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Britain should apologise for the Balfour Declaration, not ‘celebrate’ it

Photo taken during the Nakba
Photo taken during the 1948 Nakba [file photo]

The Balfour Declaration is a letter from the then British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Walter Rothschild, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The critical part of this short letter said: “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

This was a prime example of colonial arrogance by which Britain, which was not then in occupation of Palestine, promised the Zionist Federation, which did not represent all Jews, without the consent of the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine, the Palestinians, to facilitate the creation of a homeland for Jews in Palestine. The letter was dated 2 November 1917.

Thus, November 2017 will mark the centenary of Balfour and rumours abound that the British government plans to mark it in some form. Israel’s recently arrived Ambassador Mark Regev claimed: “It’s being taken very seriously at the highest levels. We’re hoping to do a public celebration together with the British government.” The former spokesman for Israel’s prime minister talked up the possible events, saying that “senior leadership from both sides [will be] uniting to celebrate Balfour.”

Former British Prime Minster David Cameron told leaders of the Jewish community, “I want to make sure we mark it together in the most appropriate way.” He said this without any consultation with British Palestinians about whether, and how, they would wish to see the Balfour centenary commemorated. This seems to be at best misguided and, at worst, a demonstration of Britain’s double standards when it comes to the Palestine-Israel issue. Israel was not established on empty land; it has been built on the homeland of the Palestinian people. How then can it be logical for the British government not to consult the Palestinians, either in Palestine or in the UK, about the Balfour centenary?

The notion that Britain should “celebrate” the Balfour Declaration is extremely offensive to every British Palestinian I have talked to and to the Palestinian leadership. Balfour gave the green light to the Zionist movement, which perpetuated the lie that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land”. The truth is that Jews, like Muslims and Christians, were citizens of many countries, including Syria and Iraq, and Palestine was inhabited by a people, the mainly Muslim but also Christian and Jewish, Palestinians. Had Israel not been created in Palestine, it is quite logical to assume that Palestine would have eventually gained independence and that Arab Jews, just like their Christian and Muslim brethren, would have continued to live in all the Arab countries in which they had thrived for centuries.

The Balfour Declaration and Britain’s League of Nations Mandate rule in Palestine were key reasons for the growth of Jewish migration to Palestine, which accelerated following the Second World War and the Holocaust. The creation of Israel as Britain rushed to abandon Palestine left the Palestinians at the mercy of murderous Zionist terror groups hell-bent on expelling as many if not all of them from their homeland. The injustice felt in the Middle East at the creation of Israel also contributed to the tensions that led to Arab Jews leaving their home countries for the nascent Zionist state.

The injustice of the lack of a viable Palestinian state and the continuing refugee catastrophe continues to this day. How can Britain celebrate this? Even if Britain claims that it is not “celebrating” Balfour, but simply “marking” the document’s centenary, that will also offend Palestinians living under Israel’s military occupation in Palestine, and in the refugee camps of Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, as well as the diaspora.

If fair minded people read the text of the Balfour Declaration and then look at what happened subsequently, they will surely find it difficult to accept that the conditions implicit in the British government’s “favour” have been fulfilled. Israel brazenly flouts the “civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine” on a daily basis, and has done since its creation in 1948. Its illegal occupation continues to oppress, humiliate and generate hatred. Israel’s siege on the Gaza Strip — described by David Cameron as “a prison” — continues unabated. House demolitions in the first half of 2016 are already markedly up on 2015. Settler violence has escalated and Jewish terror has taken the lives of Palestinians in the West Bank and Jerusalem.

The fact is that Britain has not even recognised Palestine as a state following the October 2014 Parliamentary vote requesting the government to do so. Add to this that 2017 also marks the 50th anniversary of the occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza and other Arab land and Israel’s refusal to end this, and it is obvious that any reasonable person would say that a “celebration” of the Balfour Declaration would be completely inappropriate. If you do something shameful, as Britain did, from a Palestinian perspective, then you would do far better to apologise for it than to mark or celebrate it.

The argument for a celebration of Balfour is that the Jewish community in Britain see the creation of Israel as a major achievement in which the declaration played a major part. However, not all British Jews share this view. Has the government consulted widely even within the Jewish community about possible Balfour events? There is no evidence that it has. If it does mark the centenary in some way then it should know that there will be many Jews in Britain siding with the oppressed Palestinians to mark the Catastrophe (Nakba) that the creation of the state of Israel represents to them. Discussions among Palestinian groups in Britain and supporters of justice for Palestine are ongoing in order to formulate a suitable response to the governments’ intentions.

Meanwhile, the Palestinian leadership has finally stirred itself and threatened to sue Britain for the Balfour Declaration. What that really means and to which court the Palestinians would make a case remains unknown. It may be yet prove to be another example of the Palestinian leadership making grandiose claims which lead to nothing and are then retracted. This, though, remains to be seen.

As we approach 2017 with Israel entrenching its military occupation of Palestine and senior politicians articulating their rejection of a Palestinian state, Britain should avoid inflaming the situation by marking Balfour in any way. A more helpful act would be to establish an inquiry into Britain’s role in the creation of Israel and dispossession of the Palestinian people. Its role would be to establish the facts and to assess how justice can be brought to the Holy Land as the Balfour centenary approaches. This would be far better than “celebrating” what is indeed a dark chapter of Britain’s colonial history.

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  • Mike Abramov

    May I comment on the following:

    ‘Had Israel not been created in Palestine, it is quite logical to assume that Palestine would have eventually gained independence and that Arab Jews, just like their Christian and Muslim brethren, would have continued to live in all the Arab countries in which they had thrived for centuries’.

    The Arabs in Palestine HAD been granted statehood by way of Trans Jordan amounting to 85% of the designated area. The simple truth is that the Palestinian Arabs did not vie for statehood after 1917. They vied for a Palestine free of European Jews. Consequently, the Arabs failed to see the wood for the trees. and vented their anger against the British instead of focusing on accepting a changing world. This is the reason why since 1948 the Palestinians have turned down every peace deal and land agreement.

    • Reid Iford

      Typical Zionist lies. Sorry. The world has had enough. Time to pack your bags, go back home, get a job, and start earning a living. Leaching off the People of Palestine is coming to an end.

      • Mike Abramov

        Sir/Madam – I don’t know where you get your information from, but under the UN resolution in 1948, democratically agreed, the Jews got 15% and the Arabs got 85%. The Arabs did not want JEWS in Palestine. The argument against the Jews was purely racial. Prior to that, the British mandate had been in place sine 1919. Prior to that there was 400 years of Ottoman occupation of 100% of Palestine. By making the comments above, it is blatantly clear that you too have a problem with Jews.

        As for the reconstructed history about Nazis and Zionists in discussion in 1935. There were many such discussions not to adhere to the Nazis in any way but simply to save Jewish lives. Read about Rudolf Katzner in Hungary in 1944 if you don’t believe me.

        • Mehamed Kaddih

          stop lying you hasbara liar !!!! at that time all the nations were under european colonization by whit Europeans. the rest of the world had no say in agreeing to white english colonizer stealing land from Palestine, and giving it european bankers so called jews

          • Eric11210

            Somebody obviously has never read a history book.

        • Helen4Yemen

          GET THIS: Arab Jews are the brothers and sisters of the Arab people but only CORELIGIONISTS of Ashkenazi European Jews. Arabs Jews lived in peace and harmony while European Jews were hated for centuries. The arrival of the foreign non-Semitic Ashkenazi Jews from Europe to Arab Palestine disturbed the peaceful coexistence of all Arabs. A curse!

          • Eric11210

            Actually, that is a lie: nytimeS.Com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html?_r=0

          • Helen4Yemen

            =>Go away =>not interested==>

          • Eric11210

            Yes, we all know you hate facts.

          • James Mendelsohn

            And Jews.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Excellent! Perfect!

      • Mike Abramov

        Reid – you are entitled to your opinion, but I will not be called a liar. Judging by your icon-photo, how can I take you seriously if you cannot even appear normal.

        I am sorry, but historic facts are facts. At no point have you referred to the billions of dollars that Hamas and the PA have shoved in to their back pockets. Nor have you mentioned that occupation is a choice because if Palestine becomes independent, the UN will review it’s funding policy from charity to the criteria of economic support.

        Yasar Arafat, who was an Egyptian, died with $8,000,000 in the bank. Where did that come from? It is not Israel that is the enemy but the very people that call themselves the leaders of the Palestinian people.

        • Reid Iford

          More Zionist lies. I suppose you also blame the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto fotr making the Nazis break a sweat clearing them out. “Israel” is a colonial occupier, carrying out an ongoing 68 year long genocide of the innocent People of Palestine.

          “Israel” does not fear weapons. They have nuclear and chemical arsenals, and have proven time and time again they will use their weapons of mass destructution against innocent civilians. And of course, they have no qualms about mass murdering innocent Americans, like the crew of the USS Liberty.

          What “Israel” fears is far simpler,m yet unimaginably miore powerful than even their nuclear bombs.

          They fear the truth. This explains ther desperate attempts to silence their ever growing numbers of critics.

          The old policy of lies and deceit is collapsing under the weight of the Internet, which al last allows the truth to be told, despite Zionist control of corporate media.

          TIme for Zionists to retire their storm troopers, pack their bags, and go find honest work in whatever country will have them.

          The last colonial occupation is ending. Palestine will be free.

          • Mike Abramov

            Sir – judging by your rabid and irrational view of Israel and the Palestinians, I suggest you see a psychiatrist.

    • Blake

      They did twice promise Palestinians self determination – in 1915 (McMahon Agreement) and 1939 (White Paper)

      • Mike Abramov

        Blake – Self determination was always there for the Palestinians. However, the likes of Al Husseini, unlike his brother or his father, did not want Jews in Palestine which resulted in the 1936 rebellion against the British. Then in 1948, 5 countries waged war on Israel, which they lost. The Naqba (disaster) is from that period. Since then, the Palestinian Arabs have never accepted a state of Israel except for the Arabs that live quite happily with-in the borders of the state of Israel.

        • Mehamed Kaddih

          what kind of people in the world would want to share their home land with white European colonizers stealing and raping their land, all because they claim some god promised it to them. which probably means Balfour is their god

          • Mike Abramov

            Dear all commentators. it is blatantly clear that the pro-Palestine protagonists are quite racist and anti-Semitic. Expressions like White Europeans should never be used in this debate unless you are right-wing Nazis or left-wing Communists

          • Blake

            Just because you identify as ‘jewish’ and squat in Palestine and hate the goyim do stop projecting your own obvious ugly qualities on human beings

          • Helen4Yemen

            What race does ‘the Jew’ belong to? Got a name?

          • Skeptikc

            How about, Khazar (majority- 80% of Jew genes per the Jewish Encyclopaedia), 20% Semite, and a tiny percentage of Ethiopian and others…

        • Blake

          This victim playing of impostors is annoying. Am so tired of giving rational sane factual replies to natural born lying oppressor propagandists. See the same ‘talking points’ a million times a day. I always know whats coming too. Its like you have all come off the same production line of stupidity. If you dont want to apologise for your crimes against humanity – and blame your crimes on the victims – dont expect human beings to give you the reassurances you have a right to exist at expense of those you stole the land from. You didnt go to assimilate with the indigenous people you went to amass weapons and dispossess them of their land because they werent Jewish. The fact 20% are native is only because Ben Gurion always wanted the stolen land to be at least 80% ‘Jewish’ – and the only reason why they were given ‘citizenship’ is because to get into the UN ‘israel’ had to do that – although there are 4 conditions you havent adhered to so should be expelled. Stop wasting my time. I am done wasting my valuable time on the likes like yourself in denial.

          • Eric11210

            You stretch the definition of human beings considering what kind of a sick monster you are.

          • Mike Abramov

            Blake – I am sorry to have to say this, but you are living on another planet. Are you so blissfully unaware that Mahatma Gandhi did NOT want the partition of India. This was a racial and religious divide, just like you have black ghettos in American cities and the religious divide of Ireland and of course the religious divisions of the Balkans….but only the Jewish state is guilty of ethnic cleansing as you call it. Have you not heard of the 850,000 Jews that were ‘ethnically cleansed’ from Iraq, Syria Egypt, Morocco from 1941. Blake you are a typical anti-Semite.

          • Mike, I certainly don’t doubt some of your ‘facts’ and historical accounts, but when you use expressions such as “left wing lies”, and “anti-Semites”, it appears clear that there’s more of an agenda behind your words than factual impartiality. It looks to me as though the choice of ‘facts’ can vary quite considerably depending on either one’s allegiance, or alternatively a general concern for humanity.

          • Mike Abramov

            Ken – it is with regret that my seven odd years of campaigning for an UNBIASED view of the Israel/Palestine conflict shows that many of the pro-Palestine protagonists are clearly harbouring a hatred of Jews and Israel. Some of the language and doctrines I have heard warrant psychiatric investigation. You may well be a more balanced and rational supporter of Palestine which I respect but, you are a minority. I am and always have been a humanitarian.

          • Helen4Yemen

            ||harbouring a hatred of Jews and Israel||

            Ge the F— of our land and our resentment and hatred towards these Europeans will dissipate.

          • Blake

            Clearly you live in an upturned contrary to all men zionist universe

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why would 475,000 Arab Jews still remain in Arab countries one whole decade after the European Khazars stole Palestine? Can you explain ‘the expulsions’?

            1948 — 856,000 total Arab Jews
            1958 — 475,050 remained

          • Helen4Yemen

            Benny Morris:

            “The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces [IDF] archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-State defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.”

            “There are cases such as the village of Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything that moved. The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and, perhaps, Abu Shusha (70). There is no unequivocal proof of a large-scale massacre at Tantura, but war crimes were perpetrated there. At Jaffa there was a massacre about which nothing had been known until now. The same at Arab al Muwassi, in the north. About half of the acts of massacre were part of Operation Hiram [in the north, in October 1948]: at Safsaf, Saliha, Jish, Eilaboun, Arab al Muwasi, Deir al Asad, Majdal Krum, Sasa. In Operation Hiram there was a unusually high concentration of executions of people against a wall or next to a well in an orderly fashion. That can’t be chance. It’s a pattern. Apparently, various officers who took part in the operation understood that the expulsion order they received permitted them to do these deeds in order to encourage the population to take to the roads. The fact is that no one was punished for these acts of murder. [David] Ben-Gurion silenced the matter. He covered up for the officers who did the massacres.”

          • Mike Abramov

            Blake here are the facts….not your left-wing lies.

            There are no crimes of humanity that Israel is guilty of. Otherwise, proove it.

            There was no stolen land. otherwise proove it.

            I have been debating with the anti-Semites for over 7 years. I know how you think.

          • Blake

            You squat on stolen ethnically cleansed under the barrel of a terrorist gun Palestinian land. It doesnt belong to you, it belongs to them

          • Eric11210

            Fiction.

          • Helen4Yemen

            There is no stolen land? Do you see European Bloombergs and Goldbergs roaming around the land of Palestine? How did the Bloombergs and Goldbergs get planted from Germany onto Arab soil? They are as foreign to Palestine as ET was to earth.

          • Blake

            UN archives show that in 1948 the Palestinians lost most of the land they owned. In 1947, only 7% of Mandate-era Palestine (some 440000 acres) was owned by Jews. 85% was owned by Palestinians (the rest was public and other). Link was provided but that comment needed to be approved by the moderator because of the link I assume so it may show up after its been moderated.

            The Israeli Ministry of Agriculture estimated in 1949 that refugee-owned lands amounted to 80% – or 4.1 million acres of the territory. Source: “Erased from Space and Consciousness: Israel and the Depopulated Palestinian villages of 1948” – by Noga Kadman

          • Eric11210

            Pure fiction.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Blake: Put a star or space after the dot on links that you want to post.

            http://www.*jstor.*org/stable/j.*ctt16kdvvz

            Erased from Space and Consciousness: Israel and the Depopulated Palestinian Villages of 1948
            Noga Kadman

            Introduction (pp. 1-7)
            When one travels in Israel, it is almost impossible to avoid seeing piles of stones, ruins, collapsing walls and structures overgrown with uncultivated almond and fig trees, rolling terraces crumbling with disuse, and long hedges of prickly cactuses. These integral parts of the Israeli landscape are all that remain of Palestinian villages that existed before the War of 1948.

            After the war, the newly created State of Israel contained within its borders over four hundred depopulated villages and eleven cities emptied of all or most of their Arab-Palestinian residents. Israel prevented these residents, who had escaped or been expelled across…

            1 Depopulation, Demolition, and Repopulation of the Village Sites (pp. 8-32)
            On the eve of the violent events of 1948, the Arab population of British Mandatory Palestine amounted to 1.2 million, of them 850,000 within the borders of what is today recognized as the State of Israel proper; they constituted the great majority of the population of that area. Arab-Palestinian society of the time was largely agricultural, with some two-thirds of the Palestinian population before the war living in villages. Most of the Arab workforce in 1947 in Palestine worked in agriculture.¹ On their land the Arab villagers cultivated nearly ten thousand acres of orchards, mostly citrus fruit (on the coastal…

            2 National Identity, National Conflict, Space, and Memory (pp. 33-51)
            National identity attaches its bearer to a “nationality”—a defined political community driven by an ideology of social and territorial exclusivity. National identity evolves and consolidates through a prolonged and intricate process, involving a host of cultural and political forces grappling to shape its character. Part of the process is the creation of a hegemonic narrative that describes the history of the nation, establishes the link between the nation and the territory that it claims, stresses its uniqueness and unity, charts out its shared goals and mission, and cultivates the values and norms by which this nation abides. The national…

            3 The Depopulated Villages as Viewed by Jewish Inhabitants (pp. 52-90)
            In the first few years of its existence, Israel carried out a large-scale settlement project, establishing hundreds of Jewish communities on lands of depopulated Palestinian villages, dozens of them in the built-up area of the villages. Research done for this book suggests that the previously built-up area of 108 depopulated villages—over a quarter of the total number of villages—is partly or completely located within Jewish communities nowadays. In 25 villages, Jewish agricultural communities were established within the built-up area of the villages, some using the actual village homes and buildings and some built on top of the ruins….

