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Pro-Israeli protestors at a rally outside Downing Street during Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to the UK on September 9, 2016
Pro-Israeli protesters at a rally outside Downing Street during Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to the UK on September 9, 2016

Israel advocacy groups and individuals are seeking to undermine Palestine solidarity activism on British campuses, using Islamophobic abuse and false accusations of antisemitism.

Last Thursday, former Israeli army officer Hen Mazzig, who served in the occupied West Bank as part of the Israeli occupation authorities’ forces, was invited to speak at University College London (UCL) by the Friends of Israel student society.

His presence prompted a protest – described by UCL as “non-violent” – by Palestinian students and their allies, angered by the presence of an individual who proudly participated in a decades-long military regime characterised by human rights and international law violations.

Meanwhile, some 20 or so “veteran” pro-Israel activists arrived, many of whom are known for their harassment of Palestinian students and extremist beliefs about the conflict – more of which below. The event itself was backed by CAMERA, a notoriously hard-line Israel advocacy group.

Even as the event and protest were ongoing, pro-Israel activists began reporting that they were being subjected to “violence” and “aggression” by student protesters. These claims were picked up and repeated unquestioningly in a number of media outlets.

Over the weekend, however, video footage emerged showing those pro-Israel activists from outside campus hurling Islamophobic and racist abuse at protesters – “Get out of our country!”, said one. Others referred to the students as “vermin” and Nazis.

Elliot Miller, an employee of a so-called “counter-extremism” outfit called Student Rights, was filmed shoving people, and shouting at protesters that Islam is a “violent religion”.

Student Rights was originally set up in 2009 explicitly to counter Palestine solidarity activism. Its first “director” was none other than Raheem Kassam, former Nigel Farage aide, now failed UKIP leadership candidate, and a friend of EDL-founder Tommy Robinson.

The racist language used by Israel’s supporters, including those who were present at UCL, continued after the event. Mazzig, for example, who said the experience was worse than his time in the Israeli army, referred to “barbaric” students as an “Arab mob”.

Another pro-Israel organiser, Stand With Us campus coordinator Devora Khafi, said the student protesters had “behave[d] like animals”, adding the following slur: “How dare they call me a killer whilst it’s their own people that are being taught the tactics of terrorism?”

As if the Orientalist, dehumanising language wasn’t enough, others even diminished the horrors of the Holocaust in their efforts to generate hysteria about proceedings: one Israeli news site called it a “pogrom”, others compared it to the “Warsaw Ghetto”.

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre, meanwhile, combined all of the above by comparing the protesters to Nazi Stormtroopers and “Jihadi volunteers”, and perhaps most disturbingly of all, describing them as a form of cancer to be uprooted (“this growth must be deracinated before it metastasizes”).

Yet on a blog supported by CAMERA, a pro-Israel activist who attended the event with “20 or so veterans” freely acknowledged there was never any danger: “I cannot in all honesty say I felt particularly threatened or anxious. It was pretty much water off the proverbial duck’s back.”

Those “veteran” pro-Israel activists who descended on the UCL campus are key to understanding this story. Among sections of the British Jewish community, there is frustration at what is seen as insufficient efforts by communal bodies to defend Israel and fight the so-called “new antisemitism”.

This discontent erupted very publicly in 2014, in the context of Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, which unsurprisingly prompted an unprecedented wave of solidarity with the Palestinians and anger with the Israeli government.

In the last two years, a number of grassroots groups have emerged across Britain in support of Israel, with established bodies like the Board of Deputies of British Jews having to play catch up, co-opting such efforts while under pressure from this more hard-line constituency.

A number of these extremist, “grassroots” groups or individuals were present at UCL last week, including Sharon Klaff of Campaign4Truth, who recently organised an event – with the support of the Israeli embassy – where Palestinian statehood and even identity was denied and scoffed at.

Campaign4Truth previously organised a panel event featuring a notorious academic who believes that “if Europe continues its current path” it will “fall before the Islamic challenge”.

Also present at the UCL event was Simon Cobbs, from Sussex Friends of Israel, a man best known for accosting peaceful demonstrators and shouting in their faces. Another attendee was David Collier, a blogger who creepily listed Palestinian students in the UK, whose presence he termed an “invasion”.

These are the kinds of groups who are pressuring the likes of the Board and Jewish Leadership Council (JLC) to mobilise as many resources as possible to fight Palestine solidarity activism. One such pro-Israel activist has vowed that their presence at students’ events “will increase”.

The attack on Palestine solidarity activists, and students in particular, is not just about intimidation and Islamophobia. It is also about using the smear of antisemitism to try and stifle debate, and stigmatise tactics like the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign.

A statement condemning the UCL protest was released in the name of the Board, the JLC, the Union of Jewish Students, and, notably, the Community Security Trust (CST), a charity whose evidence was heavily relied upon by the recent Home Affairs Select Committee report on antisemitism.

The statement, which referred to “violent” protests without any acknowledgement that this is a contested allegation, claimed that an “extreme and intolerant minority” on campus is “determined to prevent pro-Israel, Israeli or Jewish speakers from being heard.”

“Jewish” speakers? The Board, JLC, UJS and even CST are clearly happy to lend their names to a casual, and entirely unsubstantiated, accusation of antisemitism. In fact, the only two incidents cited were protests against a former head of the Israeli navy and Shin Bet, and an Israeli ex-army officer.

Attacks on legitimate political activity such as support for Palestinian rights and BDS are nothing new, even in recent times. Every indication is that this pro-Israel offensive is set to escalate.

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  • peepsqueek

    If boycotting Israel was really all about human rights, Israel would be near the bottom of a very long list of Countries, especially in the Middle East.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Right! Everybody would be stomping the European Zionist genocidal country stealers.

      Look how the genocidal invaders keep stealing the homes of the genuinely Semite indigenous people of Palestine!

      ->https://youtu.BE/-sGSRLrE-is

      • peepsqueek

        Palestinian Arab leaders should have made peace with every opportunity. Every Jew left out of Gaza 11 years ago, and Hamas rockets rained down on Israeli civilian populations within weeks. Lesson learned! That does not make me a fan of injustice, but lessons have been learned.

        • garybkatz

          They can’t stand the thought of Jewish hegemony over one square foot of “sacred Muslim land.” It insults their “Arab honor.” Muslims don’t control one-sixth of one percent of the Middle East – boo hoo!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Keep these facts in mind:

            1. The Arab Jews have nothing in common with the Ashkenazi Jews except for religion but have everything in common with their Arab brothers and sisters except for religion.

            2. Arab Jews are the brothers and sisters of the Arab people but only coreligionists of Ashkenazi Jews.

            3. Arabs Jews lived in peace and harmony with their Arab brothers and sisters while European Jews were hated for centuries.

            4. Arab Jews were brought to Palestine by the white Jews as cheap labor to replace the 900 Palestinians that the Europeans ethnically cleansed from their land.

            5. The arrival of the foreign non-Semitic Ashkenazi Jews from Europe to Arab Palestine disturbed the peaceful coexistence of all Arabs.

          • Richard Galber

            Really
            So you know what the Jews ethnically cleansed from the Arab lands think
            Interesting
            How do you know they have more in common with Arabs than their other Jewish co-coreligionists
            Incidentally, half the population of Israel are descended from those Jews forced from the Arab lands and do vote in every election
            First it was 450000 Arabs that left Israel
            Then slowly it climbed to 750000 and recently it has been climbing again
            Are you trying to reach the magic million number so you can then compare Palestinians/Arabs to the approximately one million Jews that used to live in Muslim lands but do not live there anymore. Thousands of years of culture and history wiped out in approximately 25 years. Quite an achievement that your friends managed

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            More crass ignorance displayed.

            Actually, the gradual departure of the Arab Jews from their homes in Arab lands was another machination of the Ben-Gurion by which he planned to fool and terrorize the Arab Jews into Palestine to serve the victorious European Zionist invaders of Palestine as laborers and farmers. It was Ben-Gurion who ordered the Zionist assaults on the Arab Jews.

            Zionist crimes against the Jews
            ->http://www.thepeoplesvoice.ORG/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/11/11/zionist-crimes-against-the-jews

            Zionist terror against the Jews
            ->http://www.inminds.CO.UK/jews-of-iraq.html

            False flag of the Lavon affair
            ->http://whatreallyhappened.COM/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

            All planned and ordered by David Ben-Gurion
            ->https://en.wikipedia.ORG/wiki/One_Million_Plan

            Thanks for reminding us that the assault of the alien European Zionist Ashkenazi invaders was not just against the people of Palestine but against all the Arab Jews. Thanks for reminding us of the vast evil of the European Zionists in forcing two Million Arab (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) people from their homes.

          • Lonny

            TheDUMBsuhCumfaced and his little Jew-hate tantrum. Too funny.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “So you know what the Jews ethnically cleansed from the Arab lands think”

            In 1948 when Europe’s Ashkenazi declared a state on stolen Arab land, there were 850,000 Arabs Jews total in all Arab countries. A decade later in 1958, there were still 475,000 in different Arab countries. Where is the expulsion? On the other hand, white Jews fro Europe expelled 900,000 in less than half a year.

          • Lonny

            Jews didn’t steal Arab land.

            Jew-hateTwat can’t name one fraction of a second at any point in history when the land belonged to Palestinian Arabs.

            The land was Ottoman land and after the Ottoman Empire fell, the British administered it. It had both Jewish and Arab inhabitants. It belonged to both. And the Jews didn’t cleanse the Arabs.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “How do you know they have more in common with Arabs than their other Jewish co-coreligionists”
            ____

            All Arab Jews spoke Arabic, used Arabic alphabet, cooked Arabic style food, danced Arab style, sang Arabic, dressed Arabic, looked Arab – Arabic all the way. On the other hand, the Europe Jew is vividly European and spoke the languages of the host countries, his culture was totally European. The only thing the Ashkenazi shares with the Arab Jews is a common religion and there is quite a difference between the wayAshkenazi practices his religion vs. the Arab Jews.

          • Lonny

            Jew-hateTwat is a liar. Prove that all the Jews living there spoke Arabic.

          • Richard Galber

            Jews throughout the diaspora of our exile from our homeland assimilated into the various cultures we found ourselves in; and yet those Jewish communities all over the world retained their bonds to the Jewish people and culture via religion
            Your entire post validates my argument, though I doubt that you can see that through your veil of anti-Zionist/anti-Israel/anti-Jewish hatred
            I refer to anti-Jewish and hatred because that is what it is. With the wars and occupations and refugee crisis’ all over the world, you concentrate on one little state, and that is the state that also happens to be the only Jewish majority state in the world.
            You apply different criteria and demand different outcomes for Israel.
            Israel is the only state in the world where people are calling for its destruction.
            A case in point is Pakistan, a state formed in 1947 due to the split between the Muslims and the Hindus. There was a de- facto partition of one country into the creation of two states and there was a population transfer of an estimated 15 million refugees that fled between them; yet no call for justice and dissolution of states and all the other hallmarks of Arab/Palestinian and Israeli conflict
            There is a name for that one sided bias and bigotry but I will allow you to work that one out yourself

          • Helen4Yemen

            Zionism = colonialism

            Plehve: “What sort of help then do you ask of us?”

            Herzl: Russian intervention with the Sultan, in order to secure a charter for
            colonization of Palestine. Herzl’s diary entry of Aug 10, 1903

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky : ZIONISM = COLONIALISM
            __ ” Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done?” (1923)

            __ “My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. ”

            __ “colonization carries its own explanation, the only possible explanation, unalterable and as clear as daylight to every ordinary Jew and every ordinary Arab. colonization can have only one aim, and Palestine Arabs cannot accept this aim. It lies in the very nature of things, and in this particular regard nature cannot be changed. “

          • Helen4Yemen

            The case of Pakistan-India is like Sudan-South Sudan, indigenous peoples dividing their common land. The case of Palestine is weird, in that lily white Europeans did the stampede to Palestine to steal Arab land at a time when the whole world was getting decolonized.
            Ashkenazi = European! Look in the mirror should you need confirmation.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky : ZIONISM = COLONIALISM

            ” My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. “

          • peepsqueek

            No one suffers more from Islamism than everyday good Muslims who are just trying to put food on the table. And Jews will suffer from the actions of the political far right and the far left as well.

      • garybkatz

        Hey, Dumbass – if Israel is genocidal, it’s the most inefficient genocide in history, given how the “Palestinian” population keeps increasing. What “country” did they “steal?” Do you think Judea got its name because Arabs lived there? It’s named after Jews, Dummy! Arabia is named after Arabs. Say it to yourself, so you’ll keep it straight next time: “Judea – Jews, Arabia – Arabs.” BTW, “Palestine” is not an Arabic word. I’m so sorry that Jews waiting 2000 years to reclaim their homeland was too quick for you to bear. It’s so sad that Israel, one-sixth of one percent of the Middle East, is so overwhelming to you, that it fuels your Jew-hating obsession. So nice that you have sided with the 9/11-celebrating, terror worshipping “Palestabians.” Smooth move. Always go with the Barbarians.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Tell me what connects EUROPEAN Ashkenazi Jewry to Arab Palestine?

          • garybkatz

            The Romans didn’t expel Arabs from Judea/Samaria, because Arabs weren’t there (except for a few nomads). The Romans didn’t destroy the Al Aqsa Mosque, because Islam didn’t even exist. It was the Second Temple. Jerusalem wasn’t the center of Arab life – it was the Jewish capital. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran, but dozens of times in the Old Testament. You can’t sink a shovel into Israel without coming up with troves of Jewish artifacts (which the Islamic Waqf destroys, at every opportunity). You would be hard pressed to find any Arabic artifacts, predating the Arab conquests launched by Islam, starting in the 7th century. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It’s like your brain is calcified against anything about the Jewish history and character of Israel. Bitter and hateful is no way to go through life, My Dear.

          • Helen4Yemen

            David Ben-Gurion: “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement.

            Translation: The Arabs did not expel the natives of the land and take their place, they did not settle on the land, they were there only to convert the people into Islam, therefore, the current Palestinian population are the descendants of those who were already there before the arrival of the Arabs.

            David Ben-Gurion: “Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

            Translation: The Palestinian Jews (who later converted to Christianity and then to Islam) never left their land nor were they replaced by the Arabs. The Arabs did not come to settle on the land but rather “to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes”. The Jewish farmers were attached to their land. “was not easily torn from his soil” and the current Palestinians are in fact the descendants of the people who were already there on that land before the arrival of the Arabs.

            Question: Is that not your understanding? If no, give me your translation. Interesting that European Jewry, vividly European, are not shy when they make silly statements such as white Europeans having ancestry on the land of people of color!

          • Lonny

            Spamming out of context and fake quotes… typical for the racistCUNT.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Can you find any Ashkenazi artifacts on the land of Palestine?
            Yes or no?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Excellent question!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha! No reply! That means the answer is certainly NO and they can’t say that and they also can’t say YES, b/c they know people would laugh at them. Every time there is no reply means that they can’t do it. Haha!

          • Lonny

            You ignore the answer no matter how many thousands of times it’s rammed down your throat, racistCUNT.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Listen my friend: what they say about laughter being the best medicine is so true! I had such a good laugh! This is a brand new – freshly minted – hasbara tale – which makes them look very stupid! He said the Ashkenazi had not yet MORPHED into European till after the exile! I am still laughing!

          • Lonny

            That’s why I laugh at you for being a dumbCUNT. Show us what 2000 years in a completely different environment does, racistCUNT. You’re talking about a good 6 hours difference in the amount of daylight between the regions, racistCUNT.

            Why can the Nuer Tribe of Africa digest milk during adulthood while Africans are least about to digest milk of all the races, racistCUNT?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            He also claims that all these different Jews were all at the Arch of Titus in Rome.

          • Lonny

            DumbCumfaced doesn’t know how time works and how events branch out from a common event.

            DumbCumfaced can’t figure out that the Jews were kicked out and went to different places for 2000 years and the Arch of Titus depicts when they were kicked out.

            Simple stuff, really, but the idiot’s so stupid, he can’t figure that one out.

          • Helen4Yemen

            They have no choice but to claim genetic relation with the dark-skinned Arab Jews because there are no nor have there ever been white Jews in the Middle East. Therefore, white Jew is willing to accept relations with lesser beings – the brown skinned Arabs and even with Asians or even with Chinese or Japanese or Indians but NEVER with African Jews. That is why they dump donated blood by Ethiopian Jews.

          • Lonny

            DNA studies prove the genetic relation, racistCUNT.

          • Lonny

            Plenty, because the Ashkenazi descended from the Hebrews, racistCUNT.

          • garybkatz

            They didn’t become Ashkenazi until after they were exiled, so your question is flawed on its face. Gee, what a surprise…

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, the Ugandan Jew did not become Ugandan
            and the Nigerian Jew did not become Nigerian
            and the Chinese Jew did not become Chinese
            and the Yemeni Jew did not become Yemeni
            and the Indian Jew did not become Indian
            and the Zimbabwean Jew did not become Zimbabwean
            and the Iraqi Jew did not become Iraqi

            until after they were exiled?

            Hahahahahahaha!

          • Lonny

            One people were exiled. They went to several different places and were in exile for 2000 years, even though some of them stayed behind, racistCUNT.

