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Majority of Brits think UK should recognise Palestine as a state

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A majority of the British public believe the UK should recognise Palestine as a state, according to the results of a new YouGov poll published Monday.

53 percent of respondents said they agree with such a step, as opposed to just 14 percent who disagreed (33 percent said they were ‘neutral’).

Responding to the poll, Manuel Hassassian, Palestinian ambassador to the UK, said public opinion has been shifting. “I have been here for 11 years and have noticed dramatic changes in the British public’s views on Palestine”, he said.

“That only 14 percent say they wouldn’t want the Palestinian state to receive recognition is an indication of the Palestinian cause worldwide being accepted”, he added.

Read: UK gives £150m to PA in five years, rebuffing pressure by pro-Israel groups

The poll also addressed views amongst the British public towards the Balfour Declaration, whose centenary will be marked in November.

According to the poll, opinion is deeply divided over the Balfour Declaration: 32 percent of Brits think it is something to be proud of, while 27 percent consider it “something to be regretted” (and 41 percent selected ‘Neither’).

The poll also revealed a partisan divide, with a striking plurality (32 percent) of those who voted Labour in the last election viewing the Balfour Declaration as something to be regretted. Among Conservative voters, on the other hand, 40 percent view the historical document with pride, and only 21 percent with regret.

The poll also asked whether, “given Britain’s historic role”, the country has “a particular responsibility to help sort out the Israeli-Palestinian conflict now”, to which 55 percent responded ‘No’, and 45 percent answered ‘Yes’.

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  • charliematerne

    Recognize a “state” that in reality does not exist. “Palestine” has no recognized Treaty Borders, no government an ability to enter into binding International Agreements or Treaties. It would be like recognizing a ghost.

    • Helen4Yemen

      The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl – vol 3 page 1023

      “In the first excitement I wanted to write to Eulenburg and make

      proposals in case it was true. Germany would then have to

      welcome a Jewish settlement on Cyprus with delight. We would

      rally on Cyprus and one day go over to Eretz Israel and take it

      by force, as it was taken from us long ago.”

      ______________
      Can you please tell me how

      a) a Hungarian Jew thought the land belonged to Europeans?

      )b) who took the land by force from Hungarians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians?

    • Helen4Yemen

      Is the Ashkenazi:

      a) 100% European

      b) 100% Israelite

      c) 50/50% European/Israelite

      d) 75/25% European/Israelite

      e) 25/75% European/Israelite

      f) 99/0% European/Israelite

      g) 0/99% European/Israelite

      Only one is the correct answer. Which one?

      • OOTrist

        No Israelite blood in Ashkenazim as you well know. But let me ask you a question Helen. After the removal to Assyria of several million Israelites (a process that took 19 years ending in 721BC) and after their escape and dispersement some 50 years later, where did they go, and where are they to be found today?

        • Helen4Yemen

          You tell me! But the Ashkenazi is one of the most purebred of any Europeans at 99.9% European ancestry.

          Alan Dershowitz DNA
          99.9% European
          0% Middle Eastern

          https://web.archive.ORG/web/20170605012758/https://www-tc.pbs.ORG/weta/finding-your-roots/files/2014/11/AlanDershowitzDNA.jpg

          • OOTrist

            They became known as the Sacae, Scythians, Cimmerians, Gallie, Gauls (the Greeks called them Celts) and they over the next few hundred years migrated into Europe by way of the Caucasus Mountains and became known as Caucasians. They later became known as the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Danes, Belgae, Lombards and Franks etc. Any of these name ring a bell? They settled in the western seaboard of Europe, and the British Isles. The last of this group arrived in Britain as the Normans (North-men) in 1066. They are racially connected and can trace their ancestry to their Assyrian captivity. NO Jews here, only descendants of the northern 10 tribes of ancient Israel. Judah and Benjamin (from which come the Jews of the 1st century) were taken to Babylon around 600BC, some later returned to Jerusalem 70 years later. The Jews were crushed by Rome on 70AD, survivors went to Spain.