            4 Naming and Mapping the Depopulated Village Sites (pp. 91-111)
            Naming a place and presenting it on a map is an acknowledgment of its presence in the landscape, its historical importance, and its cultural significance. Most of the sites of depopulated Palestinian villages were never granted an official name in Israel, even though the traces of many still remain in the landscape, and despite the Israeli pretension of naming any geographical object in sight, including ruins. Even where names were given to village sites, in most cases the Arab name was not recognized: if the Arab name preserved a biblical name, that earlier name was restored as the official name;…

            5 Depopulated Villages in Tourist and Recreational Sites (pp. 112-140)
            Nearly all the depopulated Palestinian villages were demolished in order to erase them from the landscape. However, most of the village sites are located today in open areas, and in many some remains of the village can be seen.¹ Over the years, in many of these areas forests were planted, parks were established, national parks and nature reserves were declared, and hiking paths were paved. Today, the previously built-up area of almost half of the depopulated Palestinian villages (182 out of 418) is included within tourist and recreational sites, such as jnf forests and parks, nature reserves, or national parks…

            Conclusion: The Remains of the Past, A Look toward the Future (pp. 141-150)
            The lower galilee village of Saffuriyya had over four thousand residents in 1948. In July of that year the village came under aerial bombardment and artillery attack by the idf, which led most of its residents to flee, including the village’s armed defenders. The following year the villagers who remained were expelled. Some of the village refugees today live in nearby villages, and others live beyond Israel’s borders, mostly in Lebanon.¹ The houses of the village were razed to the ground, and only a few public buildings remain. In 1949 a moshav was established next to the village site, on…

          • Eric11210

            Except that we’re not.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You need to dispense with the expression ‘antiSemites’ replace it with
            ‘Anti-Ashkenazi’ since no Ashkenazi Jewry is Semite, not one. Look in the mirror.

          • Eric11210

            1. All Jews are related to each other as I showed you.
            2. The term anti-Semite specifically refers to Jews.

          • Mike Abramov

            Blake here are the facts….not your left-wing lies.

            There are no crimes of humanity that Israel is guilty of. Otherwise, proove it.

            There was no stolen land. otherwise proove it.

            I have been debating with the anti-Semites for over 7 years. I know how you think.

          • Helen4Yemen

            ||Its like you have all come off the same production line of stupidity.||

            It is the Hasbara line! They have no choice but to make up stories since the theft of Palestine by European aliens is indefensible.

          • Eric11210

            Jews came home to our ancestral homeland. I proved to you yesterday that Jews are all related to each other but you love to lie.

        • Helen4Yemen

          You must say: They did not want Ashkenazi Jews in Palestine, i.e. they did not want European foreigners who invaded their land.
          ________
          Jabotinsky — There is only one thing the Zionists want, and it is that one thing that the Arabs do not want, for that is the way by which the Jews would gradually become the majority, and then a Jewish Government would follow automatically, and the future of the Arab minority would depend on the goodwill of the Jews; and a minority status is not a good thing, as the Jews themselves are never tired of pointing out. So there is no “misunderstanding”. The Zionists want only one thing, Jewish immigration; and this Jewish immigration is what the Arabs do not want.

        • Helen4Yemen

          APARTHEID ‘ISRAEL’
          1. Does the term ‘apartheid’ fit Israel? Of course it does.
          -Los Angeles Times May 17, 2014

          2. It’s Time to Admit It. Israeli Policy Is What It Is: Apartheid –
          -Haaretz Aug 17, 2015

          3.Noam Chomsky: Israeli Apartheid ‘Much Worse’ Than South Africa
          – Aug 25, 2015

          4. Veteran South African activist Denis Goldberg: Israel ‘an apartheid state’
          –Middleeastmonitor Jul 28, 2015

          5. The tribulations of being an Ethiopian Jew 9 February 2012 -(IRIN)

          6. Under Israeli Apartheid, Palestinians Cannot Ride Israeli Buses
          -Counterpunch OCTOBER 28, 2014

          7. Israel an apartheid state? A majority of Jews say yes — -RT .com

          8.Apartheid in the Holy Land Desmond Tutu -The Guardian April 28, 2002

    • Helen4Yemen

      ||They vied for a Palestine free of European Jews. ||

      Absolutely, just like the Kenyans rejected the British, the Algerians rejected the French.
      What is different about the Ashkenazi? Are they not also foreign invading Europeans?
      _____
      Jabotinsky — “A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!… Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important… to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonizing.” Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923

      • Blake

        Had to block that annoying troll

        • Helen4Yemen

          My blocked list exceeded 70 in a matter of days and then I came to realize that the block feature does not stop them from commenting back to your comments – something that I had desperately hoped for. You just do not see the comment. I had to unblock many of them. Twitter has that wonderful feature that would prevent one from commenting to one who blocked him. Too bad Disqus does not have it. This Abramov, with an Ashkenazi name, claims to be non-white, who cares, everyone on the land of Palestine is an unwanted foreigner except for the Palestinians (Muslim, Jew, Christian). His logic is totally of no value. E.g. comparing Indian/Pakistan – indigenous peoples with Palestinian/Ashkenazi – one indigenous and the other European foreign. I have seen many much worse than Abramov, he is just so deluded that his logic comes across as nonsense.

          • Blake

            Even if he is non white hes still in Palestine at the expense of the indigenous Palestinians

          • Helen4Yemen

            Yes! No Ethiopian or Chinese or Indian or Nigerian or Yemeni or Iraqi Jews have a right to be in Palestine. They came following the Ashkenazi.

          • Eduardo Pinha

            So, according you logic, it doesn´t matter if they are being persecuted or killed.

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Europeans killed the Ashkenazi and the Europeans should have provided land for the Ashkenazi.

          • Eduardo Pinha

            Unlike muslim that kill each other the jewish are diferente. It does not matter if you are Sefaradim or Ashkenazim, they care and help each other.

          • Helen4Yemen

            ‘diferente’?

          • Eduardo Pinha

            So, according you logic, it doesn´t matter if they are being persecuted or killed.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Jabotinsky —

      || Jabotinsky — We cannot offer any adequate compensation to the Palestinian Arabs in return for Palestine. And therefore, there is no likelihood of any voluntary agreement being reached. ||

    • Helen4Yemen

      || Jabotinsky– We may tell them whatever we like about the innocence of our aims, watering them down and sweetening them with honeyed words to make them palatable, but they know what we want, as well as we know what they do not want. They feel at least the same instinctive jealous love of Palestine, as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico , and their Sioux for their rolling Prairies. To imagine, as our Arabophiles do, that they will voluntarily consent to the realisation of Zionism in return for the moral and material conveniences which the (Ashkenazi) Jewish colonist brings with him, is a childish notion, which has at bottom a kind of contempt for the Arab people; it means that they despise the Arab race, which they regard as a corrupt mob that can be bought and sold, and are willing to give up their fatherland for a good railway system. ||

    • Skeptikc

      Mike Abramov- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

      Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
      youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

      *remove stars from url*

  • Reid Iford

    Zionists – backed by Rothschilde – gained this agreement by promising to bring the USA into WW I… which they did. This knowledge led to the Nazi’s extreme hattred for Jews, who they blamed for “stabbing Germany in the back.”

    But it was NOT the German Jews who did this. The Zionmists then partnered with Nazi Germany – gaining their support for the invasion of Palestine and helping send the innocent non-Zionist European Jews to the gas chambers.

    SOURCE: “Against our better judgement,” by Alison Weir, available on Amazon.

    • Mike Abramov

      Reid – if you are going to use left-wing propaganda to support your argument, may I suggest you broaden your choice of reading history books to factual history and not re-constructed history. Your source, Alison Weir, is pure rubbish.

      • Mehamed Kaddih

        non one cares of reading zioshit racist crap. the zionist terroust synagoge of satan is on path to a catastrophe

        • William Dean Ziemer

          Apes at the Zoo know how to throw excrement too.

          • Matt McLaughlin

            but I guess they can’t spell ie ‘through’. you mean ‘throw’, Einstein?

          • William Dean Ziemer

            Actually, Einstein had trouble spelling.

            On the other hand, I just don’t care… sill, I corrected it for all of you who think spelling is the final say in an argument but have no real argument of your own.

            In defense of Albert, he had dyslexia. But here are just a few famous people who just could not spell and some had horrible grammar as well.

            Alfred Mosher Butts, William Faulkner, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Ernest Hemingway, Jonh Keats, Jane Austen, Winston Churchill, Leonardo Da Vinchi, Agatha Christie, John F. Kennedy Jr, W.B. Yeats and Benjamin Franklin.

            So, I am in good company.
            I’ve never felt a need to find out if I have dyslexia, though at least one other person in my family does, I’m sure that I just suffer from spelling words the way they sound and I don’t care if the dictionary (which frequently spells like me in the pronunciations) tells me otherwise… because… Thank God! we now have “auto correct”.

            Now hurry along; I’m sure there are more misspelled words out there for you to notice and bad spellers for you to chastise. 🙂

          • Helen4Yemen

            “how to through”?

          • William Dean Ziemer

            Good eye…thanks!

          • Skeptikc

            And which species are you and your Zionist ilk from? The mandrill no doubt? Why no show us your coloured privates? 😉

            Rothschild Zionism- The elephant in the room
            https://m^youtube^com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www^savethemales^ca/001671.html

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          • Skeptikc

            And which species are you and your Zionist ilk from? The mandrill no doubt? Why not show us your coloured privates? 😉

            Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
            youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www*.savethemales.*ca/001671.html

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          • William Dean Ziemer

            You “Anti Zionists” are so predictable; you all stand at a distance and throw rocks like sissies. This reminds me of back when I was a snot nosed 8th grader being abused by three other eighth graders from a different school… They didn’t know me or anything about me but because I was from a different school, they attacked me.

            But, though there were three of them, they just threw rocks at me from a distance and shouted obscenities. Just like all the Anti Zionist on this page.

            The thing is, I really don’t know much about the “Zionist” movement at all. I know what the Holy Scriptures teach me as a Christian and that’s all I’m going by.

            But, if throwing excrement like apes in a zoo is all you can do, have at it. I don’t get ruffled much over words thrown in ignorance… or rocks.

          • Reid Iford

            We don’t mass murder children and babies. In my book that puts us one up on “Israeli” Zionists. 😉

          • Skeptikc

            And how can that dolt, Mr. Ziemer claim to be following the Holy Scriptures, yet be for the mass murder of children and babies? Didn’t Yeshua really love the children, Mr. Ziemer and tell us all to love them? So how is it that you support this mass murder? Aren’t you really following a sort of Satanism that your ego has fooled you into believing is some sort of twisted Christianity?

          • Skeptikc

            And which species are you and your Zionist ilk from? The mandrill no doubt? Why no show us your coloured privates? 😉

            Rothschild Zionism- The elephant in the room
            https://m^youtube^com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www^savethemales^ca/001671.html

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www^savethemales^ca/001671.html

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          • Skeptikc

            You pro-Rothschild Zionists are so predictable:

            Nothing but endless lies, and often hiding behind things such as Holy Scriptures, such as this dolt, Mr. Ziemer, who has not yet understood that one of Yeshua’s main message was an anti-Illuminati one, and that “the storming of the temple”, was Yeshua’s statement against them. Yes they existed at that time and controlled the Roman Empire and the Pharisees (who kept the common Jews in line), at the time of Yeshua. The empire used crucifixion as the threat for those not following the mind-control that required the worship of Caesar as a god.

            Nor do I get ruffled at the lies that you are trying to push to sanctify Israel and the other control that Rothschild Zionists exert over the world through Globalism.

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www*.savethemales.*ca/001671.html

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      • Skeptikc

        Mike Abramov- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

        Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
        youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

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      • TecumsehUnfaced
        • Mike Abramov

          I get the impression that you are quite young. If you are going to believe everything you read, you are showing signs of being gullible. In life, you do learn that every story has two sides. When you learn to have an open mind, only then can you ask me to read this propaganda.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Funny! When I laugh at the old ZioNazi con game, this ZioNazi troll accuses me of being gullible.

            Yes, I do understand that the violent invader has his silly exculpatory story to tell too.

            Why are you alien European thugs in Palestine?

          • Mike Abramov

            HHMMMMM!!!!! My friend you are gullible. Tell me, are you happy that ISIS is murdering thousands of Kurds, chopping heads off, crucifying prisoners and raping the women because that is Nazi behaviour. But, you have turned your head away from this evil violence and focused on the soft touch of the Jewish nation because you fear a reprisal from your fellow Muslims. You are all the same. How dare you call the democratic Jewish nation Nazi. Israel has Arabs in the Knesset, mixed schools for all religions and gay men and women can be openly gay without being thrown off the rooftops as they are in Gaza. This is open democracy. Nazi is what ISIS are doing. Now, go to the opticians and get an eye test because you are blind to the truth.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why would I be happy about ZioNazi proxies committing atrocities?

            Oh, I understand! You are swallowed by your own ZioNazi con games. You even call the evil ZioNazi invader thugdom a “democracy” while it continues the genocidal country stealing against the indigenous peoples of the Middle East.

            You are so childishly gullible about a few token Arabs treated well, when your demonic ZioNazis assaulted Palestine and tore your evil thugdom from the entrails of the genuinely Semite indigenes by,,,

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

          • Mike Abramov

            Answer my question! Yes, the occupation is wrong but the Arabs brought this on themselves. Israel has to hold the West Bank for now because if they don’t ISIL and Hizbollah will then occupy the West Bank.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, the Palestinians never invited the invasion or occupation of Palestine by the savage European ZioNazi genocidal country stealer thugs.

            The alien European ZioNazis have no rights in Palestine and must forsake their savage crimes and leave.

          • Mike Abramov

            Sir – you are still wrong. The Palestinians had no problems with the British occupying Palestine for 19 years. Nor the Turkish (not Arab)Ottomans for 400 years nor the Saracens before them. Your problem sir is that you represent a segment of society that is pure racism just like in England where idiots like you would have been against the immigration of Poles and Pakistanis. You also forget that by now Syria, Daesh and Egypt would have invaded Palestine and kept the Palestinians in poverty,

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            That is incredibly obtuse. The Palestinians rose up against the hated racist British oppressors, protectors of the invading European ZioNazi thugs.

          • Mike Abramov

            Obtuse? The Palestinians had no problem with the British. The Arab Rebellion of 1936 was not against the British but against allowing Jews fleeing anti-Semitism coming in to Palestine. By-the-way, Al-Hussaini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem, was pro-Nazi. Please explain why?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You get even more obtuse. You’re claiming the Arabs weren’t angry that their right of self-determination was illegally abrogated by the alien thug English? You’re claiming that Al-Hussaini didn’t have the right to protect his people against the invading European ZioNazi genocidal country stealers?

            Why did the ZioNazis work with the Nazis to force German Jews to work in the ZioNazi assalt on Palestine? Can you tell me why Yitzhak Shamir was such a Nazi lover? Can you tell me why Adolf Eichmann visited the ZioNazi thug leaders in Palestine?

            Where do you ZioNazis get the perversion to do genocidal country stealing?

          • Skeptikc

            Aren’t you the gullible one, Rothschild Zionist? Don’t you yet know that ISIS was financed and founded by CIA-Mossad-MI5,6 yet? You know why they are doing it? To destabilize the region so that a puppet government can be installed in Syria and the Euphrates River can be accessed to grow Israel’s economy which is curtailed, due to the lack of water. And the waves of Muslim refugees? To destabilize the Christian world to try to start WW3!

            Look, this agenda has been planned a long time ago and is in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion as well as the letter from Freemasonry Grandmaster of the USA, Albert Pike to Mazzini, Aug 15, 1871. The Nazis were Rothschild-funded, as was the laundering of the exterminated Jews’ booty in Switzerland and Portugal, and the theft of remaining Jewish booty that is unclaimed- in Rothschilds’ hands.

            How come you don’t know all this? Just plain ignorance? Or perhaps misplaced reverence to the Royalty of Jewry and their fiefdom of Israel, the House of Rothschild? Just too mind-controlled to ever figure it out?

            Albert Pike letter to Mazzini
            www.*threeworldwars*.com/albert-pike2.*htm

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          • Skeptikc

            Because of the “Balfour Declaration” where a Rothschild agent, UK foreign secretary, Lord Arthur James Balfour wrote the following to 2nd Baron Walter Rothschild, thus securing a fiefdom on other people’s land for the House of Rothschild. It is no secret that the 6-pointed star on the Israeli flag is the symbol of the House of Rothschild, changed from red to blue. Thus, the Israeli thuggery was born, and none of the promises in the declaration were kept: instead there is a Palestinian genocide going on! It’s what this type of scum does best- endless lies!

            The letter said the following:

            “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine
            of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best
            endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being
            clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the
            civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in
            Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any
            other country.”[1][2]

            Rothschild Zionism- they dare not say its name!
            https://www*youtube*com/watch?v=VskFmitRpbo

            From 2006, but still relevant today: The root problem
            http://www*savethemales*ca/001671.html

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    • Eric11210

      Yeah, the same idiot who publishes the propaganda blog If Americans Knew. Hardly a reliable source.

      • Reid Iford

        Zionists are terrified of one thing, one word: TRUTH

        It is all that is needed to end the world’s last colonial occupation and free the People of Palestine.

        • Eric11210

          I’m all for the truth. Too bad that idiot never met a lie she didn’t love to tell.

          • Reid Iford

            She footnoted and provided sources for every statement she made. Hard to lie when you are telling the truth.

          • Eric11210

            Actually she didn’t.

