Piracy on American vessels in the Mediterranean resulted in the United States initiating the First (1801–1805) and Second Barbary Wars (1815). Following those wars, Algeria was weaker and Europeans, with an Anglo-Dutch fleet commanded by the British Lord Exmouth, attacked Algiers. After a nine-hour bombardment, they obtained a treaty from the Dey that reaffirmed the conditions imposed by Captain (later Commodore) Stephen Decatur (U.S. Navy) concerning the demands of tributes. In addition, the Dey agreed to end the practice of enslaving Christians.[47]

          • A.S.F.

            And the fact that Israel is the one sole majority Jewish nation on the planet and the one she happens to vent her spleen on is a mere coincidence. And there’s a bridge in Brooklyn she’d like to sell you (if only she can wrest it from the control of those genocidal “Schlomo’s” and “Goldbergs” she often refers to.)

          • Helen4Yemen

            Can I dare to mention BLACK being part of your racial makeup?

          • peepsqueek

            I have not had my DNA checked, so you cannot judge how much or how little Ashkenazi I may or may not have to your satisfaction. It would only matter to a racist like yourself.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are simply pathetic. There was no DNA for thousands of years when people used to say: I am half black and half Italian, etc. You are so pathetic that you feel so much shame not over one but two of your ancestry: ASHKENAZI AND BLACK AMERICAN.

          • peepsqueek

            black is a color, Italian is a mix of peoples that settled int he Italic peninsula.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Black” for all intents and purposes means people of African or semi-African descent! It used to be ‘black-American’ before it became ‘African-American”.

            Btw: Are the Ashkenazi considered WHITE? If not, what?

          • peepsqueek

            You claim to be semite, and semites are listed as white in the US and Europe. Semitic peoples were considered to be members of the Caucasian race, not dissimilar in appearance to the neighbouring Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, Berber and Kartvelian-speaking peoples of the region.

            Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians, Samaritans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have an ancient indigenous common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples.—Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, Alberto Piazza, The History and Geography of Human Genes, p. 243

          • peepsqueek

            There are 2,000 ethnic groups on the continent of Africa, with 2,000 distinct languages. African-America is a non-specific description.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are ashamed of two of the three components of your ancestry”

            You are ashamed of the Ashkenazi and black American part of your ancestry … hence you mentioned only Native-American. People normally say: I am half Irish, 1/4 African, 1/4 Middle Eastern. They do not mention only one part and leave the rest undisclosed.

          • A.S.F.

            Unfortunately, I have to conclude that YOU are 100% crazed by “Israeli Derangement Syndrome” and God-knows-What-Other co-morbid Affective/Brain disorders.

          • scorpion

            Funny how you throw accusations of morbid affective/brain disorders when there is proof Ashkenazis are 40% more likely to suffer from schizophrenia, which is a split personality, you don’t have one owing to being a programmed HASBARA robot!

          • A.S.F.

            You are too late. He already is.

          • scorpion

            Pot kettle?

          • scorpion

            Wouldn’t that require a brain with operational brains cells, not lobotomised ones?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Oh, the ZioNazi cult always leave a few behind to keep their minions operational, sometimes too many and they don’t follow orders.

          • A.S.F.

            It’s called to “Taqiyya.” Or, the Muslim version of “I get to lie my head off and get excused for it (or even celebrated for it) because I say it’s in service to the prophet.”

          • scorpion

            We know that as HASBARA!!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Mention one cultural heritage the Ashkenazi Jews can claim to be their that does not belong to their host countries or to the Arab peoples.

          • peepsqueek

            Helen, Semites are listed as white in the US and Europe. -Semitic peoples were considered to be members of the Caucasian race, not dissimilar in appearance to the neighbouring Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, Berber and Kartvelian-speaking peoples of the region. — American Journal of Human Genetics.

            Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians, Samaritans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have an ancient indigenous common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples.—Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, Alberto Piazza, The History and Geography of Human Genes

          • A.S.F.

            Tecumsah’s motto is: ” DEATH TO JEWS– I mean, ‘sick Zio-Nazi thugs.'”

          • peepsqueek

            I am sure that he meant it in the nicest way possible.–Sarcasm intended!
            Not a hateful bone in his body!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky : “Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach. That is our Arab policy; not what we should be, but what it actually is, whether we admit it or not. What need, otherwise, of the Balfour Declaration? Or of the Mandate? Their value to us is that outside Power has undertaken to create in the country such conditions of administration and security that if the native population should desire to hinder our work, they will find it impossible. And we are all of us ,without any exception, demanding day after day that this outside Power, should carry out this task vigorously and with determination.”

          • Omega

            Notice how he pretends to care for Christians. Zionist tactic.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Money! I think that Nastyahoo speaks for them all when he calls Christian Zionists, “Useful idiots!”

          • Omega

            I wasted hours exchanging with this one yesterday on YaLibnan. He uses the very same rhetoric here (normal when that’s all he’s got): continuous straw man arguments and non sequitur with Islam, Muslims, Arab countries, caring for Christians, etc.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Yes, he loves to waste your time. I think a good way to handle him is to use him as a straight man by which you can feed out evidence for others to see.

          • Steve Amos

            Very true, by any comparison with the time of israel, Palestine shared between all faiths was a far more peaceful place.

          • Omega

            The Zionist cult that caused so much terror in Europe that the UN felt obliged to grant a disproportionate amount of land to them in Palestine to stop their terrorism and delay further land grabbing in the Middle East. It was even worse in Palestine where 100,000 British soldiers could not contain them.

            … the UN recommended partition, with the assumption that a Zionist state would follow. This decision was directly influenced by the certainty of continuing Zionist terror if they did not, as was the disproportionately large land area the UN gave the Zionists.

            According to British Cabinet papers, giving the Zionists so much land up front was an attempt to delay the Zionists’ expansionist wars. They knew they couldn’t stop Israeli expansionism, but they hoped to delay it. This appeasement of course failed: within a few months of Resolution 181, the Zionist armies were already waging their first expansionist war, confiscating more than half of the Palestinian side of Partition.

            By 1946, Zionist terrorism had become the defining daily challenge of life in Palestine, and one hundred thousand British troops proved unable to contain it. Anyone or anything that kept Palestine a functioning society was a target of the Zionists. Trains, roads, bridges, communications, oil facilities, and Coast Guard stations were constantly being bombed. Utility workers, telephone repairmen, railway workers, bomb disposal personnel were murdered. Police were long a favoured target and were gunned down by the dozens.

            http://mondoweiss.NET/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/#sthash.UbF6tkek.dpuf<

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I have a letter from that time…

            On Jewish terrorism – British Secretary of State for the Colonies

            On September 10, 1945, the British Secretary of State for the Colonies submitted a memorandum to the Prime Minister in which he stated:
            The young Jewish extremists, the product of a vicious education system, know neither toleration nor compromise; they regard themselves as morally justified in violence directed against any individual or institution that impedes the complete fulfillment of their demands. In a similar spirit their ancestors in the second century B.C. laid waste Palestine until a ravaged countryside and ruined cities marked the zenith of Hasmonaean power. The prototypes of the Stern Group and National Military Organization are the Zealots and Assassins according to whose creed even Jews married to Gentiles were worthy of death in Roman times. These Zealots of today, from Poland, Russia and the Balkans have yet to learn toleration and recognition of the rights of others. As the Foreign Secretary said recently of the Balkans, these people do not understand the meaning of the word democracy. The Jewish Agency may deplore terrorism; but every immoderate speech … the flagrant disregard on the one hand for the authority of Government in maintaining law and order and on the other for the Arab case, the chauvinism and intolerance of their educational system, all contribute to an atmosphere in which the fanatic and the terrorist flourish. The Jewish leaders appear to be deliberately pushing extremism to a point when an explosion can no longer be avoided and do not scruple to use the plight of the Jews in Europe as a main political excuse. There are many Jews who deplore this state of affairs, but the rigidity of the discipline imposed by the political machine effectively discourages criticism except where it has no practical effect on Zionist policy. The Jews, like so much in Europe, need education in toleration and democracy.(6)

            ->https://web.archive.ORG/web/20051201064532/->http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.COM/EPP/Chapter04_1of2.htm

          • Jack

            peepsqueek – TecumsehUnfaced and Helen4yemen are admirers and supporters of the Houthi Yemenite killers in Yemen , that slaughter those days thousands of Innocent Civilians children and women.
            It’s a waste of time to debate with them.
            They admire those killers and are proud of it, but are hypocrites to play as Humanitarians caring for the Palestinian Muslim, while they support Muslim killing other Muslims, once this issue is brought up, they disappear.

          • peepsqueek

            Thank you Jack, but I like killing time by writing for the readers. Hope you enjoy my comments more than you enjoy theirs.

          • Helen4Yemen

            For the 100th time:

            If the Palestinians are not the natives of Palestine, who are the natives?

            Are the descendants of Mr. Terah from Ur in Iraq native to Palestine?

            Were the “Israelite” ever native to the region since they came from UR in Iraq?

          • peepsqueek

            The geographical area of Palestine has changed hands more than a Las Vegas gambler. Many of the former residents of the greater area are now extinct, conquered, marginalized, pushed of the land for a long time before the state of Israel.

            The periodic removal of Jews from Gaza goes back at least to the Romans in 61 of the Christian era, followed much later by the Crusaders, Napoleon, the Ottoman Turks, the British, the contemporary Egyptians, and again in 2005 by Israel, under pressure from settlement critics.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Who made them extinct? Did the people of Ur from Iraq who called themselves “Israelite” made them extinct?

            Deuteronomy 25:19 The Lord your God will help you capture the land, and he will give you peace. But when that day comes, you must wipe out Amalek so completely that no one will remember they ever lived.

            Deuteronomy 7:22 As you attack these nations, the Lord will force them out little by little. He won’t let you get rid of them all at once—if he did, there wouldn’t be enough people living in the land to keep down the number of wild animals. 23-24 But when you attack your enemies, the Lord will make them panic, and you will easily destroy them. You will defeat them one after another until they are gone, and no one will remember they ever lived.

          • Helen4Yemen

            When lily white Europeans who were calling themselves “Jews” arrived for the first time ever in 1882, who were the Muslims, Jews and Christians the white man found on that land since you said the natives had gone they way of the dinosaurs and become instinct?

            Palestine population

            Year – Muslim — Christian – Jews
            1851 – 300,000 – 27,000 – 13,000
            1861 – 325,000 – 31,000 – 13,000
            1878 – 386,320 – 40,588 – 13,942
            1879 – 390,597 – 41,331 – 14,197
            1880 – 394,935 – 41,089 – 14,460
            1881 – 399,334 – 42,864 – 14,731
            1882 – 403,795 – 43,659 – 15,011 Ashkenazi arrived
            1883 – 408,318 – 44,471 – 15,300
            1884 – 412,906 – 45,302 – 15,599
            1885 – 417,560 – 46,152 – 15,908
            1922 – 598,177 – 71,464 – 83,790 British Mandate began
            1924 – 627,660 – 74,094 – 94,945
            1926 – 663,613 – 76,764 – 149,500
            1928 – 695,280 – 79,812 – 151,656
            1930 – 733,149 – 84,986 – 164,796
            1932 – 771,174 – 90,624 – 180,793
            1934 – 807,180 – 99,532 – 253,700
            1935 – 826,457 – 103,371 – 320,358
            1936 – 848,342 – 106,474 – 370,483
            1937 – 875,947 – 109,764 – 386,074

          • peepsqueek

            After the Roman conquest of Judea, the Nabataeans and others, “Palastina” became a province of the pagan Roman Empire and then of the Christian Byzantine Empire, and very briefly of the Zoroastrian Persian Empire. In 638 AD, an Arab-Muslim Caliph took Palastina away from the Byzantine Empire and made it part of an Arab-Muslim Empire. The Arabs, who had no name of their own for this region, adopted the Greco-Roman name Palastina, that they pronounced “Falastin”.

            In 1099, Christian Crusaders from Europe conquered Palestine and took Jerusalem. After 1099, it was never again under Arab rule. The Christian Crusader kingdom lasted less than 100 years. Thereafter, Palestine was joined to Syria as a subject province first of the Egyptian Mameluks, and then of the Ottoman Turks, whose capital was in Istanbul.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Let’s start from the beginning.

            A guy called “Terah” lived in a place called Ur in Chaldea, by the Euphrates River in present day Iraq.

            He had 3 sons, Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

            Haran died in Ur but had 3 children named Lot, Iscah and Milcah.

            Terah moved from his hometown of Ur to Haran on the border of Turkey and Syria (600 miles away) and took with him his son Abraham and Abraham’s wife Sara and his grandson Lot.

            God came to speak to Abraham in Haran and told him there was a land called Canaan (400 miles away from Haran) and to go there and to take that place as his own for eternity. God tells Abraham to show no mercy to those people of Canaan 400 miles away.

            Nahor stayed behind and married his niece Milcah and they had many children among them Bethuel. But it looks like Nahor also moved from Ur to Haran.

            Bethuel had a son named Laban and a daughter named Rebecca.

            Sarah and Abram had 1 son named Isaac.

            Isaac married Rebecca (his cousin Bethuel’s daughter) and had two sons Jacob and Essau.

            Jacob married two of Laban’s daughters (his cousins) Leah and Rachel and their servants Zilpah and Bilhah and had a total of 12 sons and 1 daughter.
            ….
            Did I get it right? What we have here is an inbreeding group that took possession of a far away land that they had no connection to.

          • peepsqueek

            Ethnic groups of present day Iraq

            Arab 80%-85%

            Kurdish 10%-15%

            Turkoman, Assyrian and Other 5%

            Who took over this non-Arab neighborhood?

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Arab” is not an ethnic community as “American” is not. An Arab is anyone who speaks Arabic as a mother tongue and since Arabic is a Semitic language, all Arabs and Ethiopians are Semites. The Arabs are one people connected by a common language, alphabet, history, traditions, music, dance, art, literature, customs, i.e. a people. Arabs are Jews, Muslims, Christians. Jews are a religious group of very diverse racial make up such as Ugandan-Jews, Kenyan-Jews, Nigerian-Jews, Chinese-Jews, Yemeni-Jews, German-Jews. Nothing binds the Jews of many countries and races except for a common religion.

          • peepsqueek

            Thank you “Arabs are Jews, Muslims, Christians”, but Arab Countries all belong to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, and live under some form of Islamic Sharia. They are all signatories to the Cairo Declaration:
            Article 19: “There shall be NO crime or punishment EXCEPT as provided for in the Sharia.”
            Article 24 : “All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Sharia.”
            Article 25: “The Islamic Sharia is the ONLY source of reference for the explanation or clarification of ANY of the articles of this Declaration.”

            Yet, one tiny Jewish State offends you, because you claim they are white Jews. Do you have a balanced scale?

          • Helen4Yemen

            You have to give me one good reason why white Europeans whose ancestry has been confirmed at 99.9% European could not erect their state back where they are from? You are trying to make Ashkenazi’s seizure of Arab land like it is a normal thing to do. It is not normal. The Ashkenazi is a colonial settler and that is why he has walk around with gun strapped to his shoulder. Do not forget that the “coming back” fraud is now known to be a fraud. What else is the reason this white man is on Arab land?

          • peepsqueek

            Jews are a collective people, and not a specific race, who have maintained the ancient texts for thousands of years, just like Islamic clerics and academics claim the ancient texts as a cover for 57 Countries all belonging to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. I am an atheist, but just for mathematical balance, how many Jewish States are there?

            Your Arab land argument could also be called a “fraud” by your same standards. Most of your Arabs land was formerly not Arab people.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why is it the business of European Ashkenazi colonial settlers of Arab Palestine how the Arab peoples choose to govern themselves?

          • peepsqueek

            It is the business of Israelis and other non-Muslims who do not want to live as second class citizens under Islam, political Islam, and under some form of Islamic Sharia.

            The first wave of Arab immigration to the United States between the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when almost all immigrants were Christians. Most Maronites tend to be of Lebanese or Syrian extraction; those Christians of Palestinian background are often Eastern Orthodox.

          • A.S.F.

            Why is it the business of “Anti-Zionists” to dictate how Israel should govern itself or beg for their permission to exist at all (which permission will always be denied, accompanied by the inevitable frenzied violence.?)

          • Helen4Yemen

            – Would the Algerians been happy with the French partitioning their land?
            – Would the Egyptians been happy with the British partitioning their land?
            – Would the Libyans been happy with the Italians partitioning their land?

            The answer is NO! Why would Palestinians allow the foreign European-Ashkenazis to partition their land? Isn’t the Ashkenazi just as European as the French, the English, the Italians?

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi is European. Palestine is no Ashkenazi grandmother’s land, is it?

          • scorpion

            “inevitable frenzied violence” as meted out by the Irgun, Hagana and Stern Gang, who also murdered jews!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why did you not address the fact that what came to be known as “Israelite” were not indigenous to Palestine but to Ur in Iraq? How did a bunch of foreigners take over the land? And what language did they speak when they were in Ur?

          • peepsqueek

            If you go a little further back, we all came out of Africa. I get what you are saying, but you have no balanced scale, as no people remained on the spot they evolved from. You would have to apply your very same standard to every ethnic group.

          • Helen4Yemen

            But the Ashkenazi claim that same spot of earth that they conquered when they left their hometown of Ur is their ancestral land. I would think Ur is their ancestral land. Well, it is a good thing for the Africans that the Ashkenazi is not going that far back and claim to “return” to African countries.

          • peepsqueek

            I see you want to keep playing this game. The name Africa came into Western use through the Romans, who used the name Africa terra — “land of the Afri” (plural, or “Afer” singular) — for the northern part of the continent, as the province of Africa with its capital Carthage, corresponding to modern-day Tunisia, in which now calls itself an “Arab” and a Muslim state. Human history is not going to reverse itself to satisfy your perceptions. It only moves forward.

            Tunisia’s neighbor, Tripolitania (Tripoli, Libya) was under Roman domination between 146 BC to 670 AD. The Latin name Libya, at the time, referred to the continent of Africa in general. Tripoli is Tripolitania. For more than 400 years, Tripolitania and Cyrenaica were wealthy Roman provinces and part of a cosmopolitan state whose citizens shared a common language, legal system, and Roman identity, later came the Arab/Muslim invasions from the Middle East. Do you now want a do-over, so the original people can return?——- The city of Oea, on the site of modern Tripoli, was founded by the Phoenicians in the 7th century BC. It was conquered by the Greek rulers of Cyrenaica, who were in turn displaced by the Carthaginians.

            The Berbers are a non-Semitic people who since prehistoric times inhabited the Mediterranean coastline from Egypt to the Atlantic. They dominated North Africa until it was conquered by Arabs in the 7th century. The Maghreb region in northwestern Africa is believed to have been inhabited by Berbers from at least 10,000 BC, based on collective evidence.

          • A.S.F.

            Bravo! You are making Helen’s head spin (not that it isn’t already.) I bet it kinda looks like a scene from “The Exorcist.”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The excuse for that will be that they are defending themselves.

          • Helen4Yemen

            One would think that the “Israelite” clan originated by marrying nieces and cousins of one another and if their actual descendants were to be found today that it might surprise the world by how pure their DNA is by tracing it to Ur. You do agree with me that the DNA of the Israelite cannot be traced to Palestine but only to Ur since the descendants of Abraham married only people from Ur. Yes or no?

          • A.S.F.

            OMG, Helen…Give. It. Up.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ancestral land of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob is not Palestine but Ur, alongside of the Euphrates in Iraq. Yes or no?

          • scorpion

            Ditto!

          • Helen4Yemen

            And what language did they speak when they were in Ur?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Good for you! You finally admit that the vile ZioNazi cult had no claim, no right to assault Palestine.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            “Balanced scale”? What do mean by that burble indelibly engraved on your brain? The right to do savage atrocities?

          • Omega

            You repeated this lie several times on this page. Quit spamming filthy troll.

          • Jack

            Omega – the new recruited soldier in Helen4yemen ARMY that fights for ISLAM !
            Lie – They admit it both , you do support those killers as well Senile
            Get back to your cage

          • Omega

            Nobody was recruited, especially not for Islam. Like the parasite you are, you infected American Thinker and now this place after Helen invited people to comment.

          • Jack

            “Helen4Yemen to TecumsehUnfaced • 18 days ago
            Today marks the first day where I started reaching out to people who will fight on behalf of Muslims. It was always encouraging for me when I send you links where discussions are ongoing and seeing you participate. “

          • Omega

            And another manic-depressive tantrum.

            How did you end up here in the first place when you never heard of MEMO? Were you also recruited dimwit?

          • Jack

            Omega the senile….. internet, is open, you search Idiot, you find…..
            Helen4yemen is a double agent, she recruited me, but to the other side, so Idiots like you will follow……
            prepare you weapons, you are a soldier for Allah now !

          • Omega

            I don’t know if Helen4Yemen is Muslim, which anyway is irrelevant, but she has admitted that she is not religious. I believe her as I have never seen a comment posted by her about Islam and/or Muslims – that too is actually irrelevant.

            That being said, I did find it odd that she did the same mistake twice in posting her invitation publicly. You obviously read her first (to American Thinker) and second (to MEMO) – that doesn’t mean she recruited you or that she is a double agent.

            I would have to be a militant Muslim to be a soldier of Allah but I am neither military not Muslim.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Hi Omega!

            (a) It is true that I am firmly and resolutely non-religious and been that way since my early teens. I most certainly have a problem with religion itself but not with people of religion.

            b) Yes, I made a mistake the way I tried to have a team setup and someone responded back to my channel that he saw the message I sent to you. That was why I immediately deleted that message I posted at my blog that was addressed to you and the rest. It does not mean that I have given up … but I have to think of a better way … perhaps initially to communicate to you and the rest via email.

            c) This “Jack” is a pest, he is blocked from my account most of the time. He has this obsession with me, if he finds me anywhere posting it is like he won a lottery; he would spend his entire day commenting back to all my comments. Because my ID has the word “Yemen”, he has taken it upon himself to read on Yemen and the Houthis. He is a bore and a waste of time … that is why I do not respond to him.

          • Omega

            Hi Helen,

            I know that you are not religious but even if you were, it’s irrelevant but perfectly fine as it is your right. The pesky likes of Jack want to equate Islam/Muslims to the world’s problems (they are in fact only parroting the Zionist propaganda) in order for the Zionist state to look righteous in legitimizing what they do to the Palestinians. Most of the world is oblivious to how the Zionist state was created with terrorism (in Europe and in Palestine) in killing Jews, Palestinians, Europeans and Brits. Hence why imposing their narrative (in spreading lies) is crucial to them. The Mondoweiss article depicted such reality best: Israel has one of the world’s largest militaries, but its most powerful weapon, the one without which all its others would be impotent, is its Narrative, its creation myth, its auto-biography.

            I won’t sugar coat it: it took you an awful lot of time to correct your second screw up. After HebAlba notified you that your comment to me showed on YaLibnan’s homepage, you acknowledged it within the hour to her but left you post on for several hours ( for everyone to see) – to then edited it to ‘deleted’ and then deleted completely/officially. I had sent you a link on how to created a private Disqus channel where you can invite people. I also replied to you Yahoo email.

            Jack is an immature, uneducated (read: dumb), parasitical troll who will do whatever it takes to try to silence the truth and facts (in diverting, diluting and polluting comments). I don’t have to point out at his absolute lack of class, manners, dignity and respect. He will seek the support of other hasbara trolls or people who lack knowledge/information in repeating whatever lies he exploits at that moment (linking the word Yemen and the Houthis for instance). Attacking the person is how he tries to discredit the facts/truth the person posts. When faced with questions, he throws manic-depressive tantrums to find an exit.