          • garybkatz

            You’re forgetting that Jews were not evangelical. We don’t travel to country after country, trying to convert people. Therefore, all these Jews flowed from the same land. There were many Jewish tribes in Israel, so they may have been varied, even then. But all of this is moot. Israel exists, it is Jewish, and there is nothing you can do that will ever change that. Too bad. Now fly away, Little Insect. You bore me.

          • Helen4Yemen

            So are you saying that there were black Jew tribes and they went straight to Africa and white skinned Jews went to Europe and yellow skinned ones went to Asian and the Arab Jews who remained in the area were always brown, therefore, no morphing took place! Haha!

            4th time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?Yes or no?

          • Lonny

            DumbCUNT can’t figure out what 2000 years does to people in terms of altering traits. Primarily what? Only skin pigmentation?

          • Helen4Yemen

            They may have been varied? I thought you said that:

            “they didn’t become Ashkenazi until after they were exiled”

            meaning that they morphed to become European?

            Which one is it: They left Palestine and they morphed upon arrival
            on destination or they left white and blended in with the Europeans?

            Which one?

          • Lonny

            They were one people, multiple tribes and were kicked out to many places for 2000 years, racistCUNT.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            She stomps you, hehe!

          • Lonny

            You’re too stupid to know what stomping even is, DumbCumOnFace.

          • Helen4Yemen

            He seems confused! He wants to say that the ‘Jews’ left Palestine
            and morphed into European b/c, he said, 2000 years would do that to you, right? Then I brought up the African and Asian and Arab and all sorts of Jews. Then it did not look so believable to say that they went in different directions and like a chameleon started to resemble their surroundings and then he came up with a brand new idea that they were all different colors before they left – haha – I can’t stop laughing. What a deluded people they are.

          • Helen4Yemen

            He seems confused! He wants to say that the ‘Jews’ left Palestine
            and morphed into European b/c, he said, 2000 years would do that to you, right? Then I brought up the African and Asian and Arab and all sorts of Jews. Then it did not look so believable to say that they went in different directions and like a chameleon started to resemble their surroundings and then he came up with a brand new idea that they were all different colors before they left – haha – I can’t stop laughing. What a deluded people they are.

          • Lonny

            DNA shows that they came from the same place, racistCUNT.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Aren’t you being kind of ridiculous claiming that Chinese Jews morphed from European Jews? Especially since there have been times that Jew proselytized, or don’t you know about those? How do you think the Khazars got to be Jews?

          • Lonny

            DumbCumFaced… Middle Eastern Jews went to Europe, Africa and Asia. Too freaking stupid to understand such a simple concept? Seriously?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Weren’t the Ugandan Jew, the Nigerian Jew, the Chinese Jew, the Yemeni Jew, the Indian Jew, the Zimbabwean Jew, and the Iraqi Jew all at the Arch of Titus?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha – I can’t stop laughing – this idea of the Middle Eastern people moving to Nigerian and – morphing into Nigerian and the those who went to Europe – morphing into the white man — I am still laughing! What a strange bunch of delusional people! I kind of remember Michael Jackson’s song, I think ‘remember the time’ where the faces kept changing on that video.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Also remember that the idea of black Jews is heavily embarrassing to the white Ashkenazi Jews! They love to claim to have genetic relations with the Arab Jews but never with the black African Jews.

        • Helen4Yemen

          “Judea” is an English word since the letter ‘J’ nor the sound ‘J’ do not exist in Hebrew.

          Yes or no?

        • Helen4Yemen

          Judea – Jews

          Arabia – Arabs

          Ashkenazi ?

        • Helen4Yemen

          It is PALESTINE – not Israel

          Plehve: “What sort of help then do you ask of us?”

          Herzl: Russian intervention with the Sultan, in order to secure a charter for

          colonization of Palestine. Herzl’s diary entry of Aug 10, 1903

        • Helen4Yemen

          “Jews waiting 2000 years to reclaim their homeland”
          __________

          The Ashkenazi – who now makes up 90% of world Jewry- is

          a convert – having converted only in the 9th century.

          No Ashkenazi is Semite, not one. I am a Semite and

          when I look at the Ashkenazi, I am looking at George Bush,

          i.e. at someone vividly European as George Bush.

          • d gitalgravity

            There is no an ounce of proof that ” 90% of world Jewry- is convert” that’s a total lie.
            You are a brainwashed, degenerate jihadist LIAR

          • Helen4Yemen

            An estimated 90% of American Jews are Ashkenazi, tracing their heritage to Eastern Europe, France or Germany. The remaining 10% are Sephardic linking their heritage to the Mediterranean or Mizrahi tracing their heritage to Persia, Iran or the Middle East.
            http://www.*jewishgeneticdiseases.*org/for-physicians/

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jews of European descent, often called Ashkenazim, account for some 90% of the more than 13 million Jews in the world today http://www.*ynetnews.*com/articles/0,7340,L-4339595,00.html

          • d gitalgravity

            This article you refer to is a based on a work of Eran Elhaik a 32 year old’s graduate student thesis that at least 95% of the world DNA experts find laughable and preposterous, many of those experts have been working in this field longer than Eran Elhaik.
            Nice try… get an education first before you try talking about things you are clueless about.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Google = DANCING ISRAELIS + 911

        • Helen4Yemen

          An Ashkenzi immigrant calls the Arabs barbarians

          and Hitler called you what?

          Hitler: “Later I often grew sick to my stomach from the smell of these caftan-wearers. Added to this, there was their unclean dress and their generally unheroic appearance.”

          You see, I do not agree with Hitler that Jews were not clean.

          • peepsqueek

            I don’t believe that you care if they are clean or unclean, religious or not religious, Ashkenazi or Sephardic, etc. Nor did Hitler.

            Israel’s Arab neighbors, Jordan and Egypt, have maintained peace with Israel for decades, and they have all benefited from it.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am a person of color and Mein Kampf is filled with hatred for my kind.

            Everything about Hitler disgusts me.

            I never saod anything negative about Jews except to say the following:

            1- The Ashkenazi have no other connection to Palestine except as European converts to Judaism.

            2- The Ashkenzi in Palestine are European colonists just like the French in Algeria.

            3- The Ashkenazi are not Semites, because I am one and I aught to know who is not.

            If you see hate in the above comments, let me know.

          • peepsqueek

            You call yourself a semite because your family comes from a semitic Country and you speak a semitic language. However, that whole area if full of mixed blood. This conflict is also over State identity. There are 22 “Arab” Countries in the Middle East that define themselves as both Arab States and Muslim States. There are 22 Arab Countries that belong to the League of “Arab” Nations and the Organization of “Islamic” Cooperation. There is no Coptic State, no Assyrian State, no Berber State, no Kurdish State, no Dinka State, etc. There is one tiny Jewish State, and you do not like it, regardless of the genetic mix in their veins. You said you have never be genetically tested, but I can tell you that everyone the I have ever met, that was genetically tested, was shocked at home mixed they really are, regardless of what they call themselves.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Guess who is not of mixed blood? The European Ashkenazi. 44 genetic diseases that are suffered only by the Ashkenazi at very high rates is enough scientific evidence that they are a people on to themselves, because the Ashkenazi only repdocue with other Ashkenazi – and what is often referred to as a ‘Jewish look’ is actually an Ashkenazi look since the Yemeni Jew look like the Yemenis and a Chinese Jew looks Chinese.

          • Lonny

            Poor dumb Jew-hateTWAT and her skin-color racism. Ashkenazis descended from the Hebrews. They know that. The Europeans know that. The Europeans didn’t consider the Jews to be European.

          • peepsqueek

            Jews are not a race, they are a collective people who have maintained a culture, an ancient text, traditions, rituals, a language, and a historic homeland of Israel. Look many countries that Muslims claim is Muslim or Islamic land, regardless of the indigenous peoples beliefs and laws. If you are going to look at this dilemma with a balanced scale, you would not single out Israel for negative thing you can find to destroy the one tiny Jewish State. I don’t know any Jews that have the diseases you have mentioned, do you? I am sure you can find pockets of them in some places. Are you suggesting that people should live, dictated by genetic testing? They did not have this specific genetic testing in Hitler’s day, but he theorized what you are suggesting.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “There are 22 “Arab” Countries in the Middle East”

            Why is that the business of the European Jew more than the business of the Chinese or Japanese? Tell me where Ashkenazi concerned himself with Arab states until he stole Palestin.

          • Lonny

            It’s the business of Jews because they live there, JewhateTWAT.

            Jew-hateTWAT’s giving Europeans permission to go on massive murder sprees against Arabs because the Arabs aren’t European.

          • peepsqueek

            So you are implying that Ashkenazi Jews cannot live in one tiny Jewish State, but 58 Countries at the United Nations have declared themselves Muslim States and all belong to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation at the UN General Assembly. Do you have a balanced scale?

          • Helen4Yemen

            ASHKENAZI means EUROPEAN! You do not get that?

            The ASHKENAZI homeland is EUROPE! You don’t that?

          • Lonny

            Europeans said that the Jews were Middle Eastern, racistCUNT.

          • peepsqueek

            Ashkenaz was applied in the Middle Ages to Jews living along the Rhine River in northern France and western Germany. The center of Ashkenazi Jews later spread to Poland-Lithuania and now there are Ashkenazi settlements all over the world. The term “Ashkenaz” became identified primarily with descendants of German Jews. What is your point?

          • Helen4Yemen

            The point is that ASHKENAZI claiming Palestine is just like
            Nigerians claiming Norway to be their ancestral homeland.
            Here is a test for the European Jews. Look in the mirror, who is staring back?
            Don’t be shy. Just answer the question —

            a) Chinese
            b) M/E
            c) European
            d) African
            e) Japanese

            What is your answer?

          • Lonny

            Nigerians aren’t from Norway, racistCUNT.

            Ashkenazis are from Israel, racistCUNT.

            In fact, Ashkenazis and all the other Jews are the ACTUAL “Palestinians” racistCUNT.

          • peepsqueek

            One good looking guy of mixed races and cultural heritage.

          • Helen4Yemen

            That tiny ‘Jewish state’ was created at the behest and for the benefit of the Ashkenazi. Why couldn’t the Ashkenazi erect his state in his homeland in Europe?

          • Lonny

            Sorry, Jew-hateTWAT. It was created for all the Jews so they wouldn’t be ruled over by Arabs for the rest of their existence.

          • peepsqueek

            Are you playing ignorant? Haven’t you seen what happens to a people that do not have the power to defend themselves, when those in power want what you have? Did you want them to build a homeland on the ashes of six million family members? Jews used to live in Mecca before the invention of Islam. What made your semitic Arab family move to the US, on land that was brutally taken from the indigenous people?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jews did live in Mecca and other parts of the ME but never European Ashkenazi. The ‘holocaust’ is a European affair and the Germans should have paid back the Ashkenazi with a piece of German land.
            __
            Jabotinsky : ZIONISM = COLONIALISM ” My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. “

          • Lonny

            DNA shows the Ashkenazi are descended from the Hebrews, racistCUNT.

          • peepsqueek

            Nor were there any Europeans, Middle Easterners, or Africans in the Americas, which means there were no Jews, Christians, or Muslims in the Americas. Most of us are here today as a result of this history. You just want a do-over when it comes to the one tiny Jewish State, in a sea of Islamic take over of the Middle East and North Africa.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky :

            ” Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done? “

          • Lonny

            Jabotinsky dind’t change Ashkenazi Jews from being from the Israel area and being seen as Middle Eastern by ACTUAL Europeans, racistCUNT.

          • peepsqueek

            Why don’t you ask all the indigenous peoples where the Islamic invasions have forced them to live under some from of Islamic Sharia, political Islam, and Islamism, regardless of the indigenous peoples beliefs, laws, religious philosophies?

          • Lonny

            You’re a person of racism and low IQ, Jew-hateTwat.

            Jews are connected to Palestine because they are the actual and original Palestinians. That keeps being proven to you, but you keep preferring your own brand of racist stupidity.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          The term “genocide” was coined following the Shoah, or Holocaust, and its prohibition was enshrined in the United Nations convention presented in 1948 and adopted in 1951: the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. The convention is not retroactive but is applicable to US-Indigenous relations since 1988, when the US Senate ratified it. The genocide convention is an essential tool for historical analysis of the effects of colonialism in any era, and particularly in US history.

          In the convention, any one of five acts is considered genocide if “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”:

          (a) killing members of the group;

          (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

          (c) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

          (d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

          (e) forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

          “Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Paris, 9 December 1948,” Audiovisual Library of International Law, ->http://untreaty.un.ORG/cod/avl/ha/cppcg/cppcg.html (accessed December 6, 2012). See also Josef L. Kunz, “The United Nations Convention on Genocide,” American Journal of International Law 43, no. 4 (October 1949) 738–46.

          By that measure the alien invader European Ashkenazi were clearly genocidal when they executed their evil Plan Dalet.

          Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

          Over 500 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Palestinians have been in Palestine continuously for over ten thousand years under many name, rulers, and religions, far longer than anything called Jewish even existed, including the last two thousand years, when the invader European ZioNazis certainly weren’t, if ever. They were also the ones who were the ancient Jews, before they converted to Christianity, before they converted to Islam.

          • Lonny

            Complete break with reality. Palestinians haven’t been around for 10,000 years. The longest-standing people who’ve been there have been the Jews and the Jews have been there for 4000 years. “Palestinians” are Arabs who immigrated into the region and only started doing so 1300 years ago.

          • garybkatz

            Actually, most of the Arabs in Israel arrived much more recently, starting in the 1880s. They were drawn to the region by economic opportunities created by ZIONISTS (ironic, huh?). Prior to and around that period, the region was sparsely populated. This condition was described by visitors such as Mark Twain and Alfred Seward (Abe Lincoln’s Secretary of State). The so-called Palestinians are made up of tribes that hailed from all over the Middle East. Even Arafat was born in Cairo.

          • Lonny

            Exactly. I am familiar with all that, by the way. The Jews generated the best economy in the Middle East through modern agriculture, and by building cities… created a huge boom for Arabs to migrate. That’s one of the reasons so many Arab clans have family names from Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.

            Start asking some of the Jew-haters to name one single book about the “Palestinians” from the 19th century or before. They never will because there weren’t “Palestinians” until they started self-identifying as such in 1964… and even then, they openly stated that the West Bank belonged to Jordan and Gaza belonged to Egypt.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            That’s pretty stupid of you to put that nonsense just in front of a refutation of it.

          • Lonny

            Name a book about your “Palestinians” which was written in the 19th century or before, DumbCumOnFace.

          • garybkatz

            Compared to believing “Palestinians” were in Israel for 10,000 years?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Do a search on “Palestinian genetics”, if you dare.

          • Lonny

            It says they were penguins who got lost in the desert and muted.

          • peepsqueek

            Egyptians were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic. Syrians (Assyrians) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic, Moroccans (Berbers) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic, Iraqis (Kurds, Assyrians, Armenians, Azides, etc) were not Arabs nor did they speak Arabic, Libya was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, the Sudan (tribal Africa) was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, Tunisia was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic. Why are they all called “Arab” Countries, belong to the League of “Arab” Nations, and all have to live under some form of Islamic Sharia, which is Arabian?

          • Helen4Yemen

            An Arab is anyone who speaks Arabic as a mother tongue and since Arabic is a Semitic language, all Arabs are Semites. The Arabs are one people connected by a common language, alphabet, history, traditions, music, dance, art, literature, customs, i.e. a people. Arabs are Jews, Muslims, Christians. Jews are a religious group of very diverse racial make up such as Ugandan-Jews, Kenyan-Jews, Nigerian-Jews, Chinese-Jews, Yemeni-Jews, German-Jews. Nothing binds the Jews of many countries and races except for a common religion.

          • Lonny

            Jew-hateTwat takes it upon herself to tell Jews who they are…. and gets it wrong, as usual.

          • garybkatz

            I’m always amused by fools taken in by propaganda that “Palestinians” make up as they go along. They will claim to be Canaanites, Philistines, Arabs or whatever suits their lie. They didn’t even start making these outlandish claims until the last couple of decades. You believe this BS because you CHOOSE to believe it; you WANT to believe it, because it folds into your psychotic obsession with a tiny Jewish nation.

          • Lonny

            The Palestinians descended from woolly mammoths and saber-toothed tigers.

          • Helen4Yemen

            It is Palestine – not Israel

            Jabotinksy: There can be no voluntary agreement between ourselves and the Palestine Arabs. Not now, nor in the prospective future. … it is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority.

          • Lonny

            It’s Israel, Jew-hateTWAT. Notice the flag and how many countries recognize it as a full on country.

            When is “Palestine” going to print its own money, Jew-hateTWAT?

          • Helen4Yemen

            It is Palestine – not Israel

            David Ben-Gurion: “The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill-from the Nile to the Euphrates.”

          • Lonny

            Israel, Jew-hateTWAT. Palestine doesn’t currently exist.

          • Lonny

            I often challenge the Jew-haters to name one single book about the “Palestinians” from the 19th century or prior. They never can. That’s quite something for a people who’ve “been around” for 10,000, 1000, or even 100 years.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I’m going to have fun watching Helen trample your tiny intellect.

          • Lonny

            By spamming her usual racism that you sit around like a seal and applaud for catching a herring?