          • Skeptikc

            Eric11210 is an American traitor and a paid Rothschild Zionist shill. Beware of the nonsense spouting from this bottom-dwelling creeping scum…

            Rothschild Zionism- they dare not speak its name
            https://www^youtube^com/watch?v=0xe5cQDIbMs

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www^savethemales^ca/001671.html

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          • Skeptikc

            No you’re not, Eric, you’re a Rothschild Zionist paid shill. Let’s see your paycheck!

            From 2006, but still relevant today
            The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
            http://www^savethemales^ca/001671.html

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    • I too have read Weir’s book, well, actually listened to the audiobook, and I’m surprised by the vitriol expressed here towards a work I consider to be extremely informative. Are these people actually familiar with the content of her book, or is it just that they perceive the thrust of it going against an allegiance they feel towards the state of Israel, I wonder? I’d be interested to know.

      • Helen4Yemen

        http://www.^ifamericansknew.^org/

      • Skeptikc

        Many are paid Zionist shills or self-appointed Zionist shills filled with mind-control.

    • Alexander Malinowski

      Nonsense.
      Germany itself provoked USA to declare war against them.
      This provocation was called Zimmerman Telegram.

      Balfour Declaration was only declaration.
      United Kingdom offered Arabic provinces of Ottoman Empire to anybody and each of them has been promised at least twice.
      In the effect Brits had to split them into several smaller units as there were not enough states to satisfy all promises.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Here is a test for the European Jews.
        Look in the mirror, who is staring back?
        Don’t be shy. Just answer the question —

        a) Chinese
        b) M/E
        c) European
        d) African
        e) Japanese

        What is your answer?

    • Alexander Malinowski

      I understand.
      Those absurds are part of ideology of Hamas:

      Article 22 states that the French revolution, the Russian revolution, colonialism and both world wars were created by the Zionists or forces supportive of Zionism:

      “You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.

      • Reid Iford

        I am deal only in verifiable facts. To learn more about Zionist and “israeli” atrocities, read “Against our better judgement” by Allison Weir, available in print and digital media on Amazon.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          Do you support Hamas view that evil on the planet is due to Jews?

        • Eric11210

          Verifiable facts? Too funny. You think that idiot tells the truth??

  • Blake

    Something you do not seem to be aware of. The writers of the Balfour Declaration were zionists (‘Political Committee’), not Balfour himself. The one signed by Balfour after being given it by Baron Edmund de Rothschild was the final of many drafts….

    “[Balfour Declaration] FORMULA MAKING:
    There was a meeting at the house of one of their number [British Zionist] in Feb 1917, Sir Mark Sykes was there “in his private capacity.” He was told there MUST be no internationalisation of Palestine because the Zionists desired a British protectorate with full rights to the Jews to develop as a nation. M. Nahum Sokoloff, the chief representative in Britain of the International Zionist Executive, was chosen, as the result of the meeting, to continue negotiations with Sir Mark Sykes & M. Picot, who acted for the French Government. The Zionist report says with satisfaction: “Thus opened the chapter of negotiations which ended 9 months later with the Balfour Declaration.” Still fearful of internationalisation, which would have made the Zionist state impossible, Mssrs Weizmann & Sokoloff spent some months vainly trying to get the Sykes-Picot Agreement cancelled. Though they failed in this, yet somehow internationalisation did drop out of sight.
    The goal was getting visible. A number of prominent Zionists, Ahad Ha-am, the writer, Mssrs Joseph Cowen, Akiva Yaakov Ettinger, Albert Hyamson, Simon Marks, Harry Sacher, Israel Moses Sieff, Leon Simon, Samuel Tolkowsky, Aaron Aaronsohn, Vladimir (Ze’ev) Jabotinsky, Samuel Landman, & others from continental countries, as they visited England from time to time, were gathered in to form a Political Committee. Their names are of great interest, since it was they, together with well-known Zionist leaders, who began work on the “Balfour Declaration.” Many versions of the suggested formula were drafted,” says the Zionist report, “by various members of the Political Committee.” Drafts went back and forth to the Foreign Office. “Some were detailed and elaborate,” but the Government did not want to commit itself to more than a general statement of principle. Finally, a “concise and general formula was agreed upon.” This was made known to and approved by President Woodrow Wilson, Sir Mark Sykes, and Baron Edmond de Rothschild. All seemed finished. On July 18 Lord Rothschild forwarded the Balfour Declaration to Mr Balfour [to sign].”
    Source: “The Palestine Deception, 1915–1923: The McMahon-Hussein Correspondence, the Balfour Declaration, and the Jewish National Home” By: J. M. N. Jeffries
    Edited by William M. Mathew

    • Mike Abramov

      Blake – the information you have offered to this site is well known. However, may I ask you a question. If Pakistan is a result of Muslim self-determination on the Indian sub-continent why is that OK and not Israel? If N.Ireland remains British against the wishes of the Republic if Ireland, why is that OK? Both these countries have had a bad reputation for violence and murder. Is that OK too? Or, is it that you have singled out the Jewish homeland because you have a problem with Jews?

      • Blake

        How can you possibly make an analogy linking what happened to the Palestinians with what happened to India/Pakistan? India and Pakistan agreed to the UN recommendation (ALL natives, not anyone from abroad with a sense of entitlement to the land) hence it was ratified into law. There was nothing like the Balfour Declaration in that case and it went to the Security council to be ratified into law (didnt happen in case of ‘israel’ – UN GA res 181 is non binding). As for Northern Ireland the Irish will be united soon. Still a very desperate irrational analogy.

        • Helen4Yemen

          The most important point that needs to be made is what you mentioned in your comments that the case of Pakistan/India were all indigenous natives dividing the land whereas the Ashkenazi are FOREIGN European colonial settlers just like the British in Kenya and the French in Algeria. There is something weird that white Europeans have deluded themselves into believing that they are people of color. Strange. They look in the mirror and none other than a European would be staring back at them. And yet they claim their ancestors lived in Palestine. We can only conclude that the Ashkenazi MORPHED into Europeans. Weird.

          • Eduardo Pinha

            You seem to care about Yemen. So go study about the history of Yemeni Jews, very interesting. They would all be dead by now if Israel didn´t exist.

          • Helen4Yemen
          • Eduardo Pinha

            Yes, Israel is a free society and people can criticize the government.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Israel” = FOREIGN

          • GIVVO6_B

            Unless of course you are a Palestinian and then you have to fear the knock on the door.

          • Eduardo Pinha

            If you a terrorist yes. Now Israel has 1.5 million arabs as citizens.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But it is by terror that the invader Zionists built themselves into a thugdom, and by terror they maintain it.

            -> http://smoloko.COM/wp-content/uploads/TerrorismBeginNetanyahuMeme.jpg

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are lying, but the IDF chief censor loves you.

          • Helen4Yemen
          • Alexander Malinowski

            Are you claiming that Ashkenazi are Europeans???
            Ashkenazi lived long time in Europe, but has never lost their foreigners status. There were attempt by Germany to assimilate them, which ended up in 1938 in Nurmberg acts. Therefore they are clearly Israel population that returned to their homeland after some time (ca. 15 centuries).

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you aware that European Jews have more than 40 genetic diseases that no other Jews have? While testing for these diseases, genetics scientists discovered that only European Jews were carriers of these Genetic diseases and no Arab Jews were. Test after test revealed that the Arab Jews were free of these diseases. What does that tell you? It tells you scientifically that there is no genetic connection between the white European Jews and the Semitic Jews of the M/E. European Jews are European from time immemorial. Not a single European Jew is a Semite. The Arab Jews are Semites. That is the truth and the undisputed truth.

            Google=>Ashkenazi Genetic diseases

          • Alexander Malinowski

            However, this is not a proof.
            Such a disease could have originated from mutation incurred during times in diaspora.
            Moreover, here is except from results:
            Genetic studies on Ashkenazim—researching both their paternal and maternal lineages—point to a significant prevalence of West Asian origins.

            And the last points: Ashkenazy are only less than half of Jewish population of Israel.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The diaspora? The Romans had no trucks, no railroads. How were they going to execute a diaspora upon a population? They only grabbed as many troublemakers as they needed to set the peace and could conveniently move to distant.Rome.

            Remember, at that time Judaism was a proselytizing religion , and there were more Jews outside of Palestine than inside.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            How does it matters now?

            Currently Palestinians are in diaspora, most of them are no more born in old country. Those, who stayed multiplayed 6 times, and soon will be it 10 times.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Yes, it does matter. Because the alien Zionist country stealers are still pushing tremendous misery upon the people of the Middle East, whom they have no right to attack.

            If it doesn’t matter to you, why great! Let’s remove the thug Ashkenazi genocidal country stealerss.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            They are not.

            Currently there is civil war in Syria, mostly between Sunni and Shia.

            There is civil war in Iraq, mostly between Sunni and Shia.

            There is risk of civil war in Lebanon (between all factions).

            There is war in Yemen. However, i have no idea, who is fighting and why.

            There is war between normal people and Jihadis in Egypt, Saudi Arabia.

            What is happening in Israel is comparative peace.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            All those wars are being fought at the instigation or participation of the the savage Zionist country stealers.

            There is no legitimate “Israel”, only a savage, brutal thugdom throttling Palestine while assaulting its neighbors directly or by proxy, e.g.

            Who backs daesh and how
            -> https://a.disquscdn.COM/uploads/mediaembed/images/2967/262/original.jpg

          • Alexander Malinowski

            This is hilarious claim and makes you unserious.

            There is Shia / Sunni split since 1000 years. In times of Crusades Assassins were allied with Christians.

            There is a lot problems in Middle East not related to Isreal.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            In Roman times there were frequent expulsions of some group of people.

            I read that some Emperors had idea and moved people from one city to another city in order to populate it.

            Population transfer definitely could have happen.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            To Rome, the whole population of Palestine? Your ability to think is swallowed by ancient myths. That is what happens when you are desperate to fabricate excuses for genocidal country stealing.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            I am not. However, there is no difference if Jews are or not descendants of people of Palestine. It made difference maybe in 1948, but not in 2016.
            Israelis have claim to the land by being born there.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Okay, so you admit that you Ashkenazi thugs simply invaded and genocidally stole another people’s country. You have admitted that the brutal thugdom you fraudulently call “Israel” has no right to exist.

            Sorry, the inheritance of stolen goods confers no rights. Why do you think Jews are going after goods they lost to the Nazis in the Holocaust? You can’t have it both ways.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            There is no such a object as Ashkenazi Thugs.
            You should go to school and learn mathematics, logic and rational reasoning.
            One day you want normal job, except hate propaganda department. It must pay very bad anyway.
            There were some ideological construct, but Israelis claims are based on some others acts like UNO Palestine division act.
            They have certainly good claim to land now.

            Please state your objectives and how would like to reach your aim.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            What do think invaded Palestine with floods of crimes, terror, murder, massacres to do genocidal country stealing, but THUGS, Ashkenazi thugs. Don’t play silly games with me.

            Also, thank you for showing your debased logic.

            I am not Palestinian, Arab, or Muslim, nor do I hate Jews with whom I grew up with. But unlike you, I do condemn savage thuggery. I have a conscience that cannot permit the silly ease with which you look upon the vast misery caused by the ZIoNazi country stealers.

            No, the ZioNazis have no legitimate basis for vilely hug amount of misery they caused. The U.N. never gave them any part of Palestine, nor ever had the right to give the European ZioNazi thugs any part of another people’s country.

            It’s not me that makes the choice, it’s the implacable savagery and greed of the ZioNazi thugs looking to extend their thugdom over the whole of mythical Eretz Islrael. The Thugdom must dissolve, and the ZiiNazi thugs leave, because they are incapable of treating other people with decency and respect.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            This is simply propaganda text and you are just hate troll, paid by (whom?).

            UN has granted israel some part of former Mandate of Palestine. It was long, long time ago.

            The dispute now is what part of Palestine should be base of Palestine state. And how to solve other problems related to 70-years of conflict.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, that is a lie.

            The UN only proposed a division, but by its charter, it couldn’t give any Palestinian land to the invader ZioNazi thugs.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            The very problem is that in 1948 there were no Palestinian land.
            There were some Palestinian land ownership, but yourself admitted faulty after Ottoman land reform.
            regarding statehood, the state was Mandate of Palestine, which inherited land from Ottoman Empire.
            Palestinians cannot really claim ownership of that land.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            That is so stupidly mendacious. The land now called Palestine belonged to them for millennia. In your duplicity you are claiming that transfer of land by theft is legitimate, always the claim of ZioNazi thugs stealing form others, but quite the reverse when they are the ones suffering a theft.

            You insolent absurdities are hilarious, as a thug’s must be.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Everybody knows that LA invented Palestinians to form counter-claim to Israeli claims.

            People in Middle East are not divided into nations, as we know in Europe.

            1. Country.
            Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern part of the Vilayet of Syria,[1] the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem,

            Prior to 1922 there were no unit called Palestine

            2. People
            In Ottoman Empire people were distinct by religion, not nationality. As there were no Palestine unit, the people were simply parts of many different groups.

            Please stop claiming something doesn’t make sense.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are lying. The ZioNazi thugs have already demonstrated many times that they will never allow an independent Palestinian state that would get in the way of the ZioNazi thugs grabbing more land and resources whenever they wanted.

            Moreover, you lie in calling it a dispute. It is a savage country stealing the European ZioNazi thugs.

          • Helen4Yemen

            This interview has disappeared from the Haaretz Website.