            So, you are incorrect to assume Israelites in your DNA mix. There were no Israelites in this region of Europe at the time the Khazars (certainly not Israelites) adopted Judaism in the 8th century and who later became the Ashkenazim of Eastern Europe. So, what is your ancestry, Helen?

          • Helen4Yemen

            https://i.imgur.COM/jXc43m0.png

            Got any DNA evidence to support your claim like I am showing above?

          • OOTrist

            There is more than enough to prove a case, in fact they were among the first DNA tests to show a racial ancestry of any people. But as usual all you want to do is be argumentative, and you miss the point. The truth of the matter is I don’t need a single drop of DNA evidence to support this ‘claim’ as you call it, it is simply a matter of history, which apart from Lowenthall on Herzl you seem to know little about. Bye Helen.

          • Helen4Yemen

            No evidence? Just talk, huh?

          • OOTrist

            No wonder people attack you on this site. Go in peace.

          • Helen4Yemen

            so, I am now the bad person for asking for evidence?

    • Helen4Yemen

      “In the first excitement I wanted to write to Eulenburg and make

      proposals in case it was true. Germany would then have to

      welcome a Jewish settlement on Cyprus with delight. We would

      rally on Cyprus and one day go over to Eretz Israel and take it

      by force, as it was taken from us long ago.”

      The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl – vol 3 page 1023
      ________________

      The Hungarian really believed that his Hungarian ^ss was

      somehow connected to Palestine. What are the chances that

      anyone at confirmed DNA of 0% can have any genetic ties to

      Palestine? Is has to be zero%, right?

      Neil Gaiman DNA
      99.9% European
      0% Middle Eastern
      https://twitter.COM/neilhimself/status/278035051210498048

    • Helen4Yemen

      And the Yiddish-speaking Ashkenazi arrived and seized the land.

      Is Palestine his Ukranian or Hungarian grandmother’s land?

      The shameless white man even claims ancestry from the region,

      does he not? But DNA says his white European ^ss is totally deficient

      in Middle East DNA – like in ZERO%!

      Tony Kushner DNA
      99.9% European
      0% Middle Eastern
      https://web.archive.ORG/web/20170605012800/https://www-tc.pbs.ORG/weta/finding-your-roots/files/2014/11/KushnerDNA.jpg

    • ricck lineheart

      It is like recognizing a Jew ?