        • Helen4Yemen

          Palestine population
          Year — Non-Jews — Jews — % Non-Jew/Jew
          1851 — 327,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
          1861 — 356,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
          1881 — 422,000 — 25,000 — 95/5
          1895 — 522,000 — 47,000 — 92/8
          1914 — 675,000 — 85,000 — 87/13
          1919 — 500,000 — 65,000 — 87/13
          1922 — 723,000 — 93,000 — 89/11
          1924 — 765,000 — 113,000 — 87/13
          1931 — 881,000 — 175,000 — 83/17
          1936 — 1,003,000 — 370,000 — 73/27
          1940 — 1,113,000 — 467,000 — 70/30
          1945 — 1,295,000 — 564,000 — 70/30
          1948 — 1,319,000 — 650,000 — 67/33

          Note:

          – The Jews increased from 13,000 in 1851 to 650,000 in 1948 – which is they multiplied by 50 times

          – The non-Jews grew from 327,000 to 1,319,000 in the same period, which is they multiplied by 4 times.

          – How is it that ‘the Jews’ grew by 50 times vs 4 times for non-Jews?

          • Lonny

            Already addressed that one, dumb spamming Jew-hateTWAT.

            Palestine included Jordan up until 1921.

            The Arabs were migrants who travelled through the region seasonally. The Jews lived in the towns and cities.

            After Jewish immigration began under the Ottomans, the Jews built the best economy in the region and this attracted Arab immigrants.

            Jew-hateTWAT says the Jewish LAWFUL immigrants are foreign invaders, but that the Arab immigrants are indigenous.

        • Helen4Yemen

          You have failed to answer all those questions posed to you earlier.
          ___________
          4th time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?Yes or no?
          ___________

          Is there a “Jewish culture”?
          ___________
          Is Palestine equally the ‘ancestral’ homeland of the Nigerian and Indian and Kenyan and Lithuanian and Yemeni and German and Chinese and Ugandan Jews?
          ___________
          Would Hitler be able to distinguish on facial appearance between
          Hillary Clinton and Tzili Livini?

          Yes or no?
          ___________
          Did Hitler consider the Ugandan Jew a black person or a Jew?
          ___________

          Tell me how the Ashkenazi is connected to Palestine?

          a) Is it because God gave land to future European converts?
          b)Is it because white Europeans are only ‘returning’?
          c)The European holocaust?

          Tell me?
          ___________

          But the problem is that on your ‘ancestral homeland’, you stick out as aliens, as Europeans, just like the British tourists do in Kenya!
          Haha! I laughed!
          ___________

          1- Would the Europeans distinguish between Hillary Clinton and Tzipi Livny?
          2- Would the Europeans distinguish between David Duke and Michael Oren (Bornstein)?
          Aren’t the Ashkenazi indistinguishable from the Europeans and they look just as European as the rest of the Europeans? Yes or no?
          ___________

          • Lonny

            You’re a dumbCUNT.

            You fail to see the answers.

            All groups of Jews are related. DNA studies prove it.

            There’s a Jewish culture. Why do you think you call them Jews, racistCUNT?

            Hitler did what he wanted in identifying Jews. Did he misidentify anyone, racistCUNT?

            Jews are Jews, racistCUNT. That’s why you call them “Jews,” racistCUNT.

            DNA shows that Ashkenazis are Middle Eastern, racistCUNT. The Europeans thought they were Middle Eastern, racistCUNT. The Ashkenazis thought they were Middle Eastern, racistCUNT.

      • Richard Galber

        Semitic refers to a group of languages that include Hebrew and Arabic as well as others
        It does not refer to a people (check your dictionary)
        The term antisemitism arose after someone coined the phrase to refer to a particular hate; hatred of Jews
        This term ‘Antisemitism’ was coined in the mid 1800’s in what later became part of the German state
        Try to use terms in their correct meaning, otherwise you will just be displaying crass ignorance

        • Helen4Yemen

          1- 90% of world Jewry (95% of US Jewry) is Ashkenazi – who are European converts to Judaism and to coin the expression ‘anti-Semitic’ for bias against European non-Semitic Ashkenazi is silly at best. Would you say, ‘anti-white’ to express bias against blacks?

          2- Yes, Semitic is a language group and the only Semites are all Arabs and Ethiopians and nobody else since the Ashkenazi spoke Yiddish and not Hebrew. Learning to speak Hebrew does not make one a Semite just like an Chinese learning to speak English does not become an Englishman.

          3- I am a Semite and I aught to know who is and is not a Semite.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Anit-Semitism was a slur erroneously invented for the hatred of non-Semite Ashkenazi. If you don’t want to be displaying the crass ignorance of using an erroneously applied term, try using anti-Jew, or anti-Ashkenazi instead.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Exactly! You have to remember why they loved the expression of ‘anti-Semite’

            a) for the Ashkenazi, anything that would make them appear to be from the ME is
            something they love.

            b) for the Europeans, they hated the Ashkenazi and what better way to distance their
            origin from those they hate than to say they do not belong in Europe but in Palestine. David Duke is the greatest spokeperson that the Ashkenazi are not Khazars and the reason is because he wants a distance between his Europe and the people he hates.

    • This has been going on for a century all the way back when Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Betarim instigated the riots you people who never actually read history are always falsely going on about…

      It’s easy to just lie as you Hasbara trolls do without pause, it takes time and dedication to actually read all the documents to understand the truth. Of course, you must be able to read and comprehend basic concepts like the rule of law. But over the years I have found that wingnuts such as yourself know nothing about nuance or facts, just incessant Jew hate.

      The irony here is that you lying Hasbara trolls are the biggest real anti-Semites this planet has ever seen. After all, you have helped destroy the Jewish national home forever. As more people catch on to what you have done, they won’t cross the street to pee on you if you were on fire.

      No real Jew denies that they were/are Palestinians or Palestine. It’s just stooopid. My goodness it’s as if you cannot even read that tiny little document called the Balfour Declaration.

      In it, Balfour acknowledges readily that in 1917, Palestine was a country. This fact was codified in Article 22, paragraphs 1 and 4 of the League of Nations Covenant when the state of Palestine was officially created twenty-four years before Israel, in majority Muslim Palestinian Palestine, named as Palestinians by Winston Churchill in 1922 (British White Paper) and proved that he was talking about Muslim Palestinians as the official British Census of Palestine shows, before the ethnic cleansing that was to come, there were SEVEN TIMES more indigenous Palestinians than Yishuv Jews.

      In short, you have been schooled. Try a public library, I suggest you start with The Statehood of Palestine, by Johnathan Quigley, [Knopf 2015]. Quigley was instrumental as well in the state of Palestine becoming the 123rd state to accede to the Rome Statute, giving Palestine access to the ICC, who is on the ground in Palestine right now.

      • Helen4Yemen

        1- Can you please tell me why Palestine is the ‘Jewish national home’?
        2- Who made it so?
        3- What do you base that assumption on?
        4- Do you not agree that Palestine was the home of its inhabitants, the Palestinian Muslims-Christians-Jews?
        5- How is the European Ashkenazi connected to Palestine?
        6- Was Palestine not taken over by force?
        7- The discord between the European Jews and European Christians involved two white Europeans. Can you tell me why the Palestinians wound up paying the price?
        8- Do you probably hold the notion that white Euro Jews were only ‘returning’ to Palestine?
        9- Do you possibly believe that the God of the Jews set aside Palestine for his Chosen People.
        10- You have got to tell me why you consider Palestine the homeland of the Nigerian, German, Chinese, Indian, Lithuanian, Russia, Yemeni Jews?

        • Lonny

          Dumb Jew-hateTwat still hasn’t figured out that Jews have been living there for 3500 years and that is where they are from.

          Dumb Jew-hateTWAT hasn’t figured out that the Europeans didn’t consider the Jews to be European and the Jews didn’t consider themselves to be European either.

        • garybkatz

          Israel covers one-sixth of one percent of the Middle East. Arabs swarmed out of the Arabian Peninsula and invaded 3 continents. And you’re obsessed with Israel. See a shrink.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The Arabs conquered the Palestinians. They didn’t do genocidal country-stealing like the European ZioNazi thugs of modern times. You’re obsessed with justifying the stealing of Palestine from its indigenous people. See a shrink. Find out why you are so psychopathic.

          • Lonny

            Hardly anyone was even there in the 1800s, dipschitt.

      • peepsqueek

        The Rome Statute established four core international crimes: genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression. “Genocide” is out, on the basis that Palestinians continue to triple and quadruple their populations both inside and outside of Israel proper. “Crimes against humanity” “war crimes” and “crime of aggression are all out, on the basis that suicide bombers on public Israeli transportation and crowded market places, the specific targeting of Israeli civilians, and the firing of thousand of rockets indiscriminately into Israeli civilian territory, are not only “acts of war” they are all violations of the “UN Rules of War”, which will probably neutralize the arguments, whether some of the accusations have validity or not.

        • You had probably better read the actual Rome Statute before you type another idiotic and false word. It’s really embarrassing for you. It’s almost as if you are bound and determined to show everyone just how truly stupid you are. Here, let me get that for ya:

          “Article 6, Genocide

          For the purpose of this Statute, ‘genocide’ means any of the following acts
          committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or
          religious group, as such:

          (a) Killing members of the group;
          (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
          (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring
          about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
          (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
          (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

          ==

          Argue with that you little pissant. Read it five times until it sinks in just how badly wrong you are. Israel is in violation of them ALL. And it only takes one. Perhaps that’s why all these human rights groups and the UN are all saying the same thing? Perhaps they can read and comprehend basic concepts, and you are simply too lazy to even read documents before you run your mouth…

          Now let’s do crimes against humanity shall we because Israel is obviously engaged with everything on this list as well:

          Article 7, Crimes against humanity

          1. For the purpose of this Statute, ‘crime against humanity’ means any of the
          following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack
          directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:

          (a) Murder;
          (b) Extermination;
          (c) Enslavement;
          (d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
          (e) Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of
          fundamental rules of international law;
          (f) Torture;
          (g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced
          sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
          (h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political,
          racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph
          3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under
          international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph
          or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
          (i) Enforced disappearance of persons;
          (j) The crime of apartheid;
          (k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great
          suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.
          2. For the purpose of paragraph 1:
          (a) ‘Attack directed against any civilian population’ means a course of conduct
          involving the multiple commission of acts referred to in paragraph 1
          against any civilian population, pursuant to or in furtherance of a State or
          organizational policy to commit such attack;
          (b) ‘Extermination’ includes the intentional infliction of conditions of life,
          inter alia the deprivation of access to food and medicine, calculated to
          bring about the destruction of part of a population;
          (c) ‘Enslavement’ means the exercise of any or all of the powers attaching to
          the right of ownership over a person and includes the exercise of such
          power in the course of trafficking in persons, in particular women and
          children;
          (d) ‘Deportation or forcible transfer of population’ means forced displacement
          of the persons concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts from the area
          in which they are lawfully present, without grounds permitted under
          international law;
          (e) ‘Torture’ means the intentional infliction of severe pain or suffering,
          whether physical or mental, upon a person in the custody or under the
          control of the accused; except that torture shall not include pain or
          suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to, lawful sanctions;
          (f) ‘Forced pregnancy’ means the unlawful confinement of a woman forcibly
          made pregnant, with the intent of affecting the ethnic composition of any
          population or carrying out other grave violations of international law. This
          definition shall not in any way be interpreted as affecting national laws
          relating to pregnancy;
          (g) ‘Persecution’ means the intentional and severe deprivation of fundamental
          rights contrary to international law by reason of the identity of the group
          or collectivity;
          (h) ‘The crime of apartheid’ means inhumane acts of a character similar to
          those referred to in paragraph 1, committed in the context of an
          institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one
          racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the
          intention of maintaining that regime;
          (i) ‘Enforced disappearance of persons’ means the arrest, detention or
          abduction of persons by, or with the authorization, support or
          acquiescence of, a State or a political organization, followed by a refusal to
          acknowledge that deprivation of freedom or to give information on the
          fate or whereabouts of those persons, with the intention of removing them
          from the protection of the law for a prolonged period of time.
          3. For the purpose of this Statute, it is understood that the term ‘gender’ refers to the
          two sexes, male and female, within the context of society. The term ‘gender’ does
          not indicate any meaning different from the above.

          ==

          Now you know what actually keeps the self-admitted war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu up at night. And here you thought it was Iran… Sarah will not be spending any of that stolen soda bottle money in Paris. Well, she can do it with Arafat’s wife, because Bibi will be in the dock at the Hague. The conditions are just about ripe, and President Obama is about to give it all a push forward. The master chess-player has an ace up his sleeve as he always has. And the rule of law is clearly and without doubt on the side of the Palestinians. Once the politics falls the rest of the way, it’s over and it will seem overnight and everyone will wonder why they did not think of it before. The rule of law, it’s a comin’ for Bibi and the Likud and that odious little Ayelet Shaked. And one day advocates of genocide like you.

          • Lonny

            You’re an idiot, goatfaced jihadi-blower.

            Israel isn’t committed to destroying in whole or in part a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. And if it was, it’s doing an awfully lousy job of it!

            When Israel offers them territory upon which they can form a sovereign nation, is that part of that destruction as well?

            Go back to blowing jihadis.

          • Those pesky UN fragmentation maps prove you wrong troll boy. By answering the comment I made to pipsqueak, it is clear you simply want to troll instead of actually opening another tab and cross checking what I am wiring here. It is unremarkable. The world is coming to this very consensus because it is the rule of law. Politically being the client state of the US especially during the Cold War, it was politically expedient to protect Israel. But since the end of the Cold War and then Bibi, Israel has slowly evolved into what it always was intended to be by Revisionist Zionist standards and knuckle-dragging religious extremists who are not different than Daesh. Young Americans are deserting this crazy idea of supporting Israel as an Apartheid State. And it could not come soon enough for the Palestinians, but it is coming and you helped. The One State(tm) boy. One day you and the other Hasbara trolls will be seen as a major force in the destruction of the only Jewish national home there ever will be. Making you a world class anti-Semite.

          • Lonny

            Fragmentation maps, eh, jihadi blower? And you can name a day at any point in history when the Palestinians had a contiguous territory, can you?

            How do you “destroy” a people who haven’t even BEEN a people and have never had a country at any point in their existence, jihadi-blower?

            Israel isn’t destroyed. All that jihadi-goo is causing you to hallucinate.

          • As I have proved here beyond a shadow of a doubt using primary documents, the state of Palestine was ALL of Palestine twenty-four years prior to Israel. This is simply not up for debate. You might note that this is precisely why the General Assembly resolution twenty-four years was called the “partition” resolution. But then as I also wrote in this thread you lying Hasbara troll, alt-right wingers are simply too stooopid to eve comprehend the most basic fact about who was where when and what was created by whom and how.

            The rest of the world, most particularly every diplomat and head of state on this planet, full well understands these facts as I have laid them out. It is US policy that the colonies are illegal. They always have been, everyone who is anyone knows this because they can read and understand Article 49, paragraph 6 of the 4th Geneva convention and all the associated UN Security Council resolutions that bear me out including UNSCR 465 which says in part:

            “Affirming once more that the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 is applicable to the Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem…

            Bearing in mind the specific status of Jerusalem and, in particular, the need for protection and preservation of the unique spiritual and religious dimension of the Holy Places in the city,

            Drawing attention to the grave consequences which the settlement policy is bound to have on any attempt to reach a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East…

            5. Determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel’s policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East…

            7. Calls upon all States not to provide Israel with any assistance to be used specifically in connexion with settlements in the occupied territories;”

            — Excerpted from the unanimous UN Security Council resolution 465, March 1st, 1980

            As you can see you antisemitic little Hasbara troll, you are wrong. Sorry about your luck. These facts have been known for decades, there is nothing controversial about them, the colonies are illegal lock, stock and bagel and in fact, UN member countries are enjoined from helping Israel’s illegal colony project, but they have been breaking international law for quite some time to let Israel get away with t.

            Primarily because of US politics and the expediency of having a land based aircraft carrier at the beck and call of the US. But our little client state is getting out of hand and must be brought to heel. President Obama will be doing that shortly. And you will writhe and cry and whine and clasp your sweaty little Hasbara troll hands and there is nothing you can do about it. Heh heh. Poor boo boo. Now run and cry to mama little one.

          • Lonny

            Sorry, jihadi-blower. You don’t understand what those primary documents say. You deliberately misrepresent what they say when you cite them.

            The Palestinians reject “partition” every time it’s offered, jihadi-blower.

            The rest of the world didn’t elect you to be their spokesasshoIe.

            Article 2 of the 4th Geneva Conventions stipulates that the territory must be the territory belonging to a High Contracting Party. Which HCP did the territories belong to? But you have that pointed out to you every time you open your mouth and that Jew-hating jihadiSemen pours out of it and onto these forums.

            Now, explain how it was lawful for Jordan to cleanse the territories of all Jews and by which mechanism it was unlawful for Jews to reclaim their properties and exercise their property rights. Exactly how did cleansing Jews for 18 years make it unlawful for Jews to move back in.

            Don’t forget to blow a few more jihadis and come running back to spit back onto the forum.