            SHLOMO SAND INTERVIEW: SHATTERING A NATIONAL MYTHOLOGY

            Ha’aretz: By Ofri Ilani
            March 26, 2008
            Of all the national heroes who have arisen from among the Jewish people over the
            generations, fate has not been kind to Dahia al-Kahina, a leader of the Berbers
            in the Aures Mountains. Although she was a proud Jewess, few Israelis have ever
            heard the name of this warrior-queen who, in the seventh century C.E., united a
            number of Berber tribes and pushed back the Muslim army that invaded North
            Africa. It is possible that the reason for this is that al-Kahina was the
            daughter of a Berber tribe that had converted to Judaism, apparently several
            generations before she was born, sometime around the 6th century C.E.
            According to the Tel Aviv University historian, Prof. Shlomo Sand, author of
            “Matai ve’ech humtza ha’am hayehudi?” (“When and How the Jewish People Was
            Invented?”; Resling, in Hebrew), the queen’s tribe and other local tribes that
            converted to Judaism are the main sources from which Spanish Jewry sprang. This
            claim that the Jews of North Africa originated in indigenous tribes that became
            Jewish – and not in communities exiled from Jerusalem – is just one element of
            the far- reaching argument set forth in Sand’s new book.
            In this work, the author attempts to prove that the Jews now living in Israel
            and other places in the world are not at all descendants of the ancient people
            who inhabited the Kingdom of Judea during the First and Second Temple period.
            Their origins, according to him, are in varied peoples that converted to Judaism
            during the course of history, in different corners of the Mediterranean Basin
            and the adjacent regions. Not only are the North African Jews for the most part
            descendants of pagans who converted to Judaism, but so are the Jews of Yemen
            (remnants of the Himyar Kingdom in the Arab Peninsula, who converted to Judaism
            in the fourth century) and the Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe (refugees from
            the Kingdom of the Khazars, who converted
            in the eighth century).
            Unlike other “new historians” who have tried to undermine the assumptions of
            Zionist historiography, Sand does not content himself with going back to 1948 or
            to the beginnings of Zionism, but rather goes back thousands of years. He tries
            to prove that the Jewish people never existed as a “nation-race” with a common
            origin, but rather is a colorful mix of groups that at various stages in history
            adopted the Jewish religion. He argues that for a number of Zionist ideologues,
            the mythical perception of the Jews as an ancient people led to truly racist
            thinking: “There were times when if anyone argued that the Jews belong to a
            people that has gentile origins, he would be classified as an anti-Semite on the
            spot. Today, if anyone dares to suggest that those who are considered Jews in
            the world … have never constituted and still do not constitute a people or a
            nation – he is immediately condemned as a hater of Israel.”
            According to Sand, the description of the Jews as a wandering and self-isolating
            nation of exiles, “who wandered across seas and continents, reached the ends of
            the earth and finally, with the advent of Zionism, made a U-turn and returned en
            masse to their orphaned homeland,” is nothing but “national mythology.” Like
            other national movements in Europe, which sought out a splendid Golden Age,
            through which they invented a heroic past – for example, classical Greece or the
            Teutonic tribes – to prove they have existed since the beginnings of history,
            “so, too, the first buds of Jewish nationalism blossomed in the direction of the
            strong light that has its source in the mythical Kingdom of David.”<hr>
            So when, in fact, was the Jewish people invented, in Sand’s view? At a certain
            stage in the 19th century, intellectuals of Jewish origin in Germany, influenced
            by the folk character of German nationalism, took upon themselves the task of
            inventing a people “retrospectively,” out of a thirst to create a modern Jewish
            people. From historian Heinrich Graetz on, Jewish historians began to draw the
            history of Judaism as the history of a nation that had been a kingdom, became a
            wandering people and ultimately turned around and went back to its birthplace.
            Actually, most of your book does not deal with the invention of the Jewish
            people by modern Jewish nationalism, but rather with the question of where the
            Jews come from.
            Sand: “My initial intention was to take certain kinds of modern historiographic
            materials and examine how they invented the ‘figment’ of the Jewish people. But
            when I began to confront the historiographic sources, I suddenly found
            contradictions. And then that urged me on: I started to work, without knowing
            where I would end up. I took primary sources and I tried to examine authors’
            references in the ancient period – what they wrote about conversion.”
            Sand, an expert on 20th-century history, has until now researched the
            intellectual history of modern France (in “Ha’intelektual, ha’emet vehakoah:
            miparashat dreyfus ve’ad milhemet hamifrats” – “Intellectuals, Truth and Power,
            From the Dreyfus Affair to the Gulf War”; Am Oved, in Hebrew). Unusually, for a
            professional historian, in his new book he deals with periods that he had never
            researched before, usually relying on studies that present unorthodox views of
            the origins of the Jews.
            Experts on the history of the Jewish people say you are dealing with subjects
            about which you have no understanding and are basing yourself on works that you can’t read in the original.
            “It is true that I am an historian of France and Europe, and not of the ancient
            period. I knew that the moment I would start dealing with early periods like
            these, I would be exposed to scathing criticism by historians who specialize in
            those areas. But I said to myself that I can’t stay just with modern
            historiographic material without examining the facts it describes. Had I not
            done this myself, it would have been necessary to have waited for an entire
            generation. Had I continued to deal with France, perhaps I would have been given
            chairs at the university and provincial glory. But I decided to relinquish the
            glory.”
            Inventing the Diaspora
            “After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people remained faithful to it
            throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return
            to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom” – thus states
            the preamble to the Israeli Declaration of Independence. This is also the
            quotation that opens the third chapter of Sand’s book, entitled “The Invention
            of the Diaspora.” Sand argues that the Jewish people’s exile from its land never
            happened.
            “The supreme paradigm of exile was needed in order to construct a long-range
            memory in which an imagined and exiled nation-race was posited as the direct
            continuation of ‘the people of the Bible’ that preceded it,” Sand explains.
            Under the influence of other historians who have dealt with the same issue in
            recent years, he argues that the exile of the Jewish people is originally a
            Christian myth that depicted that event as divine punishment imposed on the Jews
            for having rejected the Christian gospel.
            “I started looking in research studies about the exile from the land – a
            constitutive event in Jewish history, almost like the Holocaust. But to my
            astonishment I discovered that it has no literature. The reason is that no one
            exiled the people of the country. The Romans did not exile peoples and they
            could not have done so even if they had wanted to. They did not have trains and
            trucks to deport entire populations. That kind of logistics did not exist until
            the 20th century. From this, in effect, the whole book was born: in the
            realization that Judaic society was not dispersed and was not exiled.”
            If the people was not exiled, are you saying that in fact the real descendants
            of the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Judah are the Palestinians?
            “No population remains pure over a period of thousands of years. But the chances
            that the Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Judaic people are much
            greater than the chances that you or I are its descendents. The first Zionists,
            up until the Arab Revolt [1936-9], knew that there had been no exiling, and that
            the Palestinians were descended from the inhabitants of the land. They knew that
            farmers don’t leave until they are expelled. Even Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, the second
            president of the State of Israel, wrote in 1929 that, ‘the vast majority of the
            peasant farmers do not have their origins in the Arab conquerors, but rather,
            before then, in the Jewish farmers who were numerous and a majority in the
            building of the land.’”
            And how did millions of Jews appear around the Mediterranean Sea?
            “The people did not spread, but the Jewish religion spread. Judaism was a
            converting religion. Contrary to popular opinion, in early Judaism there was a
            great thirst to convert others. The Hasmoneans were the first to begin to
            produce large numbers of Jews through mass conversion, under the influence of
            Hellenism. The conversions between the Hasmonean Revolt and Bar Kochba’s
            rebellion are what prepared the ground for the subsequent, wide-spread
            dissemination of Christianity. After the victory of Christianity in the fourth
            century, the momentum of conversion was stopped in the Christian world, and
            there was a steep drop in the number of Jews. Presumably many of the Jews who
            appeared around the Mediterranean became Christians. But then Judaism started to
            permeate other regions – pagan regions, for example, such as Yemen and North
            Africa. Had Judaism not continued to advance at that stage and had it not
            continued to convert people in the pagan world, we would have remained a
            completely marginal religion, if we survived at all.”
            How did you come to the conclusion that the Jews of North Africa were originally
            Berbers who converted?
            “I asked myself how such large Jewish communities appeared in Spain. And then I
            saw that Tariq ibn Ziyad, the supreme commander of the Muslims who conquered
            Spain, was a Berber, and most of his soldiers were Berbers. Dahia al-Kahina’s
            Jewish Berber kingdom had been defeated only 15 years earlier. And the truth is
            there are a number of Christian sources that say many of the conquerors of Spain
            were Jewish converts. The deep-rooted source of the large Jewish community in
            Spain was those Berber soldiers who converted to Judaism.”
            Sand argues that the most crucial demographic addition to the Jewish population
            of the world came in the wake of the conversion of the kingdom of Khazaria – a
            huge empire that arose in the Middle Ages on the steppes along the Volga River,
            which at its height ruled over an area that stretched from the Georgia of today
            to Kiev. In the eighth century, the kings of the Khazars adopted the Jewish
            religion and made Hebrew the written language of the kingdom. From the 10th
            century the kingdom weakened; in the 13th century is was utterly defeated by
            Mongol invaders, and the fate of its Jewish inhabitants remains unclear.
            Sand revives the hypothesis, which was already suggested by historians in the
            19th and 20th centuries, according to which the Judaized Khazars constituted the
            main origins of the Jewish communities in Eastern Europe.
            “At the beginning of the 20th century there is a tremendous concentration of
            Jews in Eastern Europe – three million Jews in Poland alone,” he says. “The
            Zionist historiography claims that their origins are in the earlier Jewish
            community in Germany, but they do not succeed in explaining how a small number
            of Jews who came from Mainz and Worms could have founded the Yiddish people of
            Eastern Europe. The Jews of Eastern Europe are a mixture of Khazars and Slavs
            who were pushed eastward.”
            ‘Degree of perversion’
            If the Jews of Eastern Europe did not come from Germany, why did they speak
            Yiddish, which is a Germanic language?
            “The Jews were a class of people dependent on the German bourgeoisie in the
            East, and thus they adopted German words. Here I base myself on the research of
            linguist Paul Wechsler of Tel Aviv University, who has demonstrated that there
            is no etymological connection between the German Jewish language of the Middle
            Ages and Yiddish. As far back as 1828, the Ribal (Rabbi Isaac Ber Levinson) said
            that the ancient language of the Jews was not Yiddish. Even Ben Zion Dinur, the
            father of Israeli historiography, was not hesitant about describing the Khazars
            as the origin of the Jews in Eastern Europe, and describes Khazaria as ‘the
            mother of the diasporas’ in Eastern Europe. But more or less since 1967, anyone
            who talks about the Khazars as the ancestors of the Jews of Eastern Europe is
            considered naive and moonstruck.”
            Why do you think the idea of the Khazar origins is so threatening?
            “It is clear that the fear is of an undermining of the historic right to the
            land. The revelation that the Jews are not from Judea would ostensibly knock the
            legitimacy for our being here out from under us. Since the beginning of the
            period of decolonization, settlers have no longer been able to say simply: ‘We
            came, we won and now we are here’ the way the Americans, the whites in South
            Africa and the Australians said. There is a very deep fear that doubt will be
            cast on our right to exist.”

            Is there no justification for this fear?
            “No. I don’t think that the historical myth of the exile and the wanderings is
            the source of the legitimization for me being here, and therefore I don’t mind
            believing that I am Khazar in my origins. I am not afraid of the undermining of
            our existence, because I think that the character of the State of Israel
            undermines it in a much more serious way. What would constitute the basis for
            our existence here is not mythological historical right, but rather would be for
            us to start to establish an open society here of all Israeli citizens.”
            In effect you are saying that there is no such thing as a Jewish people.
            “I don’t recognize an international people. I recognize ‘the Yiddish people’
            that existed in Eastern Europe, which though it is not a nation can be seen as a
            Yiddishist civilization with a modern popular culture. I think that Jewish
            nationalism grew up in the context of this ‘Yiddish people.’ I also recognize
            the existence of an Israeli people, and do not deny its right to sovereignty.
            But Zionism and also Arab nationalism over the years are not prepared to
            recognize it.
            “From the perspective of Zionism, this country does not belong to its citizens,
            but rather to the Jewish people. I recognize one definition of a nation: a group
            of people that wants to live in sovereignty over itself. But most of the Jews in
            the world have no desire to live in the State of Israel, even though nothing is
            preventing them from doing so. Therefore, they cannot be seen as a nation.”
            What is so dangerous about Jews imagining that they belong to one people? Why is
            this bad?
            “In the Israeli discourse about roots there is a degree of perversion. This is
            an ethnocentric, biological, genetic discourse. But Israel has no existence as a
            Jewish state: If Israel does not develop and become an open, multicultural
            society we will have a Kosovo in the Galilee. The consciousness concerning the
            right to this place must be more flexible and varied, and if I have contributed
            with my book to the likelihood that I and my children will be able to live with
            the others here in this country in a more egalitarian situation – I will have
            done my bit.
            “We must begin to work hard to transform our place into an Israeli republic
            where ethnic origin, as well as faith, will not be relevant in the eyes of the
            law. Anyone who is acquainted with the young elites of the Israeli Arab
            community can see that they will not agree to live in a country that declares it
            is not theirs. If I were a Palestinian I would rebel against a state like that,
            but even as an Israeli I am rebelling against it.”
            The question is whether for those conclusions you had to go as far as the
            Kingdom of the Khazars.
            “I am not hiding the fact that it is very distressing for me to live in a
            society in which the nationalist principles that guide it are dangerous, and
            that this distress has served as a motive in my work. I am a citizen of this
            country, but I am also a historian and as a historian it is my duty to write
            history and examine texts. This is what I have done.”
            If the myth of Zionism is one of the Jewish people that returned to its land
            from exile, what will be the myth of the country you envision?
            “To my mind, a myth about the future is better than introverted mythologies of
            the past. For the Americans, and today for the Europeans as well, what justifies
            the existence of the nation is a future promise of an open, progressive and
            prosperous society. The Israeli materials do exist, but it is necessary to add,
            for example, pan-Israeli holidays. To decrease the number of memorial days a bit
            and to add days that are dedicated to the future. But also, for example, to add
            an hour in memory of the Nakba [literally, the “catastrophe” – the Palestinian
            term for what happened when Israel was established], between Memorial Day and
            Independence Day.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Shlomo Sand:

            ““I started looking in research studies about the exile from the land – a
            constitutive event in Jewish history, almost like the Holocaust. But to my
            astonishment I discovered that it has no literature. The reason is that no one
            exiled the people of the country. The Romans did not exile peoples and they
            could not have done so even if they had wanted to. They did not have trains and
            trucks to deport entire populations. That kind of logistics did not exist until
            the 20th century. From this, in effect, the whole book was born: in the
            realization that Judaic society was not dispersed and was not exiled.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Shlomo Sand:

            Question: And how did millions of Jews appear around the Mediterranean Sea?

            Shlomo Sand: “The people did not spread, but the Jewish religion spread. Judaism was a converting religion. Contrary to popular opinion, in early Judaism there was a
            great thirst to convert others.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But the European Ashkenazi invaders were the ones the executed the genocidal country stealing. Then they needed farmers and laborers.

            Actually, the arrival of the Arab Jews was another machination of the Ben-Gurion by which he planned to fool and terrorize the Arab Jews into Palestine to serve the victorious European Zionist invaders of Palestine as laborers and farmers. It was Ben-Gurion who ordered the Zionist assaults on the Arab Jews.

            Zionist crimes against the Jews
            – > http://www.thepeoplesvoice.ORG/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/11/11/zionist-crimes-against-the-jews

            Zionist terror against the Jews
            – > http://www.inminds.CO.UK/jews-of-iraq.html

            False flag of the Lavon affair
            – > http://whatreallyhappened.COM/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

            All planned and ordered by David Ben-Gurion
            – > https://en.wikipedia.ORG/wiki/One_Million_Plan

            Thanks for reminding us that the assault of the alien European Zionist Ashkenazi invaders was not just against the people of Palestine but against all the Arab Jews. Thanks for reminding us of the vast evil of the European Zionists in forcing two Million Arab (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) people from their homes.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Year 1944 WW2.

            Actually a lot of staff during and around WW2 was not OK. This is already very distant history.

            In 1945 there were 1.7 million people in Palestine. In 2035 there will be 18 million. Shall we return to state from 1945, so kill 90% of people and let 10% remaining to live, demolish skyscrapers and modern farms and return to village life of 1945???

            Is it your proposal?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, we just expel the Zionist genocidal country stealers. We won’t need to bulldoze away their homes and buildings like the Zionist thugs did to the Palestinians. The Palestinians returning to their stolen lands will be able to use them.

            Sorry, but history has show the criminality and greed of the Zionists to be insatiable. They are incapable to living peaceably with anyone else in the region. They are still working on seizing “Eretz Israel” from the indigenous peoples.

            Greater Israel Graphic Map
            -> https://pbs.twimg.COM/media/CcQZQbgUUAAN7m6.jpg
            Oded Yinon and his Plan
            -> https://worldpeace365.wordpress.COM/2015/11/11/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-by-oded-yinon-2/

          • Alexander Malinowski

            You wants to revert the evil that had happened 70 years ago in the previous century with evil right now???

            There are millions of Israelis, who are born in Palestine therefore have better claim to the land than Palestinians, who are not.

            Moreover, if you recognise claim of foreign-born Palestinians to their land, you must recognise claim of foreign-born Jews to their land.

            There are few other arguments. in 2035 there will 18 million people in Palestine. As you know Palestinians produce next to nothing, most are unemployed, live on charity. Only Israel, with modern economy, can provide living for all those people.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are being silly. Decent people want to undo the horror of the ZioNazi invasion.

            You are ignoring the fact that all the Zionists own is stolen land. They have no claim deserving of respect. The only claims deserving of respect are those that it was stolen from and their heirs, who stand ready to reclaim it.

            You have no genuine arguments, other than the arguments of genocidal country stealers.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Your aim shall be to reach the best state for all parties involved and not UNDO history.

            One cannot UNDO as I already explain to you: 1945 1.7 million people. 2035 will be 18 million people.

            You need to find solution that those people can live on very narrow strip of land without major natural resources.

            Besides you are wrong. If you are in possession of the land, you have claim. I have real doubts regarding heirs claim, as it is not obvious and disputable in any case.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are being absurd. History has shown that the Zionists are implacable thugs. Look! Even after they have stolen so much, they are viciously stealing more and more. There is no solution with people so dedicated to doing evil things to others by implacable greed. All their leaders have been war criminals…

            David Ben-Gurion — #1 — he commanded the ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Arabs during the destruction of hundreds of Palestinian villages in 1948
            ——————————————————————————–
            Levi Eshkol — #2 — he presided over the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Palestinians
            ——————————————————————————–
            Menachem Begin — #3 — he was the preeminent terrorist in the Middle East … until Ben-Gurion and Eshkol surpassed him
            ——————————————————————————–
            Ariel Sharon — #4 — a murderous war hawk, he was responsible for massacres at Qibya, Sabra and Shatila
            ——————————————————————————–
            Benjamin Netanyahu — #5 — he was responsible for the deaths and mutilations of thousands of children during Operations Cast Lead, Pillar of Defense and Protective Edge
            ——————————————————————————–
            Yitzhak Shamir — #6 — he had British and Swedish nobles murdered for seeking to have Arabs treated as equals of Jews
            ——————————————————————————–
            Ehud Barak — #7 — a cross-dressing assassin, he participated in death squads that killed women, policemen and a poet known as “The Conscience”
            ——————————————————————————–
            Golda Meir — #8 — she threatened to destroy the world with nukes during a BBC interview and more than once insisted that Palestinians “did not exist” as a people
            ——————————————————————————–
            Shimon Peres — #9 — he aggressively pursued nuclear weapons and succeeded in delivering them
            ——————————————————————————–
            Yitzhak Rabin — #10 — he signed an order for the children of Lydda to be ethnically cleansed “quickly, without attention to age”
            ——————————————————————————–
            Yigal Allon — #11 — he served in Special Night Squads which tortured and killed “without compunction”
            ——————————————————————————–
            Ehud Olmert — #12 — he presided over the 2006 invasion of Lebanon, which killed 1,300 people and displaced more than a million others
            ——————————————————————————–
            Moshe Sharett — #13 — he was a staunch proponent of compulsory population transfer (ethnic cleansing)
            ——————————————————————————–

            -> http://www.ziombieland.NET/2015/07/zionist-thug-life-in-palestine-1946.html

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Now read opinion on other side in order to have balanced view.
            You should train your brain by organising disputes, when you once play role of Palestinian, once Israeli.
            This could help in your personal development.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            My boy, I have read all the lies of you and the other ZioNazi thugs in much better form than your childish insolence can present.

            I’ve looked very hard for a justification of the invader Zionists. Would you like to lie me some more to tear apart?

            Why are you so demented that you think genocidal country stealing is okay? Don’t you ever try to look at it from the viewpoint of the victims?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            I cannot look from the point of view of victim if your claims are absurd. Please try to write some text that is logically consistent.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So the viewpoint of the victims of the ZioNazi genocidal country stealers is absurd to you? Are you a psychopath?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Second before you said you are not Palestinian, nor Muslim, nor Arab.
            Therefore you are not victim.

            However, what have you written doesn’t make sense. It is not consistent, nor logical.

            I bet you are Semite and they are very expressive. For us, Scandinavians it is simply silly. Instead of saying you lost a horse, you would claim you lost 100 elephants. Exaggeration.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I understand. You lack a sense of right and wrong. But that has been obvious from the start.

            What an idiot you are! I’m not a Semite either. Of course, you already know that I am not a morally bereft ZioNazi thug who can’t understand why other people might strenuously object to genocidal country stealing.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            If you are not Semite you have no explanation for your lack of logic in your statement.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            If you are not Semite you have no explanation for your lack of logic in your statement.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I have been reading your comments to Malinowski but cannot see what you were responding to because I had blocked him, but it is so easy to feel the frustration you were feeling, because none of what he said made sense.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Sometimes, I will take a block off temporarily for situations like this. But I can’t say it’s worth it here. He’s very insolent.

            The film you gave me I’ve watched before. Medhi Hassan is very good. He’s patient but firm and relentless with Zionist denial.

          • Helen4Yemen

            The one question that never gets asked is what is the Ashkenazi’s connection to Palestine -besides hocus pocus?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            A good question, but it could be regarded as outside the scope of the debate question.