      • OOTrist

        Very good.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Benny Morris interview – Haaretz – 2004
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      “The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on
      many documents that were not available to me when I
      wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel
      Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is
      that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre
      than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were
      also many cases of rape. In the months of
      April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state
      defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given
      operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to
      uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages
      themselves.
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      In Acre four soldiers raped a girl and murdered her
      and her father. In Jaffa, soldiers of the Kiryati Brigade
      raped one girl and tried to rape several
      more. At Hunin, which is in the Galilee, two girls were
      raped and then murdered. There were one or two
      cases of rape at Tantura, south of Haifa. There was
      one case of rape at Qula, in the center of the
      country. At the village of Abu Shusha, near Kibbutz Gezer
      [in the Ramle area] there were four female prisoners, one
      of whom was raped a number of times. And there
      were other cases. Usually more than one soldier was
      involved. usually there were one or two Palestinian
      girls. In a large proportion of the cases the event
      ended with murder. Because neither the victims nor the
      rapists liked to report these events, we have to assume that
      the dozen cases of rape that were reported, which
      I found, are not the whole story. They are just the tip of the
      iceberg.”
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      In some cases four or five people were executed, in others
      the numbers were 70, 80, 100. There was also a great deal
      of arbitrary killing. Two old men are spotted walking in a
      field – they are shot. A woman is found in an abandoned
      village – she is shot. There are cases such as the village of
      Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column
      entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything
      that moved.
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      “The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin
      (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and perhaps
      Abu Shusha (70). There is no unequivocal proof of a
      large-scale massacre at Tantura, but war crimes
      were perpetrated there. At Jaffa there was a
      massacre about which nothing had been known
      until now. The same at Arab al Muwassi, in the north.
      About half of the acts of massacre were part of
      Operation Hiram [in the north, in October 1948]: at Safsaf,
      Saliha, Jish, Eilaboun, Arab al Muwasi, Deir al Asad, Majdal
      Krum, Sasa. In Operation Hiram there was a unusually high
      concentration of executions of people against a wall or next
      to a well in an orderly fashion.
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      “That can’t be chance. It’s a pattern. Apparently, various
      officers who took part in the operation understood that the
      expulsion order they received permitted them to do these
      deeds in order to encourage the population to take to the
      roads. The fact is that no one was punished for these acts
      of murder. Ben-Gurion silenced the matter. He covered up
      for the officers who did the massacres.”
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      One of the revelations in the book is that on October 31,
      1948, the commander of the Northern Front, Moshe
      Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite
      the removal of the Arab population. Carmel took this action
      immediately after a visit by Ben-Gurion to the Northern
      Command in Nazareth. There is no doubt in my mind that
      this order originated with Ben-Gurion. Just as the expulsion
      order for the city of Lod, which was signed by Yitzhak
      Rabin, was issued immediately after Ben-Gurion visited the
      headquarters of Operation Dani [July 1948].”
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      “From April 1948, Ben-Gurion is projecting a message of
      transfer. There is no explicit order of his in writing, there is
      no orderly comprehensive policy, but there is an
      atmosphere of [population] transfer. The transfer idea is in
      the air. The entire leadership understands that this is the
      idea. The officer corps understands what is required of
      them. Under Ben-Gurion, a consensus of transfer is
      created.”
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      “Of course Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood
      that there could be no Jewish state with a large and hostile
      Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It
      would not be able to exist.”
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      “Ben-Gurion was right. If he had not done what he did, a
      state would not have come into being. That has to be clear.
      It is impossible to evade it. Without the uprooting of the
      Palestinians, a Jewish state would not have arisen here.”
      That is what Zionism faced. A Jewish state would not have
      come into being without the uprooting of 700,000
      Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them.
      There was no choice but to expel that population. It was
      necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border
      areas and cleanse the main roads.
      ……………………………………………………………………..

      https://www.counterpunch.ORG/2004/01/16/an-interview-with-benny-morris/

  • Fred Mace

    Recognising Palestine? Since when was Palestine needs recognition? Kick the alien terrorists out and give the land bank to its lawful owners, the Arabs, simple. The question then becomes who would harbour the menace?

  • D Laurier Beaulieu

    Given that the British government is responsible for the ongoing persecution of the Palestinian people, having betrayed them in 1916,
    massacred their leaders and colonized them in 1919,
    plundered and raped them from 1920 untill 1942,
    and sold their country out from under them in 1947…
    Maybe they should take the lead in atonement.

    • OOTrist

      Point well made. When they have attended to righting this wrong maybe they could move on to Arabia and assist the Shammar in the return of their lands stolen by the Saudis and the British in 1921.

      • Helen4Yemen

        You seem to want the white European to keep clinging to stolen

        Arab land? What have the Palestinians got to do with what the

        Saudis may or may not have done? The questions is why is the

        whitest of all the European peoples claiming to be indigenous to

        that land? What are the chances of anyone at 0% Middle East

        ancestry having any ancestry to that land? Logic would dictate

        that he his claim is 100% bogus.

        Tony Kushner DNA
        99.9% European
        0% Middle Eastern

        https://web.archive.ORG/web/20170605012800/https://www-tc.pbs.ORG/weta/finding-your-roots/files/2014/11/KushnerDNA.jpg

        • OOTrist

          I think you need a new seeing eye dog, Helen the one you have clearly can’t read.

    • ricck lineheart

      British idea of ” Sorting things out . ” are just as you described .

  • Helen4Yemen

    What does the Ashkenazi look like? Did you not know?

    What else but swarthy, olive, Middle Eastern, Mediterranean

    Italian. Listen, the Ashenazi is the palest of all white Europeans,

    but is there a law that says once cannot engage in fantasy, in

    delusion, in wishful thinking?

    Here is looking at the Ashkenazi:

    https://disqus.COM/home/discussion/channel-semite/what_do_jews_look_like/

  • ricck lineheart

    Apartheid and genocide hand in hand with Israel …

  • How many Americans and Canadians think likewise, I wonder?