          • Jack

            Helen4Yemen Omega • 12 hours ago
            Hi, is it ok if I invite you to comment at blogs where Palestinian type of discussion is going on. For example today, here
            http://www.americanthinker….
            Let me know if you would like me to continue …or simply say you are not interested and I will stop.

            Salute to your commander …….

          • Omega

            That was not 12 hours ago, it was over 10 days ago on another website.

            Inviting people to comment on sites is not recruiting.

            Quit throwing manic-depressive tantrums.

          • scorpion

            You must be expecting a miracle!

          • Jack

            Omega- well blind and senile, as you don’t see The Camels’ Dung, your Jihadist Arab Friend spread all over…..

          • Omega

            You’re continuing your manic-depressive tantrums here?

          • Jack

            Omega – I bet you got here as you like the smell of the Camels’ Dung spread all over by your Jihadist Arab Friends, who support the Houthi Killers that slaughter thousands of Innocent civilians children and Women.
            This is your Arab Culture, you kill each other, as long as you have someone to Blame.

          • Omega

            I came here after Helen invite to comment here. What about you? You saw her comment and followed to continue your bs.

          • scorpion

            Pathetic everyone who supports Palestine is not Muslim. Your comment shows your state of mind pure gobbledegook!

          • peepsqueek

            I am correcting them and challenging them, whether they like it or not. Hope you are enjoying some of it.

          • A.S.F.

            I am!

          • Jack

            Sure, that’s why I am here .

          • scorpion

            Failing miserably too!

          • scorpion

            Unlike the Jews who were only too happy to kill other jews and do experiments on them and stealing children you mean?

          • scorpion

            Merciless thugs, wouldn’t that be Inbred Diaper Farce?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Look at me! I can say that I am Semite without any hesitation! Can you?

          • Jack

            Helen4Yemen – I can tell you that you look like the DEVIL……..

          • peepsqueek

            Does that make you superior to all the non-semites that have always lived in the Middle East?

          • Helen4Yemen

            No, none at all! But the Ashkenazi silly claim to be Semites is like if I were to claim to be Swedish. Nonsense. We all much accept and embrace our own identities and heritages and the identity and heritage is totally and completely European (Poland, Lithuania …)

          • Michael Abramov

            Dear A,S.F., You are going down the same road as I did with this woman. I do not communicate with her anymore. She appears to belong to a group of pro-Palestinians that is totally committed to the ‘ethnic’ identity of the Arab Palestinian. As you and I know, Palestinian was the brain-child of Yasar Arafat. Prior to 1967, they were simply known as Arabs.

            Humanity, understanding, sympathy, dialogue etc; are not important to her. What is important is her is the interpretation of birthright. I have met these people before and frankly it saddens me that in this age of enlightenment, there are still people out there that live in tribes.

            Do not waste your time, she does not have the intellect to debate. She only knows how to take statistics from the internet (dubious sources) and list them as a rebuttal.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Typical! When lobotomized ZioNazis can’t refute the exposure of the horror of their cult, they smear, smear, smear.

            But look at what they have to hide!

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 500 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED and buried under pine forests

            Drove attacks on over 700,000 Arab Jews to drive them into conquered Palestine

          • peepsqueek

            Your numbers are inflated, and much of this happened during the confines of war, which several Arab states initiated against the newly formed state.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nope, those numbers are very close to those reported elsewhere.

            You should revealing yourself repeatedly as a liar. It is a documented fact, that it was the evil ZioNazi cult that began the war…

            Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
            Middle East – Tom Suarez on January 1, 2017

            From the beginning of World War II through to the summer of 1947, there were virtually no Palestinian attacks, even though Zionist terror against Palestinians continued. A British explanation for the Palestinians’ failure to respond in kind was that they understood that the attacks were a trap, intended to elicit a response that the Zionists would frame as an attack against which they would have to ‘defend’ themselves. This was a Zionist tactic noted by the British as early as 1918, and it remains Israel’s default strategy today, most blatantly in Gaza, but also in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

            As late as the fall of 1947, the Jewish Agency was concerned by the Palestinians’ failure to respond to its provocation, but when the end of 1947 came and the Jewish Agency could wait no longer for the civil war it needed, it was simply a matter of ratcheting up the terror

            ->http://mondoweiss.NET/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

          • scorpion

            “”several Arab states initiated against the newly formed state.”” Only to prevent further massacres and they never crossed the green line, which I am sure Israelis know nothing about!

            No mention of the Egyptian POWs executed in 1967 or USS Liberty!

          • peepsqueek

            There were no massacres, but there was displacement during the confines of war. Now you want to skip ahead 20 years to 1967 USS Liberty– The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was a grievous error, attributable to the fact that it occurred in the midst of the confusion of a full-scale war in 1967. Ten official United States investigations and three official Israeli inquiries have all conclusively established the attack was a tragic mistake. The United States had announced that it had no naval forces within hundreds of miles of the battle front on the floor of the United Nations a few days earlier. Reparations were paid by the Israelis to the US Government and to the families of the victims.

          • scorpion

            Typical liar, there were massacres which prompted other Arabs to attempt to prevent it!

            USS LIBERTY was a deliberate act, as the Israelis were jamming some of the frequencies the spy ship was using.

            Supporting the authenticity of the tape, in 2004 the Jerusalem Post published what it said was a transcript of Israeli military transmissions directing the attack on the USS Liberty. In that transcript, at precisely the same time, 2:14pm, the exchange translated from Hebrew to English is reported:

            “Kislev, what country?” (Answer): “Apparently American.”

            [Jerusalem Post archives, “Liberty revisited: the attack,” June 4, 2004, by Arieh O’Sullivan,

            The Post transcript ends with this transmission. However, the attack continued for another hour and a half. Twenty minutes after the indication of positive identification, an Israeli torpedo boat approaches and fires five torpedoes, one of which hits the starboard bow and nearly sinks the ship.

            Although the Israeli government maintains to this day that the Liberty was mistaken for an Egyptian ship, the Israeli attack aircraft were unmarked. The Liberty survivors and the many skeptics of Israel’s “accident” explanation point out that open warfare was already taking place at the time with Egypt, and there would be no reason to use aircraft with its markings meticulously painted over.

          • peepsqueek

            Can you give one good reason why Israel, who, at that point, had the war in the bag, deliberately attack the United States? What could have possibly been the greater benefit to attack an American ship? Please do not dodge this question. Then you could actually get back to the article.

          • scorpion

            To cover up their attack on Egypt.

            To hide the fact that they were executing Egyptian soldiers.

            To get US involved in the war.

          • peepsqueek

            If Israel took out all of the Egyptian Air Force on June 5, and they had the ground war sewed up by June 7, tell the readers again why Israel needed to attack the USA on June 8th.

          • scorpion

            New York Times columnist James Reston reported that “Egypt does not war […] certainly is not ready for war”
            (New York Times, 4 and 5 June 1967).

            The Israelis themselves were perfectly aware of this, given their sophisticated military intelligence capabilities. Later, in the first few days of the war, they were so concerned that their plans for attacking Syria would be discovered that they deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, killing 33 American sailors, in an attempt to prevent it from monitoring war preparations.

          • peepsqueek

            May 30th 1967
            “The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel … to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not of more declarations.” – Gamal Abdel Nasser speech

            If Israel took out all of the Egyptian Air Force on June 5, and they had the ground war sewed up by June 7, please tell the readers again why Israel needed to attack the USA on June 8th.

          • scorpion

            Israel began planning the re-conquest of the Sinai soon after its forced withdrawal in 1956. In 1967, as in 1956, Israel waited for favourable circumstances to put its plan into action.

            In 1967, however, Israel had a greater appreciation of the necessity and utility of a sophisticated publicity campaign, waged through the international media, to convince Western opinion that any Israeli military actions could only be construed as acts of self-defense. This publicity campaign was two-pronged: stressing that the Arabs attacked Israel and that Israel was in danger of annihilation. Both presuppositions were patently false.

            In the early hours of 5 June 1967, Israel announced to a credulous Western world that the Egyptian Air Force had initiated hostile actions. In fact, it was the Israelis who had attacked the Egyptians and destroyed virtually the entire Egyptian Air Force while its fleet was still on the ground.

            General Matityahu Peled, one of the architects of the Israeli conquest, committed what the Israeli public considered blasphemy when he admitted the true thinking of the Israeli leadership: “The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war”
            (Ha’aretz, 19 March 1972).

            Israeli Air Force General Ezer Weizmann declared bluntly that “there was never any danger of extermination”
            (Ma’ariv, 19 April 1972).

            Mordechai Bentov, a former Israeli cabinet minister, also dismissed the myth of Israel’s imminent annihilation: “All this story about the danger of extermination has been a complete invention and has been blown up a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territories”
            (Al Hamishmar, 14 April 1972).

            After the 1967 war Israel, claimed it invaded because of imminent Arab attack. It claimed that Nasser’s closing of the Straits of Tiran constituted an act of war. It also cited Syrian shelling on the demilitarized zone of the Syrian-Israeli border. The claim that the Arabs were going to invade appears particularly ludicrous when one recalls that a third of Egypt’s army was in Yemen and therefore quite unprepared to launch a war. On the Syrian front, Israel was engaging in threats and provocations that evidenced many similarities to its behaviour in the lead up to the Gaza raid of 1955.

            The demilitarized zone on the Syrian-Israeli border was established by agreement on 20 July 1949. Israeli provocations were incessant and enabled Israel to increase and extend its sovereignty by encroachment over the entire Arab area. According to one UN Chief of Staff, Arab villagers were evicted and their homes destroyed
            (E.L.M. Burns, Between Arab and Israeli, Ivan Obolensky, 1962, pp. 113-114).

            Another Chief of Staff described how the Israelis ploughed up Arab land and “advanced the ‘frontier’ to their own advantage”
            (Carl von Horn, Soldiering for Peace, Cassell, 1966, p. 79).

            Israel attempted to evict the Arabs living on the Golan and annex the demilitarized zone. When the Syrians inevitably responded, Israel claimed that “peaceful” Israeli farmers were being shelled by the Syrians. Unmentioned was the fact that the “farmers” were armed and using tractors and farm equipment to encroach on the demilitarized zone
            (David Hirst, The Gun and the Olive Branch: the Roots of Violence in the Middle East, Faber and Faber, 1984, pp. 213-15). This was part of a “premeditated Israeli policy [..] to get all the Arabs out of the way by fair means or foul.”

            Shortly after the Syrian response on 7 April 1967, the Israeli Air Force attacked Syria, shooting down six planes, hitting thirty fortified positions and killing about 100 people (Hirst, op. cit., p. 214). It was unlikely that any Syrian guns would have been fired if not for Israel’s provocation. Israel’s need for water also played a role in the 1967 attack. The invasion completed Israel’s encirclement of the headwaters of the Upper Jordan River, its capture of the West Bank and the two aquifers arising there, which currently supply all the groundwater for northern and central Israel.

            The Israelis followed-up their massive retaliation with stern warnings. On 11 May 1967, General Yitzhak Rabin said on Israeli radio: “The moment is coming when we will march on Damascus to overthrow the Syrian Government”
            (Godfrey Jansen, “New Light on the 1967 War”, Daily Star, London, 15, 22, 26 November 1973).

            Syria sought Egypt’s assistance under their Mutual Defense Pact of November 1966. Nasser could not afford to stand idly by. He ordered the removal of the small UN force stationed in Sinai and closed the Straits of Tiran. This action provided the casus belli that Israel soon invoked.

            Nasser’s move was a gesture of solidarity with Syria and no threat to Israel’s economy or its security. The closure of the Straits did not force Israel into war. Claims of economic strangulation were absurd since only 5 percent of Israel’s trade depended on free movement through the Straits of Tiran. No Israeli merchant vessel had passed through the Straits during the previous two years
            (Michael Howard and Robert Hunter, Israel and the Arab World: the Crisis of 1967, Adelphi Papers 41, Institute for Strategic Studies, 1967, p. 24).

            In sum, the threat to Israel’s survival in 1967 was non-existent. According to the British newspaper The Observer, Nasser’s purpose was clearly “to deter Israel rather than provoke it to a fight”
            (The Observer, London, 4 June 1967).

            New York Times columnist James Reston reported that “Egypt does not war […] certainly is not ready for war”
            (New York Times, 4 and 5 June 1967).

            The Israelis themselves were perfectly aware of this, given their sophisticated military intelligence capabilities. Later, in the first few days of the war, they were so concerned that their plans for attacking Syria would be discovered that they deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, killing 33 American sailors, in an attempt to prevent it from monitoring war preparations.

            A few months after the war, Yitzhak Rabin remarked: “I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai on 14 May would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it”
            (Le Monde, 29 February 1968).

            Israeli General Peled was even more frank: “To pretend that the Egyptian forces massed on our frontiers were in a position to threaten the existence of Israel constitutes an insult not only to the intelligence of anyone capable of analyzing this sort of situation, but above all an insult to the Zahal [Israeli army]”
            (Ha’aretz, 19 March 1972).

            Finally, in 1982, the Israelis admitted that they had started the war (although official Zionist propaganda in the United States still does not acknowledge this fact). Prime Minister Menachem Begin, in a speech delivered at the Israeli National Defense College, clearly stated that: “The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him”
            (Jerusalem Post, 20 August 1982).

          • scorpion

            “There were no massacres,”

            The numerous acts of terrorism against Palestinian civilians during the Nakba of 1947-1949, such as the massacre at Deir Yassin.

            April 1948 with the bloodier mass murder that occurred in the village of al-Dawayima in October 1948 after Israel had declared statehood.

            the shameful blaming of Holocaust survivors by Israeli and Zionist officials for acts of collective punishment carried out in secret by Israeli military forces, such as the massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya in 1953, led by Unit 101 under the command of Ariel Sharon.

          • peepsqueek

            1948 was during the confines of war, Deir Yassin was the high ground in the battle. The Israeli attack on Qibya, Jordan, came against the backdrop of repeated cross-border attacks by Jordanians on Israeli civilians in the years after Israel’s War of Independence. After the June 1949 cease-fire between Israel and its Arab neighbors, including Jordan, with whom Israel shared its longest international border, the Mixed Armistice Commission and United Nations Truce Supervision Organization were set up to lessen the danger of violence along Israel’s borders. Both failed. Between June 1949 and October 1954, Israel accused Jordan of violating the armistice agreement 1,612 times, killing at least 124 Israelis, wounding hundreds more.

            On October 13, 1953, Jordanian terrorists infiltrated the Israeli border and threw a grenade into a house, killing a mother and two children in Tiryat Yehuda. In an effort to prevent further attacks and protect its borders, Israel launched a reprisal raid on Qibiya, a Jordanian town across the border from Tiryat Yehuda. Unit 101, led by then Colonel Ariel Sharon, destroyed 50 homes, killing 69 Jordanian civilians who were hidden inside and had gone unnoticed. Although Sharon claimed he did not know the houses were occupied, the event still shocked and embarrassed Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion. Nevertheless, the attack, and other such reprisal raids on Jordanian terrorist and army posts brought relative quiet to Israel’s Jordanian border. Today, Jordan and Israel share decades of peace, trade, and tourism.

          • Steve Amos

            I wonder if you can explain the text of the Balfour declaration in 1917 where I talks about giving the jews a home in Palestine.
            Arafat was a great man but I don’t believe even he could travel time??

          • Jack

            I wonder if you can explain the following text ??

            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
            PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
            against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
            today there is no difference between Jordanians,
            Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
            tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
            a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
            that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
            people’ to oppose Zionism.

            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
            While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
            Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
            reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
            a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

          • Steve Amos

            Yeah right, there was nobody there right?
            “We’re innocent, we just moved into an empty land, what? These bricks im standing on, no they fell out of the sky”

          • Steve Amos

            I can completely explain your comment: its completely irrelevant, unless you are seriously suggesting there was no one in Palestine at the creation of Israel.

          • Jack

            It is Amazing how stupid you can be……..
            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
            PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

            Go and Learn the meaning of PEOPLE

          • Steve Amos

            I’m stupid but you believe that Arafat went back in time to 1917 and put the Palestine into the Balfor Declaration, I suppose he also went back a couple of thousand years and scribbled on Ptolemy’s map too?

          • Jack

            You are really stupid ! the Area in the time of the British Mandate was called “Palestine and Eretz Israel” (the Land of Israel).
            It has nothing to do with the “Palestinian People” that never existed.

          • Steve Amos

            I suppose you are suggesting again that there was nobody there, while you call me stupid, keep typing bud, its really interesting, honest.

          • Steve Amos

            So while you are calling me stupid are you suggesting that there was no one in Palestine, was Jerusalem deserted?

            If not, then who was there, census figures suggest there were people there, if you look at places like wiki or other google sources they broadly agree that in 1922 there were 84000 Jews, 71000 Christians and 589000 Muslims. Incidentally during the many hundreds of years that Palestine was self determined, all faiths lived together in what can only be described, (compared to today), as peace.

          • Jack

            Yes stupid, sure there were people over there, but Most of those who lived there at that time were populated by Egyptian Arab peasants and former soldiers of Ali, Ibrahim Pasha’s conquests had a significant demographic change, as the region had an influx of Muslim tribal immigrants.
            But There were NEVER PALESTINIAN PEOPLE as a nation.
            That’s what the PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein says

            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”

          • Steve Amos

            Conquest and immigration can only go so far, there is no recorded complete annihilation of everyone in Palestine, so it follows that there was a people in Palestine that, like everywhere else can claim historical provenance. Even if you accept the extreme and narrow perspective you offer whoever was there…..was there, its an indefensible position to say were just going to take it off them.

          • Mike Abramov

            The text of the Balfour Declaration was only possible because Britain and France, through the Sykes-Piqot, Agreement of 1916 had already carved up the Levant. If the French had taken Palestine, it would not have been called the Balfour Declaration.

            To answer your question, the text is very simple. ‘The right for the Jews to have a homeland providing it did not upset the indigenous population’.

            Palestinian Arabs reacted in the same way that Europeans are now with the huge influx of Syrians coming in to Europe. Some Arabs treated Jewish emigration as a threat to the status quo. In reality, the Arabs had no trouble being governed by a foreign power i.e. Britain, but you may refer to Prof. Ilan Pappe who clearly states that the Arabs did not want Jews ‘en masse’ in the Holy Land. In other words, the Arabs did not want Jews as neighbours.

            There are 1.5 million Arabs living in Israel. Their choice.

            Arafat was a con man. He died with $8,000,000 in a French bank account. His people’s money. His wife lived in France because Arafat was gay.

          • Steve Amos

            No, I think what you must mean is there are millions of Palestinians living in occupied and stolen Palestinian land that a racist, foreign funded, terrorist would be government call Israel.
            isn’t it time to right the wrongs of the evil Zionist cult that has wrecked havoc on this world for over fifty years? As long as we are complicit in enabling the continued brutal occupation and apartheid in Palestine we will suffer the retaliatory attacks on our city’s.
            Don’t let the Zionist owned media convince you that would be giving in to terrorism, we are complicit in the terrorism, we are the proper bad guys here as difficult as it is to accept.
            We must lobby and petition our MP’s, we must make this issue heard, and we must not allow self serving Zionist lobbying groups to stifle any debate.

          • Mike Abramov

            Oh dear, you have run out of arguments and started with the Dr Goebbels rant. Blame the Jews (Zionists).

            What’s changed since Nazi Germany’s anti-Semitic pillage of the Jews is this….. Substitute Jew for Zionist. Jews dominate the world press (1935 Germany). Zionists dominate world press (2017).

            ‘Jews stole land from the Palestinians’. Answer this question;

            Prove to me, as if you are in a court of law, that the Zionists stole land from the Arabs.

            I await your reply.

          • Steve Amos

            Ok here’s the thing, THERES A TON OF EVIDENCE IN FALKS REPORT BUT YOU WONT TAKE ON A LINE OF IT EVEN AFTER THREE DAYS.
            Then after all this crap you’ve given anyone just for saying we should have an open debate you have the audacity to tell me to act like it’s a court of law.
            Your not in charge, you have no truth, you’re not capable of sticking to the subject of this very page that you have spent three days on.

            Look, just go and swallow another blue pill, sit with the other brainwashed bugs and congratulate yourselves.
            Palestinians only crime was to live in Palestine when israel gave the green light for zionist ethnic cleansing, all of that is perfectly well documented in white papers, press reports personal accounts UN reports, videos, the worlds formost academic by accepted academic majority, (Chomsky).
            In fact anyone of repute or intelligence, you have all the usual party line answers that typify the average electronic warrior of israel.
            But still, you whine,”everyone hates Jews”, they don’t tho, people are people, they just want peace and security for their family’s, that’s everywhere all over the world no matter what kind of god they believe.
            The real shame is that when the cult of Zionism shouts about a home for the Jews, some people actually believe it, so they tie real believers with zionist thugs.
            Zionism creates antisemitism, because when people see an injured man being shot in the head in the name of a home for the Jews, well it just doesn’t sit right to make a understatement.
            Incidentally the laughable sentence given to a ‘soldier’, for shooting an injured man in the head really typifies what you probably think is justice.

          • Mike Abramov

            Steve – I see your diatribe is full of the sympathy you feel for the Arabs (pre-1967)/Palestinians (post-1967). I am not doubting your sincerity and integrity at the moment. However, you are getting angry with me which indicates that you are running out of arguments.

            I do not believe that Zionism is the cause of anti-Semitism. Israel has only been in existence since 1948 so that does not make sense. Where your allegations fall down is that you quote Noam Chomsky and Richard Falk. Two Jews who have been life-long left-wingers, anti-Israel and atheists. The 5th Column.

            Zionism is a passion, an emotion linked to the spiritual love of Eretz Yisroel. When I arrive in Israel, I get a rush of ‘coming home’. When it’s time to return to my native land, I do not want to go. I am a spiritual person sensitive to these vibrations.

            Frankly, Richard Falk, is a cold fish. His eyes betray this. He is not a good Jew or a good human being. With his energy and intelligence he could have helped many countries in the UN, but no. He focused instead on hatred and spurious political teachings about Zionism. A wasted life Shame.

            Noam Chomsky is a leftover from the rebellious 1950s and 1960s. A born radical, ‘if it is not left-wing, it is not good’. Chomsky has a good heart, but is saturated in left-wing politics and cannot see the wood for the trees.

            I never said ‘everyone hates Jews’. Where did you get that from?

            Finally, you have commented on the ‘shooting’ of an injured (Palestinian) man in the head, but you say nothing of the 40+ Israelis that have been stabbed, shot and run down in the past year. Are you saying that it’s OK for Israelis to get killed, but not Palestinians?

          • Steve Amos

            Palestinians do not profess to be a professional army, it is not illegal under international law to struggle and fight against an occupying force and these desperate people are, by and large, cilillians taking on heavily armed soldiers.
            You claim to be sensitive but follow and subscribe to a most brutal regime of terror and apartheid.
            You are no better than the kkk, no more humane, and no less fit to join the anules of history where backward thinking racist thugs belong.

          • A.S.F.

            Oh, terror is legal under International law? That’s a new one on me!

          • Steve Amos

            Apparently terrorism is tolerated or the IDF and Zionist thugs that terrorise, dispossess and murder innocent Palestinians would all be brought to account.
            as for your charge of terrorism, a people under occupation cannot be charged with terrorism under international law, as you well know, its why you imprison children for throwing stones under military law, thanks for bringing that up because its particularly enlightening in respect of Israeli inhumanity.

          • scorpion

            United Nations Resolution 3103 states that:

            The struggle of peoples under colonial and alien domination and racist regimes for the implementation of their right to self-determination and independence is legitimate and in full accordance with the principles of international law.