          • Helen4Yemen

            No! A foreign people are occupying land thousands of miles away from their last known address and also they happen to be indistinguishable from the people of their last address – and yet claim to be genetically related to the distant people (a people of color). Since the seizure of Arab land was mainly based on this fraud, that fraud needs to be busted open and questions asked as to what might the reasons be why a European people have landed on Arab land. It does not get asked, because, these European foreigners may never consent to be interviewed by that person again, because they have no credible answer and they feel embarrassed and ashamed.

            ( I was shocked to hear Avi Shlaim say with no shame that he is ethnically Iraqi.)

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, I am not wrong. Stolen land is only stolen land. It is only the thief desperate for justification who claims his squatting by violence is a “claim”.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Stolen land can be claimed only with a state.

            If you talk between states you have only claim. And you just confirmed to me that claim of Palestinian people is not very good. Moreover, they can claim only small piece of land and they are very numerous. There were poor fellahin, who owned little and now is 10 claimants. If you divide it there will be not enough for any of them.

            To me this can be only used during peace talks as point. However, there must settlement and it shall solve the problem.

            The real problem is that there many Palestinians, who shall have normal life. They need house, job, car etc.

            Stop talking about stolen land, which is hilarious, and start talking about solving real issues.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you are a simply a thief, trying desperate to dissolve the crimes upon which you feast with phony arguments.

            The entire land belongs to the people living on it for millennia from whom it was stolen by the evil thugdom, whose leaders should be put on trial for war crimes, like those at Nuremberg.

            Sorry, as long as the Zionist thugs are in Palestine, they will kill and steal. It is proven by their history. They will never let the Palestinians have a “normal life.”

            The distribution of the recovered land is not your problem, but the problem of the people getting it returned. You only fabricate silly considerations to justify the continued theft of Palestine.

            Your utter lack of sincerity in resolution of the problem and your dedication to theft is proven by your calling the stolen land hilarious. You are a fake, a hypocrite, only interesting in securing more the evil Zionist imperative.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are being silly. Decent people want to undo the horror of the ZioNazi invasion.

            You are ignoring the fact that all the Zionists own is stolen land. They have no claim deserving of respect. The only claims deserving of respect are those that it was stolen from and their heirs, who stand ready to reclaim it.

            You have no genuine arguments, other than the arguments of genocidal country stealers.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            The second link is very misleading. The first map 1947 actually do not show reality as there were never such a category as Palestinians Land Ownership. It is easy to learn – read wiki and you will know. Most of Palestinians were poor tenants without right to land.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Sorry, that’s a false narrative. The true one is that the Palestinians have been in Palestine continuously for over ten thousand years under many names, rulers, and religions, far longer than anything called Jewish even existed, including the last two thousand years, when the invader European Zionist Ashkenazi certainly weren’t, if ever.

            Only by theft is the land not theirs, such as in the Ottoman “land reform” of 1856. Stolen land remains stolen land, no matter if it is fraudulently purchased by genocidal invaders.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            “Palestinians have been in Palestine continuously for over ten thousand years ”

            Obviously false and nobody can claim it.

            Palestine was never one unit, this is area of some many units of Ottoman Empire.

            Moreover, people were coming and going.

            There were never any distinct Palestinian identity, until mid 20th century.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Again, you stupid confuse ownership by people with government authority. Anything to justify a genocidal country stealing by the ZioNzi thugs!

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Eligthen me, but truthfully. Not claiming some absurds.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            If plain English can’t enlighten you, then you are lost forever to the savage ZioNazi thug con game.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Enlighten me.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Enlighten me.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            “Palestinians have been in Palestine continuously for over ten thousand years ”

            Obviously false and nobody can claim it.

            Palestine was never one unit, this is area of some many units of Ottoman Empire.

            Moreover, people were coming and going.

            There were never any distinct Palestinian identity, until mid 20th century.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            What has happened in 1856 by Ottoman land reform?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Ownership was fraudulently transferred from the Fellahin to absentee Ottoman officials and their friend. Look it up.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Yeah. Those things happen constantly. Land transfers from hand to hand.
            Turks did it in 19th century.
            Brits were the best didn’t do it.
            Israelis did similar staff in 20th century.

            In my country there were at least 2 waves of land transfers (fraudulent land transfers). This is quite normal.

            Moreover, you want to cover here, that Palestinians didn’t have proper claims to the land even in 1948.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Very common to the ZioNazi thugs frantically seeking justification for their crimes is the confusion of the personal ownership of the land with the governing agent. Then in their duplicity, they throw in the premise that anything they steal is now indispuably theirs.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            If a thug steal your land than you take a land record and claim land back.
            However, in most cases a thug is coming and showing you land record, as it indeed happen after Ottoman land reform.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Silly boy, your murderous ZioNazi thugs had them running with panic. Moreover, the incredibly evil ZioNazi thugs bulldozed their homes and villages, buried them, and adamantly refused the people the right to claim their property or access to courts with jurisdiction.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Maybe. However there still 2 million Arabs in Israel. Somehow they have land claims.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you ZioNazi thugs have most of the ones with claims safely shut away in refugee camps.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Why haven’t you told it from the start?

            Look. Repeating around some silly propaganda, instead if talking sense.

            I told you, you look silly. Talk sense.

            What has happened to those land claims?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Silly boy! The sealed refugee camps are common knowledge.

            Who knows what happened to those land claims? The ZioNazi thugs buried the land beneath parks, and never let the people return to press their claims.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Maybe. However there still 2 million Arabs in Israel. Somehow they have land claims.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You already yammered that.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you ZioNazi thugs have most of the ones with claims safely shut away in refugee camps.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Maybe. However there still 2 million Arabs in Israel. Somehow they have land claims.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Silly boy, your murderous ZioNazi thugs had them running with panic. Moreover, the incredibly evil ZioNazi thugs bulldozed their homes and villages, buried them, and adamantly refused the people the right to claim their property or access to courts with jurisdiction.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            What has happened in 1856 by Ottoman land reform?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Here is Ralph Schoenman:

            “Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu (real name: Mileikowsky) is descendant from people who have no relation to Palestine, historic or other, because Ashkenazim or European Jews such as Mr. Netanyahu or ourselves for that matter are in fact descendants of the Khazars, an 8th and 9th century empire that converted to Judaism at that time from which European Jews are descended. Indeed, as I have often discussed, if one wanted scientific data which demonstrates the ethnic origin of European Jewry, here is the point: European Jews are susceptible to a genetic condition known Tay-Sachs disease, it is analogous to what African Americans suffer, sickle cell anemia. What is interesting about this is that only European Jews are susceptible to this genetic trait. No Semitic people is. That means none of the Jews form the Arab East, Yemen or Iraq or North Africa or any of the areas of the region, because like their Arab brothers and sisters as are the Arab Jews. The point is very ironic as we have often made it and I think we should take a brief moment to emphasize this – who do you think was converted to the prostzling and dynamic Islamic religion in the 6th century? The indigenous inhabitants. They were Jews, they were non-believers, they were people of various local religious other views, animist views. The irony of all this is the Palestinian people have greater genetic link to the Jews of the region by descent than certainly the Ashkenazim who have no relation to the region whatsoever. So this is essentially a racist and pseudo scientific attempt historically to lay claim to an area and to translate their god into a real estate agent. There is no remote scintilla of evidence to establish a relationship between Jews in the world today and this region. None whatsoever, because the Jews of the period were expelled to Babylonia and the remaining tribes were entirely assimilated to the populations of the area. And indeed they are the antecedent of the Palestinian population, they have a greater relationship to the Hebrews of the early period than any Ashkenazim, none whatsoever by way of punctuating the irony and the point about the nature of a colonial settler project as an instrument of imperial conquest.”

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Genetic studies on Ashkenazim—researching both their paternal and maternal lineages—point to a significant prevalence of West Asian origins.

            Khazar theory is incorrect.
            Ashkenazy came to Ukraine from Germany and not vice-versa.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Khazars are West Asian-East European. So you are probably Khazars, not Germans.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Khazars are Turks. Doesn’t matter.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So then the Ashkenazi are a branch of Turks who speak a Slavish language, Yiddish. They have no visible connection to Palestine, certainly much less than the people who have lived there many millennia continuously.

            If it doesn’t matter, then let’s get the alien Ashkenazi genocidal country stealers out of Palestine. They have been viciously assaulting the people of the Middle East ever since they first invaded for the purpose of seizing as much land as possible and driving the indigenes out.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            #1 Yiddish is German language
            #2 Genetic researches confirm that Ashkenazi can trace their origins to Palestine

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, Yiddish is Slavic based with some German additions

            No, the genetic information depends who is reporting it, and is very easy to fake. But the genetic diseases are impossible to fake.

            The fake remains that Palestinian ancestry for the Ashkenazi is at best pure supposition, and an extremely weak claim for people who have been continuously in Palestine for over ten thousand years.

            Actually, the two thousand year absence you claim makes your claim just as silly.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            #1 Yiddish is German language
            #2 Genetic researches confirm that Ashkenazi can trace their origins to Palestine

          • Alexander Malinowski

            he genetic Study of the Israelite genome has conclusively stated that the Ashkenazi Jews have a gene that is related to the Israelites.

            The Hypnosis that all the Ashkenazi Jews came from Khazar is false. This thought line came only from a Author who wrote about the Khazars being the thirteenth tribe of the Israelite’s, some genetic researchers has used this book as the bases of their studies.

            New research which is backed by other studies into the genome of Jews has conclusive shown that the Ashkenazi Jews, did migrate from the ME to Italy and into Germany, some Jews did migrate to Khazar but they became the Mountain Jews in the Caucus and they did not migrate into Europe.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1-“Israelites” is like saying Santa Clause. They never existed except in
            hocus-pocus. There is no evidence, none.

            2- Here is scientific proof that Ashkenazi have no genetic relation to the Semitic Arab Jew:

            ——————————————————————————–
            “We tested 3,104 Jewish individuals, primarily of Ashkenazi descent, for the two most common FAC mutations, IVS4 and 322delG. Thirty-five IVS4 carriers were identified, for a carrier frequency of 1 in 89. To determine if the IVS4 mutation was confined to the Ashkenazi Jewish population, we tested 563 Iraqi Jews for IVS4, and no carriers were found. Because the IVS4 mutation has only been found on chromosomes of Ashkenazi Jewish origin.”

            (Source: Laboratory of Human Genetics and Hematology, Rockefeller University, New York, NY 10021-6399, USA)
            ——————————————————————————–

          • Alexander Malinowski

            In genetics the progress is so fast that new research nullifies the old one.

            As I said it is enough that a guy with the new mutation was born between 300AD and 1948, most likely around 1000 AD then European Jews will have those mutations.

            What I have read Ashkenazy are actually descendants of very few people, who came and multiplied hundred times.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Ajnabee, ajnabee!”

            When the Ashkenazi come to our region, the children start to follow them by shouting ‘ajnabee, ajnabee’, meaning ‘foreigner, foreigner!’. How do the children know when a foreigner is sighted on the land? They know because European Jews look distinctively European. What happens when Arab Jews arrive, such Amir Peretz? Nothing. The Arab Jews are totally indistinguishable from the rest of the Arabs whereas the Ashkenzi stick out as a foreigners just like the Italians or Germans. Got it? Love the Europeans skin that you were born wrapped around with. It is a disgrace, a total disgrace for you to want to be other people, a people of color.

            “Ashkenazi” and “Semitic” are mutually exclusive.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Yes, some Ashkenazy have a lot of European substrate in female lines, as they were allowed to have slaves.
            There were law that they have to free Christian slaves after 10-years. They usually married slave after 10 years slavery and they received some European blood.
            This however doesn’t matter as they are distinct from Europeans anyway.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You must hate being European!

          • Alexander Malinowski

            History, one cannot repeal.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But the Ashkenazi are famous for fabricating whatever history they want to have.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            History might be fabricated but reality is as it is.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Especially if you are busy fabricating excuses for horrifying genocidal country stealing. This is how the European Ashkenazi thugdom was established.

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

          • Alexander Malinowski

            We are talking about 18 million people soon (2035).

            How many of those 600 000 is still alive?
            Villages must have been anyway bulldozed as it happens everywhere in the world. In any case there is no possibility to fit 18 000 000 people into 600 villages. People move to the cities and it s normal process, which would have happened anyway.

            I see this as minor problem to be discussed and solved.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You savage ZioNazi thugs sealed them out of Palestine into refugee camps.

            They never moved to any fvcking city!

            A minor problem? You are lost! The ZioNazi thugs never, ever let any of them get their land and homes back. Remember? They bulldozed them and buried them!

          • Alexander Malinowski

            What is with 2 millions of Arabs, citizens of Israel?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            They would be delighted to see the ZioNazi thugs leave too.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            You are simply Hamas troll.

          • Helen4Yemen

            So you say, the male Jews from Palestine left without the female Jews, right?
            Went to Europe and produce ‘half-breeds’ of Jews and Europeans, right?
            That would make them 50% European, right?

            What happened to the female Jewesses left behind? Who did they marry since all the male Jews had left? Got an answer?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            No.
            They never got status of natives in Europe before 19th century.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Do you understand English?

            1- You say the Ashkenazi now in Europe left Palestine and multiplied in Europe right?

            2- Did the ‘Jewish women” from Palestine also go with them to Europe?

            3- If no, then who did the Jewish women left behind marry since their Jewish men left the area?

            Can you just answer what I am asking?

            This makes no sense=>”They never got status of natives in Europe before 19th century.”

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Nobody knows really. Ask historians.

            What I read that there were some small number of people, who suddenly since 18th century multiplied 100 times and became people of many million.

            Just like Palestinians, who were hundred thousands and now they are millions and maybe there will more than 10 000 000.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, when you do NOT know what you speak of, just guessing?

            Why should I ask historians? I thought you were telling me first you know how the ‘Israelite’ left for Europe and became white but retaining ‘Jewish dna’. blah, blah,?

            You did not answer: Who do the Jewesses left behind marry? Got an answer?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            First population records we have from 18th century Sweden.
            In Russia population records were faulty even in 20th century. How you could proof something for sure for 14th century or before???

          • Helen4Yemen

            I asked you since you claim the male Jews left Palestine to go to Europe and married Europeans, I am now asking you for THIRD time who did the Jewish women left behind marry? Got answer? If you do not know, simply say you do not know.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            We don’t have records. There is general information that Ashkenzy did originate in Palestine, but have some foreign ingredients.

          • Helen4Yemen

            you sound not intelligent. I got you with that question, right? Because all that hocus-pocus about ‘exodus’ does not make sense. Just rubbish!

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Not Exodus (from Egypt). Diaspora.

            However, if you cannot prove the story is not true…

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did the Jewish women also do ‘diaspora’ from Palestine?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Suppose yes. Romans were not barbarians. They didn’t rape woman like Muslims.

          • Helen4Yemen

            BLOCKED!

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Moroccans made massive rapes in Italy in 1944 during WW2.
            Ottomans did it ever.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I don’t blame her. That last statement of yours was probably your most stupid.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Listen.

            Your claims are absolute garbage.
            It is plainly stupid.

            You need completely change the way you communicate. No rational people would talk with you.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did the Jewish women also do ‘diaspora’ from Palestine?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Not Exodus (from Egypt). Diaspora.

            However, if you cannot prove the story is not true…

          • Helen4Yemen

            you sound not intelligent. I got you with that question, right? Because all that hocus-pocus about ‘exodus’ does not make sense. Just rubbish!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ok. came to the end of the road. Not interested in communicating with you.

            ==> Goodbye!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            One thing I note. That these Zionist trolls may not start out so badly, but they disintegrate terribly after you shred their sad arguments, often into total incoherency.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You know, scratch beneath the surface of their hasbara, and it crumlbes on the slightest touch. Remember the ‘exodus’, then they say only the men left and married Europeans, right? Then they became 50% ‘Israelite’. They claim a Jew is one born out of a “Jewish mother’. But there were no ‘Jewish mothers’ in Europe when they first did the ‘exodus’. And you ask what happened to the Jewish women left behind? No answer? Because it is all hocus-pocus. The truth is that present day Ashkenazi were formerly known as Khazars.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You must watch this video. There are “Jews’ Shlomo Ben Ami (made up names)
            Avi Shlaim (he claims to be Iraqi -he is an Ashkenazi) and an arrogant settler and a Palestinian woman. Tough questions were asked that made the foreign people in Palestine squirm. Really, it is a great video.

            https://www.youtube.^com/watch?v=tC1rRPdDIpg

          • Helen4Yemen

            You must watch this video. There are “Jews’ Shlomo Ben Ami (made up names) Avi Shlaim (he claims to be Iraqi -he is an Ashkenazi) and an arrogant settler and a Palestinian woman. Tough questions were asked that made the foreign people in Palestine squirm. Really, it is a great video.

            https://www.^youtube.^com/watch?v=tC1rRPdDIpg

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Thanks! I’ll watch it.

            In curiosity I took a look at what the Jewish Virtual Library said about Khazars and Ashkenazi. You might want to check it out, because this seems to be the basis of what some Zionist trolls throw out…

            -> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.ORG/jsource/Judaism/khazars.html
            -> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.ORG/jsource/Judaism/Ashkenazim.html

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ok, I know I will be laughing to watch logic walking on its head.

          • Helen4Yemen

            A couple of excerpts from the two links you provided. Without opening the links, I could have accurately guessed what the contents would be like. You see, If they give up their ancestral claim to Palestine, then they feel worthless and Palestine slips from their hands. I do not want to be them, always wanting to be someone else and yet so vividly European. It is a horrible way to live this life – with no identity
            _______________

            “The Khazars were a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time it was alleged that the leading Khazars professed Judaism, but recent research done by Hebrew University historian Professor Shaul Stampfer suggests that a Khazar conversion to Judaism never occured.”

            “An international team of scientists announced on September 9 2014 that they had come to the conclusion that all Ashkenazi Jews are descended from an original group of about 350 individuals who lived between 600 and 800 years ago. These people were of Middle-Eastern and European descent. “

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Do you feel suspicious about that?