          • Heh heh. Such an ignorant little tool. It’s like pulling the wings off of flies and I don’t do that. But with you, I enjoy it. From the High Contracting Parties to Geneva on December 17th, 2014:

            “8. The participating High Contracting Parties express their deep concern about the impact of the continued occupation of the Occupied Palestinian Territory. They recall that, according to the advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice of 9 July 2004, the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, at least insofar as it deviates from the Green Line, and its associated regime, are contrary to international humanitarian law. They equally express their deep concern, from an international humanitarian law standpoint, about certain measures taken by the Occupying Power in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including the closure of the Gaza Strip. They reaffirm the illegality of the settlements in the said territory and of the expansion thereof and of related unlawful seizure of property as well as of the transfer of prisoners into the territory of the Occupying Power.”

            It’s as much fun making a fool out of you as it is when I do it to PZ, who I have no doubt will be showing up soon along with his little sockpuppet Hasbara troll paring, Eric Hammer, the jihadi from the Golan.

            I’ll bet you did not know that the state of Palestine is also a signatory to Geneva? Heh heh, I love educating stooopid Hasbara trolls.

            “Palestine’s application to join the Geneva Conventions has been accepted and the other member countries have been informed, a spokesman for the Swiss foreign ministry confirmed on Friday. The request was formally registered on Thursday.
            Also on Thursday, Palestinian applications to join 13 other conventions were accepted by the United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. Among these were conventions governing diplomatic relations, children’s rights, corruption and prohibition of torture.

            Switzerland is the caretaker of the Geneva Conventions and their protocols, which form the basis for international humanitarian law. Among other things they govern humanitarian operations in conflict zones, protecting civilians, medical personnel, the injured and sick, and prisoners of war.
            In November 2012, Palestine acquired observer status at the United Nations, providing access to various international conventions.

            In light of the conflict with Israel over the West Bank and the Gaza strip, the Palestinians are particularly interested in the 4th Geneva Convention, part of which states that ‘the Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies’.”

            — Palestinians join Geneva Conventions, April 11th, 2014, Swiss Broadcasting Corporation

            Poor boo boo, exposed as a lying fool again.

          • Lonny

            Nah… it’s more like blowing jihadis. Do continue.

            Which High Contracting Party are you claiming the territory belonged to, jihadi blower? Why did these other parties need to deliberately misinterpret the Conventions?

            Advisory opinion? What’s an advisory opinion, jihadi-blower? Is that a law in your fly-sized brain?

          • They are THE High Contracting Parties to Geneva you pusillanimous fool. Learn about the Conventions you interminable idiot. I’m not doing all your research for you. Of course, you are too entirely stupid to understand that I quoted right form the documents, had you read them you would know this. You are a fool. A nutcase. A worthless wart on the butt of humanity, and not even a good joke. UNSCR itself was passed UNANIMOUSLY 36 years-ago, just how stupid can you be? The High Contracting Parties THEMSELVES made the news release. You must be ten. Like a little school boy obsessed with something you have never had and you are longing for.

            You have some sort of obsession of being a “jihadi blower” and you are using projection that any first year psych major can see…

          • Lonny

            Jihadi-blower…. Did they rewrite the Geneva Conventions while they were at it? No, stupidphuqq.

            Now, which HCP did the land belong to, because THAT is what the Article says very plainly in black and white.

            Go blow another jihadi so you can, at least, engage in something you know about.

            (tempted to do another “I know you are but what am I?” aren’t you?)

          • Oh and honey, there’s a jihadi under your bed. Made ya look!

          • Lonny

            Yep. You already blew him and he doesn’t want to spray your face anymore. Says you should stop using your teeth.

          • Old as I am, and that is my real photo, given that I am not a sniveling little impotent coward such as yourself, I still have my teeth. You must be about twelve. I’m starting to think the way you post, you are still a virgin dreaming of being used by a bearded jihadi and than sharing his goat…

            It’s special how you think that mouth speaks for Jews. You are an embarrassment to civilized humanity.

            You can see a large picture of me at our About Us page at BBSNews. You seem to be obsessed. But if you want to use my photo along with your goat fantasy you go right ahead.

          • Lonny

            Goatface burps up another load of jihadiSemen onto the forum.

            Yes, you have your teeth and that’s what the jihadis complain about most.

            Goatface’s best insults are always “I know you are but what am I?”

            It’s funny how I don’t claim to speak for Jews, but your mouth sure blows a lot of jihadis!

            Why would anyone want to look at a large picture of you unless they want to purge their stomach contents?

          • peepsqueek

            You are seriously deficient. I would love to see Israel go before an international Court, as long as all the Middle East leaders are held up to the very same standards in the same Court. You just want to shine a light on Israel and give a pass to the surrounding Islamic Countries with institutional apartheid, sectarian apartheid, religious apartheid, gender apartheid, and have to live under dictatorships and totalitarian governments.

            Pretend you are making your case before the world body, and see how far your personal attacks get you.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Do you dispute any of the following quotes by Benny Morris?

          1- “One of the revelations in the book is that on October 31, 1948, the commander of the Northern Front, Moshe Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite the removal of the Arab population. Carmel took this action immediately after a visit by Ben-Gurion to the Northern Command in Nazareth. There is no doubt in my mind that this order originated with Ben-Gurion. Just as the expulsion order for the city of Lod, which was signed by Yitzhak Rabin, was issued immediately after Ben-Gurion visited the headquarters of Operation Dani [July 1948].”

          2- “From April 1948, Ben-Gurion is projecting a message of transfer. There is no explicit order of his in writing, there is no orderly comprehensive policy, but there is an atmosphere of [population] transfer. The transfer idea is in the air. The entire leadership understands that this is the idea. The officer corps understands what is required of them. Under Ben-Gurion, a consensus of transfer is created.”

          3- “Of course Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood that there could be no Jewish state with a large and hostile Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It would not be able to exist.”

          4- RE: the commanders of Operation Dani : “I definitely understand them. I understand their motives. I don’t think they felt any pangs of conscience, and in their place I wouldn’t have felt pangs of conscience. Without that act, they would not have won the war and the state would not have come into being.”

          5- “That is what Zionism faced. A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads. It was necessary to cleanse the villages from which our convoys and our settlements were fired on.”

          6- “I feel sympathy for the Palestinian people, which truly underwent a hard tragedy. I feel sympathy for the refugees themselves. But if the desire to establish a Jewish state here is legitimate, there was no other choice. It was impossible to leave a large fifth column in the country. From the moment the Yishuv [pre-1948 Jewish community in Palestine] was attacked by the Palestinians and afterward by the Arab states, there was no choice but to expel the Palestinian population. To uproot it in the course of war.”

          7- “If he was already engaged in expulsion, maybe he should have done a complete job. I know that this stuns the Arabs and the liberals and the politically correct types. But my feeling is that this place would be quieter and know less suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all. If Ben-Gurion had carried out a large expulsion and cleansed the whole country – the whole Land of Israel, as far as the Jordan River. It may yet turn out that this was his fatal mistake. If he had carried out a full expulsion – rather than a partial one – he would have stabilized the State of Israel for generations.”

          8- “I assert that a mistake was made here. Yes. The non-completion of the transfer was a mistake.” ” Transfer (expulsion) was inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism—because it sought to transform a land which was ‘Arab’ into a ‘Jewish’ state and a Jewish state could not have arisen without a major displacement of Arab population.”

          9- “Ben Gurion especially would lie quite bluntly to lots of people about lots of things in the course of ’48 and feel good about it, because he knew that it was much more important, morally speaking, to assure the survival of his people and of his state than to speak truthfully to some guy from Turkey or France.”

          10- “And what this has led me to conclude is that in 1948, it would probably have been better for everybody to have had all the Palestinians cross the Jordan River rather than having many of them stay on the Israeli side at the end of the war. In other words, if Israel had been established on all the territory between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River and the Palestinians had crossed the river and turned Transjordan into a state of their own, both peoples would have probably been happier, and the Middle East would certainly have been a pleasanter place over the next fifty years.”

          • Lonny

            How many times must it be pointed out to you that Benny Morris keeps changing his mind, racistTWAT?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Here is a great link that will educate you on the deception, intimidation, bribery, that American Jews engaged in to steal Palestine. They even disguised their voice to sound like Truman and threatened many nations with cancellation of promised American funds unless they voted for the Jewish state. Well, it is posted at none other than the Truman Online Library.

        https://www.*trumanlibrary.*org/oralhist/wright.*htm (remove *)

        • Lonny

          Dumb Jew-hateTWAT… America had nothing to do with it. The Jews tried to form a nation under the Ottomans, and then were granted one under the British. Then they declared it and fought for it when attacked.

          • None of that happened. Man, you are one dumb Hasbara troll, you can’t even get the Hasbara right.

            You are just another foul-mouthed no information Trump voting fool of a fraud. I laugh at thee fool.

          • Lonny

            Yes, goatfaced jihadi-blower. All that happened.

            You’re just another Jew-hating jihadi blower.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Can you please go on record as to why Palestine is ‘Jewish homeland’?

        Is it because of these?

        Numbers 33:52 you must force out the people living there. Destroy their idols and tear down their altars. 53 Then settle in the land—I have given it to you as your own.

        Deuteronomy 12:5 Soon you will cross the Jordan, and the Lord will help you conquer your enemies and let you live in peace, there in the land he has given you.

        Deuteronomy 7:1 People of Israel, the Lord your God will help you take the land of the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. These seven nations have more people and are stronger than Israel, but when you attack them, 2 the Lord will force them out of the land. Then you must destroy them without mercy. Don’t make any peace treaties with them, 3 and don’t let your sons and daughters marry any of them.

    • Helen4Yemen

      1. Does the term ‘apartheid’ fit Israel? Of course it does.
      Los Angeles Times May 17, 2014

      2. It’s Time to Admit It. Israeli Policy Is What It Is: Apartheid
      Haaretz Aug 17, 2015

      3.Israeli Apartheid ‘Much Worse’ Than South Africa
      Noam Chomsky – Aug 25, 2015

      4. Veteran South African activist Denis Goldberg Israel ‘an apartheid state’
      Middleeastmonitor Jul 28, 2015

      5. The tribulations of being an Ethiopian Jew
      IRSN 9 February 2012

      6. Under Israeli Apartheid, Palestinians Cannot Ride Israeli Buses
      Counterpunch OCTOBER 28, 2014

      7. Israel an apartheid state? A majority of Jews say yes!
      RT .com

      8. Apartheid in the Holy Land Desmond Tutu
      The Guardian April 28, 2002

      • Lonny

        1) RacistCUNT can’t name one single right granted to Israeli Jews that is denied to Israeli non-Jews. Israel is a full democracy.

        Repeat 1-8, racistCUNT.

      • peepsqueek

        Do you want to have a war with what I pull up in the Islamic websites?

    • Helen4Yemen

      Desmond Tutu : ” I have been to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, and I have witnessed the racially segregated roads and housing that reminded me so much of the conditions we experienced in South Africa under the racist system of Apartheid. I have witnessed the humiliation of Palestinian men, women, and children made to wait hours at Israeli military checkpoints routinely when trying to make the most basic of trips to visit relatives or attend school or college, and this humiliation is familiar to me and the many black South Africans who were corralled and regularly insulted by the security forces of the Apartheid government.”

      In an April 2010 open letter to the University of Berkeley

      • Lonny

        Desmond Tutu can’t name one single right that is granted to Israeli Jews that is denied to Israeli non-Jews and neither can you, racistCUNT.

        Palestinians aren’t Israelis living in Israel, racistCUNT.

        South African blacks were South Africans living in South Africa, racistCUNT.”

        South African blacks weren’t at war with South Africa, racistCUNT.

        Palestinians are at war with Israel, racistCUNT.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Google => “Israel’s humiliating discrimination against Arab Jews – Telegraph’

      • Lonny

        Google ==> RAcistCUNT discriminating against Jews on here for hours and she’s blubbering about discrimination?

      • Lonny

        Look up: Find one country where there’s no discrimination at all, dumb, racistCUNT.

    • Helen4Yemen

      1. Thousands in Jerusalem Protest Racism Against Ethiopian Jews – Haaretz – January 18, 2012
      2. Separate, but not equal treatment plagues Israel’s Ethiopian Jews – The Times of Israel – May 5, 2015
      3. Ethiopians in Israel: Separate, but not equal The Jerusalem Post – Jul 11, 2015
      4. Israel’s Disgustingly Racist Behavior Towards Ethiopian Jews – thedailybanter – Jan 30, 2013
      5. Israel: promised land for Jews as long as they’re not black? middleeastmonitor – Jun 24, 2012
      6. Ethiopia demands explanation from Israel for racism Ynetnews – May 10, 2015
      7. The plight of Ethiopian Jews in Israel – BBC News – May 25, 2015
      8. Israel: A disturbing discrimination against Ethiopian Jews theafricareport – Feb 5, 2013
      9. Ethiopian Jews are facing prejudice and police brutality Newsweek – May 19, 2015 .
      10. Racism, imperialism and Israel – Workers World – May 14, 2015
      11. The plight of Ethiopian Jews in Israel – BBC News – May 25, 2015

      • Lonny

        Yet, Ethiopian Jews have equal rights.

        But what is a racistCUNT like you doing blathering about racism? You engage in some of the worst racism I’ve ever seen in my life and you do it every day.

    • Helen4Yemen

      1- Israels forced birth control to Ethiopian Jews — Worldbulletin
      2- Israel Admits Ethiopian Women Were Given Birth Control Shots — Haaretz
      3- An Inconveivable Crime Israel’s patronizing and inhumane treatment of Ethiopian women is nothing new — Haaretz
      4- State of Israel forced the sterilization of Ethiopian women — Intrepidreport
      5- Ethiopian women in Israel ‘given contraceptive without consent’ — Independent
      6- Israel Forcibly Injected African Immigrants with Birth Control — Forbes
      7- Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent — Independent

      • Lonny

        All proved to be a myth, racistCUNT.

    • Helen4Yemen

      1. Ethiopian In Israeli Riot Over Dumping of Donated Blood – The New York Times – Jan 29, 1996 –
      2. Black Israelis riot over insult to their blood – The Independent -Jan 28, 1996
      3. Ethiopians outraged over blood disposal – Ynetnews – Nov 1, 2006 –
      4. Israel refuses blood donation from Ethiopian-born lawmaker -Maannews – Dec 16, 2013
      5. Ethiopian Israelis Protest Discarding Of Blood Donations -Chicago Tribune – 29, 1996
      6. Israeli Lawmaker Blood Rejected -Time – Dec 12, 2013
      7. Israel spurns blood of lawmaker -Democratic Underground – Dec 18, 2013
      8. MDA reject blood of MK of Ethiopian decent -Ynetnews – Dec 11, 2013

      • Lonny

        Ethiopia, where there’s an AIDS epidemic, right, dumb racistCUNT?

        Which countries take blood from Ethiopians?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Can people please look at the pictures of the ‘Israelites’ displayed on this article.

    To me, they have no resemblance to any people of the ME region.

    To me, they look as European as George Bush.

    They look as alien on the land of Palestine as the

    British tourists do in Thailand.

    What say you?

    • Lonny

      Jew-hateTwat still hasn’t figured out that racists have low IQs.

      • Yes, you are proving that vile lying Hasbara trolls have an IQ of about 85 or so…

        • Lonny

          Jihadi-blower comes out swinging with an “I know you are but what am I?” insult, proving that he has the mentality of a 4-year-old.

          • When you can summon the guts you little worm, you come on out here to Santa Ana reservation in New Mexico and I will take you to meet some Indian Elders who can break it down for you what genocidal settler colonialism is all about. We’ve gotten about eight apologies now for what has been done to us, and guess what troll boy?

            We are Americans, we have equal votes and equal rights and sovereignty over territory here in the US.

            Just like those 6.3 million indigenous Palestinians that Israel currently has under the jackboot with the help of clueless Useful Idiots such as yourself. I post with my real nae, I always have, and I am the editor of BBSNews. Facts and truth are my business. In twenty-six years of running the place, I have yet to see one of you chicken-hearted antisemitic keyboard warriors step forward with a real name and go on camera with me so we can show the world just how truly idiotic Hasbara trolls like you truly are.

            Come on, I’ll go on KRQE with you tomorrow and I will mop the desert with ya. But you are a fraud and a lying coward, so I’ll just giggle at ya instead. Mmmm, ‘kay? Heh heh, idiot.

          • Lonny

            Oh! Look at you, goatfaced jihadi-blower! You’re so very brave over there in New Mexico!

            The indigenous Palestinians are the Jews, goatface. And the Israeli Jews have the same exact rights as the Israeli Arabs, goatface. Israel is a democracy… same as the U.S.

            That’s why you can’t name one single right that Israeli Jews have which Israeli non-Jews are denied. Instead, you have to fling all sorts of cameldung all over the forum instead.

            Now, go blow that camel, Jew-hating piece of schitt.

          • Of course, I can name them you fool. Start with the two legal systems, one for the illegal squatting criminal “settlers” and military rule for the last half a century for the true rightful sovereign of Palestine, the Palestinians (See the Association for Civil Rights Israel, and B’Tselem, two of the most respected human rights groups on the planet. This is very very old news little fraud boy.