            Any attempt to suppress the struggle against colonial and alien domination and racist regimes is incompatible with the Charter of the United Nations, the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples and constitutes a threat to international peace and security.

            Certainly, “colonial and alien domination” characterizes Israel by its own admission, and “racist regimes” applies because Israel insists it is a “Jewish” state even though half the population under its control is not Jewish. This means that Palestinian resistance, besides being justified politically and morally, is legal under international law.

            Israel is not a homogenous state, it is not a Jewish state, and it is not a democracy.

          • Steve Amos

            38 israeli’s killed:
            31 civilians
            5 security personal
            2 killed by friendly fire
            558 wounded (civilians and security forces)[6]

            235 Palestinian’s killed:
            10 civilians
            101 attackers
            62 alleged attackers
            62 rioters[7]
            3,917 injured
            11,611 suffered from smoke inhalation[8]
            7,955 detained[9]

            That’s nearly 8000 detained, and still your ‘morale’ army is losing, it is simply not possible to kill a nation. I’m quite sure history books will compare your folly with the Nazis.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Zionism is a passion, an emotion linked to the spiritual love of Eretz
            Yisroel. When I arrive in Israel, I get a rush of ‘coming home’. When
            it’s time to return to my native land, I do not want to go. I am a
            spiritual person sensitive to these vibrations.

            Only lobotomized minions of the ZioNazi cult could yammer such nonsense. You ZioNazi minions stole what was never yours by vast floods of atrocities.

            The Butchery Begins: Deir Yasin

            The process was one of sustained slaughter as village after village was wiped out. The killing was intended to cause people to flee for their lives.

            The commander of the Haganah, Zvi Ankori, described what happened: “I saw cut off genitalia and women’s crushed stomachs … It was direct murder.” [52]

            Menachem Begin gloated over the impact throughout Palestine of the Nazi-like operations he commanded at Deir Yasin. Lehi and IZL Commandos stormed the village of Deir Yasin on April 9, 1948, slaughtering 254 men, women and children.

            A legend of terror spread amongst Arabs who were seized with panic at the mention of our Irgun soldiers. It was worth half a dozen battalions to the forces of Israel. Arabs throughout the country … were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. This mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede. Of the 800,000 Arabs who lived on the present territory of the state of Israel, only some 165,000 are still there. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated. [53]

            The implementation of this program was carried out in part by Menachem Begin and in part by his future successor as Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, as military commanders of the Irgun and the Lohamei Herut Israel (Lehi), i.e., Fighters for the Freedom of Israel. Inhabitants were force marched in blood-soaked clothing through the streets of Jerusalem to jeering on-lookers, before disappearing.

            ->https://www.marxists.ORG/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch04.htm

          • Mike Abramov

            Sir – if you are going to have a dialogue with me, you must make an effort to refrain from using insults. I have never called you anything rude.

            Please understand, Palestine and Israel are at war. You can pour all the ‘historical’ facts about Deir Yasin you like. It’s history. We must have a constructive dialogue not a slagging match.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are lying. You are not interested in a dialogue, especially with your declaration of a phony passion for a homeland never yours. You are not the least bit in relieving or compensating the tremendous griefs inflicted by the ZioNazi cultists on the people of Palestine.

            Aren’t you insulting me all the time with lies to cover up vast floods of atrocities by your ZioNazi cult? You are extremely rude to keep playing me for an idiot and calling me insane for not believing your obvious mendacities.

            No, Palestine and the ZioNazi Thugdom are not having a war. Palestine is suffering a savage invasion by minions of the European ZioNazi cult. That’s both history and today, demonstrating that there is no integrity or humanity in psychopathic hearts of the ZioNazi invaders.

            Jewish American Activist Beaten by IDF & Police
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=VfMAFkgpRVg

            Israelis torturing non-Jewish children. Australian documentary film. Viewer discretion.
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=iqL048x4msM

            Israel kills Palestinians , Courage here هنا الشجاعه
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=3G0P2QBkT6w

            Occupation 101- Palestine VS Israel
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=1gTQZVfH16M

            Israeli Checkpoint Cruelty
            ->https://youtu.BE/QorJMPtz1Fw

            Officer Points Loaded Weapon into Face of Palestinian
            ->https://youtu.BE/xEmQVxfgIzw

            The daily humiliation of Palestinians at Israeli checkpoint
            ->https://youtu.BE/_nQB7LbXjAM

            This is why Palestinians hate Israel : you won’t see this on Zionist owned media
            ->https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=E23jXF_Naf4

          • scorpion

            “”Israel has only been in existence since 1948″” The TRUTH!!!

          • scorpion

            “I do not believe that Zionism is the cause of anti-Semitism.”

            Herzl regarded Zionism’s triumph as inevitable, not only because life in Europe was ever more untenable for Jews, but also because it was in Europe’s interests to rid the Jews and relieved of anti-Semitism: The European political establishment would eventually be persuaded to promote Zionism. Herzl recognized that anti-Semitism would be harnessed to his own–Zionist-purposes.” (Righteous Victims, p. 21)

          • scorpion

            In 1977 the Oriental Jews of Israel gained their revenge on the Israeli Labour Party when they put Menachem Begin of Likud in power. In the early fifties the need for immigrants was such that a columnist in Davar, paper of Histadrut, wrote:
            ‘I shall not be ashamed to confess that if I had the power, as I have the will, I would select a score of efficient young men – intelligent, decent, devoted to our ideal and burning with the desire to help redeem Jews—and I would send them to the countries where Jews are absorbed in sinful self-satisfaction. The task of these young men would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews, and plague Jews with anti-Semitic slogans such as ‘Bloody Jew’, ‘Jews go to Palestine’ and similar intimacies. I can vouch that the results in terms of a considerable immigration to Israel from these countries would be ten thousand times larger than the results brought by thousands of emissaries who have been preaching for decades to deaf ears.’ [Uri Harari, cited in Alfred Lillienthall, The Other Side of the Coin, Devin-Adair, New York, p. 47.]

          • Michael Abramov

            There is much reference to the Black Panthers and their sources so, I am already very dubious as to the accuracy of this source, but thanks for the reference. You might recall that although the intentions of the Black Panthers were the betterment of the blacks of the USA, in the final outcome many of their leaders ended up being on the run for various criminal activities, so why should I believe them. The only black activists I had time for were Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. Both assassinated.

            My uncle was in Iraq in the 1940s and 1950s on business. In 1941 100 + Jews were murdered in Iraq because of the ’emerging Jewish state’. This was called the Farhud. I have a friend whose family came from Basra. They owned the largest chain of coffee shops in the city. When they left in 1951, EVERYTHING was confiscated from them and they arrived in Israel with next to nothing.

            When there is war, there is unfairness, underhandedness and espionage and sabotage etc; I am amazed that you are so surprised at the tactics of the Israeli secret service. This is what happens in war.

          • scorpion

            ZIONIST INVOLVEMENT IN IRAQ TERRORISM

            We demand the establishment of an investigative committee to examine:
            1) If and by what means negotiations were carried out in 1950 between Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri as-Said, and if Ben-Gurion informed as-Said that he is authorized to take possession of the property and assets of Iraqi Jewry if he agreed to send them to Israel;

            2) who ordered the bombing of the Masouda Shem-Tov synagogue in Baghdad, and if the Israeli Mossad and/or its operatives were involved. If it is determined that Ben-Gurion did, in fact, carry out negotiations over the fate of Iraqi Jewish property and assets in 1950, and directed the Mossad to bomb the community’s synagogue in order to hasten our flight from Iraq, we will file a suit in an international court demanding half of the sum total of compensation for our refugee status from the Iraqi government and half from the Israeli government.

            Zionist role in flight of Jews from Iraq
            The role of Israel and Zionist undercover agents in helping precipitate the departure of Jews from Iraq has long been suspected.

            Naiem Giladi, an Iraqi Jew who joined the Zionist underground as a young man in Iraq and later came to regret his role in fostering the departure of some 125,000 Jews from Iraq, wrote that, “Zionist propagandists still maintain that the bombs in Iraq were set off by anti-Jewish Iraqis who wanted Jews out of their country.” But “the terrible truth,” Giladi said, “is that the grenades that killed and maimed Iraqi Jews and damaged their property were thrown by Zionist Jews.”

            Giladi, who was born Naeim Khalaschi, gave his account in an article published by Americans for Middle East Understanding in 1998 which summarizes his book, Ben Gurion’s Scandals: How the Haganah and the Mossad eliminated Jews.

            After being sentenced to death in Iraq for his Zionist activities, Giladi fled to Israel. Because his native language was Arabic, Giladi was assigned to assist the Israeli military occupation authorities expel Palestinians from their homes in al-Majdal (“Ashkelon”) by pressuring them to sign documents stating they were leaving to Gaza willingly:

          • A.S.F.

            No, actually, he means what he says, which, unlike your drivel, is based on actual facts and events that took place in real history, not the “revisionist” kind favored by “Anti-Zionists.”

          • Steve Amos

            Oh stop insulting me it really hurts my feelings, you have no profile, you hide your activity, you constantly avoid the actual subject of this page. The only support you have is from the same other 2 zionists.
            Our number just on this page is many and our beliefs are varied, there’s Jews,(the real kind),Palestinians, and Christians just from what I have noted.
            You all use the same tactic of confusing the issue misdirection and insulting for incitement, a great advert for zionism.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – “you have no profile” and yours is fake……..
            You are incredible ……. so you base your superiority on Number of supporters……
            Well maybe go to china !!!
            You were exposed as an Ignorant throwing facts all over all the time.
            Go get some education and then come back.

          • Steve Amos

            Jack, what???!!! Wow! y’know you should just stick to racist comments, at least you can manage those!

          • A.S.F.

            Oh, so YOU get to say and decide who is a “REAL Jew?” Man, your arrogance and moral tone-deafness knows no bounds!

          • Steve Amos

            I stand by my statement on the grounds that any person that believes in an omnipotent creator of everything, would have to believe that to harm and oppress another creation of their god is tantamount to criticizing their own existence. its common sense really, not that its common on here.

          • scorpion

            You seem to want to decide in the usual mendacious way who is a Palestinian is. We have facts to prove Ashkenazis are European!

          • Steve Amos

            And that really is your best reply insult, label, lie.

          • A.S.F.

            Calling you on the character flaws you seem intent on displaying with pride, while you try to use the cover of “Anti-Zionism” to mask your obvious prejudices, is fair game–because, unlike the rhetorical nonsense you spout, they are, sadly, right there for all to see, in every post you write.

          • Steve Amos

            UHU, I don’t mask my prejudices, as I have said before, I hate racism, inhumanity, oppression, apartheid and violence but I do not hate even you, I think you are a product of a very badly broken system.
            To suggest after all the reports from IDF soldiers, from white papers, from reporters and video, that there should not be a debate on Israel as an apartheid state is ridiculous.

          • Steve Amos

            Oh dear, ill take your comment into account and give it the consideration it merits.

          • Jack

            TecumsehUnfaced and Helen4yemen are admirers and supporters of the Houthi Yemenite killers in Yemen , that slaughter those days thousands of Innocent Civilians children and women.
            It’s a waste of time to debate with them.

            They admire those killers and are proud of it, but are hypocrites to play as Humanitarians caring for the Palestinian Muslim, while they support Muslim killing other Muslims, once this issue is brought up, they disappear.

          • Mike Abramov

            Jack – thanks for that. I gave up debating with her long ago. I will bear this in mind

          • scorpion

            With Israeli weapons and massacres carried out by your Saudi Wahhabi allies.

          • A.S.F.

            It is not Helen’s intellect I call into question. It is her bigotry which may be part and parcel of a Mental health disorder. Unfortunately, you get enough people together with similarly disordered thinking and they can create a lot of mayhem. If their intentions are malignant enough, they can dump a lot of destructive energy into the world (especially when they aim it at vulnerable scapegoats), along with the manure they sling.

          • Mike Abramov

            Sir – I have to agree. This is why I do not get in to a rage. I realise there are mental issues with some of the people on this site.

          • scorpion

            How good of you to acknowledge the mental health issues of Zionists!

            Even your President agrees with you!

          • Michael Abramov

            Phew! You really are a moron. When you run out of things to say, you come up with BS.

          • scorpion

            Really, just shows you how much you know, zero! You found out who Theodore Herzl is yet? Plenty of information about radiation experiments and stolen Yemeni children, but it requires an operational brain to look at things that prove the crap you spout is rubbish!

          • scorpion

            On August 14, at 9 PM, Israeli television station, Channel Ten, broke all convention and exposed the ugliest secret of Israel’s Labor Zionist founders; the deliberate mass radiation poisoning of nearly all Sephardi youths.

            The expose began with the presentation of a documentary film called, 100,000 Radiations, and concluded with a panel discussion moderated by TV host Dan Margalit, surprising because he is infamous for toeing the establishment line.

          • Michael Abramov

            OK – I will check this out. May I have the date and the title of the programme.

          • scorpion

            Jerusalem Post Israel News Politics And Diplomacy
            PRESIDENT RIVLIN: TIME TO ADMIT THAT ISRAEL IS A SICK SOCIETY THAT NEEDS TREATMENT
            BYGREER FAY CASHMAN OCTOBER 19, 2014 20:37
            Rivlin was speaking at the opening session of a conference entitled “From Hatred of the Stranger to Acceptance of the Other,” on the escalation of tensions between Jews and Arabs.

            Rivlin, Israel’s president, said “It’s time to admit honestly that Israeli society is sick.” He went on to suggest that his country’s Jewish citizens have “forgotten how to be decent human beings.”

            That would also apply to Zionists the world over, as evidenced by you!

          • Michael Abramov

            Israel is a sick society?

            There are many Israelis who feel great support for the Palestinians. However, the issue is also that this site applies 50% of it’s pages on Israel and the remainder on the ME. Why? I will tell you. It is difficult to report from Egypt, Syria and Yemen without ending up in prison.

            Being a Zionist, does not mean I do not care for the Arabs. You really do not know me.

          • scorpion

            “”Mental health disorder. “” Like your Tay Sachs or one of the other 30 unique genetic defects found in European Ashkenazis?

          • A.S.F.

            Tay Sachs is not a “Mental Health Disorder.” But your picture could probably be found gracing any one of a number of the Axis of disorders gracing the pages of the DSM, which is the Psychiatric diagnostic manual used by Psychiatrists to diagnose serious Brain, Developmental and Personality Disorders

          • scorpion

            You are right it is a genetic defect common amongst Ashkenazi Jews giving them a pre-disposition to suffering from Schizophrenia, or it could be one of the other 29 genetic defects!

          • A.S.F.

            Tay Sachs is associated with people with Ashkenazi descent the way that Sickle Cell Anemia is associated with African Americans and host of other genetic diseases are likewise associated with different races and sub-groups of human beings–including people of Middle eastern Origin, African Origin and Far Eastern origin– which includes a great number of people who happen to be Muslim. It’s pathetic, in vicious way, to bring this up as some kind of Anti-Semitic talking point. At least we can hope that scientific advances will eradicate many of the genetic vulnerabilities I am referring to…But your kind of bigotry survives the way cockroaches do.

          • scorpion

            Who said anything about auntie semitic, (YAWN), talking points, just pointing out all the inbreeding that must ahve taken place and that those genetic markers are unique to European Ashkenazis no matter how sspiritual and conncetd they feel. sounds like a form of psychosis.

          • scorpion

            At least cockroaches are more evolved than bacteria or ZIO Israelis!

          • Michael Abramov

            I cannot argue with that. It is now emerging that Helen4Yemen is associated with some vile group of extremists in Yemen where currently even being a journalists can lead to a lengthy prison sentence. However, I tried to dump her, but she still comes back to me.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Emerging from where? You have sunk so low that the only you can defend Ashkenazi’s theft of Palestine is defamation of character of the commentator? What vile extremists? What is your source?

            Flagged!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Wow! You are about the vilest smear baby I’ve ever seen.

            The only thing to do with smear babies like you is to apply the ZioNazi Principle: if you want to know the truth, ask a ZioNazi, then believe the opposite.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “I do not communicate with her anymore.”

            Is it not true that I dumped you and not vice versa?

            Note: Be careful before you start your new series of lies since I have the communications saved when I told you bye.

            Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did the Indians, the Kenyans, the Ugandans, the Yemenis, the Egyptians … get rid of the British because of “tribal” reasons or because they were foreign predatory colonial settlers? Isn’t the Ashkenazi just as EUROPEAN and just as predatory colonial settler as the British?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is this link that proves that the Ashkenazi can only trace his ancestry to Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Austria … at a stunning rate of 99% and 0% to the Middle East of dubious source?

            https://www.ancestry*com/dna/ethnicity/E59C79DB-8EFC-4051-9878-5E78B6DFE86D/share/e3f7a96f-3e0f-4aa2-8b42-6a50874ce6f8/9cc5e907-5c6c-4572-95f2-1992625918dc

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          • Michael Abramov

            Helen – thank you for that. You have confirmed that most ‘European’ Jews are 95% Jewish DNA and 5% mostly Greek and Italian. I am sure you are aware that the Roman Empire lasted for nearly 800 years and inter-marriage with Romans (Italians) was not frowned upon then. The ‘lingua-franka’ was Greek which is why much of the Dead Sea Scrolls were written in Greek as well as Hebrew.

            May I refer you to The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbons to help you put in to perspective the diaspora that resulted from the end of the Roman Empire.

            I get the impression that you do not read the right sorts of books.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Do not waste your time, she does not have the intellect to debate.”

            We call that “sour grapes”. Did I dump you or you dumped me? Be careful, I have the communications we had when I told you bye.

          • Michael Abramov

            I dumped you, but I have missed your tirade of BS until you started to reply to me again.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why are you commenting using two different accounts?

          • Michael Abramov

            Long story and not relevant

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            A Silly Fraud up-voted you.

          • Michael Abramov

            Go away and come back to me when you have studied history properly

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Aw, look it’s back helplessly yammering again.

          • scorpion

            HaHaHa, says the twerp who didn’t know who Theodore Hertzl was, I had to post a quote citing the paragraph and page for you! You should listen to your own advise, as no one else will!

          • peepsqueek

            Thank you!

          • Helen4Yemen

            If the Palestinians are not the natives of Palestine, who is?

            a) Ashkenazi Jews of Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Hungary
            b) African Jews from Ethiopia, Ugandan, Nigeria, Zimbabwe
            c) Arab Jews from Yemen, Morocco, Egypt …. and so on
            d) South American Jews
            e) Asian Jews from India, Japan, China

            WTF is your choice?

          • scorpion

            Tut Tut Tut how vicious and pathetic, I am not trying to insult you, you would probably need someone to explain it to you , but it is the truth!!

          • Freespirit

            Proof please – You said to Helen4Yemen “your obsessive Anti-Semitism”

            My understanding is she IS a Semite and she also supports Palestinians WHO ARE the original SEMITES

            Like me she doesn’t support those ASHKENAZIM Jews who believe they have a RIGHT to Palestine………which they do not.

            WE both support true SEMITIC Jews

          • A.S.F.

            The only people who make it a (disgusting) habit to deny what the meaning of Anti-Semitism is as regards the Jewish people ARE Anti-Semites…And it doesn’t matter whether you happen to be of Arab or Muslim descent or not. An Anti-Semite is an Anti-Semite. Your “pick or choose” approach as to who YOU deign to be a “legitimate” Jew as regards the one sole majority Jewish nation on the entire globe (which happens, coincidentally, to be the only one you obsessive over to such a negative degree) is part and parcel of your Anti-Semitism.

          • Freespirit

            I cannot be an ANTI-SEMITE against those who are not Semites-PERIOD

            Ashkenazim Jews are NOT Semites, BUT Palestinians are

          • scorpion

            ZZZZZZZZZ Auntie semitism YAWN!!

        • Helen4Yemen

          Why have you not answered? Simply because the chances of a Mr. Shlomo having ancestry to Palestine is slim to none. You the European predators have turned out to be the worst of any of the prior European predators that arrived before you. Tell me what it is the Arabs owe the Shlomo’s, the Bloomberg’s and Goldberg’s of Europe and Brooklyn now LEECHING off Arab land?

        • peepsqueek

          Israelis are a collective group of Jews that have maintained a Jewish heritage, language of the Torah, traditions, rituals, that tie them to a small geographical area, which they have built a tiny but viable nation.

          “What did the natives look like?” The looked like Hebrews, Persians, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Copts, Kurds, Babylonians and other non-Arabs, all with their own languages.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, ‘Israelies‘ are a psychopathic cult of thugs that steal everything from everybody, including their way of thinking from Hitler’s Nazis.

            Child-killing sociopaths of Israel

            By Kevin Barrett on August 1, 2014

            What is wrong with Israelis?

            Every time Israel embarks on a new round of wholesale slaughter in Gaza, polls show that more than 90% of Israelis support the butchery.

            For Israelis, mass-murdering children is a spectator sport. When the IDF starts dropping cluster bombs, white phosphorous, DIME munitions and other horrendous weapons on Gaza, crowds of Israelis pack the hilltops to barbecue meat, drink alcohol and cheer as they watch Palestinian children being blown to bits.

            Every day in Israel’s major cities, mobs of Israelis gather to hunt down and brutalize Arab children and teenagers. Police stand by as they beat their victims into unconsciousness. According to Israeli blogger Elizabeth Tsurkov, the mobs’ favorite chant is: “Tomorrow there’s no school in Gaza, they don’t have any children left.”

            Israelis proudly tweet their desire to murder children: “Kill Arab children so there won’t be a next generation,” “Stinking Arabs may you die, amen,” and “Arabs may you be paralyzed and die with great suffering” are some representative tweets exposed by Israeli journalist David Sheen.

            ->http://www.veteranstoday.COM/2014/08/01/sociopaths/

          • Helen4Yemen

            They must have looked like Iraqis since what they call “Israelite” were NOT from Palestine but from Ur in Iraq, right?

            There is no “Jewish lanuaage” except for Yiddish.
            There is no “Jewish heritage” except for religious ritual since the Yemeni Jews share no customs or culture with the German Jew.

            Therefore, they did not look vividly European as the Ashkenazi does?

          • peepsqueek

            “They must have looked like Iraqis”???????? You mean Kurds, Assyrians, Hebrews, Armenians, Azides, and others before the Arab invasions.

          • Helen4Yemen

            The “Israelite” originated in Ur which is in present day Iraq and not in “Israel” as that land was known as Canaan, right?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Helen! That’s way too hard for a lobotomized ZioNazi to handle. It’s going to suffer a burst aneurysm.

          • peepsqueek

            You might want to look at the language of the Torah and the Ten Commandments, and Hebrew inscriptions of the Jewish gravestones in the so-called holy land. Hebrew on the Jewish Calendar, etc. What is the relevance to this article?

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Indonesian, Iranian, Nigerian, Somali … Muslims use Arabic to recite the Koran. Does it mean they are Arabic spears? At least Arabic is a current and existing language vs. Hebrew that was never spoken as a language for more than a millennium. It was dug up from the grave and revived by Ashkenazi Jewry when he colonized Palestine.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I think that learning ‘Hebrew’ was part of the cult initiation. Anybody will willing to spend the time learning such a guttural, inelegant language was a goner.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are right! That language does not go with a European people … in fact they look funny when you hear them speak Hebrew … there seems to be a missmatch between the way they look – European – and the language they speak – Middle Eastern. They look odd when they speak it. And this is the first ever that a people borrowed a language as the national language instead of the language growing naturally on its own. You might say it is like many African countries adopted English as a unifying and common language since they spoke many tribal languages. The Ashkenaz were better off had they adopted English instead of Hebrew, but Hebrew was part and parcel of the deception to pass as the descendants of the descendants of of Ur from Iraq. I wonder why not call them Urites instead of “Israelites”?