            The first was from a single professor at Hebrew University where there would be a lot of support for reports apparently validating Ashkenazi ancestors being from Palestine.

            The second seems to require an awful lot of successful breeding after an awful of failure to propagate. The JVL claims that this report was from an international team, but only one researcher from Columbia U. is actually referenced. The basic report in Nature is hidden, and I can’t access it. I would think that if this stuff was securely genuine, it would have been much more widely published. Moreover, this Columbia Associate Professor seems to be involved in presenting a long of archelogical find very speculatively. The only thing that looks genuine is a carving with “proto-Hebrew”, which could have been picked up elsewhere very easily, e.g. Yemen.

            But it’s good to know that this stuff could be coming at you.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I did a google search on Ashkenazi are middle eastern and lots of the articles are trying to link a European people to the Arabs. As I said, the Jews collectively would be willing to pay a trillion dollars to keep the illusion and fraud that they are from the M/E.

            https://www.^google.^com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ashkenazi+are+middle+eastern&start=20

          • Helen4Yemen

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/binyamin-arazi/reclaiming-jewish-identit_b_7715528.html

            The ‘huff-post’ could not survive without her horrible and false articles,
            this is one of thousands of fraudulent posting.

          • Helen4Yemen

            http://www.^huffingtonpost.^com/binyamin-arazi/reclaiming-jewish-identit_b_7715528.html

            The ‘huff-post’ could not survive without her horrible and false articles,
            this is one of thousands of fraudulent posting.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            This huffpost piece claims that the Khazar theory is debunked, but the research says ‘no evidence’ and tells why…

            No Evidence from Genome-Wide Data of a Khazar Origin for the Ashkenazi Jews

            -> http://digitalcommons.wayne.EDU/humbiol_preprints/41/

            Because the Khazar population has left no obvious modern descendants that could enable a clear test for a contribution to Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, the Khazar hypothesis has been difficult to examine using genetics. Furthermore, because only limited genetic data have been available from the Caucasus region, and because these data have been concentrated in populations that are genetically close to populations from the Middle East, the attribution of any signal of Ashkenazi-Caucasus genetic similarity to Khazar ancestry rather than shared ancestral Middle Eastern ancestry has been problematic.

          • Helen4Yemen

            ” the attribution of any signal of Ashkenazi-Caucasus genetic similarity to Khazar ancestry rather than shared ancestral Middle Eastern ancestry has been problematic.”

            Meaning what? Connecting the Ashkenazi to Khazaria had been problematic.
            When you consider that these Ashkenazi have no connection -zero-to the M/E, this statement is doing a little dance around the table.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Very simply, it means that the question cannot be settled by genetic means. There are no identifiable Khazar genes to test the Ashkenazi.

            The debunking claim is bunk, spurious, a deception by the desperate.

          • Helen4Yemen

            OK, but there are millions of Arabs and I am telling you there is no connection between these Europeans and the Arabs. They dread nothing more than their fraud of genetic link being exposed.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Something is very fishy. Now Haaretz is reporting that not only Yemeni immigrants lost babies but also Ashkenazi. Haretz had never reported this story before and coming in the heels of the Yemeni Jews’ stories makes me wonder if this is to say that there was no racism, to make the Yemeni Jews feel not so bad, I smell some political agenda of this article..fishy.

            “The background of the families involved “shows it was not racism of Ashkenazim against Sephardim, but patronizing and arrogance by veterans against new [immigrants],” says a woman who is still searching for her sister who disappeared just a few days after she was born. http://www.^haaretz.^com/israel-news/.premium-1.736574

          • Helen4Yemen

            Something is very fishy. Now Haaretz is reporting that not only Yemeni immigrants lost babies but also Ashkenazi. Haretz had never reported this story before and coming in the heels of the Yemeni Jews’ stories makes me wonder if this is to say that there was no racism, to make the Yemeni Jews feel no so bad ..fishy.

            “The background of the families involved “shows it was not racism of Ashkenazim against Sephardim, but patronizing and arrogance by veterans against new [immigrants],” says a woman who is still searching for her sister who disappeared just a few days after she was born. http://www.^haaretz.^com/israel-news/.premium-1.736574

          • Helen4Yemen

            A people without shame.
            _______________
            “Our analysis shows that Ashkenazi Jewish medieval founders were ethnically admixed, with origins in Europe and in the Middle East, roughly in equal parts,” says Dr. Shai Carmi, a post-doctoral scientist who works with Pe’er and who conducted the analysis. “TAGC data are more comprehensive than what was previously available, and we believe the data settle the dispute regarding European and Middle Eastern ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews. Our data provide evidence for today’s European population being genetically descended primarily from late Middle Eastern migrations that took place after the last Ice Age, rather than from the first humans to arrive to the continent, more than 40,000 years ago.”

            http://www^.jpost^.com/Israel-News/Health/Mapping-the-DNA-sequence-of-Ashkenazi-Jews-376453

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            It makes claims with absolutely no evidence or argument presented. It looks like another hoax for the Zionist con game.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Hehe! They know the world does not buy their fraud. Hehe

            “Lastly, Ashkenazi Jews, whether the world likes it or not (and apparently it does not), are direct descendants of the Tribes of Israel, as we know from history, culture, science and a little something I like to call reality.”

            https://www.^traditionalright^.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ok. came to the end of the road. Not interested in communicating with you.

            ==> Goodbye!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are a liar. The Germans gave them full citizenship in 1822 and wonderful educational opportunities too.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Germans?
            Which German state? There were many of them.
            Second question: how big number of European Jews lived at that time in Germany? Much later there were 5-10%.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Prussia.

            I thought you wouldn’t be able to figure that out.

            I am done with you.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            In 1822 Prussia didnt have sizeable Jewish population.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Yea, it is like talking to a wall!
            I really do understand why the European people had such a hard time with them.

          • Blake

            Dont waste your time on him is my advice. They heard ancient fairytales of tribes who wandered the Middle east and bizarrely believed they were them – the kooshim

          • Helen4Yemen

            Thanks – but I already blocked him.

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi married European slaves?

            When and in what part of Europe did this occur?

          • GIVVO6_B

            Jewish
            heritage comes through the female line and not through female European concubines. So the Askenazim are frauds, is that what you are saying?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            We have following information: Jewishness is inherited through female line
            we have also genetic tests that points to some deviation from that policy.
            I would like to point out that in some dynasties we have detected that assumed father is not real father of successor in several cases.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you have not just one genetic mutation peculiarly suffered by Ashkenazi, but over forty! Meanwhile, all Semite populations in the Middle East have their own distinct set of genetic mutations.

          • Mike Abramov

            This genetic research is irrelevant. being a Jew is not about being descended from the Jewish race, it’s about how you feel. Take Yvonne Ridley for example. She is a convert to Islam because that is how she feels. Does this mean that in your eyes Helen she is not a Muslim because she has Anglo-Celtic-Saxon genes?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Sorry, the savage European ZioNazi thugs have been demonstrated not to have any ancestral rights in Palestine. Arab Jews do have rights, along with other Arabs, but not the savage Ashkenazi European thugs.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You do not understand. Jews believe that they are a ‘race’, they believe they have ‘Jewish blood’, they believe their ancestry is Palestine, they believe their dna is from the M/E. All of it nonsense. I view Jews just like Muslims and Christians, all of many races, ethnicity, all converts. “Jews” need to dispense with the nonsense of origin to Palestine.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Israelite genome? What is that? Where are there reports of the discovery of an ancient “Israelite genome”?

          • Blake

            What a load of bs. One look at you alone can debunk that bull. You never ‘left’ brown bedouin and ‘returned’ pasty white slavics. And how does that justify stealing land from a people whose parent tree goes even further back to when ‘israelites; first sojourned there. You have zero rationale I wont even bother giving you anymore attention.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            One don’t know how those who left looked like.
            Moreover, Ashkenazy are quite isolated group. Maybe not completely, but quite isolated.
            One cannot claim that “parent tree goes even further back to when ‘israelites; first sojourned there. “. this is not true and in any case cannot be proven

            Every invasion (Persian, Byzantine, Arab, Mongol, Turks, Mameluks, Ottomans) and many small war brought certainly havoc on local population. Nobody knows, who really came and when.

            People living in the draft cannot claim steady lineage to Biblical times like Icelanders.

          • Helen4Yemen

            //What a load of bs. One look at you alone can debunk that bull.//

            Oh, please copy and paste the comment you are replying to since I blocked him and cannot see any of his comments. He said what? He left brown? There is also another version where they say that everyone in Palestine looked just like Europeans, right and when the ‘Jews’ left, naturally, they blended in with the Europeans, did not change color, but the Palestinians left behind who were ‘white’ became brown due to the son (the same son that did not touch ‘the Jews’ before ‘exodus’. It gets so convoluted and so tiresome.

            //when ‘israelites; first sojourned there.//
            That ‘Israelite’ is just like Santa Clause.

          • Mike Abramov

            It’s no good you joining in this discussion as you are colour prejudice.

          • Helen4Yemen

            16 July 1965 Interview of Ben Gurion (see link below)

            BEN-GURION: Can I tell you something that is not to be published, which is only to be used for the Archives?

            BAYNE: This is it.

            BEN-GURION: You see, while we were talking he (Kennedy) stood up and took me to a corner far away from the people there. There was Mr. Talbot, our Ambassador, and (Kennedy’s) secretary, Mr. Feldman. He took me away from them and said, “I was elected by the Jews.” Later, I understood this is usual in America. He said to me, “You know I was elected by the Jews. I have to do something for them.” I was shocked. I’m a foreigner; I represent a small state. I didn’t come to him as a Jew, as a voter. And he told me, “You know, I was elected by the Jews of New York. I will do something for you.” I was a little shocked when he said it to me. Then we went back and continued our conversation. This I remember because I was thoroughly impressed, but later I understood that this is usual and in keeping with American politics.

            BAYNE: I see. He wouldn’t have wanted that, perhaps, an open admission of history, but to international relations…

            BEN-GURION: Yes. He took me into a corner at a far away table because we were sitting all together here, and took me over—something like that. [Laughter]

            https://www. jfklibrary. org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKOH-DB-01.aspx

          • Mike Abramov

            OK, so now you expect me to give you examples of the politics of Nasser and how he plotted to become head of all the Arab states. You are an angry lady and anger prevents you from thinking rationally.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          Not really agreed, as there were at least 3 wars and there is still no final reconciliation.
          Moreover, the expulsion of Sikh from Punjab is comparable more with genocide, not with what you describe.

        • Mike Abramov

          Now that I have a chance to digest what you have said, here is my reply. Gandhi was vehemently against Gina in partitioning India. There was no need for a separate Muslim country but, the poor uneducated Muslims of the Punjab had no choice. The educated Muslims in India remained in to become part the unified India. Now, there are more Muslims in India than there are in the whole of Israel/Pakistan. Sorry, but your argument is about your interpretation of what country a Jew should come from to qualify as a resident of Palestine. So, my family are from Samarkand. Am I allowed under your sense of segregation to emigrate to Israel/Palestine?

      • Helen4Yemen

        You need to take logic 101! Your logic is so flawed!

        Pakistan and India
        Britain and Ireland
        Ethiopia and Eritrea
        Sudan and S. Sudan

        These are people who lived on the same land but did not get along and their common land had to be partitioned. The case of the Ashkenazi is a European foreign people who came from thousands of miles away, a people who never even set foot on the land, a people foreign to the land and used bribery, intimidation, trickery, deceit to steal Arab land. Here is a link posted at none other than the Truman Online Library that gives a detailed account of how Europoean Ashkenazi stole Palestine. It is a MUST READ.
        ____________

        (Wikipedia) Edwin M. Wright was an American foreign policy specialist. Employed by the U.S. State Department from 1945 to 1955 in a number of capacities, he was especially involved in the events leading up to and surrounding the establishment of Israel. In particular, he served as a Middle East specialist from 1945 to 1946; on the Bureau for Near East, South Asian, and African Affairs from 1946 to 1947; as an advisor on United Nations affairs from 1947 to 1950, and as an advisor on intelligence from 1950 to 1955

        The Edwin M Wright Interview

        https://www.
        trumanlibrary.
        org/oralhist/wright.htm

        • Mike Abramov

          My Dear Helen – Very few accounts of history are written without a degree of bias. To the English, Sir Francis Drake was a hero. To the Spanish, he was a pirate and thief. I have already read about the role of Edwin M. Wright in my studies. My concern is your attitude to race. If we draw the parallel with the USA, do you campaign equally for the native Americans who were destroyed by European colonialists…..who came from thousands of miles away? Or, the Europeans who stole land from the Aborigines in Australia>

          • Helen4Yemen

            True, what the Ashkenazi in Palestine have in common with the European colonists in N.America, Australia and others is that the colonizer were Europeans and the colonized inidgenous. But America and Australia are ancient history. Tell me how many natives are willing to die by killing the colonizers in this day and age in America or Australia? None. But the Ashkenazi in Palestine colonzed a land of a people who are surrounded by 400 million of their Arab brothers not to mention the 1.7 billion Muslims. The Ashkenazi’s project is doomed to fail and fail miserably.
            ………
            || Benny Morris:– — Look at history, these two peoples are going to live quietly together? Who are we kidding? They are going to kill each other and the Arabs will probably end up winning and the Jews will leave… if there ever is a binational state.” (Jewish Chronicle interview of Benny Morris by By Simon Rocker June 23 2011) ||

          • GIVVO6_B

            Yes and to me Yitzhak Shamir and Menachem Begin were odious bloody Nazis that should have been executed along with the Nuremberg gang. Their racist crimes were totally inexcusable.

          • Skeptikc

            Mike Abramov- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

            Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
            youtube^.^com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            ^remove accents from url^

        • Eduardo Pinha

          You deny the fact the the jewish people have been connect to the Land of Israel for thousands of years, the Ashkenasi too. You denial for jewish self determination makes no sense.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Here is a test for the European Jews.
            Look in the mirror, who is staring back?
            Don’t be shy. Just answer the question —

            a) Chinese
            b) M/E
            c) European
            d) African
            e) Japanese

            What is your answer?

          • Skeptikc

            Jews= Sephardim, Ashkenazim, Falashim, others?

            Ashkenazim= Khazars = serpent people = Caucasians (Europeans)?

            3 Gold stars?

            Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
            youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            *remove stars from url*

          • Helen4Yemen

            Here is a test for the European Jews.
            Look in the mirror, who is staring back?
            Don’t be shy. Just answer the question —

            a) Chinese
            b) M/E
            c) European
            d) African
            e) Japanese

            What is your answer?

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi have more then 40 genetic diseases that none of the Arab Jews have – clear indication that the Ashkenazi have no genetic relations to any in the region

            _________

            We tested 3,104 Jewish individuals, primarily of Ashkenazi descent, for the two most common FAC mutations, IVS4 and 322delG. Thirty-five IVS4 carriers were identified, for a carrier frequency of 1 in 89. To determine if the IVS4 mutation was confined to the Ashkenazi Jewish population,

            we tested 563 Iraqi Jews for IVS4, and no carriers were found. Because the IVS4 mutation has only been found on chromosomes of Ashkenazi Jewish origin,

            (Source: Laboratory of Human Genetics and Hematology, Rockefeller University, New York, NY 10021-6399, USA)

          • Skeptikc

            The Ashkenazi are not Jews by race but by religion. They’re Khazar by race, hailing from a region now found in Ukraine – Georgia, hence they’re Caucasians, not Semites. Thus, “anti-Semitism” is nonsense when applied to Caucasian Ashkenazis- just another lie from the Rothschild media propaganda empire!

            They’re not Semites at all & never developed the dark skin that came from living under the desert sun. The Khazars were called the serpent people- understandably so, witnessing their dubious behaviour in Israel, a land foreign to them- at about the same time as their mass conversion to Judaism in the 7th century, and prior to their waves of immigration to Europe and long before the theft of Palestine to house the parasite, Israel.

            Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
            Search you tube 68rMTRhqKok or “Icke rothschild zionism”

          • Eduardo Pinha

            This so called Khazar lie theory only stands in your sick minds. It makes no sense whatsoever, does not stand to history or genetics. It´s a fraud theory that only exists to delegitmize the fair and just existence of modern Israel. Get used, Israel is there and the jewish are actual human beings.

          • Skeptikc

            Why don’t you shut up your propaganda mouth you low class, illiterate human trash? I’ve already asked you to refer to the Jewish Encyclopedia to check this reference out. If you are simply too stupid or lazy or illiterate or all of the above, to do so, then why don’t you close your mouth, put your propaganda tail between your legs and get lost? It’s my best advice to brain-dead scum such as yourself! 😉

            Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
            Search you tube 68rMTRhqKok or “Icke rothschild zionism”

          • Alexander Malinowski

            As of 2015 Khazar theory is proved wrong.

        • Eduardo Pinha

          You deny the fact the the jewish people have been connect to the Land of Israel for thousands of years, the Ashkenasi too. You denial for jewish self determination makes no sense.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          However, Palestinians now are similar to Ashkenazi as most of them no more were born in country they claim.
          On the other hand, most of Israelis are now country-born.

          I assume that you are against right to return for foreign born Palestinians and you support rights for land for country born Israelis?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Look in the mirror and none other than a vividly European is staring back at you.

            Therefore, by your logic, the Ashkenazi stampedes from his Europe towards Palestine , expels the natives, starts to breed with other Ashkenazi and the newly hatched Ashkenazi become natives and the natives who were expelled become foreigners?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Actually I am not ashkenazy and those I know are clearly Semitic people.

            They are different than Europeans and quite common to Arabs. Clearly Semitic people that belong to Middle East.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am Semitic and one look at you and I know that you are not! Stop identity theft. I see nothing wrong with being a European or African or Asian or Arab. The problem is with the European Ashkenazi having total hatred for their identity and wanting to latch onto my identity. Stop identity theft. ‘Ashkenazi” and ‘Semitic’ are mutually exclusive.