            The International Criminal Court of Justice ruled in 2004 that not only is the Apartheid Wall illegal where it crosses into the state of Palestine recognized by 138 states and the Vatican and soon to be the United States, but also that each and every stick of the colonies are illegal, lock stock and bagel. Not only that little impotent fraudworm, but UN Security Council resolution 465, one out of dozens, also comes to the same conclusion under the rule of law. And one more you little goon, see UNSCR 1860. The world knows full well where the state of Palestine is.

            You lose you sniveling little yellow-bellied coward… What a total putz.

          • Lonny

            If course, you CANNOT name them, goat-faced jihadi-blower. That’s why you can’t even name one single right that Israeli Jews have which Israeli non-Jews are denied.

            Your moronic rant is just another one of your mindless blatherings.

            There is no apartheid wall, jihadi-blower. That’s a security fence which stops Palestinian terrorists from entering Israel the way they did from 2000-2003.

            There is no state of Palestine, jihadi-blower. You are in a state of delusion.

            There are no colonies, jihadi-blower. There are Jews living on lands which were only cleansed of Jews from 1949-67.

            ONE tiny Jewish country where Jews have lived for 3500 years. TWENTY-ONE Arab countries spread throughout the Middle East and Africa. 57 Islamic countries spread from Africa, through the Middle East, and into Europe and Asia, but goat-faced jihadi-blower calls the Jews the “colonists.”

            The world didn’t elect you to be its spokesCoqqsucker.

            You lost your marbles a long time ago. That’s what being a racist qumguzzler does to a person.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Palestine is one, Palestine is Arab, Palestine in its entirety is occupied and not the West Bank or Gaza. Are you saying the Palestinians would be smiling ear to ear to receive 20% of their land from Master-white-Jew? You need to stop your deception pretending you are one of the good guys! Did any foreign Jew get the consent of the natives to arrive on their land? To you, there is a distinction between one group of squatting foreign Jews and another. There are no good colonists and bad colonists, it is like saying good rapists and bad rapists. Stop your deception. Palestine is Arab.
            ___
            Jabotinsky:

            “Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done?” (1923)

          • Lonny

            Palestine has been Jewish for 3500 years.

            You have 21 Arab countries to play with.

            Go phuqq yourself, racistCUNT.

            1 tiny Jewish country. 21 Arab countries. 57 Islamic countries spread from the Middle East into Africa, Asia and Europe… but the JEWS are the “colonists.” What a dumb racistCUNT.

          • Richard Galber

            The ICJ ruling was an advisory and has no standing in law.
            The 4th Geneva Convention dictates the law in any area militarily run by Israel; Basic International law for anyone with an iota of knowledge. Therefore by International Law two distinct legal systewms have to exist side by side.
            The State of Palestine does not exist as a legal state entity. It is a political entity and is recognised as such in International Law
            The UN is essentially an anti- Israel organization. It is a wonder that they have not in the General Assembly voted to say that Israel does not exist. UNESCO has already voted to say that JEWS have no connection to their Temple Mount in Jerusalem
            Correct use of facts would be appreciated

          • proudzionist

            Hess, you mongreI. BS News is nothing but your personal blog. It is not a news site, and has no employees. You are not merely the “editor” of this BLOG; you are it’s sole proprietor. And your blog has virtually no internet traffic, according the internet rating services. You have no reporters, no cameramen, no printing presses, no radio/television presence, no NOTHING. Your blog does nothing more than collect articles from actual media outlets, and then you post your commentary on those articles. You provide no actual news, and conduct no interviews. You’re nothing. You’re like a 6-year-old acting like a grownup.

            As for you repetitive invitations to “Come on, I’ll go on KRQE with you tomorrow”, you have no affiliation with KRQE, and they never heard of you at KRQE (I checked). The folks at KRQE would laugh in your face if you ever called them and asked to be given air time for your anti-Semitism. You build yourself up into some sort of journalist, when you have no experience at all in journalism/media.

            And why did you run away with your tail between you legs earlier today, when I called you out in your lies in another thread? You’re a COWARD, that’s why. Oh sure, you like to challenge people to PROVE that you’ve lied (something you do whenever you type/talk), but as soon as someone actually provides proof, you run away like a mouse.

            Am Yisrael Chai, a$$hole.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you’re proud of being a thug doing genocidal country stealing. You’re every bit as sick as the Nazis.

          • Lonny

            First genocide in all of history where the population grows faster than almost any other population on the planet.

            Meanwhile, TheDUMBcumfaced wants to rid entire regions of Jews… just like his buddies, the N@zis did.

          • proudzionist

            ldiot that you are. Who do you think we stole a country from? The British? The Ottomans? The Mongols? The Abbasids? The Romans? Morons like you haven’t a clue about the history of what used to be referred to as the region of “Palestine”. Do you REALLY believe that there was a People, Culture and Nation/Nationality named “Palestine/Palestinian”? Are you THAT ignorant? Just FYI, the so-called “Palestinians” of the early 1900’s were immigrants from Syria, Iraq, Eqypt, Saudi Arabia and other Arab lands. There is no People existing today who have had a presence in Israel as long as us Jews. This is our ancestral homeland, and we ‘aint goin’ nowhere’. As for “genocide”, don’t make me laugh. We Jews know all about your sick definitions of words like holocaust and genocide. It goes something like this…

            Palestinian definitions:

            1 dead Palestinian = slaughter
            2-4 dead Palestinians = massacre
            5-9 dead Palestinians = catastrophe
            10-19 dead Palestinians = ethnic cleansing
            20-29 dead Palestinians = annihilation
            30-39 dead Palestinians = extermination
            40-49 dead Palestinians = genocide
            50+ dead Palestinians = holocaust

            Now get your head out of Hess’ rear end. You’re blocking Helen’s exit.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You must very stupid, if you do not know who you were killing and terrorizing all this time.

          • proudzionist

            Back at ya, Pocahontas. Here’s all you need know. Israel is a State, and it’s here to stay, whereas there has NEVER been a State of Palestine. Stick that in your peace pipe, and shove it up your a$$. And if you think your ersatz “Palestinian” heroes can fire rockets and wage intifadas on us without repercussion, you’re an even bigger ldiot than Helen.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Israel is not a state. It is a thugdom of ZioNazi genocidal country stealers created by vast floods of atrocities:

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 500 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

          • proudzionist

            Yeah, good luck with that. You ldiots live in a fantasy land. Here’s a challenge. Come on over and try to take our Country from us, and see what happens to you. Our Navy can use some target practice for our beautiful new Dolphin subs.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Are you stupid and depraved enough to claim that those atrocities you didn’t do?

            It’s not your country, no matter how much you steal. In the eyes of the world you are exactly what you are, a gang of evil genocidal country stealers.

          • Lonny

            Staying on land Arabs are attempting to cleanse isn’t an atrocity, DumbCumFaced.

          • Lonny

            Israel is a state, DumbCumFaced.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Benny Morris: “Destruction could be the end of this process. It could be the end of the Zionist experiment. And that’s what really depresses and scares me.”

          • Lonny

            RacistCUNT, how’s the Islamic experiment going? Look at all the cultures which have been wiped out, and the remaining ones subjugated. But you bellyache about the Jews.

          • proudzionist

            The following is a list of countries that are more than 98% Muslim in population; where a non-Muslim would be courting death by his/her very presence:

            Morocco 99.9%
            Afghanistan 99.8%
            Tunisia 99.8%
            Iran 99.7%
            Western Sahara 99.6%
            Mauritania 99.2%
            Yemen 99.0%
            Tajikistan 99.0%
            Iraq 98.9%
            Jordan 98.8%
            Mayotte 98.8%
            Turkey 98.6%
            Somalia 98.6%
            Azerbaijan 98.4%
            Maldives 98.4%
            Niger 98.3%
            Comoros 98.3%
            Algeria 98.2%

            15 more countries are between 90% and 98% Muslim. Yet, for racist anti-Semites like you, there should not be a square inch within our ancestral homeland devoted to a Jewish-majority State.

            Is it any wonder the world cynically refers to you slime balls as ‘peaceful, tolerant people’.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “where a non-Muslim would be courting death by his/her very presence:”

            Why are these Jews risking their lives? Why don’t they go elsewhere?

            Turkey – 17,200
            Iran – 10,000
            Azerbaijan – 9,000
            Morocco – 2,500
            Tunisia – 1,500
            Total – 40,200

          • proudzionist

            The current Jewish population of Turkey is 17,000, virtually 100% of whom live in Istanbul (the only city where they some modicum of security). Currently, the Jewish community is feeling increasingly threatened by extremists. In addition to safety concerns, some Turkish Jews also immigrated to Israel to find a Jewish spouse due to the increasing difficulty of finding one in the small Turkish Jewish community. In 2012, it was reported that the number of Jews expressing interest in moving to Israel rose by 100%, a large number of Jewish business owners were seeking to relocate their businesses to Israel, and that hundreds were moving every year.
            In October 2013, it was reported that a mass exodus of Turkish Jews was underway. Reportedly, Turkish Jewish families are immigrating to Israel at the rate of one family per week on average, and hundreds of young Turkish Jews are also relocating to the United States and Europe (due to rampant anti-Semitism since the Mavi Marmara incident).

            In 1948, there were 100,000 Jews in Iran. Today, there are fewer than 10,000. The Islamization of the country has brought about strict control over Jewish educational institutions. Before the revolution, there were some 20 Jewish schools functioning throughout the country. In recent years, most of these have been closed down. In the remaining schools, Jewish principals have been replaced by Muslims. At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution, most of them for either religious reasons or their connection to Israel. For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh was hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently for assisting Jews to emigrate.

            In 2002, the total number of Jewish residents in Azerbaijan was 8,900 people with about 5,500 of them being Mountain Jews. A few more thousand descend from mixed families. In 2010, the total Jewish population in Azerbaijan was 6,400. According to the Radio Liberty report, in October, 2001 fifty gravestones in a Jewish cemetery were desecrated in Baku. The leader of the Religious Community of Mountain Jews of Azerbaijan, Semyon Ikhilov, was quoted by Radio Liberty as saying that this is not the first time such an attack has taken place. In 2002 the government of Azerbaijan has warned of the threat of rising Islamic extremism to Jewish and minority Christian groups and has closed some mosques connected with radical Islamism

            There are fewer than 2500 Jews left in Morocco today. On May 16, 2003, a series of suicide bombers attacked four Jewish targets in Casablanca. Prior to World War II, the Jewish population of Morocco reached 225,000. In 1965, Moroccan writer Said Ghallab described the attitude of his fellow Muslims toward their Jewish neighbors:

            “The worst insult that a Moroccan could possibly offer was to treat someone as a Jew….My childhood friends have remained anti-Jewish. They hide their virulent anti-Semitism by contending that the State of Israel was the creature of Western imperialism”

            There are fewer than 900 Jews left in Tunisia today. The last Kosher restaurant in Tunisia’s capital closed in November 2015, out of concern for the security of their patrons due to terrorist threats. After being warned by the Tunisian government, the owner shut down amid security threats against him and his establishment.

            The 5 Countries you’ve highlighted represent a total population of 213 MILLION people, with Jewish populations totaling some 36,900. That is 0.017% of the population. And THIS is what you use as an argument to represent that the handful of Jews still alive in Arab Countries are safe, sound, and happy to be there. The Jews in Iran are nothing less than prisoners. They are not permitted to leave.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Benny Morris: “There is not going to be peace in the present generation. There will not be a solution. We are doomed to live by the sword. I’m already fairly old, but for my children that is especially bleak. I don’t know if they will want to go on living in a place where there is no hope. Even if Israel is not destroyed, we won’t see a good, normal life here in the decades ahead.”

          • Lonny

            Benny Morris changes his mind every few months, racistCUNT. You are told that all the time.

          • proudzionist

            Benny Morris: “Remember another thing: the Arab people gained a large slice of the planet. Not thanks to its skills or its great virtues, but because it conquered and murdered and forced those it conquered to convert during many generations. But in the end the Arabs have 22 states. The Jewish people did not have even one state. There was no reason in the world why it should not have one state. Therefore, from my point of view, the need to establish this state in this place overcame the injustice that was done to the Palestinians by uprooting them…All told, if we take all the massacres and all the executions of 1948, we come to about 800 who were killed. In comparison to the massacres that were perpetrated in Bosnia, that’s peanuts. In comparison to the massacres the Russians perpetrated against the Germans at Stalingrad, that’s chicken feed. When you take into account that there was a bloody civil war here and that we lost an entire 1 percent of the population, you find that we behaved very well.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, the colonizing Ashkenazi is free of guilt because there were more genocide elsewhere … am wondering why Morris did not compare it to the ‘holocaust’.? You forget that the Ashkenazi is a white man colonizing a land of people of color, a foreigner.
            __
            Jabotinsky: “Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done?”

          • proudzionist

            You are clearly obsessed with the division of Jews into Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrachi and others. For the record, we Jews couldn’t care less about this obsession of yours. We are all Jews, and nothing else matters to us. And also for the record, some 50% of Jews living in Israel today are Mizrachi Jews (or, as you prefer “Arab Jews”), so it would be for you to explain why your hatred is for Israel, as opposed to the 50% of its Jews who are not “Arab Jews”.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Contemporary Jewry is comprised of ~13 million people, of whom 5.7 million reside in the United States and 4.7 million reside in Israel, with the remainder living throughout the world .
            Among the Jews of the United States,
            90% are of Ashkenazi origin.

            Among the Jews of Israel
            47% are of Ashkenazi,
            30% of Sephardic
            23% of Oriental origin”.

            Source: nature. com

          • proudzionist

            “As of 2005, over 50% of Israeli Jews are of at least partial Mizrahi ancestry”
            Sources:
            1. “Jews, Arabs, and Arab Jews: The Politics of Identity and Reproduction in Israel, Ducker, Clare Louise, Institute of Social Studies, The Hague, Netherlands
            2. “Jews of the Middle East”. Jewishvirtuallibrary dot] org Retrieved 2014-01-21.

          • proudzionist

            “She’s a Sabra, born and raised in Israel by parents who fled Iraq in the early 1950s. Arabic was their first language.

            He’s an American born Israeli, raised in Queens, N.Y., the son of an American-born Jewish mother and a father born in India. While his mother’s family was of Ashkenazi descent from Eastern Europe, his family followed his father’s Sephardic religious traditions. Indian food reigned in the kitchen.

            Yehuda Yaakov, Consul General of Israel to New England, and his wife Ofra Yaakov, Israel’s diplomatic couple in Boston since February, 2014, are part of the new face of Israel, a diverse population from many countries and nationalities.

            Today, about half of Israel’s population are of Eastern descent.”

            You might want to read this article to become better educated. After you do so (of course, you won’t), I’d like for you to tell me how you would categorize their children. Ashkenazi? Arab Jews? Other?

            You simply don’t seem to understand that there are virtually no “pure” People any more. As with other Peoples, we Jews have long ago become mixtures of various Jewish sects from various Jewish nationalities/races/colors and various Jewish genealogies. None of this matters much to us, but it seems to be an obsession of yours, as you seem to wish to disqualify every “Ashkenazi” Jew from Judaism and Israel. It simply isn’t going to work.

            Read more: boston [dot] forward [com] com/articles/188930/mizrahi-jews-the-new-faces-of-israel/#ixzz4OyCG5Aj2

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi marry other Ashkenazi. You story is just a few isolated cases where white Jews marry dark-skinned Jews. Why do you think that only the Ashkenazi have 44 genetic diseases and not Arab or African or Asian Jews? You can attempt to fiddle with the facts here and there, but genetic science is science and cannot be disputed.
            ____
            UCSF Medical Center -Because Ashkenazi married within their own ethnic group, these mutations increased in frequency over generations.
            US News & World Report -Crohn’s Disease: Jews of Eastern European descent are more likely to have the inflammatory bowel condition
            Feinsteininstitute – Researchers Discover Five Genetic Variations Associated with Crohn’s Disease in Ashkenazi Jews
            Jewishmag – Common Genetic Diseases in the Ashkenazi Jewish Population
            John Hopkins Medicine – increased risk of pancreatic cancer in individuals of Ashkenazi Jewish descent has a genetic basis.
            Kaizer Permanente – What Are Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Diseases?
            Mountsinai – Ashkenazi Jewish individuals are expected to be identified as carriers of at least one of the 38 diseases
            progenity – 1 in 4 Ashkenazi Jews carries a genetic disorder
            The Jewish Forward – Genetic Diseases Affecting Ashkenazi Jews
            US News & World Report – Crohn’s Disease: Jews of Eastern European descent are more likely to have the inflammatory bowel condition
            Washington – Carrier Testing for Individuals with Ashkenazi Jewish background

          • proudzionist

            Don’t be ridiculous. Such “mixed” Jewish marriages and offspring are the new norm They are not the exception. As for genetic diseases, every single group of People on the planet have predilections for certain genetic diseases. For Mizrachi/Sephardi Jews, these include:

            Alpha-Thalassemia
            Ataxia Telangiectasia
            Beta-Thalassemia (B-T)
            Corticosterone Methyloxidase Type II Deficiency
            Costeff Optic Atrophy (also known as Type III 3-methylglutaconic Aciduria)
            Cystic Fibrosis
            Familial Mediterranean Fever
            Familial Tumoral Calcinosis
            Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydogenase Deficiency (G6PD)
            Hereditary Inclusion Body Myopathy (HIBM)/GNE Myopathy
            Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy Type 2B
            Metachromatic Leukodystrophy
            Polyglandular Syndrome
            Pseudocholinesterase Deficiency
            Spinal Muscular Atrophy
            Wolman Disease

            What seems to go completely over your head, or in one and out the other, in all of these threads, is that your obsession with discounting Ashkenazi Jews from the rest of Jewry and Israel is entirely useless (and, in my opinion, pointless). I mean, what is it that you hope to accomplish? Do you think you’ll convince anyone that Ashkenazi Jews are not really Jews? Or that they have no genetic ties to the Middle East? Perhaps you’d like to expand your obsession to the Khazar Jew theories as well? For what possible outcome do you obsess over Ashkenazi Jews? And why is it that any/every effort to point out the fully half of Arabs in “Palestine” during 1948 were immigrants from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other Arab lands, discounting any ridiculous claim of “indigenous” status?