          • peepsqueek

            Even the Eastern European Jews read and wrote Yiddish in Hebrew letters. How did that happen? The original Forward, the Jewish Press in the US was written in Hebrew letters. How did that happen if their was no affiliation to their Hebrew past? Again, how is this relevant to the article?

          • Helen4Yemen

            How did the Ashkenzi communicate with the Yemeni Jews after they arrived in Palestine as cheap slave labor for the white Europeans in 1948? Did they communicate in Hebrew or they used sign language?

          • Helen4Yemen

            WERE THE ISRAELITE GENETICALLY IRAQI SINCE THEIR ANCESTRAL ORIGIN IS UR – IN IRAQ?

          • peepsqueek

            The Kurdish Jews of Iraq have had to move to Israel for their own protection. Is that a problem for you?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Let’s start from the beginning:

            A guy called “Terah” lived in a place called Ur in Chaldea, by the Euphrates River in present day Iraq.

            He had 3 sons, Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

            Haran died in Ur but had 3 children named
            Lot, Iscah and Milcah.

            Terah moved from his hometown of Ur to Haran on the border of Turkey and Syria (600 miles away) and took with him his wife Sara and his grandson Lot.

            God came to speak to Abraham in Haran and told him there was a land called Canaan (400 miles away from Haran) and to go there and to take that place as his own for eternity. God tells Abraham to show no mercy to those people of Canaan 400 miles away.

            Nahor stayed behind and married his niece Milcah and they had many children among them Bethuel.

            Bethuel had a son named Laban and a daughter named Rebecca.

            Sarah and Abram had 1 son named Isaac.

            Isaac married Rebecca and had two sons Jacob and Essau.

            Jacob married two of Laban’s daughters (his cousins) Leah and Rachel and their servants Zilpah and Bilhah and had a total of 12 sons and 1 daughter.

            …..
            Did I get it right?

          • scorpion

            Why have the Hagana, Irgun and Stern Gang come back to terrorise them into emigrating to occupied Palestine?

          • Helen4Yemen

            You answered partially? Why is that? Let’s try again:

            If Palestinians are “Trans-Jordanians”, then please tell me:

            a) who the natives are?

            b) what did they look like? (partially answered)

            c) what language did they speak?

            d) what kind of food did they cook?

            e) what religion did they practice?

            f) how did they dress?

            g) where are they now?

            h) how many of them are there now?

            i) what are they called?

          • peepsqueek

            “You answered partially? Why is that?” — Because they were the most relevant. What did they cook, what did they wear, what are they called, is not a matter of debate for this article. You think that you can wear out the people that you do not agree with by asking a multitude of questions, which have been answered for your benefit, many times over.

          • Helen4Yemen

            If the natives of Palestine are not the Palestinians, then tell me who the natives of that land are?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are the Ashkenazi:

            -‘Middle Eastern looking”
            -“Mediterranean-looking”
            -“Italian-looking”
            – “Olive skin”
            – “swarthy”

            Or are they just your plain vanilla lily-white Europeans?

            How many on the picture on the link below look “ME-Mediterranean-Italian”?

            Please copy the link of any Italian-looking Ashkenazi, I would be very interested to know.

            https://worldpeace365*wordpress*com/2017/03/30/are-european-jews-white-2/

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          • peepsqueek

            Are white Arabs really Europeans? Are black Arabs really Africans?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, I rest my case! Therefore, you need to stop this nonsense when you say the Ashkenazi look:

            Swarthy, ME, Mediterranean, Italian, olive.

            They look as plain vanilla white as the rest of the Europeans.
            The fact that you try to divert the question tells me you were caught in a horrible lie.

            White Arabs are not the majority, are they? They do not claim to be European, do they?

            I simply asked you how many on the picture have even a tiny resemblance to the people of the ME? My answer is ZERO -NONE OF THEM …unless you can tell me which ones do.

          • peepsqueek

            Lets line everyone up by color! Great Helen, you will be tossing out Kurds, Assyrians, and white Berbers from Arab Countries.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Your choices are two:
            a) admit that the claim by the Ashkenazi not be be white but Middle Eastern, Italian, Mediterranean, olive-skinned, swarthy was just wishful thinking – or
            b) look at the pictures on the link below and tell me which Ashkenazi looks Middle Eastern to you (if any)?

            https://worldpeace365*wordpress*com/2017/03/30/are-european-jews-white-2/

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          • peepsqueek

            I looked at the pictures and they don’t look much different than Assyrians who have been in that geographical area much longer than Arabs. Pull up their pictures and tell me that I am wrong. I understand what you are saying but it does not reverse the course of human history.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are the Ashkenazi genetic cousins of Palestinians?
            A picture is worth a thousand words, is it not?

            https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/are_the_ashkenazi_the_genetic_cousins_of_palestinians/

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          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi Europeans look:
            a) Italian
            b) Middle Eastern
            c) Mediterranean
            d) olive
            e) swarthy
            f) they look like plain white Europeans

            https://wordpress*com/post/worldpeace365.wordpress*com/6361

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          • peepsqueek

            Some look mediterranean and some, very few, look like they could be Scandinavian. Many have a Jewfro hair type and some have very straight hair. Some have olive skin, others very light skin. That is not the standard for statehood.

            Take a look at the pictures of Amin al-Husseini, of the wealthy landing owning family around Palestine, who gave his support to Hitler to kill Jews, which sounds crazy today because Hitler was murdering Jews because he claimed they were an inferior semitic race. Your DNA argument does not explain Amin al-Husseini in any aspect.

          • Helen4Yemen

            None of the Ashkenazi n the pictures on the link below look Middle Eastern except for one. Do you know which one? Right click on the image and copy its address and send it back to me here ..

            https://worldpeace365*wordpress*com/2017/03/30/are-european-jews-white-2/

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          • Helen4Yemen

            But they are all identical in how they score their DNA! They all receive a stunning 99.9% European ancestry (Poland, Lithuania …) with the remaining 0.1% usually East Asia or Africa but never the Middle East.

          • peepsqueek

            How many people were involved in your study?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you saying that these DNA reports are not genuine?

            Tony Kushner DNA
            97.5% Ashkenazi
            0.1% Finnish
            0.1% Scandanvian
            2.2% Broadly European
            0.1% East Asian
            99.9% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

            Rabbi Hammerman DNA
            97.2% Ashkenazi
            0.8% East European
            0.2% Southern European
            1.7% Broadly European
            0.1% Native American
            99.9% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

            Joseph Cohen DNA
            96.2% Ashkenazi
            0.4% Eastern European
            0.1% N. European
            0.1% SouthernEuropean
            3.0% Broady European
            0.1% East Asian
            0.1% Unassigned
            99.8% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

            Alan Dershowitz DNA
            98. 5% Ashkenazi
            0.4% Southern European
            0.1% Balkan
            0.9% Broadly European
            0.1% East Asian
            99.9% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

          • peepsqueek

            Which study and how many Jews were involved in your study?? Because you are sure attempting to make a point to separate northern white Jews from Mediterranean Jews for a specific ambition of yours.

          • Helen4Yemen

            This is the actual DNA report for an Ashkenazi Jew. Please study is carefully. On average, the Ashkenazi score 96% in what they call “European Jewish” DNA which applies only to European Jewry. It traces the ancestry of the Ashkenazi to Poland, Lithuania, Austria and so on. The person has no trace of Middle Eastern DNA – which is very typical for the Ashkenazi. The Irish similarly score 95% in Irish-DNA. There is no room for you to wiggle out. This is DNA science and DNA science found not even a tiny trace of Middle East ancestry in the Ashkenazi.

            Are you saying that the Yemeni Jew too will score 99% European DNA and 0% Middle East DNA like the Ashkenazi?

            https://www.ancestry*com/dna/ethnicity/E59C79DB-8EFC-4051-9878-5E78B6DFE86D/share/e3f7a96f-3e0f-4aa2-8b42-6a50874ce6f8/9cc5e907-5c6c-4572-95f2-1992625918dc

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          • peepsqueek

            Do you have any idea how may conflicting genetic studies have been done? A study led by Harry Ostrer published on June 11, 2010, found close links between Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews, and found them to be genetically distinct from non-Jews. In the study, DNA from the blood of 237 Jews and about 2,800 non-Jews was analyzed, and it was determined how closely related they were through IBD. Individuals within the Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi groups shared high levels of IDB, roughly equivalent to that of fourth or fifth cousins. All three groups shared many genetic features, suggesting a common origin dating back more than 2,000 years. The study did find that all three Jewish groups did show various signs of admixture with non Jews, with the genetic profiles of Ashkenazi Jews indicating between 30% and 60% admixture with Europeans, although they clustered more closely with Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews

          • Helen4Yemen

            You keep hiding behind worthless and made up fake “studies”. Do you remember that you admitted to me that you could not find any Ashkenazi DNA that has even 1% Middle Eastern ancestry? Why can’t you simply show me a DNA result of an Ashkenazi that has even a tiny drop of ME ancestry. There are none! Otherwise, post one.

          • peepsqueek

            In all your confusion, you have me mixed up with someone else. Attempt to stay with one article at a time without dragging the same arguments that take us nowhere close to solving this problem of you wanting to see the banner of Islam fly over every inch of the land, which is the bottom line if you can get Israel to let its guard down.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Who are “Mediterranean Jews”? I thought Abraham and his clan came from Ur, in Iraq, quite a distant from the Mediterranean. Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            We have gone through this before where I asked you to post just one DNA result of any Ashkenazi that has scored even 1% Middle East DNA and you did admit in the past that you were unable to find out. That was a long time ago. Have you found one Ashkenazi DNA that has even 1% ME score during all those months that passed? Please post it and let’s see … or else just admit you did not find one. What is your answer?

          • Helen4Yemen

            I have looked at over 100 Ashkenazi DNA results.
            How many of them ME DNA? Zero, none of them did?

            How many of them had European DNA? All of them at a stunning rate of 99% and the other 1% is usually East Asia.

            You can prove me wrong by posting just one DNA result for any Ashkenazi that has even a tiny trace of ME ancestry. There are none- you know there are none – or else you would have posted one by now. Got one? Post it and let’s see…

          • peepsqueek

            You looked at 100 out of millions and you want to debate the issue.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you saying the Kurds, Assyrians, and white Berbers look white or they look “Italian”? The Ashkenazi says he does not look white but
            Middle Eastern.

          • peepsqueek

            Italians run the whole range of skin color, eye color, hair color, hair type, bone structures, etc. They are as mixed as the rest of the Mediterranean peoples.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Then please explain what the Ashkenazi mean when they say they look Italian or they look swarthy or they look Mediterranean. You see, they never say they look Scandinavian or German or French or Russian … only Italian or swarthy. Explain how totally white Europeans can attempt to distinguish themselves from the rest of white Europeans? Are the Ashkenazi distinguishable from white Europeans?

          • Helen4Yemen

            According to Ancestry dot com, 41% of Italians have Middle Eastern DNA and at very high rates, as high as 20%. And 47% have what they call “Caucasus” which is referring to Iran, Turkey, Azerbaijan …That is surprising because they never claim to have ME ancestry – and yet the Ashkenazi who does came out empty handed of any ME DNA zero! What do you make of that?

          • peepsqueek

            That is because the people of the Italic Peninsula mixed with Jews on there way into Europe. Many Italians have names that trace them back to Jewish ancestry, not Arab names at all.

            Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians, Samaritans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have an ancient indigenous common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples.—Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, Alberto Piazza, The History and Geography of Human Genes. – You might want to read some other studies besides the one that you want to believe.

            And again, you do not get to include or exclude people building a nation based on genetic testing, unless you are a racist.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Have you found any “swarthy” or “olive” or “Mediterranean” or “Middle Eastern” or “Italian” looking Ashkenazi Jews from the photo album of 250 Ashkenazi on this link? I found only one … and I asked you to tell me if you knew which one? Are there any ‘darkie” looking among these
            lily-white Ashkenazi?

            https://worldpeace365*wordpress*com/2017/03/30/are-european-jews-white-2/

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          • peepsqueek

            Nice dodge Helen!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, you do confirm that none of the 250 Ashkenazi on this link look Middle Eastern except for one? Or else show me the “swarthy” looking Ashkenazi? Give me examples of “Italian-looking” Ashkenazi … just mention a few names …

          • peepsqueek

            Line them all up by color!

        • Eric11210

          We Jews are the natives Madame Jihad.

          • scorpion

            So it was You that made the desert bloom then? Or is that yet another lie?

          • Eric11210

            I think you meant that comment for Madame Jihad, aka Helen4Yemen.

          • scorpion

            How arrogant, can’t think for yourself beyond being a parrot.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Are you telling me the Shlomo’s and the Goldberg’s of Europe arrived to play “Musical chairs”? Weird, is it not that the Shlomo’s arrived when the Smith’s were returning?

        • A.S.F.

          All mankind has played “musical chairs”, since the beginning of time. It is YOU who try to use DNA, etc. to paint a bulls-eye on the backs of one single of group of humans beings–in service to your own apartheid ambitions, your internalized (and apparently inexhaustible) hate and your madness.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Couldn’t the Ashkenazi of Lithuania played “musical chairs” with the Ashkenazi of Russia? Why Palestine of all places?

            Abraham, Isaac, Jacob have ZERO ancestry to Palestine, do they? Their ancestral land was Ur in present day Iraq, was it not? Palestine is to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob what America is to the Europeans who conquered it. YES OR NO?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha! Now that ‘coming back’ is no more useful after DNA confirmed Ashkenazi = 0 % Middle East ancestry, now you have come up with “musical chairs”? Haha, I am laughing …

          • A.S.F.

            Helen, you DO realize that your obsession with Jewish “DNA” matches that of Hitler, right? Of course, I make room for the possibility that you are so beset with mental health issues that you are incapable of perceiving anything other than your own distorted reality.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Pay attention! There is no “Jewish DNA” as there is not Hindu or Muslim or Christian DNA. The DNA of the Yemeni Jew = Yemeni, that of the Ashkenazi Jew = European, that of the African Jews = African, that of Chinese Jews = Chinese/

            YES OR NO?

          • scorpion

            Ohh nasty person!

          • scorpion

            Triggered much?

      • Helen4Yemen

        ” Both the Israelis and the Palestinians are going to have to learn to to make room for each other”

        __________
        Just imagine that I come bust throw your door and then tell you:

        “we are going to have to learn to to make room for each other”.

        Haha! Sounds hilarious! Why does Mr. Shlomo want to stick around? Afraid of Hitler? What reasons do the Zionist LEECHES now have for lingering on stolen land?

        • Jack

          “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
          PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

          “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
          Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
          against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
          today there is no difference between Jordanians,
          Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
          tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
          a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
          that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
          people’ to oppose Zionism.

          “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
          with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
          While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
          Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
          reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
          a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” !!!

          • Freespirit

            Please provide PROOF via LINKS to SOURCES because I can prove the opposite to what you say about Palestine not existing., IF “Middle East Monitor” will allow my proof

            Israel DOESN’T exist, by NATURAL LAW,in actuality, except by THEFT and MURDER !

          • Freespirit

            You know as well as MOST of us here, know that ISRAEL does NOT exist, except in name only and by THEFT and MURDER

            YOu only have to do a SEARCH to know that truth

      • Helen4Yemen

        Why have you not answered? Simply because the chances of a Mr. Shlomo having ancestry to Palestine is slim to none. You the European predators have turned out to be the worst of any of the prior European predators that arrived before you. Tell me what it is the Arabs owe the Shlomo’s, the Bloomberg’s and Goldberg’s of Europe and Brooklyn now LEECHING off Arab land?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Were the “niece and cousin f-ing” Abraham-Isaac-Jacob

        from Palestine or from Ur, Iraq? They did F their nieces

        and cousins, did they not and were interbreeding?

      • Helen4Yemen

        5 days ago, you made your stupid statement above and 5 days ago, I asked you if not the Palestinians who then are the natives of Palestine, right? You ran away and kept running away. Do you want to tell me who the NATIVES OF PALESTINE ARE?

        • A.S.F.

          Not today’s “Palestinians”. The “Trans-Jordanians” of 1948 were originally from Jordan. The British were in total control of the area in question and had been for quite some time before 1948. There was no sovereign state that the “Trans-Jordanians” (who were not even referred to as “Palestinians” until the mid-1960’s, courtesy of Yassar Arafat) governed at the time that revisionist history-pushers like you like to claim the “Palestinians” had their beloved “homeland” stolen out from under them. In fact, many of the people you like to claim were “kicked out if their homes by force” actually fled their homes at the behest of their beloved brethren in the Arab League. The reason that there no state called “Palestine” at present is because the Palestinians have consistently refused to consider refuse any and all of the many “two-state” options that have been put in front of them. They rejected the UN’s offer of independent statehood in 1948 and have been stone-walling and violently rejecting all such offers ever since. They do this while remaining on the global dole for a longer period of time than any other group of people in history, with less to show for it than just about any other group of people in history. Despite controlling of two territories, their governments remain incredibly corrupt and inept. The Palestinians seem unable to govern their own way out of a paper bag and unwilling to accept any solution to the dilemma other than to be magically given their own totally Jew-free apartheid state and for Israel to be totally gone, gone, GONE. That proposition is not acceptable–not in any way, shape or form. Israel knows full well what the Palestinians mean when they shout “From the river to the Sea, all of Palestine will be free!” And so does everybody else with any common sense and no axe to grind against Jews, in general. Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve the chance to live in peace, side by side. To answer your question: Jews and Muslims have always had a presence in the area in question, throughout history. Your desire to assert total Muslim dominance, cloaked in your erratic rationalizations of why that is right and just, doesn’t make it right and just. It just makes you sound like a raging bigot.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am going to ask you again and you are going to run away again without answering, are you? Here is the question:

            If Palestinians are not the natives, then please tell me:

            a) who the natives are?
            b) what did they look like?
            c) what language did they speak?
            d) what kind of food did they cook?
            e) what religion did they practice?
            f) how did they dress?
            g) where are they now?
            h) how many of them are there now?
            i) what are they called?

          • A.S.F.

            You asked and I answered. Just because the answer wasn’t to your liking doesn’t mean that the answer was not given. It simply was not given to your insanely bigoted satisfaction.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1. |for Israel to be totally gone, gone, GONE.|Were the French totally gone from Algeria and the British from Kenya? Why do you think the Ashkenazi not another European colonial settler?

            2. |shout “From the river to the Sea, all of Palestine will be free!”|Did the Kenyans retrieve back all of Kenya or parts of Kenya from the British? Why is it that you seem to ignore the fact that the Ashkenazi is 100% alien to the region – just like the British were in Kenya. Do you not get it?

            3. |Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve the chance to live in peace, side by side.|”Israelis” are Lithuanians, Russians, Hungarians, Americans. A rose by any other name is a rose, and these are predatory leeches – leeching off Arab land.

            4. |To answer your question: Jews and Muslims have always had a presence in the area in question, throughout history.|But not the Ashkenazi. His white European feet never touched that soil until the stampede begun in the 1882 to colonize the land.

    • Eric11210

      Oh Madame Jihad. You and your tired and desperate lies. So boring.

      • scorpion

        AMEN!!

      • Freespirit

        She has 8 UPVOTES and you, 3, as of the date of this comment

        • Eric11210

          So this means something? This website is a hate blog. Your kind love to hate on the joos. No surprise there.

          • Freespirit

            What “kind” am I?

            Does this Jew hate Jews: .youtube.com/watch?v=fGTp1Q162Gw OR why have 109 lands banned and/or removed those Ahkenazim. Do they all hate Jews too

            I can provide links to MANY Jews who also “hate” Jews.( by your standards)

  • Helen4Yemen

    Shocking video must watch, a Palestinian is
    hit in the head by a European Jew. Scary!
    https://youtu*be/p4FiizZirN4
    (Please replace * with dot)

    • Jack

      Shocking video must watch, Houthi killers massacre in Taiz
      Shocking…… but not for Helen4yemen who admires and supports those Houthi Killers.
      That slaughter today thousands of Innocent Yemenite Civilians, children and Women

      https://youtube*com/watch?v=sMCBIsgsbKA

      (Please replace * with dot)

  • Steve Amos

    No one with internet access has any opinion other than that israel is an apartheid state, the evidence is so utterly compelling.
    The formation under the Balfour declaration was for ‘a home for the jews’ not a Jewish state, furthermore it was only to be with the agreement and cooperation of the surrounding Arabic populations.
    Yeah……that’s where ethnic cleansing began.
    While many have some affinity toward israel, every atrocity, every spit in the face of international law, erodes its legitimacy. I ask many people and find sympathy with israel to be more faint every day.

    • A.S.F.

      I obviously have internet access and I emphatically do NOT share the misguided opinion that Israel is an apartheid state. So, there goes your ridiculous argument right there. Sweeping generalizations and intellectually tortured cherry-picked distortions that start from the foundation of an even more ridiculous supposition is not going to help your viewpoint land anywhere except the trashcan from whence it originated.

      • Steve Amos

        I don’t believe you because you don’t believe you, if you did you would argue against the factual report with a coherent argument.
        israel is an apartheid state, fact, you can read the report for yourself.

        • A.S.F.

          Richard Falk calling Israel an Apartheid state doesn’t make Israel an Apartheid state. Duh.

          • Steve Amos

            But all of the evidence in the report prove beyond any doubt that israel is an apartheid state.

          • A.S.F.

            That must be why it was canned.

        • Jack

          Steve Amos – Fact, falk is no one to consider or take attention to !!!

          • Steve Amos

            Oh right, because you say so, whatever.
            Israel is an apartheid state, its completely clear even without the report, but the report clarifies it.

    • Jack

      “No one with internet access has any opinion other than that israel is an apartheid state, the evidence is so utterly compelling.”
      This is the most stupid announcement I heard for a long time.
      You must be sure that your Internet ACCESS has magical influence on others and that your Internet ACCESS has built in Evidence.
      You should apply for a Prof. degree in stupidity in richard falk & atzmon faculty of Jew Hate.

      • Steve Amos

        Hmm, as you can clearly see, the voice of apartheid is increasingly marginalised. israel is becoming a pariah state just as South Africa did, being ruled by sabras and failed warriors has taken its toll on sanity. It’s clear to the world that the bad smell in the ME is coming from the occupying force.

        • Jack

          Steve Amos – “as you can clearly see” I see that your magnificent “Internet ACCESS” starts speaking for me…….. anything else your “Internet ACCESS” tell you that convince you like – “it’s clear to the world, that you are the greatest Idiot.”
          When did you take your medicine last ?

          • Steve Amos

            Ahh the faceless senseless and aggressive face that protects the apartheid state, you make a good point when you say….. nope you don’t actually make any points, but hey, your aggressive so maybe I’ll be scared….. nope. If I was paying you to represent my regime of oppression I’d want my money back for making my supporters look stupid.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – I am not aggressive at all, I just find people like you that are sure that their “Internet ACCESS” is the world truth stupid, nothing more.
            next time be more humble and say “I think” and not “No one with internet access” and “the evidence is so utterly compelling.”
            just makes you look infantile and stupid.