            Get this: Arab Jews are the brothers and sisters of the Arab people but only CORELIGIONISTS of Ashkenazi Jews. Arabs Jews lived in peace and harmony with their Arab brothers and sisters while European Jews were hated for centuries. Arab Jews were brought to Palestine by the white Jews as cheap labor to replace the 900 Palestinians that the Europeans ethnically cleansed from their land. The arrival of the foreign non-Semitic Ashkenazi Jews from Europe to Arab Palestine disturbed the peaceful coexistence of all Arabs.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            I am not Jewish, sorry.

      • Helen4Yemen

        || is it that you have singled out the Jewish homeland because you have a problem with Jews?||

        The Ashkenazi came from thousands of miles away feeling his God is his real estate agent.
        The Ashkenazi is European and should have erected his state on European soil.

        • Eduardo Pinha

          So, according to you, if Germany decide to expell all Turks, Britain all Indian and France all African that would be just fine.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          Jews have never been treated as Europeans and they always looked like Middle East, Semitic people.

      • GIVVO6_B

        The Jews just showed up and stole the land. Hopefully they will be removed the same way they removed the Palestinians as the Zionist Jews were not even in Palestine in 1917. Self determination is irrelevant when it comes to aliens who want to steal land.

        • Mike Abramov

          Sir – Where does your information come from? I am trying to work out in my mind how you steal land. Is it when the Arabs were looking the other way? Was it at night time when everyone was asleep? No.The land was granted as a result of a democratic decision by the UN. Prior to that, Jews had bought land from the Arabs for fifty years prior to 1948. The money came from fund-raising and savings. This is clearly documented in many books on 20th century history. By-the-way, Zionism existed in 1917 Palestine and before.

          • Skeptikc

            Why don’t you give it a break, sometime, you Rothschild Zionist shill?

            Rothschild Zionism – the elephant in the room
            youtube@.@com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            @remove stars from url@

        • Alexander Malinowski

          You say that Jews hadn’t been born in Palestine therefore they had no rights to the land.However, most of Palestinians are not born in the country they claim. Moreover, most of Israelis are native-born.

          Following your reasoning Palestinians have no more right to steal the land from native Israelis. Is it correct?

          • GIVVO6_B

            No they are the progeny of violent immigrants. The Palestinians exist in spite of the lies of that old hag Golda Meyerson. They existed all through the British mandate and the time of the Ottoman Empire. Zionist hasbara is just basically lies. The Jews were a tiny minority in the country before the massive Zionist emigration after WW2. Donkeys born in Newmarket are not transformed into race horses.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            It is not true.
            Jewish population was about 31% in 1945.
            1945 Total 1,764,520
            Muslim 1,061,270 (60%)
            Jewish 553,600 (31%)
            Christian 135,550 (8%)
            Other 14,100 (1%)

            Moreover, official Mandate of Palestine act dated 1922 supported right of Jews to immigrate to the country.

          • GIVVO6_B

            There are no native Israelis as Israel is merely stolen Palestinian land and the thieves should not be rewarded as they are criminals and need punishment.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            If somebody is born in the country and the citizen therefore he has full rights.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          This is not true. in 1922 by British Census there were 80 000 Jews or just 11%. Moreover, the constitution of Mandate included condition to support Jewish immigration. Therefore there were at least 550 000 Jews or 30% in 1945.

      • Skeptikc

        Mike Abramov- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

        Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
        youtube%.%com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

        %remove stars from url%

  • William Dean Ziemer

    Yes! It was a freakin’ crime against humanity for sure!.The filthy Jews went in and turned a serene, fairly sparsely populated and desolate area into a highly productive, garden of Eden where thousands of people of every faith and walk of life can live in peace… well, they could live in peace if the heathens next door would try to be human.

    Oh… and didn’t the Brits turn around and supply the feakin’ Arab, Muslim Terrorists with arms?
    OOPS! Sorry… I’m spilling my ignorance all over your nice clean fiction.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Question: What connects the European Ashkenazi to Palestine? Nothing! The Ashkenazi are Europeans who were hated by Europeans and all the lands that were consider to settle (dump) these unfortunate Europeans were all lands belonging to people-of-color: Argentina, Uganda, Kenya, Cyprus, Palestine. What have people of color got to do with white Europeans unwanted on their own European soil? There is one and only one reason why these Europeans have not been sent packing back to their homelands in Russia, Poland, Germany, Lithuania, etc. and that reason is the split in Islam between Shia and Sunni. The European foreigners in Palestine depend on this split for their survival.

      • William Dean Ziemer

        You are going to have to do a better job at expressing this idea… what ever it is and how ever you are intending it to relate to this article.

        But in any case, the people of Israel being gathered from every corner of the earth to once again occupy the land that their ancestors once conquered and possessed for a few thousand years, was written about before they lost their country in the first place. It was prophesied more than once by various prophets so whatever people think of it, it’s here and the prophecies indicate it’s here to stay so everyone can just start getting used to it.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Benny Morris:– “There is not going to be peace in the present generation. There will not be a solution. We are doomed to live by the sword. I’m already fairly old, but for my children that is especially bleak. I don’t know if they will want to go on living in a place where there is no hope. Even if Israel is not destroyed, we won’t see a good, normal life here in the decades ahead.”

          ==> Go home => Russia, Poland, Germany, …

        • Helen4Yemen

          ||the people of Israel being gathered from every corner of the earth||

          Hehe! You mean the African, the European, the Asian and so on?

        • Helen4Yemen

          HOCUS-POCUS!

        • GIVVO6_B

          They were not gathered and were and are just a load of fanatics turning up to steal. They are exactly like Daesh and consist of foreigners that showed up in another country to murder and steal. They should be treated the same as Daesh. We should drop bombs on them and then remove them from the stolen land.

        • Skeptikc

          Ziemer- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

          Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
          youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

          *remove stars from url*

      • Eduardo Pinha

        Do you also have a problem with all North or South American Nations, Austrália and New Zealand? Or is just Israel?

        • GIVVO6_B

          Other nations are not currently stealing somebody else’s land. Israel is and it should cease to exist as it is a fake state that came into being by theft and murder.

          • Mike Abramov

            OK. I get it. If the land was ‘stolen’ a hundred years ago by white colonialists, that’s OK. In your eyes, historic guilt is forgiven. You do have a very strange concept of humanity.

          • Skeptikc

            Mike Abramov- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

            Rothschild Zionism – the elephant in the room
            youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            *remove stars from url*

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Actually, you just made a joke out of yourself with your abysmal understand of political Zionism, the seizing of a country and driving out the indigenous population.

      • William Dean Ziemer

        Ooops! You may not be aware of this but your words have exposed your ignorant, bigotry and hatred; you might want to do something about that.

        But in any case, the people of Israel being gathered from every corner of the earth to once again occupy the land that their ancestors once conquered and possessed for a few thousand years, was written about before they lost their country in the first place. It was prophesied more than once by various prophets so what ever people think of it, it’s here and the prophecies indicate it’s here to stay so everyone can just start getting used to it.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You believe in prophecies, you sick religious fanatic.

          • Helen4Yemen

            He is a white man who desperately wanna be indigenous! Funny!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            He doesn’t realize that if he was indigenous, he would be invaded by white thugs and driven from his home.

          • William Dean Ziemer

            If a solid rock, placed on a solid foundation can be moved, with no force of any kind being applied from without or within, then everything you say may be proven correct.

            If absolute nothing can suddenly become both time and material;
            if one infinitesimally small fraction of a tiny percentage of that material can magically become life with an absolute base of DNA with an exact code of what that life must look like and do to reproduce itself with zero in quadrillions of chances of that DNA creating anything different and yet has done so quadrillions of times and continues to do so, though there is no proof of it doing so… then, you may have something to say that may convince me.

            But all of that is theory at a fairytale level.

            Besides… you probably believe that a man can just choose to be a woman and it is so because that is how (He) “identifies”. That pretty much opens the door for anyone to claim they are anyone or anything and everyone else just has to accept it.

            I pray you are blessed with the knowledge of God’s great and wonderful love for you… despite all the evil that you have in you. (as do we all)

            PS, I am more than 50% German and I have lived in a Mayan village in Guatemala for 17 years… I assure you, I have no desire to Trans-race.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are obviously obtuse, superstitious, and treacherous.

          • William Dean Ziemer

            “Superstition: a belief or way of behaving that is based on fear of the unknown and faith in magic or luck : a belief that certain events or things will bring good or bad luck”…. that type of superstition?
            Nada que ver!

            You on the other hand are steeped in a belief system that has no solid ground.

            The most brilliant scientist, if he/she is honest, would tell you that there if a huge flaw in the “Big Bang” (theory) and no one knows where water came from or how life suddenly appeared out of minerals.

            I’m certain you know nothing of any of this except for what some Priest of Science has spouted from his pulpit. And you…you buy it all out of fear and ignorance.

            You are closer to being superstitious than I am.

            “Obtuse:
            : stupid or unintelligent : not able to think clearly or to understand what is obvious or simple:” You think I am stupid and unable to think clearly because I believe… (what, to you, is an equivalent to a theory) in a being preexisting and outside of time who has the ability to imagine and create by speaking His will into existence.

            I shared your belief until I reached the age of 24 in 1975 and that “Being”, for reasons known only to Themselves and certainly not for any good that was in me, invaded my innermost being and convinced me of His existence. Not in a cathedral or at some Christian gathering but in my army bunk in the middle of the night.

            I could not resist nor deny the spiritual, invisible yet tangible evidence He put before me. I was guilty, broken, forgiven and exalted in one instant and my whole understanding of everything changed that moment.

            I was shocked and amazed that God actually existed and that He had, for whatever reason, let me know the truth. I immediately prayed and committed my life to Him.

            There may be thousands of people who go to church and follow the “Christian rules” for various reason; some may do it out of “superstition” and others out of tradition or just in searching for answers; I know there are. I’m not one of them.

            I know who I believe in; I know Him very well because He has chosen to make Himself known to me as well as to all of creation and has prepared a way for us to know Him. That “way” is Jesus Christ who died in your place to get you into the presence of God.

            And by the power of His pure and just spirit, He rose from the dead as a testimony to His ability to make that connection between you and God an unbreakable reality.

            I am a witness to that truth and the one who now lives in me is the true witness.

          • William Dean Ziemer

            If a solid rock, placed on a solid foundation can be moved, with no force of any kind being applied from without or within, then everything you say may be proven correct.

            If absolute nothing can suddenly become both time and material;
            if one, infinitesimally small fraction of a tiny persentage of that material can magically become life with an absolute base of DNA with an exact code of what that life must look like and do to reproduce itself with zero in quadrillions of chances of that DNA creating anything different and yet has done so quadrillions of times and continues to do so, though there is no proof of it doing so… then, you may have something to say that may convince me.

            But all of that is theory at a fairytale level.

            Besides… you pobobly believe that a man can just choose to be a woman and it is so because that is how (He) “identifys”. that prety much opens the door for anyone to calim they are anyone or anything and everyone else just has to accept it.

            I pray you are blessed with the knowledge of God’s great and wonderful love for you… despite all the evil that you have in you. (as do we all)

            PS, I am more than 50% German and I have lived in a Mayan village in Guatemala for 17 years… I assure you, I have no desire to Trans-race.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I have no idea what this post is all about – but we leave as that.

          • Skeptikc

            Zeimer- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

            Rothschild Zionism – the elephant in the room
            youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

            *remove stars from url*

        • Helen4Yemen

          Look in the mirror! If a European is staring back at you,
          it means your ancestry is European. What did the mirror say?
          __________
          Here is Ralph Schoenman:

          Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu (real name: Mileikowsky) is descendant from people who have no relation to Palestine, historic or other, because Ashkenazim or European Jews such as Mr. Netanyahu or ourselves for that matter are in fact descendants of the Khazars, an 8th and 9th century empire that converted to Judaism at that time from which European Jews are descended. Indeed, as I have often discussed, if one wanted scientific data which demonstrates the ethnic origin of European Jewry, here is the point: European Jews are susceptible to a genetic condition known Tay-Sachs disease, it is analogous to what African Americans suffer, sickle cell anemia. What is interesting about this is that only European Jews are susceptible to this genetic trait. No Semitic people is. That means none of the Jews form the Arab East, Yemen or Iraq or North Africa or any of the areas of the region, because like their Arab brothers and sisters as are the Arab Jews. The point is very ironic as we have often made it and I think we should take a brief moment to emphasize this – who do you think was converted to the prostzling and dynamic Islamic religion in the 6th century? The indigenous inhabitants. They were Jews, they were non-believers, they were people of various local religious other views, animist views. The irony of all this is the Palestinian people have greater genetic link to the Jews of the region by descent than certainly the Ashkenazim who have no relation to the region whatsoever. So this is essentially a racist and pseudo scientific attempt historically to lay claim to an area and to translate their god into a real estate agent. There is no remote scintilla of evidence to establish a relationship between Jews in the world today and this region. None whatsoever, because the Jews of the period were expelled to Babylonia and the remaining tribes were entirely assimilated to the populations of the area. And indeed they are the antecedent of the Palestinian population, they have a greater relationship to the Hebrews of the early period than any Ashkenazim, none whatsoever by way of punctuating the irony and the point about the nature of a colonial settler project as an instrument of imperial conquest.

          • Mike Abramov

            Sir – Absolute nonsense. I have read and re-read many history books on the period from AD 490 to AD 1000. Everyone after the demise of the Roman Empire was left without roots. Jews converted to Christian. Christian went back to being Jewish. Many were forced in to Islam…mostly pagans. Forget the Tay-Sachs connection. Many Jews who left the remnants of the Roman Empire inter-married.in those days mixed marriages were not frowned upon. Jews in the Middle east married Muslims too.

            What you overlook is this. If you are going down the path of prooving that Jews have to have a direct linage then you are exposing your thoughts to the world as a Nazi. In the Nazi era, if your grand-mother was Jewish, you were sent to the camps.Being a Jew is ‘HOW YOU FEEL’. I know many Jews who don’t feel Jewish and vice-versa. I know many Christians and Muslims who have a great affection for and loyalty to Jews.

            I strongly recommend that you re-examine what you have written and understand that if a Christian converts to being a Jew, that person is a Jew.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Are you that delusional? Arab Jews are Arab and the Ashkenazi are European, they look just like you.

        • Skeptikc

          Ziemer- perfect example of a Rothschild Zionist shill!

          Rothschild Zionism – the elephant in the room
          youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

          *remove stars from url*

    • Helen4Yemen

      Do you ever look in the mirror? Who is staring back? A European?

    • Helen4Yemen

      Mark Twain — Still, almost bereft of employments, he
      (the Ashkenazi) found ways to make money, even ways to get rich. Also ways to invest his takings well, for usury was not denied him. In the hard conditions suggested, the Jew without brains could not survive, and the Jew with brains had to keep them in good training and well sharpened up, or starve. Ages of restriction to the one tool which the law was not able to take from him – his brain – have made that tool singularly competent; ages of compulsory disuse of his hands have atrophied them, and he never uses them now.”
      ______________
      Therefore, how did the Ashkenazis, who knew nothing about farming make the land bloom?

      • GIVVO6_B

        They made the land bloom with American money and Palestinian sweat.

    • GIVVO6_B

      You are a Nazi with an entirely Nazi mentality. The German Nazis said they would make the steppes bloom in Russia. Go back to Khazaria, you racist freak!

    • Mike Abramov

      William – I am with you mate. The volume of bile spilling out of the mouths of the anti-Israel mob is likened to the Nazi propaganda machine. I do try and be reasonable with the likes of Helen4Yemen, but she clearly has deep issues that go beyond rational thinking.

      • Skeptikc

        Zeimer & Mike Abramov- perfect example of Rothschild Zionist shills!

        Rothschild Zionism- the elephant in the room
        youtube*.*com/#/watch?v=68rMTRhqKok

        *remove stars from url*

    • Reid Iford

      NOT JEWS! This is yet another Zionist lie. Zionism is NOT Judaism. Zionism is a sick bastardization of Judaism. Their Black Talmud – teaching only Zionists are humans and all others are “goyim, not more than cattle” – is NOT JUdaism, it is a sick Zionist creation.

      I am a member of Jewish Voice for Peace, an organization of both Jews and nonJews committed to freeing the People of Plalestine and PROTECTING Judaism from the evils of Zionism.

  • Pinar hasan

    As long as the Arab word is divided and continue to kill Muslim children to please their Jew animal master Jews. Arabs unit and demand Europe recognize Palestine and

  • rainbird

    Is there any nation who have been against Israel or Jews still going today? The God of Israel has His hand on His people to this day and continues to be faithful to His people.
    No land is the property of any nation. People belong to the land – not the other way about and God gave Israel to His people. Check out the only book worth reading on the topic… the Bible.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Did God give “Israel’ to European Ashkenazi? 90% of world Jewry today is made up of European Ashkenazi who used to be known as KHAZARS, who then changed their identity to ‘Jews’ when they converted.

      • Eduardo Pinha

        your whole discourse is based in a lie. jews did mix with local people and yet kept their culture. it only takes one jewish mother to make lots of jewish from a local father. be a bit less biased and study the subject throughly. a jew from morrocos looks from morrocos, a german jew looks german. They both pray for Israel and came from Israel.