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- I find it disgusting for white Europeans to claim ancestry in the ME. It is laughable! I look at the Ashkenazi and they are indistinguishable from the people of European origin, because they are of European origin.

            2- There are no ‘Mizrahi’ diseases since the Yemeni Jew is genetically Yemeni. If the Yemeni Jew has a genetic diseases, then they need to test the people of his neighborhood and see if it affects only Yemeni Jews. I am here to tell you that it isimpossible. You see, when testing the Ashkenazi, they tested Iraq Jews and other Arab Jews alongside the Euro-Jews to see if those diseases were particular to the Ashkenazi and all tests confirmed that the Arab Jews were free of the Ashkenazi diseases.

            3- Most definitely, the German Jew has as much genetic ties the ME as the German Christians, no more and no less.

            4- It is the Ashkenazi who is the master race in Palestine over all other races of people. And it was the Ashkenazi who colonized Palestine.

          • proudzionist

            1. You may find it disgusting all you like, but the science doesn’t lie. There is not a single scientific study published on Ashkenazi Jewish DNA that discounts their lineage to the Middle East. Ashkenazi Jews are only “of European origin” to 2,000 or so years ago. That’s when the great diaspora from the Middle East occurred.

            2. You don’t know what you’re talking about. There are Ashkenazi Jewish predilections for various diseases, some of which are shared with European non-Jews and others (e.g. Tay Sachs) that are not. Similarly, there are a whole host (perhaps even greater in number) of Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews predilections for other diseases, some of which are shared with African and Western European non-Jews, and others that are not.

            www [dot] cags [dot] org [dot] ae/cbc02ga [dot] pdf (Wow, you Yemeni have an extraordinary number of genetic disease predilections, don’t you?)

            3. German non-Jews do not share the Tay Sachs predilection with German Jews, and German Jews have genetic ties to Middle East Jews. Read the scientific literature.

            4. You can than your Arab brothers/sisters for the fact that 50% of Israeli Jews today are Mizrachi Jews (or, as you like to say, “Arab Jews”). In the next lifetime, perhaps you’ll be kinder to the Jews among you, rather than to force their exile.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Get this: Genetic scientists performed tests to see if Arab Jews also suffer from the same genetic diseases that the Ashkenazis suffer from. The test results? They don’t. And the reason is very simple: there is no genetic connection between the European and the Arab Jews, none! Are you going to deny genetic science? 40+ Ashkenazi genetic disease that the Arab Jews do not have does prove beyond any doubt that Ashkenazi European Jews have no genetic connection to the Jews of the M/E. NONE!
            ___
            1- “The purpose of this study was to determine the frequency of blmAsh mutation carriers in a randomly sampled Ashkenazi Jewish population in Israel. The initial study group included 1,613 Ashkenazi Jews who were referred for routine DNA screening tests (cystic fibrosis, Gaucher, Canavan, fragile X). None had a family history of BS. A group of 552 non-Ashkenazi Jews served as controls. Mutation analysis was performed by PCR amplification All positive carriers were confirmed by direct sequencing. Sixteen blmAsh carriers were detected among 1,613 Ashkenazi Jews (1 in 101), compared to none among 552 non-Ashkenazi individuals.”(source: ADGenetic Institute, Sourasky Medical Center, Tel Aviv, Israel)

            2- We tested 3,104 Jewish individuals, primarily of Ashkenazi descent, for the two most common FAC mutations, IVS4 and 322delG. Thirty-five IVS4 carriers were identified, for a carrier frequency of 1 in 89. To determine if the IVS4 mutation was confined to the Ashkenazi Jewish population, we tested 563 Iraqi Jews for IVS4, and no carriers were found. Because the IVS4 mutation has only been found on chromosomes of Ashkenazi Jewish origin (Source: Laboratory of Human Genetics and Hematology, Rockefeller University, New York, NY 10021-6399, USA)

          • proudzionist

            “Genetic scientists performed tests to see if Arab Jews also suffer from the same genetic diseases that the Ashkenazis suffer from. The test results? They don’t. And the reason is very simple: there is no genetic connection between the European and the Arab Jews, none!”

            Well, that’s all very interesting. But this comment poses two rather significant problems for you. First, neither of us has, thus far, claimed that Ashkenazi Jews and Mizrachi Jews share the same disease predilections. Second, is your reasoning. For, if your basis is that “there is no genetic connection between the European and the Arab Jews”, then this would seem to contradict your equation of “Ashkenazi = European”, since Ashkenazi Jews also share no genetic predispositions to European non-Jews. In other words, if you make a distinction (based on genetic predispositions to diseases) between Ashkenazi and Mizrachi Jews, then you must also make a distinction between Ashkenazi Jews and European non-Jews.

            As to your issue #1, this too would appear to destroy your contention that “Ashkenazi = European”. While Ashkenazi Jews clearly show genetic predispositions to Bloom Syndrome (BS) and Fanconi Anemia (FA), European non-Jews do not. If there is no difference between Ashkenazi Jews and Europeans, how would you account for the difference? In other words, what is different about European Jewish DNA, as compared to European non-Jewish DNA?

            Now my turn:

            1.The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people.
            Behar DM1, Yunusbayev B, Metspalu M, Metspalu E, Rosset S, Parik J, Rootsi S, Chaubey G, Kutuev I, Yudkovsky G, Khusnutdinova EK, Balanovsky O, Semino O, Pereira L, Comas D, Gurwitz D, Bonne-Tamir B, Parfitt T, Hammer MF, Skorecki K, Villems R.
            Author information

            Abstract
            Contemporary Jews comprise an aggregate of ethno-religious communities whose worldwide members identify with each other through various shared religious, historical and cultural traditions. Historical evidence suggests common origins in the Middle East, followed by migrations leading to the establishment of communities of Jews in Europe, Africa and Asia, in what is termed the Jewish Diaspora. This complex demographic history imposes special challenges in attempting to address the genetic structure of the Jewish people. Although many genetic studies have shed light on Jewish origins and on diseases prevalent among Jewish communities, including studies focusing on uniparentally and biparentally inherited markers, genome-wide patterns of variation across the vast geographic span of Jewish Diaspora communities and their respective neighbours have yet to be addressed. Here we use high-density bead arrays to genotype individuals from 14 Jewish Diaspora communities and compare these patterns of genome-wide diversity with those from 69 Old World non-Jewish populations, of which 25 have not previously been reported. These samples were carefully chosen to provide comprehensive comparisons between Jewish and non-Jewish populations in the Diaspora, as well as with non-Jewish populations from the Middle East and north Africa. Principal component and structure-like analyses identify previously unrecognized genetic substructure within the Middle East. Most Jewish samples form a remarkably tight subcluster that overlies Druze and Cypriot samples but not samples from other Levantine populations or paired Diaspora host populations. In contrast, Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) and Indian Jews (Bene Israel and Cochini) cluster with neighbouring autochthonous populations in Ethiopia and western India, respectively, despite a clear paternal link between the Bene Israel and the Levant. These results cast light on the variegated genetic architecture of the Middle East, and trace the origins of most Jewish Diaspora communities to the Levant.

            [Nature. 2010 Jul 8;466(7303):238-42. doi: 10.1038/nature09103. Epub 2010 Jun 9.]

            2.Genomic microsatellites identify shared Jewish ancestry intermediate between Middle Eastern and European populations.
            Kopelman NM1, Stone L, Wang C, Gefel D, Feldman MW, Hillel J, Rosenberg NA.
            Author information

            Abstract
            BACKGROUND:
            Genetic studies have often produced conflicting results on the question of whether distant Jewish populations in different geographic locations share greater genetic similarity to each other or instead, to nearby non-Jewish populations. We perform a genome-wide population-genetic study of Jewish populations, analyzing 678 autosomal microsatellite loci in 78 individuals from four Jewish groups together with similar data on 321 individuals from 12 non-Jewish Middle Eastern and European populations.
            RESULTS:
            We find that the Jewish populations show a high level of genetic similarity to each other, clustering together in several types of analysis of population structure. Further, Bayesian clustering, neighbor-joining trees, and multidimensional scaling place the Jewish populations as intermediate between the non-Jewish Middle Eastern and European populations.
            CONCLUSION:
            These results support the view that the Jewish populations largely share a common Middle Eastern ancestry and that over their history they have undergone varying degrees of admixture with non-Jewish populations of European descent.

            [BMC Genet. 2009 Dec 8;10:80. doi: 10.1186/1471-2156-10-80.]

          • proudzionist

            ” I look at the Ashkenazi and they are indistinguishable from the people of European origin, because they are of European origin.”

            Sometimes I just can’t get over your ignorance (not to mention racism). The absurd degree of importance that you attribute to “looks” is quite amazing. Do you have no understanding, or even imagination, of what effects 2000 years in a particular geographic location have on outward appearances? And is there no consideration for the effects of intra-religious and inter-religious unions, and genetic mutations over 2000 years have on outward appearances? Do you truly believe that your great (x50) grandchildren, 2000 years from now, possibly living in Polynesia for 25 of those generations, are going to look exactly like you, in terms of color, hair texture, facial bone structure, etc,? How can you be so clueless?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore:

            Nigerian Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Nigerian ?
            Yemeni Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Yemeni ?
            Chinese Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Chinese ?
            Uganan Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Uganan ?
            European Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into European ?
            Indian Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Indian ?
            Nicaraguan Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Nicaraguan ?
            Ethiopian Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Ethiopian ?
            Japanese Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Japanese ?
            Zimbabwean Jew went to Nigeria and morphed into Zimbabwean ?

          • proudzionist

            They don’t. What ever gave you the idea that they do? As an example, approximately 100,000 Ethiopian (Black) Jews have immigrated to Israel during the past 35 years. Indeed, and a result, there are almost no Jews left in Ethiopia.

            Here’s a better question. Why do the Arab/Muslim Countries of the world, most of which are sparsely populated, refuse to take in Syrian or African-Muslim refugees fleeing wars and political oppression? Why do Sunni, Shia and Kurdish Muslims despise and want to kiII each other? Why can’t Muslims get along with themselves or each other?

          • Helen4Yemen

            It took 32 years for the Ashkenazi to bring in Ethiopian Jews. Why did it take so long? Ashkenzi was desperately looking around for those made in his image to populate the land. Don’t you think that 32 years is a long time for the Ethiopian Jews to wait whereas any white Jew was not only admitted quickly but was highly sought. The more blond the hair and the bluer the eyes the better. Those Ashkenazi who manage to steal Palestine were ideological brothers of Hitler. Lest we forget, the Ethiopian Jews were brought only to avoid embarrassment when they demonstrated in huge numbers and invited the int’l media. Otherwise, there would have been no Ethiopian Jews or any other African Jews admitted.

            __________
            It took 32 years for the Ashkenazis from Europe to bring in Ethiopian Jews, right? Why did it take so long? Ashkenazi was desperately looking around the globe for those made in his image to populate the land. Don’t you think that 32 years is a long time for the Ethiopian Jews to wait whereas any white Jew was not only admitted quickly but was highly sought? The more blond the hair and the bluer the eyes, the better. Those Ashkenazis who managed to steal Palestine were ideological brothers of Hitler. Lest we forget, the Ethiopian Jews were brought only to avoid embarrassment when they demonstrated in huge numbers in Ethiopia and invited the int’l media to shed light to their dilemma that they were refused entry into Palestine. It did not take long for Ashkenazis to bring in a few of them at a time to avoid world condemnation about their repulsive racism. Otherwise, there would have been no Ethiopian Jews or any other African Jews admitted. NONE!

            Year _______ Ethiopian _______ Total arrivals
            1948–1951 _______ 10 _______ 687,624
            1952–1960 _______ 59 _______ 297,138
            1961–197 _______ 198 _______ 427,828
            1972–1979 _______ 306 _______ 267,580
            1980–1989 _______ 16,965 _______ 153,833
            1990–1999 _______ 39,651 _______ 956,319
            2000–2004 _______ 14,859 _______ 181,505
            2005-2009 _______ 12,586 _______ 86,855
            2010-2013 _______ 7,200 _______ 67,050

            Source: Wikipedia

          • proudzionist

            Prior to the 1970’s, there was no push by Ethiopian Jews to immigrate to Israel. When this push began, there was a brief period characterized by opposing opinions about the legitimacy of these people’s affiliation with the Jewish People. The conflict was solved rather quickly, and immigration has been unfettered since then.

            BTW, thanks for avoiding every one of my questions regarding your labeling “Palestinians” as “indigenous”, and regarding refusal of Arab/Muslim countries to accept immigration of Syrian and African-Muslim refugees. Your avoidance speaks volumes. You ask a whole lot of questions, but you answer very few. Oh, and the Ethiopian Jews never sought immigration to “Palestine” (a fictitious place), only to Israel.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Tired of your LIES, LIES, LIES!

            “Prior to the 1970’s, there was no push by Ethiopian Jews to immigrate to Israel.”

            But was there a pull? The Ashkenazi was desperate for Jews to come to Palestine – and he still is desperate – but the color black was not what he was looking for.

            __
            Jeff Blankfort : “They wanted white Jews in Israel. They did not care whether they were Jews or not. They are so hypocritical, so cynical, about a third of the Russian Jews who came there were not Jews at all. They said they were Jews, they wanted a white population, because the European Ashkenazi are essentially racist against people of dark skin.”

          • proudzionist

            So, then, you won’t answer any of my questions? Gee, I wonder why.

            You mean Jeff Blankfort, the pro-Palestinian activist? Oh, how utterly objective of you. Where’s your next quote from, Mein Kampf? Shall I prepare myself for the barrage of photos from your rolodex-at-the-ready now?

            P.S. Isn’t this about the time you threaten to block me?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why do the European Zionist thugs invade and destroy other people’s countries?

          • proudzionist

            “Zionist thugs”? Is that the language you resort to when you’ve lost the factual debate?

            Do you plan on answering any of MY questions, or should I just accept the fact that, since you’re an Arab, you feel that you must control me?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are going to claim that floods of atrocities like these are done by other than thugs?

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 500 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

            You have no valid questions. You Zionists are thugs from Europe with no right to be in Palestine.

            How do you excuse the vile evil of your genocidal country stealing?

            You can’t answer that because you are guilty thugs.

          • proudzionist

            You forgot to include extinction of the dinosaurs, global warming, and cancer.

            Time for you to bury’em hatchet, smok’em peacepipe, and GFY, Pocahontas.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The best a conscience bereft thug like you can do is mock. Your crimes of such horrid nature that it is impossible for to present a serious defense, just like your soul brother Nazis at Nuremberg.

          • proudzionist

            Mocking is all you deserve. At least Helen puts forth arguments. You’ve got nothing. You’re just shooting blanks.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Hey, you mock because you cannot defend your atrocities. You are just thugs of no value.

          • proudzionist

            You should take your act on the road, Chief. You’re a riot.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, I am still showing what an incorrigible thug you have to be to be a Zionist.

          • proudzionist

            Youch.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            From here on monosyllables are all you’re permitted, until you answer why you are a genocidal country-stealing thug.

          • proudzionist

            Buurp. This Mexican food makes me gassy. Do you experience the same thing?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Too many syllables, but nowhere as stupid as the ones you usually combine.

          • proudzionist

            Huh??

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You Zionists are international criminals assaulting all around you. Of course you should be controlled. You should be tried in an international court, like you soul brother Nazis were tried at Nuremberg.

          • proudzionist

            Good luck with that. Let us know when your coming. We’ll keep the lights on for ya.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            See? You cannot defend yourself with other the bully’s taunt.

          • proudzionist

            ROFLMFAO!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Like a thug.

          • proudzionist

            Ouch.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Like a thug again.

          • proudzionist

            Oooch.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I will let you continue squirming by yourself now.

            But everyone knows now how easy it is to reduce you monosyllables.

            You are nothing.

          • proudzionist

            For someone who is nothing, I sure do command a lot of your attention.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Too many syllables. Learn to count.

          • proudzionist

            Huh?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why do the Ashkenazi invaders from Europe throw out the Ethiopians blood?

          • proudzionist

            They don’t?

            Do you plan on answering any of MY questions, or should I just accept the fact that, since you’re an Arab, you feel that you must control me?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Because you questions are stupid distractions from the real question of what right the thug Ashkenazi Zionists have doing genocidal thuggery in someone else’s country.

          • proudzionist

            YAAWwwnnnn.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            We already know that you are psychopathic thug bereft of conscience, who cannot defend himself.

          • proudzionist

            I’m crushed. How will I go on?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Spoken like criminal trash.