          • Steve Amos

            Ok, demonstrate your point against Falk by describing how any single point in his report on israel as an apartheid state is wrong. There are four main points that define apartheid;
            A The political geography
            B Israel as a racist state
            C Apartheid through fragmentation
            D Counter arguments
            Please, demonstrate your mental and moral superiority by actually taking on the substance of the report.
            You won’t, for the same reason your colleagues don’t want any debate-
            Because the report is based upon fact that given enough publicity will destroy any support that remains for israel.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – falk is no one to consider or take attention to, he has minimal supporters who most of them are Jew Haters like yourself, fact – his promotion tour was canceled.
            Again with your delusion facts, that have ears from Jew Haters and no one else.
            Israel existence is a fact, Jew Haters like falk try again and again their pathetic aims…… not for a long time.
            Enjoy reading it again and again, as long as it satisfy your Jew hate pleasure.

          • Steve Amos

            Wow, great argument there sport, the report is wrong because you all hate Jews, give that guy a PHD, brilliantly composed.
            I take it you are unable to challenge any of the substance of the report, that’s the usual time when the everyone hates us card is played. Good luck with that!

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – falk is no one to consider or take attention to, same as I don’t pay attention to david irving books, that admirers of falk are promoting.
            Your intention to push your drivel “because you all hate Jews” is another of your delusion thinking.
            falk is no one to take attention to !

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – thanks to the “Internet ACCESS” and reading some of your comments, your nick name is maybe steve.
            but you are a Shia Muslim.

          • Steve Amos

            That picture next to my name, that’s me, good jump eh? Your picture is notably absent. I am of course not a Muslim of any kind, either way I do not consider being called one insulting, I consider people of any true faith to be, bye and large, good people though I do not posses any faith myself.
            Stop squashing the debate, if israel had true conviction it would welcome academic debate, not lobby at great expense to prevent it, if you had any evidence against Mr Faulk, you would say so, plainly you don’t so stop wasting everyone’s time, perhaps you are paid by the hour?

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – very bad picture, can be anyone on you Internet ACCESS, You are a Shia Muslim, as most Muslims you hide your identity as you are ashamed and afraid to be exposed, as your agenda is known.
            “Mr Faulk” its falk …falk is no one to consider or take attention to take it into your head !

          • Steve Amos

            I don’t care who wrote it, it’s based upon fact and has good sense unlike you.
            Recommendations: all countries, local authorities and individuals should divest from israel immediately.
            That’s just plain good advice.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – “I don’t care who wrote it” – what an intellectual, a teacher ???, next time bring up “My kamf ” as you don’t care who wrote it….. Fits your agenda better.
            poor Palestinians, if those are their supporters

          • Steve Amos

            That bikes a DT 185 from the early eighties, it’s suppose to be a 175 but the last time I fitted a rebore kit it came bored out.
            I hereby certify that I have no faith in Ala or Mohammed, god or Buddha, if you have any requests, if I’ve missed any other omnipotent celebrity please tell me, I’m a non believer, I only believe in humanity, because the vast majority are nothing like you guys.

          • Steve Amos

            How do you like my new profile picture! See if you can find either of my pictures anywhere. You can’t because I’ve never published them. As you can clearly see I’m an Anglo Saxon. If you must know that was on a school trip, I’m a schoolteacher, and I have to tell you that I only teach the truth. It’s a very difficult concept for Israelis to come to terms with.
            The NUT, my union supports the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign.

          • scorpion

            They would have to ask for a refund!

          • A.S.F.

            Nice attempt at a diversion—but a “fail.” Take your whacks like a good little naughty bigot and run home to the “command center” of your momma’s basement to plan your next attack.

          • Steve Amos

            Another intelligent considered reply, israel is an apartheid state and the report proves it time after time. You have not raised a single argument against the substance of Falk’s report.

          • A.S.F.

            The report proves nothing. Which is why it was canned.

          • MissCostello

            If the report “proves nothing” it wouldn’t NEED to be “canned”.

          • A.S.F.

            You mean the way that “Anti-Zionists” are DEMANDING that the authors of the “Balfour Declaration” apologize for it IMMEDIATELY (and threaten to sue the British government over it if they don’t???) Your response is as off-base and ridiculous as you are. The hypocrisy in what you spew out goes without saying.

          • MissCostello

            Yawn………………………………………….

          • MissCostello

            More blather……..do you have any idea what an utter fool you are making of your patently ignorant self?

          • A.S.F.

            Are you capable of anything other or more than shallow and pointless juvenile sniping?

          • Jack

            MissCostello – falk is no one to consider or take attention to, he has minimal supporters who most of them are Jew Haters like yourself

          • Jack

            MissCostello – well you and aka Steve Amos, atzmon and few other Bozo’s, will eat every sh*t this no one to consider or take attention to will spew.
            so have fun with the report…….

          • scorpion

            Do they have anything that can cure you inherited stupidity, probably not, your two brain cells work aletrnative shifts leaving one permanently lonely!

        • Neutralone

          More erroneous accusations from a poorly informed Steve Amos.

          • Steve Amos

            Yet another faceless pseudonym without any substantial argument against the facts in Falk’s report.
            Israel is an apartheid state FACT, the evidence is there for anyone to check.
            Argue against the evidence, after all it’s mostly from Israeli sources.

          • Neutralone

            I wrote:
            “More erroneous accusations from a poorly informed Steve Amos.”
            IN RESPONSE TO:

            “israel is becoming a pariah state just as South Africa did, being ruled by sabras and failed warriors has taken its toll on sanity. It’s clear to the world that the bad smell in the ME is coming from the occupying force”
            I fail to see how your reply has any connection to the above.

          • Steve Amos

            Nothing erroneous, you are clearly a Zionist, therefore you support a state where Jews have special or elevated status over other denominations, you are, by any definition racist.

          • Neutralone

            If you had any self respect you would acknowledge your ignorance and the slanderous lies which you keep posting.

            By any definition you are a racist and a “useful idiot”.

          • Helen4Yemen

            IF THE PALESTINIANS ARE NOT NATIVES TO PALESTINE,
            WHO ARE THE NATIVES?

          • Jack

            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
            PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
            against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
            today there is no difference between Jordanians,
            Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
            tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
            a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
            that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
            people’ to oppose Zionism.

            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
            While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
            Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
            reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
            a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” !!

          • A.S.F.

            And you are clearly an Anti-Zionist…And that is a kind word for what you are.

          • A.S.F.

            Why don’t you try cleaning up your own backyard for a change? There are plenty of prejudices there thriving like weeds that require your attention.

          • Steve Amos

            Err O…K, can I presume you still refuse to engage with the actual subject of this page. Don’t you see what you are actually typing, you are so transparent it’s like you aren’t even there!
            You keep on trying tho because there’s no chance you are furthering your cause.

          • A.S.F.

            He is a purposeful liar. Remaining “poorly informed” is in his self-interest.

          • MissCostello

            AGAIN. ‘Liked’ himself. What a joke!

          • A.S.F.

            In fact, I was the one who “liked” him. And you have just branded your own self a liar.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are prohibited from calling another a liar since you have been confirmed to be the most habitual liar. You lied about Palestinians not being native to Palestine, did you not? Then when I asked who the natives are, you went into hiding.

            ARE THE PALESTINIANS NATIVE TO PALESTINE?

            IF NO, THEN WHO ARE THE NATIVES OF PALESTINE?

          • Jack

            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
            PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
            against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
            today there is no difference between Jordanians,
            Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
            tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
            a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
            that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
            people’ to oppose Zionism.

            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
            While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
            Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
            reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
            a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” !

          • MissCostello

            Thanks Helen. I have a screen-shot of the page, clearly showing the idiot ‘liking’ his own comments. He’s done the same on several more; I haven’t posted the screenshot as its showing my entire screen, inc personal details.

          • MissCostello

            Are you completely nuts?? His OWN ‘LIKE’ (along with yours) is STILL there! Anyone can click on it & SEE!
            The comment I refer to (amongst several more of his own he’s ‘liked’) is “More erroneous accusations”; Only the halfwit can remove his OWN LIKE! So far, he hasn’t done so! Degree level stupidity! Screenshot?

          • A.S.F.

            You are a particularly vicious piece of work who likes to smear others while self-righteously pointing a finger of outrage at others for what she, herself, is guilty of. Perhaps the reason you ally yourself with negative “Anti-Zionist’ groups is because they are the only ones that are willing to keep company with you. Pathetic.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Vile! You are a very vindictive and very vicious person.

          • A.S.F.

            Look in the mirror and clean up the mess staring back at you, Helen. There is plenty there to keep you busy.

          • scorpion

            At least she has a refelcetion, undead ghouls like you don’T, jealous much?

    • Neutralone

      I am reproducing for you the actual text of the Balfour Declaration, so you will see that your attempted “paraphrasing” is not quite accurate:

      “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country”

      So you can see that “national home for the Jewish people” is quite a bit STRONGER than ‘a home for the jews’ . In fact, THAT is the very definition of Zionism.

      You will also NOT FIND any reference to “was only to be with the agreement and cooperation of the surrounding Arabic populations”

      Perhaps you might choose to base your future comments upon a more accurate foundation.

      • Steve Amos

        So you have just proved my point, hey thanks!

        • A.S.F.

          Not even close. What a bizarre statement!

        • Neutralone

          What is your point? Is it that you are a liar, or that you are stupid? Or could it be a bit of both?

          • Steve Amos

            My point was that the Balfour declaration supported a ‘national’ home for the Jews in Palestine in 1922 and not a state.
            This was further clarified in subsequent British white papers.

          • Neutralone

            As I ALREADY COMMENTED about the views you expressed:

            So you can see that “national home for the Jewish people” is quite a bit STRONGER than ‘a home for the jews’ . In fact, THAT is the very definition of Zionism.

            You will also NOT FIND any reference to “was only to be with the agreement and cooperation of the surrounding Arabic populations”

            One more thing: The Balfour Declaration was issued on Nov 2, 1917, NOT in 1922

            I repeat ONE MORE TIME

            Balfour=NATIONAL HOME for the Jewish people in Palestine.

            ZIONISM=NATIONAL HOME for the Jewish people in Palestine.

          • Steve Amos

            A national home in Palestine, you posted the wording yourself, the word state is not present and it was clarified in subsequent white papers that the intention was not for a Jewish state.

          • Neutralone

            So tell me-What is YOUR definition of a NATIONAL HOME for the Jewish people in Palestine? How do you see that implemented? Who would live in the NATIONAL HOME for the Jewish people and what proportion of non Jews could live there and still keep it as the NATIONAL HOME for the Jewish people?

          • JGISD

            The White Papers and the Balfour Declaration itself made it abundantly clear that the British Mandate intention for Israel was to leave the Arabs in charge of their own lands, and for the Jews to be given a safe place to reside in that Arab nation.

            Everything was fine until the Zionists determined they didn’t want to share. Jews, Muslims, and Christians had lived together peaceful in the region for centuries, until the Zionists arrived and insisted on taking things that didn’t belong to them.

          • A.S.F.

            Revisionist history…And it doesn’t even make any sense. Distortions in the service of Anti-Zionist propagandizing are still lies, no matter what kind of “word salad” bowl you try to toss them together in so you can spill the contents out on the table for the dubious consumption of others.

          • Helen4Yemen

            And is there a worse LIAR than you who had the audacity to say that the Palestinians are native to Palestine but when asked who are the natives went into hiding. Why don’t you answer it, been asking it repeatedly.

            ARE THE PALESTINIANS NATIVE TO PALESTINE?

            IF NO, THEN WHO ARE THE NATIVES OF PALESTINE?

          • Jack

            “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. IT IS JUST AN ARAB TACTIC FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!”
            PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein

            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
            Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
            against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
            today there is no difference between Jordanians,
            Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
            tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
            a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
            that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian
            people’ to oppose Zionism.

            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
            with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
            While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
            Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
            reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
            a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Actually, the Zionists had no intention of sharing at all, but at times it was a useful fiction.

          • Neutralone

            As I wrote in my other comment to you, YOUR INTERPRETATION of the meaning of the White Paper is WRONG and your view is nothing but a self-serving explanation, designed to bad mouth Zionism.

          • JGISD

            Read and learn:

            Balfour Declaration of 1917:

            “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national HOME for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, IT BEING CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT NOTHING SHALL BE DONE WHICH MAY PREJUDICE THE CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS RIGHTS OF EXISTING NON-JEWISH COMMUNITIES IN PALESTINE, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

            White Paper of 1939:

            “His Majesty’s Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. […] His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.”

            It doesn’t get clearer than that.

          • Neutralone

            REALLY? from the White Paper: “….. COULD NOT HAVE INTENDED that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country”

            WHY the White Paper, and WHY British weaseling out on Jewish immigration and Jewish State? Arab resistance, 3 years of violent Arab rebellion, realization that Arabs were much more numerous than Jews, Arab oil. ie political expediency

            READ THE FOLLOWING about opinions world leaders about the Balfour Declaration when it actually was issued.

            In approving the Balfour Declaration, Leopold Amery, one of the Secretaries to the British War Cabinet of 1917–18, testified under oath to the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in January 1946 from his personal knowledge that:

            The phrase “the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish people” was intended and understood by all concerned to mean at the time of the Balfour Declaration that Palestine would ultimately become a “Jewish Commonwealth” or a “Jewish State”, if only Jews came and settled there in sufficient numbers.

            Lloyd George, who was Prime Minister at the time of the Declaration, told the Palestine Royal Commission in 1937 that it was intended that Palestine may become a Jewish Commonwealth if and when Jews “had become a definite majority of the inhabitants”:

            President Wilson brushed away all doubts as to what was intended from his point of view when, in March 1919, he said to the Jewish leaders in America, “I am moreover persuaded that the allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own Government and people are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundations of a Jewish Commonwealth.” The late President Roosevelt declared that one of the Allies peace conditions should be that “Palestine must be made a Jewish State.” Mr. Winston Churchill has spoken of a “Jewish State” and Mr. Bonar Law has talked in Parliament of “restoring Palestine to the Jews”. “Report of the Palin Commission August 1920

          • Helen4Yemen

            “”national home for the Jewish people”

            On what basis is the Ashkenazi on Arab land?
            Is Palestine is grandma’s land?

          • JGISD

            Balfour Declaration of 1917:

            “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national HOME for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, IT BEING CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT NOTHING SHALL BE DONE WHICH MAY PREJUDICE THE CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS RIGHTS OF EXISTING NON-JEWISH COMMUNITIES IN PALESTINE, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

            White Paper of 1939:

            “His Majesty’s Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. […] His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.”

            It doesn’t get clearer than that.

          • MissCostello

            ONE ‘like’. YOURS. Again.

      • Steve Amos

        Now keep me typing because I’m gonna start quoting from the report, all these Israeli figures are quite eye opening.

        • Jack

          Steve Amos – OMG The Report from the “no one to consider or take attention to” , that for you and your ilk is the New Bible……
          The report has already disappeared in the sewer, like all other transparent pathetic delusional persons, that tried the same in the past and faded away… Perhaps only the smell would remain

        • A.S.F.

          You are a propagandist (a bad one) and a liar. You have been caught in your lies. Deal with it.

          • Steve Amos

            Again! Accusations without substance, just prove why you are Falk bashing, that is what this page is about.
            Prove him wrong on any of his points.
            All of his findings are backed up with solid actual evidence.
            If the evidence is flawed then show me!
            I put it to you that even a clever zionist cannot refute Falk’s report, that is why the huge lobbying industry that globally silences debate are so busy. Otherwise we would be looking forward to a healthy debate, it will come whether you like it or not.

          • Jack

            Here is it again.
            OMG The Report from the “no one to consider or take attention to” , that for you and your ilk is the New Bible……
            The report has already disappeared in the sewer, like all other transparent pathetic delusional persons, that tried the same in the past and faded away… Perhaps only the smell would remain

          • Steve Amos

            The credentials of both authors of the report are well beyond mine and I’m quite sure yours also:
            Richard Anderson Falk (born November 13, 1930[1]) is an American professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University.[2] He is the author or co-author of 20 books and the editor or co-editor of another 20 volumes,[3] In 2008, the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) appointed Falk to a six-year term as a United Nations Special Rapporteur on “the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967

          • A.S.F.

            I recommend that people curious about Richard Falk look up “Richard Falk” in Wikipedia. There is some very interesting information there about his history and his background that explains a lot.

          • Helen4Yemen

            If you do not like the message, attack the messenger. You already DISGRACED yourself by claiming that the Palestinians are not native to Palestine and when asked who the natives are went into hiding? I will continue to ask it … and you will keep running away.

          • A.S.F.

            I didn’t write Wikipedia, Helen. So, clearly, it is YOU who are guilty of trying to “attack the messenger”. Didn’t anyone ever tell you that old saying about, how when you point a finger in accusation against another person, there are three fingers on that same hand pointing back in your own direction?

          • Helen4Yemen

            You made a stupid statement that the Palestinians are not native to Palestine. I asked you who then are the natives and you have kept running away. How long are you going to run away …because I will continue to ask it again and again and again?

          • scorpion

            No but your HASBARA buddies are always on it, diluting anything factual!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I did! It’s exemplary! A life bravely and nobly lived!

          • Jack

            Human Rights Watch has just expelled official Richard Falk from its committees
            he Report from the “no one to consider or take attention to” , that for you and your ilk is the New Bible……
            The report has already disappeared in the sewer, like all other transparent pathetic delusional persons, that tried the same in the past and faded away… Perhaps only the smell would remain

          • Steve Amos

            Yeah that was in 2012, here’s a little truth about human right watch.
            On the face of it, HRW is an independent, Non-Governmental Organisation (NGO) ‘dedicated to defending and protecting human rights’. But it takes no more than a few seconds of research to find out that the primary donor of the HRW is liberal-Zionist George Soros and his Open Society Foundation – the same Soros and ‘Open’ society that supports most Palestinian NGOs including BDS which may perhaps explain why the BDS in Ramallah was so eager to compromise on that most precious Palestinian right i.e. The Right of Return. Nor will it surprise you to learn that the same Soros funded HRW has been dedicated to ‘exposing’ of Hamas’ failures on human rights issues? Is this not what you would expect from a liberal Zionist spin meisters

          • A.S.F.

            TRANSLATION from Steve Amos’s last Post: “Yeah, Jack, you were right, but so what? If I say the sky is purple with pink polka dots, you better believe it is and if you say it is blue, I will call you a ‘Zio-Nazi’ thug.'”

          • Steve Amos

            Again, when did I use the term Zio Nazi?? If I did I wholeheartedly withdraw it and apologise with cherries on top. While I do understand why people use the term, and do not think it’s half as bad as some of the insults you have been using, it doesn’t reflect my feelings.
            Now then about these polka dots in the beautiful purple sky, trippy innit?

          • A.S.F.

            The UN report, based on Falk’s fallacies, has been delegated to the dust-bin on its own (lack of) merits. Deal with it.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You know you are lying. It was taken down only because of the ZioNazi cult leaders and their minions being infuriated at being exposed for what horrible monsters they are.

      • MissCostello

        I see you’ve voted FOR YOURSELF *again*. Desperate eh?

  • Docteur Ciseaux

    We need to act the same way zionists act: pressuring universities, boycotting them. One day they will understand that they need to remain neutral and that external pressure from outside groups is morally unacceptable and foremost, anti academic.

    Jewish organisations should also realize that acting that way will only foster more anti semitism. Most people don’t draw a clear line between anti zionism and anti semitism, and that line has been blurred further by zionists for obvious reasons. Each time I hear that people confuse the two, I point them to benevolent jewish organisations who definitely need our support because they are caught in the crossfire.

    • A.S.F.

      As per your first sentence–Like you haven’t been doing that already, for quite some time! The world is wising up to your tactics and recognizing them for what they are. Not everyone appreciates the lying hypocritical and underhanded nature of “Taqiyya.” Deal with THAT.

  • Steve Amos

    A lot of trashy talk here, bit daft an that, can I please clarify that Anti israeli does not mean anti Jewish. That’s a fact as long as you are using the English language. Anyone has a right to criticise any countries policies without being labelled.
    Semitic does not mean Jews in Palestine, the word refers to the indigenise population of Palestine which no one can claim are Jewish as even the most zealous zionists will tell you their particular god promised the land to them, so it wasn’t theirs in the first instance.
    By this measure anyone that doesn’t follow the Jewish faith can voice opposition to the reformation of israel, and argue against its existence.
    Personally I feel the world would be better shared.
    A point of fact is that israel under the Balfour declaration was to be a home for the Jews in Palestine, not a Jewish state.

    • Jack

      Steve Amos – Again looks at the world from Above……..”A point of fact is”
      Your clarifications are maybe good for you and some other that use the same Jew Hate dialect rhetoric….

      • Steve Amos

        I don’t hate anyone, I hate what people do, I have no particular faith, I was raised a catholic and though I respect some of the teachings of all faiths it is only as good philosophy.
        You seem to think that an insult is an argument, it’s quite enlightening about you but completely irrelevant to the actual argument.

        • Jack

          Steve Amos – I don’t argue with you, as there is nothing to argue with people who are Basing their premises as self-evident and indisputable, using the same old Jew Hate rhetoric….

          • scorpion

            Boo hoo hoo Jew hate rhetoric, how beastly we are, how dare we expose Zionist racism!

          • Jack

            scorpion – Boo hoo hoo says the Shia Muslim jihadist, that supports the Houthi killers in Yemen that slaughter thousands of Innocent yemenite civilians in Yemen children and Women and the killer Assad that slaughters thousands of his own people.

          • scorpion

            Just shows how thick and stupid you are, of course everyone who is anti Zionist is a Jihadist even jewish people like Finklestein Chomsky etc are all well known jihadist!!

            Assad isn’t slaughtering his own people the Isreali MOSSAD teams in Syria are the ones doing that.

            Only to be expected from a Zio zombie.

        • A.S.F.

          Let’s just say that your apparent lack of self-awareness is rather notable. Or maybe you are just too much of a moral coward to admit to your own prejudices and need to dress them up in politically correct clothes. Which would make you the most cynical and despicable of liars.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You can make up stories about the Palestinians not being to Palestine.’

            Please tell me who else is native if not the Palestinians?

          • Steve Amos

            Oh I freely admit my prejudice, I hate inhumanity, I hate murder of children, I hate improsonment without charge, I hate racism, I hate ethnic cleansing, de-facto I hate the actions and intentions of the israeli state.
            But I tell you this, with hand on heart, I don’t hate you. You can only be a victim, possibly with very bloody hands from national service, that’s how israel produces people with no humanity. They make you complicit in evil attrocities, with your army buddies, then it’s much easier to control you. No one wants to accept they were on the wrong side as they murdered and dispossessed innocent family’s.
            When you wake up, you might have enough time to begin to make amends to the innocent people of Palestine who’s only crime was to be there when the greatest mistake of modern times happened, the creation of Israel.

          • Jack

            Steve Amos – Did you know that your comrades, Hele4yemen and TecumsehUnfaced
            admire and support the Houthi Killers in Yemen, that slaughter those days thousands of innocent civilians children and women in Yemen.
            They are pruodly supporting those killers !
            Will you condemn them .

          • Helen4Yemen

            “when one of the greatest mistakes of modern times happened, the creation of Israel.”

            Great comment – except that I would probably say that the creation of this entity was the greatest disaster of all time.

          • A.S.F.

            You celebrate your exquisite love of humanity while railing against “Zio-Nazi thugs?” Riiigghhhht!

          • Steve Amos

            If I have used the term Zio Nazi I am unaware an I would withdraw it, not because there aren’t parallels, more because I consider it to be an extreme term that doesn’t reflect my feelings.
            Zionist thugs tho, now then, if you like I can repost all of the references that have been put on this page and add to them the white papers that I have seen while researching this page. No one anywhere except proper extreme zionists would argue that the expansion of Israel has not been through violence and destruction hence the fitting term ‘thugs.’

          • Helen4Yemen

            Meaning that the people object to Jews when they murder Arabs in cold blood but would not feel the same way when the British or the French did it? Is that what you mean?