        • Helen4Yemen

          || jews did mix with local people|| You mean the German Jews mixed with ‘local’ Germans?

          || and yet kept their culture. ||What culture? The culture of the Yemeni Jew is Yemeni and the culture of the Ethiopian Jew is Ethiopian.

          || it only takes one jewish mother to make lots of jewish from a local father. ||HUH?

          || a jew from morrocos looks from morrocos, a german jew looks german. They both pray for Israel and came from Israel. ||The Jew from Morocco looks Moroccan, because he is Moroccan and not German

          • Eduardo Pinha

            Well, you can´t get any lower. Sorry to inform you, the jewish people are PEOPLE, made of persons that actually EXIST and have their own and unique culture. And it all came from the land of Israel. You try to deny and now hit rock bottom saying that there is no such thing as jewish culture and jewish people. There is a double standard in every argument you use. I can´t even speak about self determination you just don´t seem see jews as people. So I have to tell you, you are wrong. Judaism, as religion, does not engage in proselitism, this mean that, you will never see a jew trying to convince other people to became jews. (it is possible to convert, not easy, the person has to show lots of will to it). So how could jewish culture reach Morroco, Yemen, Iraq, Germany? It could ONLY be through emigration (normally forced) and family ties. So that´s how, over 2 thousand years, a few million people left Israel and spread, mixing and adapting just like other people do, but keeping the it´s core.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are lying. The Arab Jews developed their culture in Yemen. the Ashkenazi Jews developed theirs in Europe. The Palestinians developed theirs in Palestine. You alien European Ashkenazi have no rights in Palestine that was never yours.

          • Eduardo Pinha

            So where did the Torah, the Hebrew language, the celebrations of Tisha Be Av, Rosh Hashana and Yom Kipur come from? It all came from Israel and jews from around the world have it in common. You can´t deny that because judaism exists.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, it was just another religion out of the Arabian Peninsula that people converted in and out of, and never had any more rights in Palestine than any other of the religions used by people’s residing there.

            You are just another fraud parading a religion as an excuse for genocidal country stealing. You are a horrible disgrace upon Judaism.

          • Helen4Yemen

            http://disq.^us/p/1avcikj

            (remove ^)

          • Alexander Malinowski

            19th century people developed their culture in 19th century and than came the war at was everything changed. Even more changes followed soviet revolution, Nazi regime occupation and end by the end of ww2.
            Life consists from the same elements and different.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Imagine the Catholics wanted self-determination and Balfour had consented to give them Uganda without consulting the Ugandans. Where would the Catholics have from? From all corners of the world. They would be Africans, Asians, Europeans, South Americans, Black-White-Brown-Yellow people who spoke different languages, had different customs and heritages and Balfour just dumped all of them together and let them self-determine? That was exactly what the Jews did when they stampeded to Palestine. The only difference between the Jews and the Catholics is that all countries inhabited by white Europeans were opposed to have the Jews settle on their land for the simple reason that they did not want them on their land. The main reason for why Europeans cooperated with Zionism was it was meant to solve Europe’s problem with its own Ashkenazi Jews – finally a FINAL SOLUTION.

    • Alexander Malinowski

      There is difference between Catholics, faith based on conversion, and Judaism, which is based on inheritance.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Is the Nigerian Jew your blood relative?

        • Alexander Malinowski

          I am outsider in the discussion between Jews and Arabs. However, both need peace.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you an Ashkenazi?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Nope. More scandinavian type. Don’t you see?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Yep, genuine European! Are you a ‘Jew’?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            No, I am not. I am wishing Jews and Arabs peace and that they stay there and do not come here!

  • Helen4Yemen

    Letter from President Nasser to President Kennedy 1961

    “He who does not own has made a promise to he who does not deserve. Then both he “who does not own” and “he who does not deserve” were able, through force and deceit, to usurp the right of the legitimate owner and take away from him what he owned and deserved. This is the true picture of the Balfour declaration: Britain’s pledge, promising in a land she does not own, but is owned by the Arab people of Palestine – a Jewish home in Palestine. On the individual basis, Mr. President, not to speak of the international basis, the picture as such shows a clear case of larceny in which any ordinary court can convict those responsible.”

  • Helen4Yemen

    Herzl diary entry of Aug 10, 1903, a meeting with Russian Minster of the Interior

    Here is a discussion between Herzl and Plehve of Russia.
    Plehve was just excited at the prospect of cleansing Russia of its Jews.
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    Yacheslav, Plehve

    1888-1902 assistant minister of the interior of the Russian Government

    1902-1904 Minister of the interior

    Here is Thodor Herzl diary entry for his his meeting with Plehve
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    Aug 10, 1903

    Day before yesterday, in the morning, with Plehve only a brief wait, a man of sixty, rather stout, steps quickly forward, greets me, bids me be seated and begins to talk. He has a shallow, grave countenance, grey hair, white mustache, and remarkably youthful, energetic brown eyes. He spoke in French, not brilliant but not bad, he begun by clearing the ground

    “I have accorded you this interview, at your request in order to come to an understanding with you in respect to the Zionist movement, of which you are the leader. The relations which shall prevail between the Imperial government and Zionism-and which could become -I will not say friendly but in the nature of an agreement -will depend upon you’

    I interjected: “if it depends on me, Your Excellency, they will be excellent.”
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    He nodded and continued: “the Jewish question is not vital to us, but still it is fairly important. And we are trying to settle it in the most amicable way possible. I have grated you this discussion of it before your Congress meets at Basel, as you requested.”

    That was it, I believe, the first critical move in this ‘immortal game’ of chess. For I understood all along that he attached much importance to the forthcoming Zionist congress, obviously because he saw that the Kishinev business was bound to come up there for a frank airing. When that happens I could be in the position of doing him a service by cutting the thing short.
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    Plehve: “What sort of help then do you ask of us?”

    I developed the three points, which I have written down in the abstract of our conversation:

    – Russian intervention with the Sultan, in order to secure a charter for colonization of Palestine.

    – Russian financial aid for emigration, with money raised from Jewish funds and taxes

    – Government facilitation of Russian Zionist organizational work

    He agreed to all the three points without hesitation.

    In regard to financing the emigration, he explained,

    “I concede that the government should carry it out, but we can take the funds only from Jewish pockets. The rich must pay the poor”.

    It is an excellent idea, I said.
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    In the end, we agreed that I should draw up a summary and also outline what I intended to say at the Zionist Congress.

    When I felt that we had nothing more to say to each other and he had ordered me to prepare the summary, I rose and asked him to grant me another audience after he had examined the document. He promised to do so. I turned to go, he pressed my hand, saying, “I am very happy to have met you in person”.

    “And I too, your Excellency, I am happy to have seen the M. de Plehve about whom Europe talks so much about.”

    He smiled and said: “and speaks so much evil.”
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    The next day he said to dear old Mme orvin-Piarovska the he wished he could have at his departments a type of executive such as myself
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    Theodor Herzl continues:

    I forgot:

    In the course of our talk when I explained to him the need for Russian intervention with the sultan, because Palestine was the only place that attracted us, I added some remarks on the difficulties of being admitted into other countries, even England and America. If emigration were to be subventioned with gov’t funds-as bruited about in St. Petersburg these days, and indeed published in the “Novoye Vremya” – it would be tanamount to putting an export premium on Jews; and the reluctance to receive them, which I knew of first hand in England, would be strengthened. A people would certainly be considered ‘undesirable’ for whose departure their own government is willing to pay a bonus.

    Plehve thought, to be sure, that England was out of the question when it came to a sizable emigration. America, though, was something else. It still had large territories available for settlement; and if the banker Seligman would approach his friend Roosevelt in the matter, something might be done. I said I didn’t regard this as possible; I couldn’t say anything positive about it, for I had never sounded out the American gov’t on the subject. Palestine, moreover, seemed to offer the one genuine opportunity.
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  • Helen4Yemen

    Helen Thomas: No reason for foreign Europeans to linger on stolen land. Go home!

    Rabi: Any comments on Israel.

    Helen: tell them to get the h^ll out of Palestine. Remember – these people (the Palestinians) are occupied. And it is their land. It is not Germany, it is not Poland.

    Rabbi: So where should they go? What should they do?

    Helen: they go home!

    Rabbi: where is home?

    Helen: Poland, Germany,

    Rabbi: so the Jews should go back to Poland and Germany?

    Helen: and America and everywhere else.

    • Alexander Malinowski

      People should stay where they are un less they earn by virtues right to immigrate to other country.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Palestine is Arab land that was seized by force. Nothing prevents the German Jew from returning to Germany and the Russian Jew from returning to Russia and the Polish Jews from returning to Poland and so on. Only greed keeps them lingering on stolen Palestine.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          As far as I am concerned, Jews had been never at home in Europe. Israel is their homeland and it is good so.
          Time for Palestinians for reconciliation with Israel.

          • Helen4Yemen

            You cannot ask a rape victim to marry her rapist!

          • Alexander Malinowski

            It is already 3 generations passed. Time to stop war.
            I can tell none of Jews/Arabs shall go to Europe. They should stay, wherever they are now.

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi robbers of Palestine do not get to determine who should stay on the land of Palestine, only the Palestinians have that right and not European foreigners.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Such a statement makes no sense as reality on the ground is completely different.

            In Europe also many people had to move as a result of WW2 or WW1, people lost their land, people lost their towns.

            However, nobody wants to make a war now.

            What is difference between Germans from Silesia and Palestinians?

            Germans left big house made of bricks.
            Palestinians left mud hut.

            Germans had property right for the land.
            Palestinians rented the land.

            Germans still remember their land, they visit from time to time.
            Palestinians are 3rd generation and have no idea about mud hut left. Moreover there are 100 successors of the same mud hut, in any case the return doesn’t make any sense.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Let the German Ashkenazi go back to his big house and the Palestinians to their mud house.

            Here is Benny Morris:

            ______________________ Look at history, these two peoples are going to live quietly together? Who are we kidding? They are going to kill each other and the Arabs will probably end up winning and the Jews will leave… if there ever is a binational state.” (Jewish Chronicle interview of Benny Morris by By Simon Rocker June 23 2011)
            ______________________ I think I’m basically depressed. I think unless there is a basic change of heart and mind—a change of mindset—among Palestinians and in the Arab world in general about Israel, we’re in for a continuous struggle over the coming decades. Basically what is needed here is a compromise based on two states, and that in effect requires Arab acceptance of Israel’s legitimacy. But so long as there is this view of Israel as a cancer in the Middle East—which like a Crusader’s stake must be uprooted and will be uprooted—there will be no compromise here. It doesn’t matter what agreement is signed or what temporary ceasefires occur. In the long term of history, it’s meaningless. So long as Israel’s legitimacy is questioned, its existence is not assured. (Atlantic Unbound | March 25, 2004)
            ______________________ There is not going to be peace in the present generation. There will not be a solution. We are doomed to live by the sword. I’m already fairly old, but for my children that is especially bleak. I don’t know if they will want to go on living in a place where there is no hope. Even if Israel is not destroyed, we won’t see a good, normal life here in the decades ahead.

          • Alexander Malinowski

            No, nobody can revert the time.
            Kill yourself! You haven’t lived in 1948, so when we revert the time…

          • Helen4Yemen

            Palestine = FINAL SOLUTION

          • Alexander Malinowski

            This is plainly stupid.
            Nowadays in Palestine is 6 million Arabs, 6 x more than in 1945. Please do not appear idiot.

            By the way, what is current status of Saudi genocide in Yemen?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Source:The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
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    The creation of Israel in 1947-48 involved acts of ethnic cleansing, including executions, massacres and rapes by Jews. Israel’s backers also portray it as a country that has sought peace at every turn and shown great restraint even when provoked. The Arabs, by contrast, are said to have acted with great wickedness. Yet on the ground, Israel’s record is not distinguishable from that of its opponents. Ben-Gurion acknowledged that the early Zionists were far from benevolent towards the Palestinian Arabs, who resisted their encroachments – which is hardly surprising, given that the Zionists were trying to create their own state on Arab land. In the same way, the creation of Israel in 1947-48 involved acts of ethnic cleansing, including executions, massacres and rapes by Jews, and Israel’s subsequent conduct has often been brutal, belying any claim to moral superiority. Between 1949 and 1956, for example, Israeli security forces killed between 2700 and 5000 Arab infiltrators, the overwhelming majority of them unarmed. The IDF murdered hundreds of Egyptian prisoners of war in both the 1956 and 1967 wars, while in 1967, it expelled between 100,000 and 260,000 Palestinians from the newly conquered West Bank, and drove 80,000 Syrians from the Golan Heights.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Rabbi Ovadia Yosef —

    “The purpose of Gentiles — to serve Jews: “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel. In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi (master) and eat… That is why gentiles were created.

    — Weekly Saturday night sermon in October 2010 -( Source: Times of Israel)

    • Alexander Malinowski

      As far as I concern this part was adopted and is now part of Quran, related to Muslims. Is this correct?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Are you a child? Rabbi Ovadia Yousef (real name: Abdullah Yuosef) was an Iraq Jew who said non-Jews are born into the world to serve Jews only and aside from that they have no other purpose in life. Now you are asking me if that is in the Koran. If you continue to post nonsense, I will BLOCK you.

        • Alexander Malinowski

          This is probably true.
          However, Quran has similar part.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Rabbi Ovadia Yosef —
    “It is forbidden to be merciful to them (Palestinians). Abu Mazen (Abbas) and all these evil people should perish from this world. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable. May our enemies and those who hate us be put to an end, Abu Mazen (Abbas) and all these evil people, may they be made gone from the world. The Holy One, blessed be He, should smite them with plague, they and these nasty Palestinians, the evil Israel-baiters. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.
    (Source: Haaretz 2010-29-08)

  • Helen4Yemen

    || Jabotinsky — There is only one thing the Zionists want, and it is that one thing that the Arabs do not want, for that is the way by which the Jews would gradually become the majority, and then a Jewish Government would follow automatically, and the future of the Arab minority would depend on the goodwill of the Jews; and a minority status is not a good thing, as the Jews themselves are never tired of pointing out. So there is no “misunderstanding”. The Zionists want only one thing, Jewish immigration; and this Jewish immigration is what the Arabs do not want. ||

    • Alexander Malinowski

      Currently we know that both Jews and Arabs will live in Palestine for time to come.
      Wouldn’t be better to live in peace?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Yes, why couldn’t the European Ashkenazi live in peace in their Europe?
        Why did the Ashkenazi make a 3rd party – the Palestinians-pay a price for their problems in Europe?

        • Alexander Malinowski

          Ashkenazy had never been at home in Europe. therefore they returned to their homeland. By the way, as Palestinians occupied former Jewish homeland, Jews settled on sparsely populated land along the coast, which has been turned into fertile land due to technology.
          Technically speaking Jews didn’t replace Arabs, but settled in the neighbourhood.

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi knew nothing about farming. How can they make the land fertile with their baby soft European hands?

          • Alexander Malinowski

            They employed scientists and work in unique collective farms.
            Collective farms never worked well in Eastern Europe. Kibbutz somehow were able to work properly.
            Irrigation method used by Israel is the most advanced in the world. It prevents salination of the soil.

            Please check: most of Jews live now on areas that had not been populated by Palestinians.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why don’t you go and make your Germany bloom?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Year — Non-Jews — Jews — % Non-Jew/Jew
            1851 — 327,000 — 13,000 —
            1861 — 356,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
            1881 — 422,000 — 25,000 — 95/5
            1895 — 522,000 — 47,000 — 92/8
            1914 — 675,000 — 85,000 — 87/13
            1919 — 500,000 — 65,000 — 87/13
            1922 — 723,000 — 93,000 — 89/11
            1924 — 765,000 — 113,000 — 87/13
            1931 — 881,000 — 175,000 — 83/17
            1936 — 1,003,000 — 370,000 — 73/27
            1940 — 1,113,000 — 467,000 — 70/30
            1945 — 1,295,000 — 564,000 — 70/30
            1948 — 1,319,000 — 650,000 — 67/33

          • Alexander Malinowski

            Why you put all non-Jews in one block?
            One could put Arabs and non-Arabs in one block.
            This is manipulation.

          • Helen4Yemen

            David Ben-Gurion — “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehoshua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” – David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

  • Eric11210

    No thank you. You obviously have some sexuality issues to work out. Probably the source of your insanity. May I suggest a good mental health professional?

    • Reid Iford

      Typical Zionist reply.

    • Skeptikc

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      Rothschild Zionism- they dare not speak its name
      https://www^youtube^com/watch?v=0xe5cQDIbMs

      From 2006, but still relevant today
      The root problem: Jews or Illuminati?
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  • John Dingle

    Britain should apologize for not fulfilling the Balfour declaration, not for making it.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Letter from President Nasser to President Kennedy 1961

      “He who does not own has made a promise to he who does not deserve. Then both he “who does not own” and “he who does not deserve” were able, through force and deceit, to usurp the right of the legitimate owner and take away from him what he owned and deserved. This is the true picture of the Balfour declaration: Britain’s pledge, promising in a land she does not own, but is owned by the Arab people of Palestine – a Jewish home in Palestine. On the individual basis, Mr. President, not to speak of the international basis, the picture as such shows a clear case of larceny in which any ordinary court can convict those responsible.”

  • Darc Gibson

    You even quoted it yourself: “it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”. The fact that Israelis rebelled against the British is their problem. The deal tried to protect the rights of Palestinians, but some extremist elements in the Israeli (not Jewish) government had other ideas. This website is a web of conspiracy theories straight from the autocratic, anti-democratic Turkish government. I love how this website tries to paint Erdogan as a defender of democracy because of a failed coup attempt. Didn’t he then unlawfully arrest tens of thousands of Turkish civil servants? Rather un-democratic if you ask me. But then again, this comment will just be deleted as Turks can’t seem to admit any other opinions – probably because they’re scared of being beaten up by Erdogan AKP thugs and possibly arrested, as with other journalists who dare to mention the Armenian genocide.

  • Alexander Malinowski

    The results from 2015 December:
    Ashkenazy are not Khazars.

    The genetic Study of the Israelite genome has conclusively stated that the Ashkenazi Jews have a gene that is related to the Israelites.

    The Hypnosis that all the Ashkenazi Jews came from Khazar is false. This thought line came only from a Author who wrote about the Khazars being the thirteenth tribe of the Israelite’s, some genetic researchers has used this book as the bases of their studies.

    New research which is backed by other studies into the genome of Jews has conclusive shown that the Ashkenazi Jews, did migrate from the ME to Italy and into Germany, some Jews did migrate to Khazar but they became the Mountain Jews in the Caucus and they did not migrate into Europe.