          • proudzionist

            Help me. I’m dying. Help me.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You can’t be helped. You are a committed thug.

          • proudzionist

            Waaaah. Waaah. Mommy, Pocahontas called me a bad name.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I’m not an Arab. Unlike a genocidal thug like you, I have a conscience.

            All criminals need to be controlled. You are an unrepentant genocidal thugs who needs to be imprisoned at Guantanamo.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why do the European Ashkenazi thugs always make friends with the thugs among the Arabs, that push hatred like the Zionist thugs do?

          • proudzionist

            Yawn.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Best you can do. Your conduct is indefensible.

          • proudzionist

            Did you say something?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I am talking to a thug.

          • proudzionist

            Why would you want to do that? Nothing else going in in the teepee?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            See? i have reduced you and your thuggery to impotent grunts.

          • proudzionist

            That tickles.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Now he wiggles. So easy to reduce this thug to nothing!

          • proudzionist

            Wiggle

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Those questions are distractions from the real question: What made you so utter evil like the Nazis to do genocidal country stealing?

          • proudzionist

            Get back in your tee pee, Chief. Any analogy between the Na zis and Israel isn’t worthy of a response.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Of course you claim that, because that comparison hits you right between the eyes. You are murderous, terror flinging, thug invaders of another people’s country. You are exactly like the Nazis, and you know it. That is why you duck so furiously and so vainly. Anybody can open books or search on the Internet and see that you inundate others with atrocities just like the Nazis did.

          • proudzionist

            Are these the kind of sweet nothings you whisper in your mother’s ear while your pounding her?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So now we are learning how you became such a thug. Tell us more about your home life.

          • proudzionist

            What positions does she like?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you fvq your mother? Yuck! You poor thing!

          • proudzionist

            Just for fun, here’s a link to a paper outlining the 752 genetic disorders in Arab Populations.

            www [dot] cags [dot] org [dot] ae/cbc02ga [dot] pdf

          • Helen4Yemen

            If there are genetic diseases in the Arab population, it also means that the Arabs Jews also have those Arab genetic diseases because Arab Jews are Arab.

          • proudzionist

            This is not entirely wrong (a rarity for you, Helen). Don’t forget, though, Mizrachi Jews (what you erroneously refer to as “Arab Jews”) have lived in the Middle East for 5,000 years. It stands to reason, therefore, that their genetic predispositions to various diseases are more similar to the non-Jewish populations with whom they’ve lived for all this time. Ashkenazi-Jewish genetic predispositions are a bit more diverse, in that these People haven’t lived in the Middle East for 2,000 years (30-40 generations). Furthermore, European Jews have done a lot of moving around within the European continent during these 2,000 years, whereas the Jews of each Arab country tended to stay in that country for many generations.

            Of course, NONE of this precludes the fact that that the Jewish People throughout Europe, Africa and Asia (the diaspora) share a genome-wide structure that traces the origins of most Jewish Diaspora communities to the Levant.

            www [dot] ncbi [dot] nlm [dot] nih [dot] gov/pubmed/20531471

            P.S. Didn’t you block me several weeks ago (along with everyone else with whom you disagree)?

            P.P.S. I believe this will now be the 5th time today that I’ve asked you why you refer to the 1948 Arab “Palestinians” as “indigenous”, when fully half of them immigrated to the region from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other Arab lands during the preceding 50 years? Further avoidance of answering this question will be taken as an admission of the fact that the use of the word “indigenous”, when referring to the Palestinians, is utter nonsense.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I looked at it, and I was right in that the 752 genetic disorders are not shared among all Arabs. For example, Yemen had 19 genetic diseases and 7 of them were shared with other countries, meaning that the Yemenis have 12 disorders. The Yemenis are 27 million, compare that to 44 genetic diseases among only 6 million Ashkenazi.

            Here are a few examples for Yemen:

            20. 109150 Machado-Joseph Disease Yemen
            23. 110700 Blood Group–Duffy System Yemen
            27. 113705 Breast Cancer 1 Gene Morocco, Iraq, Yemen
            68. 141850 Hemoglobin–Alpha Locus 2 Algeria, Tunisia, Iraq,
            86. 148820 Waardenburg Syndrome, Type III Egypt, Yemen
            103. 160900 Dystrophia Myotonica 1 Morocco, Egypt, Yemen

            I have no idea how the peoples of Morocco, Egypt, Yemen are connected.

            And the Yemenis or Iraqis have no problem saying they have genetic links with others. The Ashkenazi genetic diseases are strictly Ashkenazi only diseases.
            That is the difference. Arab Jews do not share Ashkenazi genetic diseases.

          • proudzionist

            Actually, there were 43 genetic diseases cited for Yemen, not 19. And 19 of these diseases (not 12) were exclusive to Yemen. And this is for a Country of barely 200,000 square miles in area, as opposed to Europe, which is nearly 4 million square miles in area. So, I’m not sure what your point is, but I’m fairly certain it’s immaterial.

            “And the Yemenis or Iraqis have no problem saying they have genetic links with others. The Ashkenazi genetic diseases are strictly Ashkenazi only diseases.
            That is the difference. Arab Jews do not share Ashkenazi genetic diseases.”

            And Ashkenazi Jews have no problem acknowledging that they have genetic predilections to diseases not shared by Mizrachi Jews. But they also have such predilections that are not shared with European non-Jews. Furthermore, as studies have shown, there is a genome-wide structure shared by ALL European, African and Asian Jews that links them to the Levant.

            www [dot] ncbi [dot] nlm [dot] nih [dot] gov/pubmed/20531471

          • Helen4Yemen

            “there is a genome-wide structure shared by ALL European, African and Asian Jews that links them to the Levant”

            1- Total and complete nonsense. I have to feel sorry for a people that yearns to belong to another people that does not want to belong to it. It is like if Nigerians were to insist that they have common genetic links with the people of Norway. Nonsense! Don’t shame yourselves. You did not morph to look like the Europeans.

            2-Yes, I made a mistake on the Yemen genetic diseases. Please understand that the Yemeni Jews being Yemenis will also have the same diseases as the rest of the Yemenis.

            3- What have size of Area got to do with the genetic diseases. The reason the Ashkenazi have common genetic diseases is because they are the same people who used to be known as Khazars.

            4- The French may have their own group of genetic diseases different from Russians. Does it mean they are not both Europeans.

            5- You need to stop looking towards a land inhavited by dark skinned folks for your ancestry, look towards a region inhabited by people that look like you: Europeans.

          • proudzionist

            1. Hey, don’t bark at me. It was YOU who stated (below) that “genetic science is science and cannot be disputed.” If you’ve got a problem with my statement, take it up with the authors of the paper (Behar DM1, Yunusbayev B, Metspalu M, Metspalu E, Rosset S, Parik J, Rootsi S, Chaubey G, Kutuev I, Yudkovsky G, Khusnutdinova EK, Balanovsky O, Semino O, Pereira L, Comas D, Gurwitz D, Bonne-Tamir B, Parfitt T, Hammer MF, Skorecki K, Villems R.)

            2. This wasn’t your only mistake, but I forgive you. As for the rest of your statement, I’ve already acknowledged that Yemeni Jews share disease predilections with Yemeni non-Jews. What YOU should acknowledge is that Ashkenazi Jews DO NOT share the same genitive predilections with European non-Jews. And for very good reason, as I previously explained.

            3. What area has to do with genetic disease is as follows. You attempted to make the (erroneous) point that Yemenis were far more ‘healthy’ than Ashenazi Jews, since 27 million Yemenis had fewer genetic diseases than 13.5 Ashkenazi Jews. Notwithstanding the fact that you erred about the number of Yemeni genetic diseases, your point was bogus since Ashkenazi Jews were spread out among a dozen (or more) nations spanning 4 million square miles, whereas Yemeni diseases were contained in a mere 200,000 square miles. Hence, I wouldn’t go about boasting about any superior Yemeni genetics if I were you.

            4. Yes, but French Jews and French non-Jews do not necessarily share the same genetic disease predilections. And for good reason.

            5. I don’t consider my ancestral homeland on the basis of skin color. Sorry that you are so obsessed with skin color (i.e. racist). Jews come in all colors. It makes no difference to me whether you accept or deny this. The scientific literature has solved the issue for us. The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people, be they in the European diaspora, African diaspora or Asian diaspora is unquestionably and indisputably linked to the Levant.

            www [dot] ncbi [dot] nlm [dot] nih [dot] gov/pubmed/20531471

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- ” Hey, don’t bark at me. “ What? When did I do that?

            2- ” This wasn’t your only mistake, but I forgive you. “ Show me my other mistakes.

            3- ” Yemeni Jews share disease predilections with Yemeni non-Jews. What YOU should acknowledge is that Ashkenazi Jews DO NOT share the same genitive predilections with European non-Jews. since Ashkenazi Jews were spread out among a dozen (or more) nations spanning 4 million square miles, whereas Yemeni diseases were contained in a mere 200,000 square miles. Hence, I wouldn’t go about boasting about any superior Yemeni genetics if I were you. “ I would expect the The Yemenis and other Arabs to have many genetic diseaes due to the custom of marrying their cousins. It is for the same reason that Ashkenazi have many genetic disorders because they only breed among other Ashkenazi. About the square meters, you should have added all of America, Canada, South America, Australia, and so on where the Ashkenazis are in large numbers. If you plant the same kind of tomato seed in Africa or Asia or Europe, you will get the same type of tomatoe yield, and by the same token, no matter where the Ashkenazis are breeding, the new crop will have the same genetic diseaes inherited from the parent.

            4- ” Yes, but French Jews and French non-Jews do not necessarily share the same genetic disease predilections. And for good reason. “
            The Ashkenazi share Tay Sacks with French Canadian/Cajun (Europeans) at the same rate and Cystic Fibrosis with Caucasians at the same rate. There are no Arab Jews that suffer Ashkenazi diseases, only other Europeans.

            Tay Sachs
            1 in 30 Ashkenazi
            1 in 30
            1 in 300 other ancestries
            Canavan Disease
            1 in 36 Ashkenazi
            1 in 360 other ancestries
            Cystic Fibrosis
            1 in 29 Ashkenazi
            1 in 29 Caucasians
            1 in 46 Hispanics
            1 in 60-65 African Americans
            1 in 90 Asians
            https://genetics. emory .edu/documents/resources/Emory_Human_Genetics_Ashkenazi_Jewish_Comprehensive_Carrier_Screening. pdf

            5- ” I don’t consider my ancestral homeland on the basis of skin color. “ You want the world to make an exception for you that when they see you in Palestine, they recognize your European features as they recognize other Europeans’ features. For white Europeans to claim to be from Palestine is to invite ridicule, the same ridicule if a Nigerian were to claim to be from Norway. Learn to respect yourselves and stop your delusion.

            6- ” The scientific literature has solved the issue for us. The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people, be they in the European diaspora, African diaspora or Asian diaspora is unquestionably and indisputably linked to the Levant. “ Total nonsense! African Jews happen to be African and Arab Jews are Arab as Chinese Jews are Chinese. You need to stop inviting others to ridicule your silly claim.

          • proudzionist

            So, then, still no answers to my questions?

          • Helen4Yemen

            I answer all questions! What are your questions?
            Getting tired of your hasbara.

          • proudzionist

            How is that you refer to the Arab Palestinians of 1948 as “indigenous”, when recorded history shows that a full 50% of them had immigrated to the region from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other lands during the preceding 50 years? How is it that THEY are more “indigenous” than the Jews who immigrated to the same region during the same 50 years?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Where is your source? Show evidence, please?

            Benny Morris: T”he vast majority of Arabs who live in Palestine originated in Palestine, ‘originated’ meaning they have been living in Palestine for hundreds of years.”

            https://www.*youtube.*com/watch?v=v-Ekju_IyaI

          • proudzionist

            “As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.
            This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible.”

            -Jewish Virtual Library

            “The above-average population growth of the Arab villages around the city of Jerusalem, with its Jewish majority, continued until the end of the mandatory period. This must have been due—as elsewhere in Palestine under similar conditions—to in-migrants attracted by economic opportunities, and to the beneficial effects of improved health services in reducing mortality—just as happened in other parts of Palestine around cities with a large Jewish population sector”

            [U.O. Schmelz, “Population Characteristics of Jerusalem and Hebron Regions According to Ottoman Census of 1905,” in Gar G. Gilbar, ed., Ottoman Palestine: 1800-1914 (Leiden: Brill, 1990), pp. 32-3.]

            “Each piece of the demographic puzzle by itself may reveal no identifiable picture. But given a multiplicity of such pieces, an image does begin to appear. The Royal Institute for International Affairs adds another piece. Commenting on the growth of the Palestinian population during the decades of the 1920s and 1930s it reports: “The number of Arabs who have entered Palestine illegally from Syria and Transjordan is unknown. But probably considerable.”

            [Great Britain and Palestine, 1915-1945, Information Paper no. 20, 3d ed. (London: Royal Institute for International Affairs, 1946), p. 64]

            “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Trans-Jordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.”

            [.S. Jarvis, governor of the Sinai from 1923-36, Palestine,” United Empire (London), 28 (1937): 633.
            ]

          • Helen4Yemen

            Palestine population
            Year — Non-Jews — Jews — % Non-Jew/Jew
            1851 — 327,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
            1861 — 356,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
            1881 — 422,000 — 25,000 — 95/5
            1895 — 522,000 — 47,000 — 92/8
            1914 — 675,000 — 85,000 — 87/13
            1919 — 500,000 — 65,000 — 87/13
            1922 — 723,000 — 93,000 — 89/11
            1924 — 765,000 — 113,000 — 87/13
            1931 — 881,000 — 175,000 — 83/17
            1936 — 1,003,000 — 370,000 — 73/27
            1940 — 1,113,000 — 467,000 — 70/30
            1945 — 1,295,000 — 564,000 — 70/30
            1948 — 1,319,000 — 650,000 — 67/33

            Note:

            – The Jews increased from 13,000 in 1851 to 650,000 in 1948 – which is they multiplied by 50 times

            – The non-Jews grew from 327,000 to 1,319,000 in the same period, which is they multiplied by 4 times.

            – How is it that ‘the Jews’ grew by 50 times vs 4 times for non-Jews?

          • proudzionist

            So I guess we’ve come full circle, huh? Is this the first comment in your propaganda rolodex? You already posted this about 8 hours ago, and I responded to it accordingly.

            Guess you’re out of ammo, eh Helen? Don’t bother posting the next 100 comments. Just go back in the thread to read my answers. It’ll save a lot of time.

          • proudzionist

            Sorry, make that 21 hours ago. Same cut/pasted junk. It’s all you’ve got, isn’t it?

          • Helen4Yemen

            One problem the Ashkenazi faces when he claim to be indigenous: he looks like the brother of George Bush. Haha!

          • proudzionist

            Again with “looks”? Boring.

          • proudzionist

            Nature. 2010 Jul 8;466(7303):238-42. doi: 10.1038/nature09103. Epub 2010 Jun 9.
            The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people.
            Behar DM1, Yunusbayev B, Metspalu M, Metspalu E, Rosset S, Parik J, Rootsi S, Chaubey G, Kutuev I, Yudkovsky G, Khusnutdinova EK, Balanovsky O, Semino O, Pereira L, Comas D, Gurwitz D, Bonne-Tamir B, Parfitt T, Hammer MF, Skorecki K, Villems R.
            Author information

            1Molecular Medicine Laboratory, Rambam Health Care Campus, Haifa 31096, Israel. behardm@usernet.com
            Abstract
            Contemporary Jews comprise an aggregate of ethno-religious communities whose worldwide members identify with each other through various shared religious, historical and cultural traditions. Historical evidence suggests common origins in the Middle East, followed by migrations leading to the establishment of communities of Jews in Europe, Africa and Asia, in what is termed the Jewish Diaspora. This complex demographic history imposes special challenges in attempting to address the genetic structure of the Jewish people. Although many genetic studies have shed light on Jewish origins and on diseases prevalent among Jewish communities, including studies focusing on uniparentally and biparentally inherited markers, genome-wide patterns of variation across the vast geographic span of Jewish Diaspora communities and their respective neighbours have yet to be addressed. Here we use high-density bead arrays to genotype individuals from 14 Jewish Diaspora communities and compare these patterns of genome-wide diversity with those from 69 Old World non-Jewish populations, of which 25 have not previously been reported. These samples were carefully chosen to provide comprehensive comparisons between Jewish and non-Jewish populations in the Diaspora, as well as with non-Jewish populations from the Middle East and north Africa. Principal component and structure-like analyses identify previously unrecognized genetic substructure within the Middle East. Most Jewish samples form a remarkably tight subcluster that overlies Druze and Cypriot samples but not samples from other Levantine populations or paired Diaspora host populations. In contrast, Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) and Indian Jews (Bene Israel and Cochini) cluster with neighbouring autochthonous populations in Ethiopia and western India, respectively, despite a clear paternal link between the Bene Israel and the Levant. These results cast light on the variegated genetic architecture of the Middle East, and trace the origins of most Jewish Diaspora communities to the Levant.
            PMID: 20531471 DOI: 10.1038/nature09103

            Does this clear things up for you. If not, take it up with the authors. I’m sure they’ll get a kick out your argument about “looks”.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Listen: If you post very long comments, I just skip them as I have done to this one. I only read the first line:
            “The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people.”