    • Mike Abramov

      Steve – based upon many meetings and conversations I have had with pro-Palestinians, I am afraid your are wrong. The Arabs do not want Jews ‘en masse’ in the ME. Fact.

      • Steve Amos

        I am not aware that I have suggested they do!
        No indigenous population would want a foreign collection intent on oppression and apartheid in their midst.

        • Mike Abramov

          If that is your interpretation of the scenario in the ME, that is your interpretation. It is not however, a fact. I question the word indigenous. Many ‘Palestinians’ originated from a collection of other Arab countries especially Jordan.

          • A.S.F.

            In other words, Mike–THEIR very real “Apartheid” ambitions are admirable while Israel’s make-believe ones are unacceptable.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You need to tell me why the Jews from Lithuania, Russia, Poland, Germany, Hungary … are clinging to and leeching off the land of Palestine. Is Palestine any Ashkenazi Jewry grandmother’s land?

    • Helen4Yemen

      “A point of fact is that israel under the Balfour declaration was to be a home for the Jews in Palestine, not a Jewish state.”
      ____________

      Explain to me why Palestine should not be the home of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews but not Jews from Yemen or Lithuania or Russia or China …

      • Steve Amos

        Oh I agree, the Balfour declaration was in my opinion one of the worst mistakes in U.K. History. In truth people like the Rothschilds have no nationality but greed, perhaps corporations just weren’t big enough, now they have a country, their own army, Mickey Mouse law, they don’t sign up to any international agreements because they consider themselves above other countries.

  • Distressed7

    Zionist Jews are agents of totalitarianism. The are really a flipside of Nazism.

    • Jack

      As usual, another psycho commenter that writes :
      “The Synagogue of Satan is real. It is all over the Book of Revelation. The entire world of the so called Jew and Gentile is under judgement. The Satanists of Entertainment want us opiated and dead to reality. The so called “government” we have ”
      Another one that will claim he is “Anti Zionist”, but not a Jew Hater”

    • A.S.F.

      You can always tell an Anti-Semite by the way they maliciously (and completely incorrectly) like to call “Zionist Jews” Nazis. Look up the word “totalitarianism” and see how neatly it describes a plethora of majority Muslim nations ruled by Sharia Law.

      • JGISD

        When you are done with that, actually read the Quran and learn that Sharia law is no different from the Ten Commandments, and that unlike Christianity and Judaism, Islamic law can only be applied to Muslims.

        It says “On God We Trust” on US money. In Israel, non-Jews are not allowed to organize politically to challenge the bigotry inherent in Israel’s Basic Law. There’s your totalitarianism.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
        Middle East – Tom Suarez on January 1, 2017

        a report by US Intelligence in the Middle East, dated the 4th of June, 1943, entitled “Latest Aspects of the Palestine Zionist-Arab Problem”. It described “Zionism in Palestine” as

        a type of nationalism which in any other country would be stigmatised as retrograde Nazism,

        and stated that anti-Semitism was essential to it. Whereas

        assimilated Jews in Europe and America are noted for being … stout opponents of racialism and discrimination,

        Zionism has bred the opposite mentality in Palestine,

        a spirit closely akin to Nazism, namely, an attempt to regiment the community, even by force, and to resort to force to get what they want.

        ->http://mondoweiss.NET/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

      • Helen4Yemen

        I do not call you “Zionist Jews”, I call you foriegn predatory LEECHES!

        • A.S.F.

          Which pretty clearly pegs you as an Anti-Semite, not an “Anti-Zionist”…by virtue of your own choice of words.

          • Helen4Yemen

            My choice of words has nothing to do with where you came from or what kind of religion you practice. The British in Kenya and the French in Algeria were foreign leeches just as the Ashkenazi in Palestine is a predatory FOREIGN LEECH!

          • A.S.F.

            YOU opened the door to others to examine your own choice of words…QUOTE: ” I do not call you Zionist Jews, I call you foreign LEECHES.” Blame yourself for showing off your malicious prejudices for everyone to witness. Sadly for you, that is all that your ridiculous post accomplished.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am not calling Jews or Christians or Hindus or any other group of people “leeches”. It applies to foreign people who used force to enter the land of other people and using force began to leech off the resources of the land of other people.

          • A.S.F.

            You dug your own rhetorical grave. Go lie in it–or, more to the point, just continue to keep trying to lie desperately from within its depths. It’s all on you.

          • Helen4Yemen

            If the shoe fits …………. here is a good definition of a ‘leech”

            “a person who clings to another for personal gain, especially without giving anything in return, and usually with the implication or effect of exhausting the other’s resources; parasite.”

            “to cling to and feed upon or drain, as a leech”

            “a person who clings to or preys on another person”

    • JGISD

      When you are done with that, actually read the Quran and learn that
      Sharia law is no different from the Ten Commandments, and that unlike
      Christianity and Judaism, Islamic law can only be applied to Muslims.

      It says “On God We Trust” on US money. In Israel, non-Jews are not
      allowed to organize politically to challenge the bigotry inherent in
      Israel’s Basic Law. There’s your totalitarianism.

      • A.S.F.

        Yeah, that is why, when large numbers of Muslims have been polled to ask if they consider it acceptable to kill anyone who dares draw a cartoon relating to the Prophet Mohammed, a majority percentage have stated that they feel that that’s okey-dokey. It’s not just what is written in paper in the Quran, the Bible, etc, that matters–It’s how those words are being applied. And, at this point in time, a majority of civilized countries throughout the world are not fearful of the next JEWISH terrorist attack…They are highly anxious of the next MUSLIM one. And most majority Christian nations aren’t going around throwing LGBT people off of tall buildings and stoning women or killing people for not being sufficiently Christian in the eyes of their government. And that certainly is not true, either, of the one sole majority Jewish nation that exists currently on the planet today. May I suggest you ditch your sweeping arrogance in favor of getting a clue and a conscience?

        • JGISD

          Those polls were conducted in Middle Eastern hotbeds of “Islamic extremism” by those who are against Islam on principle. The issue is not Islam, it’s local culture. Female genital mutilation for instance is practiced almost exclusively by Christians in those predominantly “Muslim” nations. That extremism does not extend to the Quran itself, and it does not extend to the 99.998% of Muslims outside of that region who have never expressed violence through their religion, so I don’t understand how the man who just lectured us all on drawing sweeping conclusions about Zionists, suddenly feels comfortable making such a deeply disingenuous conclusion about those he loves to hate.

          Let me tell you what people are actually afraid of. It’s not the Muslim-hatred being pushed in our Zionist-owned mainstream media: The majority of people in financial distress around the developed world aren’t facing their fate because of the interference of Islam, they are suffering because of the Jewish/ Zionist principle of usury. It is actually illegal in Islam to profit by impoverishing another man, yet Zionists worldwide make it a cornerstone of their personal belief system to profit by destroying others.

          Your logic goes awry when you deliberately put forth the false claim that Zionism represents Jews in a quest for statehood, when the majority of Zionists in the world are not even Jewish. Zionism is a hate-filled political philosophy which practices exclusion and maltreatment of anyone not of the “chosen people.” It’s all about vilifying and persecuting those that the Zionists perceive are standing in their way of crushing others.

          We have other specific words and phrases to describe that worldview, and they are not very pretty.

          • A.S.F.

            For you to arrogantly claim that you can define “Zionism” like you are some kind of unbiased scholarly expert on the subject is straight up ridiculous. You are an Anti-Zionist wannabe propagandist. That’s all you are–and it’s a kind description for what you really are at heart.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Zionism means the Shlomo’s wanna come home to Palestine, right?
            Problem is Mr. Shlomo’s DNA readers 99.9% European and
            0% Middle Eastern. YES OR NO?

          • Jack

            Helen4Yemen to KingBob ✓Adorable • 2 days ago

            I beg you pardon, I meant to say that Muslims, like Christians and Jews are a religious group and not a race !.

          • MissCostello

            And all YOU can do is call people names & endlessly regurgitate rubbish totally bereft of FACTS.

          • Jack

            JGISD – As I didn’t know that you are a Shia Muslim Jihadist !

        • Helen4Yemen

          “a majority of civilized countries throughout the world are not fearful of the next JEWISH terrorist attack…”
          ___
          It looks to me Mr. Mileikowsky traveled all the way from Lithuania to Arab Palestine and began to squat on stolen land and produced the now PM of the Zionist state who now goes by Natanyahu. Tell me why did the Mileikowsky’s go to Palestine where they do not belong and where they could be with their “civilized brothers” in Europe instead?

        • Helen4Yemen

          “And most majority Christian nations aren’t going around throwing LGBT people off of tall buildings and stoning women or killing people for not being sufficiently Christian in the eyes of their government. ”
          ____
          It was not too long ago these very same Christian nations were putting Jews in ovens or expelling them repeatedly.
          But give me a list of Muslim countries that threw gays from buildings, please provide dates. Give me also a list of Muslin nations that stoned women…you are such a shameless LIAR that I can tell you that you will not come up with the list because these incidents you describe did not happen. Listen: I just called you a liar, right? I will apologize if you can provide a list … waiting for the list …

          • A.S.F.

            You must be kidding me! You can’t really be that stupid! As a matter of fact, Hamas has been known to throw a Gay person or two off of rooftops and they actually executed one of their own Senior military personnel via machine gun, claiming it was because he was involved in homosexual activity. It’s not contingent upon me to take the time to look up the obvious and tediously enumerate it for you. You can take your own little typing finger and google the info for yourself. Given who you are and where you say you live, I am quite sure you know this information already. Anyone can google “Treatment of LGBT/Gays in the Muslim World” and, for their own edification, I suggest that they do. You, on the other hand, could look a horse in the eye and call it a camel…and then try to quote DNA/race statistics to try to prove it. So, you are kind of a lost cause.

          • Helen4Yemen

            ANSWER THIS ONE – YOU LIAR. You did say the Palestinians come from elsewhere, did you not?
            ____________
            If Palestinians are “Trans-Jordanians”, then please tell me:

            a) who the natives are?
            b) what did they look like?
            c) what language did they speak?
            d) what kind of food did they cook?
            e) what religion did they practice?
            f) how did they dress?
            g) where are they now?
            h) how many of them are there now?
            i) what are they called?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Somebody only has to look Arab for a ZioNazi thug to gratuitously murder him.

          • scorpion

            There are dead Jews that prove that point!!

          • MissCostello

            It’s not contingent upon me to take the time to look up (blah blah):
            You don’t appear to have a problem with ‘time’ spouting your eye watering hasbara crap; put up or shut up.

          • peepsqueek

            It was the Nazi regime that were putting Jews in ovens. Nazism, as a political entity lasted 10 years. They were not murdering Jews n the name of Jesus, and it did not workout well for them. Sixty million Europeans died as a result, Germany was devastated. We do have today, as in right now, dozens of daily terrorist acts in multiple Countries in the name of Islam, the perpetrators are proud of their handiwork, and most of the victims are everyday good Muslims.

          • Helen4Yemen

            What regimes expelled Jews 108 times?

            Why were Jews expelled more than 100 times from Europe?

            – 250 Carthage – 415 Alexandria – 554 Diocèse of Clermont (France) – 561 Diocèse of Uzès (France) – 612 Visigoth Spain – 642 Visigoth Empire – 855 Italy – 876 Sens – 1012 Mainz – 1182 France – 1182 Germany – 1276 Upper Bavaria – 1290 England – 1306 France – 1322 France (again) – 1348 Switzerland – 1349 Hielbronn (Germany) – 1349 Saxony – 1349 Hungary – 1360 Hungary – 1370 Belgium – 1380 Slovakia – 1388 Strasbourg – 1394 Germany – 1394 France – 1420 Lyons – 1421 Austria – 1424 Fribourg – 1424 Zurich – 1424 Cologne – 1432 Savoy – 1438 Mainz – 1439 Augsburg – 1442 Netherlands – 1444 Netherlands – 1446 Bavaria – 1453 France – 1453 Breslau – 1454 Wurzburg – 1462 Mainz – 1483 Mainz – 1484 Warsaw – 1485 Vincenza (Italy) – 1492 Spain – 1492 Italy – 1495 Lithuania – 1496 Naples – 1496 Portugal – 1498 Nuremberg – 1498 Navarre – 1510 Brandenberg – 1510 Prussia – 1514 Strasbourg – 1515 Genoa – 1519 Regensburg – 1533 Naples – 1541 Naples – 1542 Prague & Bohemia – 1550 Genoa – 1551 Bavaria – 1555 Pesaro – 1557 Prague – 1559 Austria – 1561 Prague – 1567 Wurzburg – 1569 Papal States – 1571 Brandenburg – 1582 Netherlands – 1582 Hungary – 1593 Brandenburg, Austria – 1597 Cremona, Pavia & Lodi – 1614 Frankfort – 1615 Worms – 1619 Kiev – 1648 Ukraine – 1648 Poland – 1649 Hamburg – 1654 Little Russia (Beylorus) – 1656 Lithuania – 1669 Oran (North Africa) – 1669 Vienna – 1670 Vienna – 1712 Sandomir – 1727 Russia – 1738 Wurtemburg – 1740 Little Russia (Beylorus) – 1744 Prague, Bohemia – 1744 Slovakia – 1744 Livonia – 1745 Moravia – 1753 Kovad (Lithuania) – 1761 Bordeaux – 1772 Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia) – 1775 Warsaw – 1789 Alsace – 1804 Villages in Russia – 1808 Villages & Countrysides (Russia) – 1815 Lbeck & Bremen – 1815 Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria – 1820 Bremen – 1843 Russian Border Austria & Prussia – 1862 Areas in the U.S. under General Grant’s Jurisdiction[1] – 1866 Galatz, Romania – 1880s Russia – 1891 Moscow – 1919 Bavaria (foreign born Jews) – 193845 Nazi Controlled Areas – 1948 Arab Countries

        • Helen4Yemen

          “And that certainly is not true, either, of the one sole majority Jewish nation that exists currently on the planet today”

          The problem is that this Jew state was created for Europe to remove the Jews it had hated for centuries. Give me one good reason why the Arab must carry Europe’s own Jewish problem?

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Hilarious! A member of the genocidal ZioNazi cult suggesting someone get a conscience. Did Menachem Begin have a conscience? Did Yitzhak Shamir have a conscience? Did Isser Harel have a conscience? Did David Ben-Gurion have a conscience? Why didn’t any of these war criminals have conscience?

        • Steve Amos

          Please reference the poll suggesting that the majority of muslims approve of murdering cartoonists or withdraw the comment.
          You constantly attack evidence with slur and are plainly here telling a complete lie.
          I AM CALLING YOU A LIAR! If you prove me wrong I will eat my sock, trust me, I wouldn’t survive.

          • A.S.F.

            I have tried twice to answer your challenge and each time I have quoted sources, my comment has been “moderated” out. That says all that needs be said about the openness to dissenting opinion amongst some specific groups, I think.

          • Steve Amos

            To be honest you are an extremist, come to terms with the fact that your views are just unacceptable in the real work dude.

          • A.S.F.

            Methinks you had to throw in the obligatory “dude” word in there to try to make yourself appear to be something you are not. How transparent of you.

          • Steve Amos

            Ohh here we go, I suppose in some kinda jihaddybaddy coz no Anglo Saxon white guy could object to murder and apartheid.
            Well I objected to South Africa and I object to israel for the same reasons.
            I changed my profile because one of you muppets claimed it was fake.
            So you want me to change it again? I can do this all frickin day bub.
            See when your not hiding things and lying it’s easy, you won’t know about that mr faceless.

          • A.S.F.

            Actually, it doesn’t matter much where bigots like you hail from. As far as I’m concerned, you all swarm out from under the same rock.

          • Steve Amos

            That’s right kimusabi, it’s called humanity, I guarantee you won’t know it.

          • A.S.F.

            I love the way some “human rights activists of the Anti-Zionism persuasion” these days come off more like low-level sociopaths– of the itinerant type that used to sell bibles door to door.

          • Steve Amos

            I’m not a human rights activist, I’ve never marched or taken any form of action. I’m actually here to say that the debate on israel as an apartheid state must be heard, it’s what this page is about, I really don’t care what a self confessed racist has to say about me defending the freedom of speech and importance of debate.i have said already I struggle with any theocracy in the world including Islamic. This is the 21st century and anywhere in the world we should be able to live together with equal rights despite our faith.

          • A.S.F.

            Alas, your first sentence does not surprise me.

          • Steve Amos

            So YOU call me a human rights activist, then say you are not surprised I’m not an activist, once again, direct and immediate contradiction.

          • A.S.F.

            The finer points of irony escape you. I am willing to bet that you have put in little, if any, hand-on direct work into championing the cause of human rights and the only reason you try to paint yourself as someone who “defends humanity” (or, tellingly, select portions of it) is so you can promote your own prejudices. But that’s what hypocrites (at the very least) do.

          • Steve Amos

            I just keep you guys typing, that way I limit the crap you can spread elsewhere and as long as youre typing youre revealing your selves to be insulting unpleasant lying racist thugs, its too easy!

          • A.S.F.

            That is precisely what trolls do. Thanks for unmasking yourself.

          • Steve Amos

            Yeah, call some one who has put two profile pictures up of himself because you claimed that the first was a fake, who has challenged you to find those pictures anywhere because he hasn’t published them anywhere, you go ahead tho and say he is unmasking himself. And all this time you have no profile picture and hide your comments from previous posts.
            If I type duplicity into google there’s a good chance I might actually see a picture of you.

          • Steve Amos

            Don’t think I don’t know that your script, your orders are to get personal with people to distract from the evidence preferred by Falk et al, that proves beyond any reasonable, (rules you out), doubt that Israel is an apartheid state.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are dealing with one of the most unabashed hasbara trolls …and the very best. This troll has no shame when the troll attempts to spread pure and stupid propaganda. This troll for example claimed that the Palestinians are not native to Palestine but came from other Arab countries. Then the question that begs to be asked -which I did ask- was who the natives are and where are the natives if it is not the Palestinians. This troll ran away from that question and has not stopped running away. The troll claimed that Muslims or Arabs throw gays from tall buildings. I asked the troll to give me few instances where this occurred in Muslim counties. The troll ran away from that question and has not stopped running away. I told the troll that I would call it a habitual liar until such time the troll can provide answers to my questions. The troll ran away and has kept running away.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You must be out of your mind! Imagine the Germans defending their crimes the way you are attempting to defend yours …? Just imagine!

          • Helen4Yemen

            IF THE SHOE FITS …

            __ John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt:

            “Ben-Gurion acknowledged that the early Zionists were far from benevolent towards the Palestinian Arabs, who resisted their encroachments – which is hardly surprising, given that the Zionists were trying to create their own state on Arab land. In the same way, the creation of Israel in 1947-48 involved acts of ethnic cleansing, including executions, massacres and rapes by Jews, and Israel’s subsequent conduct has often been brutal, belying any claim to moral superiority. Between 1949 and 1956, for example, Israeli security forces killed between 2700 and 5000 Arab infiltrators, the overwhelming majority of them unarmed. The IDF murdered hundreds of Egyptian prisoners of war in both the 1956 and 1967 wars, while in 1967, it expelled between 100,000 and 260,000 Palestinians from the newly conquered West Bank, and drove 80,000 Syrians from the Golan Heights.”

            (Source:The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt)

          • Steve Amos

            That’s actually pretty funny, because you guys don’t care where Zionist thugs come from either, they’re all welcome in your ‘state’.

          • A.S.F.

            You say “Zionist thugs” a lot for someone who professes such a keen interest in “humanitarianism.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            IF THE SHOE FITS ….

            Benny Morris:

            _ “The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.
            _ In Acre four soldiers raped a girl and murdered her and her father. In Jaffa, soldiers of the Kiryati Brigade raped one girl and tried to rape several more. At Hunin, which is in the Galilee, two girls were raped and then murdered. There were one or two cases of rape at Tantura, south of Haifa. There was one case of rape at Qula, in the center of the country. At the village of Abu Shusha, near Kibbutz Gezer [in the Ramle area] there were four female prisoners, one of whom was raped a number of times. And there were other cases. Usually more than one soldier was involved. Usually there were one or two Palestinian girls. In a large proportion of the cases the event ended with murder. Because neither the victims nor the rapists liked to report these events, we have to assume that the dozen cases of rape that were reported, which I found, are not the whole story. They are just the tip of the iceberg.”
            _ In some cases four or five people were executed, in others the numbers were 70, 80, 100. There was also a great deal of arbitrary killing. Two old men are spotted walking in a field – they are shot. A woman is found in an abandoned village – she is shot. There are cases such as the village of Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything that moved.
            _ “The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and perhaps Abu Shusha (70). There is no unequivocal proof of a large-scale massacre at Tantura, but war crimes were perpetrated there. At Jaffa there was a massacre about which nothing had been known until now. The same at Arab al Muwassi, in the north. About half of the acts of massacre were part of Operation Hiram [in the north, in October 1948]: at Safsaf, Saliha, Jish, Eilaboun, Arab al Muwasi, Deir al Asad, Majdal Krum, Sasa. In Operation Hiram there was a unusually high concentration of executions of people against a wall or next to a well in an orderly fashion.
            _ “That can’t be chance. It’s a pattern. Apparently, various officers who took part in the operation understood that the expulsion order they received permitted them to do these deeds in order to encourage the population to take to the roads. The fact is that no one was punished for these acts of murder. Ben-Gurion silenced the matter. He covered up for the officers who did the massacres.”
            _ One of the revelations in the book is that on October 31, 1948, the commander of the Northern Front, Moshe Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite the removal of the Arab population. Carmel took this action immediately after a visit by Ben-Gurion to the Northern Command in Nazareth. There is no doubt in my mind that this order originated with Ben-Gurion. Just as the expulsion order for the city of Lod, which was signed by Yitzhak Rabin, was issued immediately after Ben-Gurion visited the headquarters of Operation Dani [July 1948].”
            _ “From April 1948, Ben-Gurion is projecting a message of transfer. There is no explicit order of his in writing, there is no orderly comprehensive policy, but there is an atmosphere of [population] transfer. The transfer idea is in the air. The entire leadership understands that this is the idea. The officer corps understands what is required of them. Under Ben-Gurion, a consensus of transfer is created.”
            _ “Of course Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood that there could be no Jewish state with a large and hostile Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It would not be able to exist.”
            _ “Ben-Gurion was right. If he had not done what he did, a state would not have come into being. That has to be clear. It is impossible to evade it. Without the uprooting of the Palestinians, a Jewish state would not have arisen here.”
            _ That is what Zionism faced. A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads.

          • A.S.F.

            You know darn well that Benny Morris has changed his tune to such a degree that he has accused the Arab world of “ethnic cleansing” as their modus operandi for centuries. And considering how suppression, rape, forced marriage and violence against women in every form imaginable is a rampant and everyday occurrence in the majority Muslim world–INCLUDING in the Palestinian territories and your beloved Yemen–you picked a really poor example to make your predictably fallacious (non)point.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Let’s say the Arabs are the worst creatures on earth. The question is why is that business of the white man from Lithuania, Russia, Poland, Germany … or are you going to get silly on me and claim that the Ashkenazi is not white? If he is not white, is he black like Africans or brown like the Arabs?

          • A.S.F.

            I am not saying ‘the Arabs are the worst creatures on earth”, nor would ever say that. it is YOU who are trying to paint Jews (“excuse me, “Zionists”, “Goldbergs”, Schlomo’s”, etc.) with that brush.

          • Helen4Yemen

            QUESTION: WHAT IS THE ASHKENSZI -TOTALLY EUROPEAN- DOING ON THAT LAND? Is he genetically related to the Chaldeans of Ur: Abaram, Isaac, Jacob? Yes or no?

            Give me a good reason why the European is on Arab land? Or are you going to say the land belongs to the Chaldeans of Ur?

          • Steve Amos

            Yes, I use the word thug, its definition is:
            noun: thug; plural noun: thugs; noun: Thug
            1.
            a violent person, especially a criminal.
            If you have a better description of people that violently dispossess or murder people to steal their land then I will consider it.

          • A.S.F.

            Are the people who sneak up on random Jews and plunge knives in them, screaming “ALLAH AKBAR!’, thugs? Are the masked throngs of Palestinians who throw petrol bombs through the windshields of moving cars and rocks at the heads of soldiers and settlers “thugs?” Are the Hamas judicial militia who execute Palestinians without trial and then tie their bodies to the backs of their military jeeps to drag around the Gaza town square “thugs?” Are the UNWRA “teachers” who urge Palestinian school-children to commit terror against Jews for the sake of God and country “thugs?” Are the parents who accept “stipends” after said children commit their homicidal/suicidal jaunts (the higher the Jewish body count, the larger the amount of the “stipend”) “thugs”–or, perhaps they are just “generational enablers and pimps” of such “thug-dom?”

          • Steve Amos

            Palestinians are desperate people fighting an illegal, (under international law), occupation. Were the French resistance wrong to try to kill Nazis? I know what id do if you guys ever tried to occupy blighty, there would be no limit, I would fight and die to protect my country and my family.
            These are civillians fighting the most heavily armed soldiers on earth with stones and knives, how brave the IDF are as they shoot injured people in the head.

          • A.S.F.

            Their “occupation” is the result of the Palestinians own self-defeating decision to go to war with Israel again and again…and losing ground, literally, every time they do–which is what happens when you start conflicts and then lose them. The “occupation” would have ended long ago had the Palestinians been willing to sit down and negotiate the issue of fair and defensible (for both sides) boundaries and borders. The Palestinians have refused every offer to come to the table face-to-face to do so so. “Cause and Effect”: Learn it. Live it. Teach the concept to your Palestinian brothers and sisters.

          • Steve Amos

            Yeah, once again can I thank you for highlighting the fact that israel has maintained a state of war since the sixties, in order to maintain occupation. So please tell me how the Palestinians are going to war, they are being held at war, this is so the israeli state can bypass law and hold innocent civilian’s under military rules. It is utterly indefensible, it mirrors policy used by South Africa and is another indicator of a deeply oppressive apartheid state, cheers dude.

          • A.S.F.

            Once again, the “occupation” is “maintained”, as you put it, because the Palestinians refuse to come to the table to negotiate the issue of defensible boundaries, face to face, with the Israelis, despite multiple attempts by the Israelis (with several other international brokers, including the US) to try to convince them to do so. THAT is why the “occupation” continues–because the Palestinians do everything in their self-destructive power to make it continue. They also continually threaten to go to war with Israel and shoot rockets off into Israel’s backyard randomly, but continually, in order to punctuate those threats. “Cause and Effect”, dude. Learn it. Live it. Teach the concept to your Palestinian brothers and sisters. By the way, Israel has proposed several times to pull back some of their IDF troops from certain parts of the West Bank. Whenever they do, Abbas demands that they stay to provide “necessary security in critical areas.” The Palestinian Authority’s own security forces have killed unruly and rioting Palestinians in those areas on more than one occasion. Whenever that occurs, his popularity slips. Abbas needs Israel to keep spending resources he doesn’t want to expend (that Palestinian taxes are supposed to paying for, but don’t) and to take the heat for his own incompetence and inability to contain the violence that he, himself, purposefully arouses and incites. Reality, dude…Try it some time.

  • MissCostello

    ‘hide’; even if they tried, the smell of racist apartheid would give them away.

    • A.S.F.

      The stench of your bigotry gives you away…from MILES away. Now, go to the pub and glug-glug up…or toke up with anyone who will have you.

      • MissCostello

        Teetotal: Charmer.

  • Helen4Yemen

    If Palestinians are “Trans-Jordanians”, then please tell me:

    a) who the natives are?
    b) what did they look like?
    c) what language did they speak?
    d) what kind of food did they cook?
    e) what religion did they practice?
    f) how did they dress?
    g) where are they now?
    h) how many of them are there now?
    i) what are they called?

    The Zionist LEECHES can make accusation but unable to answer this one?
    Why not Mr.and Mrs. LEECH?

  • Helen4Yemen

    “the unfairness of awarding 55 per cent of the territory to

    the Jewish presence as represented by the Zionist movement,

    which in 1947 represented an estimated 7 per cent of

    Palestine’s population.” Richard Falk

  • Freespirit

    ALL those ASHKENAZIM, European Jews ,presently on OCCUPIED land,they choose to call “israel”, should be returned to the European countries they come from, AT BRITAIN’S expense.

    The ONLY exceptions should be those European Jews who PURCHASED land from a WILLING Palestinian Vendor…KEY WORD- “Willing” , otherwise they should also be returned to Europe and the land returned to the Palestinians who was forced to sell

    • Helen4Yemen

      The only ones to remain should be only the indigenous Palestinian Jews … and everyone else from Europe, Africa, Asia, the Arab countries is out. The French left Algeria and went home, they were not pushed to the sea. The Ashkenazi too can safely go home.

      By the time the stampede had begun by white Europeans to Palestine in 1882, Jewish land ownership was less than 0.1% of Palestine. By 1947, all that the white Europeans managed to buy was 6.6% of Palestine and the rest he stole. Whose land is the white European giving up for peace? The Palestinians’ land? Funny!

      Jewish land ownership in Palestine
      1882 — 22,500 —- 0.1% (Ashkenazi colonial settlers arrived )
      1900 — 218,000 — 0.8%
      1914 — 418,000 — 1.6%
      1927 — 865,000 — 3.2%
      1936 — 1,231,000 — 4.7%
      1945 — 1,588,365 — 6.%
      1947 — 1,734,000 — 6.6%

  • Helen4Yemen

    Julia Boutros – Lebanese singer honors Palestinians fighters

    Righteousness Is My Weapon

    Despite my pain, I will resist.
    I will not give up, I will not give in.
    And about my country I will not compromise.
    Righteousness is my weapon and I resist.
    Despite my pain, I will resist.
    I will not give up, I will not give in.
    And about my country I will not compromise.
    My home is here.
    My land is here.
    The sea, the plains, the rive are ours.
    And now, while facing fire can I be peaceful?
    I will resist!
    Righteousness is my weapon and I resist.
    Despite my pain, I will resist.
    I will not give up, I will not give in.
    And about my country I will not compromise.
    Oh my nation, your enemy was defeated.
    And the whole universe couldn’t defeat you.
    My people resisted the madness of the wind.
    We defied fear and danger.
    Oh my nation, your enemy was defeated.
    And the whole universe couldn’t defeat you.
    My people resisted the madness of the wind.
    We defied fear and danger.
    They will leave and we will remain!
    And the land will remain ours.
    Here we are stronger today.
    Stronger in every story (we tell).
    They will leave and we will remain!
    And the land will remain ours.
    Here we are stronger today.
    Stronger in every story (we tell).
    My home is here.
    My land is here.
    The sea, the plains, the rive are ours.
    And now, while facing fire can I be peaceful?
    I will resist!
    Righteousness is my weapon and I resist.
    Despite my pain, I will resist.
    I will not give up, I will not give in.
    And about my country I will not compromise.
    My home is here.
    My land is here.
    The sea, the plains, the rive are ours.
    And now, while facing fire can I be peaceful?
    I will resist!
    I will resist!

    https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/julia_boutros_righteousness_is_my_weapon/

    Watch the video above – please replace * with dot.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Christian Lebanese Singer: ISIS = ISRAEL
    ……………………………………………………………….

    – The silence of Arabs on the terrorism the war machine of Israel is committing against Gaza is unacceptable.

    – They made up the “Arab Spring” to shift our focus from the central cause of Palestine.

    -The real Arab Spring today is in Gaza.

    – I salute every mother, all the families, the clerics, every child, every resistance fighter.

    -Thanks to them and the Lebanese resistance (Hezbollah), the myth of the “invincible army” was destroyed.

    – The real “invincibles” are our people, our Palestinian people who are full of life.

    – They taught us bravery, they taught us dignity and glory.

    – And a word to the people of Iraq and Syria who are up against the same enemy, it is the same enemy but with a different face.

    – One face being the Zionist enemy, and the other being extremism (ISIS).

    – I salute you, people of Gaza, Syria and Iraq.

    Julia

    https://www*youtube*com/watch?v=n2M6Ko5GHfE

    (replace * with dot)

  • Helen4Yemen

    THE ODED YINON PLAN TO BREAK UP THE ARAB COUNTRIES

    A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties About the Translator

    by Oded Yinon Israel Shahak is a professor of organic chemistly at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and the chairman of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights. He published The Shahak Papers, collections of key articles from the Hebrew press, and is the author of numerous articles and books, among them Non-Jew in the Jewish State. His latest book is Israel’s Global Role: Weapons for Repression, published by the AAUG in 1982. Israel Shahak: (1933-2001)

    About the Translator

    Israel Shahak is a professor of organic chemistly at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and the chairman of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights. He published The Shahak Papers, collections of key articles from the Hebrew press, and is the author of numerous articles and books, among them Non-Jew in the Jewish State. His latest book is Israel’s Global Role: Weapons for Repression, published by the AAUG in 1982. Israel Shahak: (1933-2001)

    This essay originally appeared in Hebrew in KIVUNIM (Directions), A Journal for Judaism and Zionism; Issue No, 14–Winter, 5742, February 1982, Editor: Yoram Beck. Editorial Committee: Eli Eyal, Yoram Beck, Amnon Hadari, Yohanan Manor, Elieser Schweid. Published by the Department of Publicity/The World Zionist Organization, Jerusalem.

    1 At the outset of the nineteen eighties the State of Israel is in need of a new perspective as to its place, its aims and national targets, at home and abroad. This need has become even more vital due to a number of central processes which the country, the region and the world are undergoing. We are living today in the early stages of a new epoch in human history which is not at all similar to its predecessor, and its characteristics are totally different from what we have hitherto known. That is why we need an understanding of the central processes which typify this historical epoch on the one hand, and on the other hand we need a world outlook and an operational strategy in accordance with the new conditions. The existence, prosperity and steadfastness of the Jewish state will depend upon its ability to adopt a new framework for its domestic and foreign affairs.

    2 This epoch is characterized by several traits which we can already diagnose, and which symbolize a genuine revolution in our present lifestyle. The dominant process is the breakdown of the rationalist, humanist outlook as the major cornerstone supporting the life and achievements of Western civilization since the Renaissance. The political, social and economic views which have emanated from this foundation have been based on several “truths” which are presently disappearing–for example, the view that man as an individual is the center of the universe and everything exists in order to fulfill his basic material needs. This position is being invalidated in the present when it has become clear that the amount of resources in the cosmos does not meet Man’s requirements, his economic needs or his demographic constraints. In a world in which there are four billion human beings and economic and energy resources which do not grow proportionally to meet the needs of mankind, it is unrealistic to expect to fulfill the main requirement of Western Society, 1 i.e., the wish and aspiration for boundless consumption. The view that ethics plays no part in determining the direction Man takes, but rather his material needs do–that view is becoming prevalent today as we see a world in which nearly all values are disappearing. We are losing the ability to assess the simplest things, especially when they concern the simple question of what is Good and what is Evil.

    3 The vision of man’s limitless aspirations and abilities shrinks in the face of the sad facts of life, when we witness the break-up of world order around us. The view which promises liberty and freedom to mankind seems absurd in light of the sad fact that three fourths of the human race lives under totalitarian regimes. The views concerning equality and social justice have been transformed by socialism and especially by Communism into a laughing stock. There is no argument as to the truth of these two ideas, but it is clear that they have not been put into practice properly and the majority of mankind has lost the liberty, the freedom and the opportunity for equality and justice. In this nuclear world in which we are (still) living in relative peace for thirty years, the concept of peace and coexistence among nations has no meaning when a superpower like the USSR holds a military and political doctrine of the sort it has: that not only is a nuclear war possible and necessary in order to achieve the ends of Marxism, but that it is possible to survive after it, not to speak of the fact that one can be victorious in it.2

    4 The essential concepts of human society, especially those of the West, are undergoing a change due to political, military and economic transformations. Thus, the nuclear and conventional might of the USSR has transformed the epoch that has just ended into the last respite before the great saga that will demolish a large part of our world in a multi-dimensional global war, in comparison with which the past world wars will have been mere child’s play. The power of nuclear as well as of conventional weapons, their quantity, their precision and quality will turn most of our world upside down within a few years, and we must align ourselves so as to face that in Israel. That is, then, the main threat to our existence and that of the Western world. 3 The war over resources in the world, the Arab monopoly on oil, and the need of the West to import most of its raw materials from the Third World, are transforming the world we know, given that one of the major aims of the USSR is to defeat the West by gaining control over the gigantic resources in the Persian Gulf and in the southern part of Africa, in which the majority of world minerals are located. We can imagine the dimensions of the global confrontation which will face us in the future.

    5 The Gorshkov doctrine calls for Soviet control of the oceans and mineral rich areas of the Third World. That together with the present Soviet nuclear doctrine which holds that it is possible to manage, win and survive a nuclear war, in the course of which the West’s military might well be destroyed and its inhabitants made slaves in the service of Marxism-Leninism, is the main danger to world peace and to our own existence. Since 1967, the Soviets have transformed Clausewitz’ dictum into “War is the continuation of policy in nuclear means,” and made it the motto which guides all their policies. Already today they are busy carrying out their aims in our region and throughout the world, and the need to face them becomes the major element in our country’s security policy and of course that of the rest of the Free World. That is our major foreign challenge.4

    6 The Arab Moslem world, therefore, is not the major strategic problem which we shall face in the Eighties, despite the fact that it carries the main threat against Israel, due to its growing military might. This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great import. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes. The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorites and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging. 5 Most of the Arabs, 118 million out of 170 million, live in Africa, mostly in Egypt (45 million today).

    7 Apart from Egypt, all the Maghreb states are made up of a mixture of Arabs and non-Arab Berbers. In Algeria there is already a civil war raging in the Kabile mountains between the two nations in the country. Morocco and Algeria are at war with each other over Spanish Sahara, in addition to the internal struggle in each of them. Militant Islam endangers the integrity of Tunisia and Qaddafi organizes wars which are destructive from the Arab point of view, from a country which is sparsely populated and which cannot become a powerful nation. That is why he has been attempting unifications in the past with states that are more genuine, like Egypt and Syria. Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Moslem Sunni minority which rules over a majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans, and Christians. In Egypt there is a Sunni Moslem majority facing a large minority of Christians which is dominant in upper Egypt: some 7 million of them, so that even Sadat, in his speech on May 8, expressed the fear that they will want a state of their own, something like a “second” Christian Lebanon in Egypt.

    8 All the Arab States east of Israel are torn apart, broken up and riddled with inner conflict even more than those of the Maghreb. Syria is fundamentally no different from Lebanon except in the strong military regime which rules it. But the real civil war taking place nowadays between the Sunni majority and the Shi’ite Alawi ruling minority (a mere 12% of the population) testifies to the severity of the domestic trouble.

    9 Iraq is, once again, no different in essence from its neighbors, although its majority is Shi’ite and the ruling minority Sunni. Sixty-five percent of the population has no say in politics, in which an elite of 20 percent holds the power. In addition there is a large Kurdish minority in the north, and if it weren’t for the strength of the ruling regime, the army and the oil revenues, Iraq’s future state would be no different than that of Lebanon in the past or of Syria today. The seeds of inner conflict and civil war are apparent today already, especially after the rise of Khomeini to power in Iran, a leader whom the Shi’ites in Iraq view as their natural leader.

    10 All the Gulf principalities and Saudi Arabia are built upon a delicate house of sand in which there is only oil. In Kuwait, the Kuwaitis constitute only a quarter of the population. In Bahrain, the Shi’ites are the majority but are deprived of power. In the UAE, Shi’ites are once again the majority but the Sunnis are in power. The same is true of Oman and North Yemen. Even in the Marxist South Yemen there is a sizable Shi’ite minority. In Saudi Arabia half the population is foreign, Egyptian and Yemenite, but a Saudi minority holds power.

    • Helen4Yemen

      11 Jordan is in reality Palestinian, ruled by a Trans-Jordanian Bedouin minority, but most of the army and certainly the bureaucracy is now Palestinian. As a matter of fact Amman is as Palestinian as Nablus. All of these countries have powerful armies, relatively speaking. But there is a problem there too. The Syrian army today is mostly Sunni with an Alawi officer corps, the Iraqi army Shi’ite with Sunni commanders. This has great significance in the long run, and that is why it will not be possible to retain the loyalty of the army for a long time except where it comes to the only common denominator: The hostility towards Israel, and today even that is insufficient.

      12 Alongside the Arabs, split as they are, the other Moslem states share a similar predicament. Half of Iran’s population is comprised of a Persian speaking group and the other half of an ethnically Turkish group. Turkey’s population comprises a Turkish Sunni Moslem majority, some 50%, and two large minorities, 12 million Shi’ite Alawis and 6 million Sunni Kurds. In Afghanistan there are 5 million

      Shi’ites who constitute one third of the population. In Sunni Pakistan there are 15 million Shi’ites who endanger the existence of that state.

      13 This national ethnic minority picture extending from Morocco to India and from Somalia to Turkey points to the absence of stability and a rapid degeneration in the entire region. When this picture is added to the economic one, we see how the entire region is built like a house of cards, unable to withstand its severe problems.

      14 In this giant and fractured world there are a few wealthy groups and a huge mass of poor people. Most of the Arabs have an average yearly income of 300 dollars. That is the situation in Egypt, in most of the Maghreb countries except for Libya, and in Iraq. Lebanon is torn apart and its economy is falling to pieces. It is a state in which there is no centralized power, but only 5 de facto sovereign authorities (Christian in the north, supported by the Syrians and under the rule of the Franjieh clan, in the East an area of direct Syrian conquest, in the center a Phalangist controlled Christian enclave, in the south and up to the Litani river a mostly Palestinian region controlled by the PLO and Major Haddad’s state of Christians and half a million Shi’ites). Syria is in an even graver situation and even the assistance she will obtain in the future after the unification with Libya will not be sufficient for dealing with the basic problems of existence and the maintenance of a large army. Egypt is in the worst situation: Millions are on the verge of hunger, half the labor force is unemployed, and housing is scarce in this most densely populated area of the world. Except for the army, there is not a single department operating efficiently and the state is in a permanent state of bankruptcy and depends entirely on American foreign assistance granted since the peace.6

      15 In the Gulf states, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Egypt there is the largest accumulation of money and oil in the world, but those enjoying it are tiny elites who lack a wide base of support and self-confidence, something that no army can guarantee. 7 The Saudi army with all its equipment cannot defend the regime from real dangers at home or abroad, and what took place in Mecca in 1980 is only an example. A sad and very stormy situation surrounds Israel and creates challenges for it, problems, risks but also far-reaching opportunities for the first time since 1967. Chances are that opportunities missed at that time will become achievable in the Eighties to an extent and along dimensions which we cannot even imagine today.

      16 The “peace” policy and the return of territories, through a dependence upon the US, precludes the realization of the new option created for us. Since 1967, all the governments of Israel have tied our national aims down to narrow political needs, on the one hand, and on the other to destructive opinions at home which neutralized our capacities both at home and abroad. Failing to take steps towards the Arab population in the new territories, acquired in the course of a war forced upon us, is the major strategic error committed by Israel on the morning after the Six Day War. We could have saved ourselves all the bitter and dangerous conflict since then if we had given Jordan to the Palestinians who live west of the Jordan river. By doing that we would have neutralized the Palestinian problem which we nowadays face, and to which we have found solutions that are really no solutions at all, such as territorial compromise or autonomy which amount, in fact, to the same thing. 8 Today, we suddenly face immense opportunities for transforming the situation thoroughly and this we must do in the coming decade, otherwise we shall not survive as a state.

      17 In the course of the Nineteen Eighties, the State of Israel will have to go through far-reaching changes in its political and economic regime domestically, along with radical changes in its foreign policy, in order to stand up to the global and regional challenges of this new epoch. The loss of the Suez Canal oil fields, of the immense potential of the oil, gas and other natural resources in the Sinai peninsula which is geomorphologically identical to the rich oil-producing countries in the region, will result in an energy drain in the near future and will destroy our domestic economy: one quarter of our present GNP as well as one third of the budget is used for the purchase of oil. 9 The search for raw materials in the Negev and on the coast will not, in the near future, serve to alter that state of affairs.

      18 (Regaining) the Sinai peninsula with its present and potential resources is therefore a political priority which is obstructed by the Camp David and the peace agreements. The fault for that lies of course with the present Israeli government and the governments which paved the road to the policy of territorial compromise, the Alignment governments since 1967. The Egyptians will not need to keep the peace treaty after the return of the Sinai, and they will do all they can to return to the fold of the Arab world and to the USSR in order to gain support and military assistance. American aid is guaranteed only for a short while, for the terms of the peace and the weakening of the U.S. both at home and abroad will bring about a reduction in aid. Without oil and the income from it, with the present enormous expenditure, we will not be able to get through 1982 under the present conditions and we will have to act in order to return the situation to the status quo which existed in Sinai prior to Sadat’s visit and the mistaken peace agreement signed with him in March 1979. 10

      19 Israel has two major routes through which to realize this purpose, one direct and the other indirect. The direct option is the less realistic one because of the nature of the regime and government in Israel as well as the wisdom of Sadat who obtained our withdrawal from Sinai, which was, next to the war of 1973, his major achievement since he took power. Israel will not unilaterally break the treaty, neither today, nor in 1982, unless it is very hard pressed economically and politically and Egypt provides Israel with the excuse to take the Sinai back into our hands for the fourth time in our short history. What is left therefore, is the indirect option. The economic situation in Egypt, the nature of the regime and its pan-

      Arab policy, will bring about a situation after April 1982 in which Israel will be forced to act directly or indirectly in order to regain control over Sinai as a strategic, economic and energy reserve for the long run. Egypt does not constitute a military strategic problem due to its internal conflicts and it could be driven back to the post 1967 war situation in no more than one day. 11

      20 The myth of Egypt as the strong leader of the Arab World was demolished back in 1956 and definitely did not survive 1967, but our policy, as in the return of the Sinai, served to turn the myth into “fact.” In reality, however, Egypt’s power in proportion both to Israel alone and to the rest of the Arab World has gone down about 50 percent since 1967. Egypt is no longer the leading political power in the Arab World and is economically on the verge of a crisis. Without foreign assistance the crisis will come tomorrow. 12 In the short run, due to the return of the Sinai, Egypt will gain several advantages at our expense, but only in the short run until 1982, and that will not change the balance of power to its benefit, and will possibly bring about its downfall. Egypt, in its present domestic political picture, is already a corpse, all the more so if we take into account the growing Moslem-Christian rift. Breaking Egypt down territorially into distinct geographical regions is the political aim of Israel in the Nineteen Eighties on its Western front.

      • Helen4Yemen

        21 Egypt is divided and torn apart into many foci of authority. If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt. The vision of a Christian Coptic State in Upper Egypt alongside a number of weak states with very localized power and without a centralized government as to date, is the key to a historical development which was only set back by the peace agreement but which seems inevitable in the long run. 13

        22 The Western front, which on the surface appears more problematic, is in fact less complicated than the Eastern front, in which most of the events that make the headlines have been taking place recently. Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today. 14

        23 Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization. 15

        24 The entire Arabian peninsula is a natural candidate for dissolution due to internal and external pressures, and the matter is inevitable especially in Saudi Arabia. Regardless of whether its economic might based on oil remains intact or whether it is diminished in the long run, the internal rifts and breakdowns are a clear and natural development in light of the present political structure. 16

        25 Jordan constitutes an immediate strategic target in the short run but not in the long run, for it does not constitute a real threat in the long run after its dissolution, the termination of the lengthy rule of King Hussein and the transfer of power to the Palestinians in the short run.

        26 There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority. Changing the regime east of the river will also cause the termination of the problem of the territories densely populated with Arabs west of the Jordan. Whether in war or under conditions of peace, emigration from the territories and economic demographic freeze in them, are the guarantees for the coming change on both banks of the river, and we ought to be active in order to accelerate this process in the nearest future. The autonomy plan ought also to be rejected, as well as any compromise or division of the territories for, given the plans of the PLO and those of the Israeli Arabs themselves, the Shefa’amr plan of September 1980, it is not possible to go on living in this country in the present situation without separating the two nations, the Arabs to Jordan and the Jews to the areas west of the river. Genuine coexistence and peace will reign over the land only when the Arabs understand that without Jewish rule between the Jordan and the sea they will have neither existence nor security. A nation of their own and security will be theirs only in Jordan. 17

        27 Within Israel the distinction between the areas of ’67 and the territories beyond them, those of ’48, has always been meaningless for Arabs and nowadays no longer has any significance for us. The problem should be seen in its entirety without any divisions as of ’67. It should be clear, under any future political situation or military constellation, that the solution of the problem of the indigenous Arabs will come only when they recognize the existence of Israel in secure borders up to the Jordan river and beyond it, as our existential need in this difficult epoch, the nuclear epoch which we shall soon enter. It is no longer possible to live with three fourths of the Jewish population on the dense shoreline which is so dangerous in a nuclear epoch.

        28 Dispersal of the population is therefore a domestic strategic aim of the highest order; otherwise, we shall cease to exist within any borders. Judea, Samaria and the Galilee are our sole guarantee for national existence, and if we do not become the majority in the mountain areas, we shall not rule in the country and we shall be like the Crusaders, who lost this country which was not theirs anyhow, and in which they were foreigners to begin with. Rebalancing the country demographically, strategically and economically is the highest and most central aim today. Taking hold of the mountain watershed from Beersheba to the Upper Galilee is the national aim generated by the major strategic consideration which is settling the mountainous part of the country that is empty of Jews today. l8

        29 Realizing our aims on the Eastern front depends first on the realization of this internal strategic objective. The transformation of the political and economic structure, so as to enable the realization of these strategic aims, is the key to achieving the entire change. We need to change from a centralized economy in which the government is extensively involved, to an open and free market as well as to switch from depending upon the U.S. taxpayer to developing, with our own hands, of a genuine productive economic infrastructure. If we are not able to make this change freely and voluntarily, we shall be forced into it by world developments, especially in the areas of economics, energy, and politics, and by our own growing isolation. l9

        30 From a military and strategic point of view, the West led by the U.S. is unable to withstand the global pressures of the USSR throughout the world, and Israel must therefore stand alone in the Eighties, without any foreign assistance, military or economic, and this is within our capacities today, with no compromises. 20 Rapid changes in the world will also bring about a change in the condition of world Jewry to which Israel will become not only a last resort but the only existential option. We cannot assume that U.S. Jews, and the communities of Europe and Latin America will continue to exist in the present form in the future. 21

        31 Our existence in this country itself is certain, and there is no force that could remove us from here either forcefully or by treachery (Sadat’s method). Despite the difficulties of the mistaken “peace” policy and the problem of the Israeli Arabs and those of the territories, we can effectively deal with these problems in the foreseeable future.

        • Helen4Yemen

          About the Translator

          Israel Shahak is a professor of organic chemistly at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and the chairman of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights. He published The Shahak Papers, collections of key articles from the Hebrew press, and is the author of numerous articles and books, among them Non-Jew in the Jewish State. His latest book is Israel’s Global Role: Weapons for Repression, published by the AAUG in 1982. Israel Shahak: (1933-2001)

          Notes

          1. American Universities Field Staff. Report No.33, 1979. According to this research, the population of the world will be 6 billion in the year 2000. Today’s world population can be broken down as follows: China, 958 million; India, 635 million; USSR, 261 million; U.S., 218 million Indonesia, 140 million; Brazil and Japan, 110 million each. According to the figures of the U.N. Population Fund for 1980, there will be, in 2000, 50 cities with a population of over 5 million each. The population ofthp;Third World will then be 80% of the world population. According to Justin Blackwelder, U.S. Census Office chief, the world population will not reach 6 billion because of hunger.

          2. Soviet nuclear policy has been well summarized by two American Sovietologists: Joseph D. Douglas and Amoretta M. Hoeber, Soviet Strategy for Nuclear War, (Stanford, Ca., Hoover Inst. Press, 1979). In the Soviet Union tens and hundreds of articles and books are published each year which detail the Soviet doctrine for nuclear war and there is a great deal of documentation translated into English and published by the U.S. Air Force,including USAF: Marxism-Leninism on War and the Army: The Soviet View, Moscow, 1972; USAF: The Armed Forces of the Soviet State. Moscow, 1975, by Marshal A. Grechko. The basic Soviet approach to the matter is presented in the book by Marshal Sokolovski published in 1962 in Moscow: Marshal V. D. Sokolovski, Military Strategy, Soviet Doctrine and Concepts(New York, Praeger, 1963).

          3. A picture of Soviet intentions in various areas of the world can be drawn from the book by Douglas and Hoeber, ibid. For additional material see: Michael Morgan, “USSR’s Minerals as Strategic Weapon in the Future,” Defense and Foreign Affairs, Washington, D.C., Dec. 1979.

          4. Admiral of the Fleet Sergei Gorshkov, Sea Power and the State, London, 1979. Morgan, loc. cit. General George S. Brown (USAF) C-JCS, Statement to the Congress on the Defense Posture of the United States For Fiscal Year 1979, p. 103; National Security Council, Review of Non-Fuel Mineral Policy, (Washington, D.C. 1979,); Drew Middleton, The New York Times, (9/15/79); Time, 9/21/80.

          5. Elie Kedourie, “The End of the Ottoman Empire,” Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 3, No.4, 1968.

          6. Al-Thawra, Syria 12/20/79, Al-Ahram,12/30/79, Al Ba’ath, Syria, 5/6/79. 55% of the Arabs are 20 years old and younger, 70% of the Arabs live in Africa, 55% of the Arabs under 15 are unemployed, 33% live in urban areas, Oded Yinon, “Egypt’s Population Problem,” The Jerusalem Quarterly, No. 15, Spring 1980.

          7. E. Kanovsky, “Arab Haves and Have Nots,” The Jerusalem Quarterly, No.1, Fall 1976, Al Ba’ath, Syria, 5/6/79.

          8. In his book, former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin said that the Israeli government is in fact responsible for the design of American policy in the Middle East, after June ’67, because of its own indecisiveness as to the future of the territories and the inconsistency in its positions since it established the background for Resolution 242 and certainly twelve years later for the Camp David agreements and the peace treaty with Egypt. According to Rabin, on June 19, 1967, President Johnson sent a letter to Prime Minister Eshkol in which he did not mention anything about withdrawal from the new territories but exactly on the same day the government resolved to return territories in exchange for peace. After the Arab resolutions in Khartoum (9/1/67) the government altered its position but contrary to its decision of June 19, did not notify the U.S. of the alteration and the U.S. continued to support 242 in the Security Council on the basis of its earlier understanding that Israel is prepared to return territories. At that point it was already too late to change the U.S. position and Israel’s policy. From here the way was opened to peace agreements on the basis of 242 as was later agreed upon in Camp David. See Yitzhak Rabin. Pinkas Sherut, (Ma’ariv 1979) pp. 226-227.

          9. Foreign and Defense Committee Chairman Prof. Moshe Arens argued in an interview (Ma ‘ariv,10/3/80) that the Israeli government failed to prepare an economic plan before the Camp David agreements and was itself surprised by the cost of the agreements, although already during the negotiations it was possible to calculate the heavy price and the serious error involved in not having prepared the economic grounds for peace.

          The former Minister of Treasury, Mr. Yigal Holwitz, stated that if it were not for the withdrawal from the oil fields, Israel would have a positive balance of payments (9/17/80). That same person said two years earlier that the government of Israel (from which he withdrew) had placed a noose around his neck. He was referring to the Camp David agreements (Ha’aretz, 11/3/78). In the course of the whole peace negotiations neither an expert nor an economics advisor was consulted, and the Prime Minister himself, who lacks knowledge and expertise in economics, in a mistaken initiative, asked the U.S. to give us a loan rather than a grant, due to his wish to maintain our respect and the respect of the U.S. towards us. See Ha’aretz1/5/79. Jerusalem Post, 9/7/79. Prof Asaf Razin, formerly a senior consultant in the Treasury, strongly criticized the conduct of the negotiations; Ha’aretz, 5/5/79. Ma’ariv, 9/7/79. As to matters concerning the oil fields and Israel’s energy crisis, see the interview with Mr. Eitan Eisenberg, a government advisor on these matters, Ma’arive Weekly, 12/12/78. The Energy Minister, who personally signed the Camp David agreements and the evacuation of Sdeh Alma, has since emphasized the seriousness of our condition from the point of view of oil supplies more than once…see Yediot Ahronot, 7/20/79. Energy Minister Modai even admitted that the government did not consult him at all on the subject of oil during the Camp David and Blair House negotiations. Ha’aretz, 8/22/79.

          10. Many sources report on the growth of the armaments budget in Egypt and on intentions to give the army preference in a peace epoch budget over domestic needs for which a peace was allegedly obtained. See former Prime Minister Mamduh Salam in an interview 12/18/77, Treasury Minister Abd El Sayeh in an interview 7/25/78, and the paper Al Akhbar, 12/2/78 which clearly stressed that the military budget will receive first priority, despite the peace. This is what former Prime Minister Mustafa Khalil has stated in his cabinet’s programmatic document which was presented to Parliament, 11/25/78. See English translation, ICA, FBIS, Nov. 27. 1978, pp. D 1-10.

          According to these sources, Egypt’s military budget increased by 10% between fiscal 1977 and 1978, and the process still goes on. A Saudi source divulged that the Egyptians plan to increase their militmy budget by 100% in the next two years; Ha’aretz, 2/12/79 and Jerusalem Post, 1/14/79.

          11. Most of the economic estimates threw doubt on Egypt’s ability to reconstruct its economy by 1982. See Economic Intelligence Unit, 1978 Supplement, “The Arab Republic of Egypt”; E. Kanovsky, “Recent Economic Developments in the Middle East,” Occasional Papers, The Shiloah Institution, June 1977; Kanovsky, “The Egyptian Economy Since the Mid-Sixties, The Micro Sectors,” Occasional Papers, June 1978; Robert McNamara, President of World Bank, as reported in Times, London, 1/24/78.

          12. See the comparison made by the researeh of the Institute for Strategic Studies in London, and research camed out in the Center for Strategic Studies of Tel Aviv University, as well as the research by the British scientist, Denis Champlin, Military Review, Nov. 1979, ISS: The Military Balance 1979-1980, CSS; Security Arrangements in Sinai…by Brig. Gen. (Res.) A Shalev, No. 3.0 CSS; The Military Balance and the Military Options after the Peace Treaty with Egypt, by Brig. Gen. (Res.) Y. Raviv, No.4, Dec. 1978, as well as many press reports including El Hawadeth, London, 3/7/80; El Watan El Arabi, Paris, 12/14/79.

          13. As for religious ferment in Egypt and the relations between Copts and Moslems see the series of articles published in the Kuwaiti paper, El Qabas, 9/15/80. The English author Irene Beeson reports on the rift between Moslems and Copts, see: Irene Beeson, Guardian, London, 6/24/80, and Desmond Stewart, Middle East Internmational, London 6/6/80. For other reports see Pamela Ann Smith, Guardian, London, 12/24/79; The Christian Science Monitor 12/27/79 as well as Al Dustour, London, 10/15/79; El Kefah El Arabi, 10/15/79.

          14. Arab Press Service, Beirut, 8/6-13/80. The New Republic, 8/16/80, Der Spiegel as cited by Ha’aretz, 3/21/80, and 4/30-5/5/80; The Economist, 3/22/80; Robert Fisk, Times, London, 3/26/80; Ellsworth Jones, Sunday Times, 3/30/80.

          15. J.P. Peroncell Hugoz, Le Monde, Paris 4/28/80; Dr. Abbas Kelidar, Middle East Review, Summer 1979;

          Conflict Studies, ISS, July 1975; Andreas Kolschitter, Der Zeit, (Ha’aretz, 9/21/79) Economist Foreign Report, 10/10/79, Afro-Asian Affairs, London, July 1979.

          16. Arnold Hottinger, “The Rich Arab States in Trouble,” The New York Review of Books, 5/15/80; Arab Press Service, Beirut, 6/25-7/2/80; U.S. News and World Report, 11/5/79 as well as El Ahram, 11/9/79; El Nahar El Arabi Wal Duwali, Paris 9/7/79; El Hawadeth, 11/9/79; David Hakham, Monthly Review, IDF, Jan.-Feb. 79.

          17. As for Jordan’s policies and problems see El Nahar El Arabi Wal Duwali, 4/30/79, 7/2/79; Prof. Elie Kedouri, Ma’ariv 6/8/79; Prof. Tanter, Davar 7/12/79; A. Safdi, Jerusalem Post, 5/31/79; El Watan El Arabi 11/28/79; El Qabas, 11/19/79. As for PLO positions see: The resolutions of the Fatah Fourth Congress, Damascus, August 1980. The Shefa’amr program of the Israeli Arabs was published in Ha’aretz, 9/24/80, and by Arab Press Report 6/18/80. For facts and figures on immigration of Arabs to Jordan, see Amos Ben Vered, Ha’aretz, 2/16/77; Yossef Zuriel, Ma’ariv 1/12/80. As to the PLO’s position towards Israel see Shlomo Gazit, Monthly Review; July 1980; Hani El Hasan in an interview, Al Rai Al’Am, Kuwait 4/15/80; Avi Plaskov, “The Palestinian Problem,” Survival, ISS, London Jan. Feb. 78; David Gutrnann, “The Palestinian Myth,” Commentary, Oct. 75; Bernard Lewis, “The Palestinians and the PLO,” Commentary Jan. 75; Monday Morning, Beirut, 8/18-21/80; Journal of Palestine Studies, Winter 1980.

          18. Prof. Yuval Neeman, “Samaria–The Basis for Israel’s Security,” Ma’arakhot 272-273, May/June 1980; Ya’akov Hasdai, “Peace, the Way and the Right to Know,” Dvar Hashavua, 2/23/80. Aharon Yariv, “Strategic Depth–An Israeli Perspective,” Ma’arakhot 270-271, October 1979; Yitzhak Rabin, “Israel’s Defense Problems in the Eighties,” Ma’arakhot October 1979.

          19. Ezra Zohar, In the Regime’s Pliers (Shikmona, 1974); Motti Heinrich, Do We have a Chance Israel, Truth Versus Legend (Reshafim, 1981).

          20. Henry Kissinger, “The Lessons of the Past,” The Washington Review Vol 1, Jan. 1978; Arthur Ross, “OPEC’s Challenge to the West,” The Washington Quarterly, Winter, 1980; Walter Levy, “Oil and the Decline of the West,” Foreign Affairs, Summer 1980; Special Report–”Our Armed Forees-Ready or Not?” U.S. News and World Report 10/10/77; Stanley Hoffman, “Reflections on the Present Danger,” The New York Review of Books 3/6/80; Time 4/3/80; Leopold Lavedez “The illusions of SALT” Commentary Sept. 79; Norman Podhoretz, “The Present Danger,” Commentary March 1980; Robert Tucker, “Oil and American Power Six Years Later,” Commentary Sept. 1979; Norman Podhoretz, “The Abandonment of Israel,” Commentary July 1976; Elie Kedourie, “Misreading the Middle East,” Commentary July 1979.

          21. According to figures published by Ya’akov Karoz, Yediot Ahronot, 10/17/80, the sum total of anti-Semitic incidents recorded in the world in 1979 was double the amount recorded in 1978. In Germany, France, and Britain the number of anti-Semitic incidents was many times greater in that year. In the U.S. as well there has been a sharp increase in anti-Semitic incidents which were reported in that article. For the new anti-Semitism, see L. Talmon, “The New Anti-Semitism,” The New Republic, 9/18/1976; Barbara Tuchman, “They poisoned the Wells,” Newsweek 2/3/75.

  • Steve Amos

    In 1975 the UN General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which said “Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination”. According to the resolution, “any doctrine of racial differentiation of superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust, and dangerous.” The resolution named the occupied territory of Palestine, Zimbabwe, and South Africa as examples of racist regimes.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Deuteronomy 13:6-10 Someone else may say to you, “Let’s worship other gods.” That person may be your best friend, your brother or sister, your son or daughter, or your own dear wife or husband. But you must not listen to people who say such things. Instead, you must stone them to death. You must be the first to throw the stones, then others from the community will finish the job. Don’t show any pity. The gods worshiped by other nations have never done anything for you or your ancestors. People who ask you to worship other gods are trying to get you to stop worshiping the Lord, who rescued you from slavery in Egypt. So put to death anyone who asks you to worship another god.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Abraham and his descendants kept their blood pure and only married only their nieces, nephews and cousins. Therefore, DNA can only find them to be 100% of Ur genetic origin and not of Palestine. Yes or no?

  • Steve Amos

    Seeing the reports out of Gaza in 2014 was heart breaking, a turning point for me, not just me either, the utter did regard for humanity was overwhelming, you guys murdered 500 kids there, I work with kids and have my own. remember when the UN told the IDF about safe zones for civilians that were being monitored to ensure they weren’t being used by Hammas, and the IDF bombed them. I think 2014 spelt the destruction of Israel as it exists today, no one can defend such action. I tell you hand on heart I wept.

    • A.S.F.

      Speaking of children and the Gaza Offensive of 2014, you know what is really heart-breaking? That the obligatory straw that broke the camel’s back (so to speak) and drew Israel into that one of a series of conflicts with Hamas in the Gaza was the absolutely inhumane murder of three Jewish teenagers whose crime that marked them for one-on-one up-close slaughter by Hamas militants who then left their bodies to moulder under some rocks in the desert was that they were Jewish…that’s it and that’s all. The increasing barrage of rocket fire into Israel’s backyard that showed a similar (and quite calculated) disregard for Israeli children was the lead up to a cataclysm that was all but inevitable, given the Palestinian’s apartheid and genocidal intentions towards Israel and Jews. The fact is, we will never know the true number of Palestinian casualties because the numbers came from the Hamas Ministry, which is so bereft of any concern for human values that they kept the bodies of Palestinian children on ice–literally–so they could schlepp them out for the ever-rolling cameras again and again…and who also tightly controlled where those cameras could go and what they were recording. We will also never know how many of those children were actually killed by errant Hamas rocket fire, since Hamas habitually set up their launchers in crowded Palestinian civilian centers and stored said rockets in UNWRA schools, private residences and mosques. And ,as I mentioned before, Israel went to lengths that no other combatant army in the world or in history had gone to to try to keep civilian casualties down, by “roof-knocking”, leaflet-dropping, telephoning apartment buildings, schools. shelters and residences to warn of areas that they were forced to strike in order take out the munitions that Hamas was amassing–which, as I already noted, were purposefully being stored in civilian areas, no matter how that endangered the Palestinian populace–and all those children you referred to. And since then, Hamas has been building terror tunnel after terror tunnel, much if it using child labor. They are NOT building bomb shelters for the Palestinian populace although they do not stint in building underground bunkers for senior Hamas militants to hole up in. If you want to weep Palestinian children–as many of us do, weep for their self-destructive decision of their parents and elders to remain under the heels of a terrorist governmental regime hell-bent on their own Jihadist quest for power and domination, with very little concern that the consequences of that will have on Palestinian children, let alone what the cost of that will be for every single human being in the area in question. Me thinks your “tears” are crocodile tears, since you seem to have little interest in doing what it really would take to improve the health, safety and welfare of the Palestinian people. The destruction of Israel is what you are after…not safe-guarding the futures of Palestinian children.

      • scorpion

        Israel has no right to exist, and the only reason those children were put on ice is because scum were busy bombing the hospitals. There are no terror tunnels, they are used to smuggle goods, and yes to attack the Israeli soldiers despite the crap you have been drip fed.

        • A.S.F.

          They were put on ice so they could be repeatedly be schlepped out on stretchers for the ever-rolling cameras that the Hamas Ministry made sure were strategically in place. Your insistence on saying that there “are no terror tunnels” is all that needs be said about you. Plenty of documentation exists about that–including one very famous picture of Ban Ki-moon touring one. Hamas is proud of those tunnels–they have supplied plenty of pictures of them themselves and they have admitted to militants and Palestinian civilians being killed in their ongoing construction. Egypt, as well as Israel have been trying to take them out by flooding them. Some of the tunnels have been equipped with handcuffs and other supplies meant to assist in the taking of hostages for later prisoner exchange, such as boxes of sedatives. Israelis who live close to the borders are continually assaulted by the noises, rumblings and booms made in their ongoing construction. I don’t fear the results of the crap YOU have been fed for your own sake because cockroaches will eat anything to survive.

  • scorpion

    Could equally apply to you!

  • A.S.F.

    Untrue. PATENTLY untrue. Most of the Israelis spend an unfortunate amount of time on bomb shelters when Hamas rockets rain on THEM. And any Jew who gets killed as a result of Palestinian terror is mourned by the Palestinians with parades in the streets while the terrorist and/or his surviving family members get “stipends” , the more Jews killed in the attack, the larger the amount of the stipend. You really can’t make such self-righteously moral suppositions against Israel without it boomeranging on you out of sheer hypocrisy alone.

  • Neutralone

    Discus never notified me of your above reply to me. I have accidently discovered it just now.

    Your whole comment is based upon lies and misinformation. Your reference is to the wars between Hamas and Israel, ALWAYS FOUGHT in retaliation for the years of Gaza rocket attacks which caused physical and psychological damage as well as some deaths. The residents felt terrorized and victimized, and therefore pressured the Israeli government to eliminate the threat. To them, the fighting by THEIR side was welcome relief and SOME of those residents witnessed the warfare and cheered when their side was successful. THAT is the cheering , by perhaps 1000 people, which you describe as 95% of Israelis.

    What a crock.

    Albert Einstein DID NOT write against Zionism. He was against what he perceived as extremism by a party formed by Menachim Begin. This portion of your reply is also “a crock”.

  • Freespirit

    The LAST 4 LETTERS of AshkeNAZI………..are……you guessed it NAZI so thanks for noticing

    • Jack

      You got your answer Nazi Jew Hater , now get lost !

      • Freespirit

        I was simply responding to YOUR starting a conversation with me, in that comment, just above, in the form of, what you thought, was something intelligent..

        Never start something with THIS GOYIM, you cannot finish Mr. Ashkenazi, NAZI

        • Jack

          Freespirit the Shia Jihadist, Google translate from your arabic sounds stupid

          • Freespirit

            You’re welcome

  • Neutralone

    What percent of Ashkenazi Jews actually develop schizophrenia? What percent of non Ashkenazi Jews and gentiles actually develop schizophrenia? Do you even have a clue?

    BTW, schizophrenia is NOTsplit personality