            Jewish people just like Muslim people and Christian people.
            Think about it, if the white Jew considers the black Jew to be part of his ‘tribe’, do you think they would be inject the black women to stop them from having black babies? Think about it. The black birth rate of the injection fell by 50% in just one decade. Think, think, think

          • proudzionist

            Yes, I can see you have a limited attention span. Yet you don’t hesitate to post unduly lengthy comments (already in your ‘rolodex’).

            Still no answers to my previous questions?

          • proudzionist

            Try this one fro the American Journal of Human Genetics (2010 Jun 11;86(6):850-9):

            Abstract
            For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

            Again, please contact the authors, and let them know about how your observations of outward appearance trump any genetics testing.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Which of these 3 Jews is Semitic?

            a) the one on the left
            b) the one in the middle
            c) the one in the center
            d) all of them
            e) none of them

            https://worldpeace365.*files.wordpress.*com/2016/02/compare109.*png?w=1496

            (remove *)

          • proudzionist

            d. All of them. (By the way, you DO realize that “Semitic” is a reference to language, right?)

            Why do the Arab/Muslim Countries of the world, most of which are sparsely populated, refuse to take in Syrian or African-Muslim refugees fleeing wars and political oppression? Why do Sunni, Shia and Kurdish Muslims despise and want to kiII each other? Why can’t Muslims get along with non-Muslims or each other?

          • Helen4Yemen

            OFF TOPIC

          • proudzionist

            You mean like skin color? Yes, I agree entirely.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Next time you get off topic, I will just reply by
            OFF TOPIC!

          • proudzionist

            Any every time you talk about “skin color”, I will just reply OFF TOPIC!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Here is a test for the European Jews. Look in the mirror, who is staring back?
            Don’t be shy. Just answer the question —

            a) Chinese
            b) M/E
            c) European
            d) African
            e) Japanese

            What is your answer?

          • proudzionist

            F. Jew (Same answer as the last 500 times you asked this question)

            So, then, your previous comment about “science” was just BS, right? In your mind, all that matters are “looks”. To heII with genetics testing; It’s all about “looks”. Very mature. You should consider writing a paper, and submitted for publication to the Journal of Human Genetics. Who knows, you might turn the whole scientific world on its face?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ashkenazi: love the European skin that you were born wrapped around with

            You Are Beautiful As You Are

            There was once a crow who did not like his feathers.

            “I wish I were a peacock!” he would say.

            “You are beautiful as you are!” the other crows insisted.

            “How plain and dull you seem to me!” he’d complain, and fly off to admire peacocks.

            The peacocks strutted about with their colorful tail feathers outstretched. To the delight of the crow, some of the peacock feathers lay on the ground when the peacocks left. Crow flew down to the ground and stuck the feathers into his wings and tail. He attached a few sticking up from his head.

            “Now I am as beautiful as a peacock,” he said.

            But, when he went to join them in their strutting, the peacocks poked him and pecked him. What a fuss!

            “You are not a peacock,” they said, “Don’t imitate us!”

            Bruised and still dragging some broken peacock feathers in his tail, he returned home. After all his insults, no one wanted his company! As he sat alone, the other crows said, “It’s foolish to try and be what you’re not. Learn to love the feathers you’ve got!”

          • proudzionist

            Off topic

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            This is silly. Arab is a generic tent term that covers many people, including the Palestinians that you European Zionist thugs invaded and assaulted with genocidal country stealing. You behave with all the savagery of the Nazis assaulting other countries. How are you any better? How are you less deserving of being despised like the Nazis who assaulted the people of Europe.

          • proudzionist

            Burp.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Right, no defense is possible.

          • proudzionist

            Buuuuurp!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Now you are reduced to burps.

            What an easy thug you are to defeat!

          • proudzionist

            Yeah, boy, you sure showed me. Must have been all those substantive details supported by literary references. One thing I’ve noticed about you, Chief, is that you follow Michael Hess and Helen around like a cheerleader, but you never really have anything of substance to say. A real genius, ain’t ya?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Can you imagine how a rape victim would react if her rapist tells her he is here to stay? That is how the indigenous people of Palestine react when the Euro-Jew says he intends to say – really SCARY!

          • Lonny

            Can you imagine the racistCUNT telling the Jews that they are the “rapists,” when it’s the Arabs who were the ones that initiated the violence.

          • proudzionist

            And this absurdity of an analogy comes from someone belonging to a culture that routinely blames and punishes the rape victim rather than the rapist. Nice.

            You might want to look up the definition of the word “indigenous”. It is apparently not what you think. The vast, vast majority of the “indigenous” Arab Palestinians of the 1920’s, 1930’s and 1940’s came from Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. How the heII do you think their numbers nearly TRIPLED during the 29 years from 1919 to 1948? Any time you anti-Semites use the term “indigenous”, you automatically lose the argument. Of course, as we’ve all come to learn, an Arab/Muslim believes that wherever he takes a $hit automatically becomes “indigenous” Arab/Muslim territory.

          • Helen4Yemen

            David Ben-Gurion: “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement.

            Translation: The Arabs did not expel the natives of the land and take their place, they did not settle on the land, they were there only to convert the people into Islam, therefore, the current Palestinian population are the descendants of those who were already there before the arrival of the Arabs.

            David Ben-Gurion: “Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

            Translation: The Palestinian Jews (who later converted to Christianity and then to Islam) never left their land nor were they replaced by the Arabs. The Arabs did not come to settle on the land but rather “to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes”. The Jewish farmers were attached to their land. “was not easily torn from his soil” and the current Palestinians are in fact the descendants of the people who were already there on that land before the arrival of the Arabs.

            Question: Is that not your understanding? If no, give me your translation. Interesting that European Jewry, vividly European, are not shy when they make silly statements such as white Europeans having ancestry on the land of people of color!

          • proudzionist

            It’s really very simple. There was mass migration of Jews from the Middle East to Europe some 2000 years ago. All of the multitudes of DNA studies performed on European Jews confirm what is referred to as a population “bottleneck” some 25-32 generations ago, allowing for all European Ashkenazi Jews to be traced back to about 300 people, however all such DNA studies show unquestionable links to the Levant (i.e. the region in which Israel sits squarely in the Middle). While the studies have all shown similarities between European Ashkenazi Jews and European non-Jews, they have also ALL shown distinct differences between the two groups.

            You can continue to obsess about Ashkenazi and “White” European Jewry all you like. It will still make not one iota of difference in the indisputable fact that European Jewry’s DNA is traceable to the Middle East (in addition, of course, to Europe). The bigger issue for me is why this is such an obsession of yours. We Jews have long, long ago stopped recognizing the differences between us. Today, Ashkenazi and Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews are all intermarried, and share the same synagogues, customs, schools, etc. The bigger issue for me is why you conspicuously avoid any such similar attention to the fact that fully half of Arab “Palestinians” residing in “Palestine” in 1948 immigrated to the region from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other Arab Lands, making your reference to them as “indigenous” quite absurd.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ashkenazi = European

            1- Ashkenazi Jewish Carrier Testing The term Ashkenazi refers to individuals descended from the medieval Jewish communities of the Rhineland in the west of Germany. Many Ashkenazi Jews (AJ) migrated to other parts of Europe, with the majority migrating eastward.(UCSFhealth . org)
            2- Some genetic disorders are more prevalent in the Jewish population originating from Eastern and Central Europe. This group is known as Ashkenazi. (Progenity . com)
            3- Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Jews from Central and Eastern Europe (eg, Germany, France, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania), while Sephardic Jews are descendants of Jews from Spain, Portugal, and North Africa. (uptodate. com)
            4- Tay-Sachs carriers are found most frequently among families of eastern European Jewish descent (Ashkenazi Jews) – (Tay-Sachs . org)
            5- The term Ashkenazi refers to individuals descended from the medieval Jewish communities of the Rhineland in the west of Germany. Many Ashkenazi Jews (AJ) migrated to other parts of Europe, with the majority migrating eastward. (UCSFhealth. org)
            6- Tay-Sachs Disease is an autosomal recessive neurodegenerative disorder that is typically fatal within the first two or three years of life. Its incidence is highest among Ashkenazi Jews (Jews of Eastern European descent), approximately 100 times higher than in the general population. (http://education .med. nyu. edu/)
            7- CD is two-to-four times more prevalent among individuals of Ashkenazi Jewish descent compared to non-Jewish Europeans. aimed at exploring genetic variation associated with CD in Jewish individuals of Eastern and Central European decent (Ashkenazi Jews) (http://www. feinsteininstitute. org/)
            8- The Center currently screens for 19 disorders found most frequently in Ashkenazi Jews of Central and Eastern European descent Jews.(www .jewishgenetics. org)
            9- Jewish genetic diseases are a group of disorders that occur with higher frequency in the Jewish population. The Ashkenazi Jews, those whose ancestors were from Central and Eastern Europe (i.e. Poland, Russia, Germany, Lithuania, etc.) are at higher risk than the general population for several genetic diseases. (www. templebeth-el. com)

          • proudzionist

            Cut and paste much? I’m not interested in your rolodexed nonsense (including pictures) you have at your ready, with which to pollute every forum in which you participate. And I’ve even more disinterested in you HitIerian approach to Jewish genetics. If you wish to suggest a connection between Ashkenazi Jews and European non-Jews, there’s no problem there. If you want to dissociate any Middle East (Levant) connection to “White” European Jews, you have absolutely no scientific basis with which to make that separation. It appears you are clueless to the fact that 2,000 of years of presence in a particular geographic locale, with some intermarriage along the way, make for significant changes to appearance and genetics. It is your obsession with Ashkenazi Jews that is so troubling (mostly to you, as we Jews don’t care about the various Jewish sects). Why do you suppose it is that you give no attention to the fact that half of all Arabs in “Palestine” in 1948 had immigrated there from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other Arab lands. And why do you consider them to be “indigenous”?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky:

            1- Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence. – Vladimir Jabotinsky ”

            2- colonization carries its own explanation, the only possible explanation, unalterable and as clear as daylight to every ordinary Jew and every ordinary Arab. colonization can have only one aim, and Palestine Arabs cannot accept this aim. It lies in the very nature of things, and in this particular regard nature cannot be changed. ”

            3- In the second place, this does not mean that there cannot be any agreement with the Palestine Arabs. What is impossible is a voluntary agreement. As long as the Arabs feel that there is the least hope of getting rid of us, they will refuse to give up this hope in return for either kind words or for bread and butter, because they are not a rabble, but a living people. And when a living people yields in matters of such a vital character it is only when there is no longer any hope of getting rid of us, because they can make no breach in the iron wall.

            4- But that does not mean that the Arab people of Palestine as a whole will sell that fervent patriotism that they guard so jealously, and which even the Papuans will never sell. Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonized. That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into the “Land of Israel.”

            5- There can be no voluntary agreement between ourselves and the Palestine Arabs. Not now, nor in the prospective future. … it is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority.

            6- There is no justification for such a belief. It may be that some individual Arabs take bribes. But that does not mean that the Arab people of Palestine as a whole will sell that fervent patriotism that they guard so jealously, and which even the Papuans will never sell. Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised. That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into the “Land of Israel.”

            7- This is equally true of the Arabs. Our Peace-mongers are trying to persuade us that the Arabs are either fools, whom we can deceive by masking our real aims, or that they are corrupt and can be bribed to abandon to us their claim to priority in Palestine , in return for cultural and economic advantages. I repudiate this conception of the Palestinian Arabs. Culturally they are five hundred years behind us, they have neither our endurance nor our determination; but they are just as good psychologists as we are, and their minds have been sharpened like ours by centuries of fine-spun logomachy. We may tell them whatever we like about the innocence of our aims, watering them down and sweetening them with honeyed words to make them palatable, but they know what we want, as well as we know what they do not want. They feel at least the same instinctive jealous love of Palestine, as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico, and the Sioux for their rolling Prairies

            8- We cannot offer any adequate compensation to the Palestinian Arabs in return for Palestine. And therefore, there is no likelihood of any voluntary agreement being reached.

            9- We may tell them whatever we like about the innocence of our aims, watering them down and sweetening them with honeyed words to make them palatable, but they know what we want, as well as we know what they do not want. They feel at least the same instinctive jealous love of Palestine, as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico , and their Sioux for their rolling Prairies. To imagine, as our Arabophiles do, that they will voluntarily consent to the realisation of Zionism. In return for the moral and material conveniences which the Jewish colonist brings with him, is a childish notion, which has at bottom a kind of contempt for the Arab people; it means that they despise the Arab race, which they regard as a corrupt mob that can be bought and sold, and are willing to give up their fatherland for a good railway system.

          • Lonny

            1 tiny Jewish country where Jews have lived for 3500 years.

            57 Islamic countries spread from the Middle East, to Africa and into Asia and Europe…

            But the Jews are the “colonists.”

            What a dumbCunt.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Palestine population
            Year — Non-Jews — Jews — % Non-Jew/Jew
            1851 — 327,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
            1861 — 356,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
            1881 — 422,000 — 25,000 — 95/5
            1895 — 522,000 — 47,000 — 92/8
            1914 — 675,000 — 85,000 — 87/13
            1919 — 500,000 — 65,000 — 87/13
            1922 — 723,000 — 93,000 — 89/11
            1924 — 765,000 — 113,000 — 87/13
            1931 — 881,000 — 175,000 — 83/17
            1936 — 1,003,000 — 370,000 — 73/27
            1940 — 1,113,000 — 467,000 — 70/30
            1945 — 1,295,000 — 564,000 — 70/30
            1948 — 1,319,000 — 650,000 — 67/33

            Note:

            – The Jews increased from 13,000 in 1851 to 650,000 in 1948 – which is they multiplied by 50 times

            – The non-Jews grew from 327,000 to 1,319,000 in the same period, which is they multiplied by 4 times.

            – How is it that ‘the Jews’ grew by 50 times vs 4 times for non-Jews?

          • Lonny

            Already replied to this spam several times today, racistCUNT.

            Palestine included Jordan and the Arabs were nomadic and crept around the entire region, including Jordan, Syria, Egypt. They weren’t local. The Jews lived in the towns.

          • proudzionist

            The Jews increased from 13,000 in 1851 to 650,000 in 1948, an increase of 637,000.
            The non-Jews increased from 327,000 to 1,319,000 in the same period, an increase of 992,000.

            So you ask, “How is it that ‘the Jews’ grew by 50 times vs 4 times for non-Jews?” Here’s how:

            Jewish immigration from persecution in Russia (and Yemen) in late 1800’s (first Aliyah)
            Jewish immigration from Russian pogroms and anti-Semitism 1904-1914 (second Aliyah)
            Jewish immigration from anti-Semitism in Russia between the end of WWI and 1923 (third Aliyah)
            Jewish immigration from anti-Semitism in Poland and Hungary 1924-1929 (fourth Aliyah)
            Jewish immigration from Europe to escape HitIer in the 1930’s (fifth Aliyah)
            Jewish immigration from the all Arab Countries to escape increased anti-Semitism throughout in late 1940’s and early 1950’s (sixth Aliyah)
            Jewish immigration from Iran, Ethiopia, Russia, Latin America, France and North America to escape anti-Semitism 1960’s through present day

            One hundred years ago, my People were scattered throughout the 4 corners of the world, and were quite content with assimilation into all the world’s cultures, languages and nationalities. But people like YOU, the Jew-haters of the world, could never accept us. Our successes, our closeness to each other, our preference to marry and raise our children within our faith, our practice of our own religion, and our very history were abhorrent to you. So, little by little, you tormented us, attacked us, boycotted us, and kiIIed us to the point that you left us no choice but to leave, and left is NOWHERE TO GO BUT BACK TO OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND. And now that we are back, in relatively small numbers, and on a sliver of land so small, most could not find it on a map, you STILL cannot tolerate us.

            Now it’s YOUR turn to answer my questions. Tell ME how it is that the non-Jewish population of “Palestine” nearly TRIPLED in just 29 years (1919-1948), and more than QUADRUPLED in less than 100 years (1851-1948), yet every single such person and all of their ancestors are referred to as INDIGENOUS? Are we REALLY to believe that all of this was just natural increase (i.e. childbirth)? Are we REALLY supposed to deny the obvious and massive Arab immigration on record from Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and other countries, accounting for more than half of the Arab population increase during the first half of the 20th century? How is it that ALL of these folks became “indigenous Palestinians” at the moment their feet touched down on the soil of Palestine?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Palestine is no white Europeans’ ancestral homeland

            It is PALESTINE – not Israel

            Plehve: “What sort of help then do you ask of us?”

            Herzl: Russian intervention with the Sultan, in order to secure a charter for
            colonization of Palestine. Herzl’s diary entry of Aug 10, 1903

          • proudzionist

            There is no State of “Palestine”, and no nationality as “Palestinian”. What used to be the GEOGRAPHIC REGION of Palestine is now the States of Jordan and Israel. There COULD have been a State of Palestine, but the Arabs refused. Herzl’s reference to “Palestine”, as with every other reference to Palestine (include the British Mandate for Palestine), was as a REGION, not a sovereign State. Think “Appalachia” or “Levant”. These are GEOGRAPHIC references, not national references.

          • proudzionist

            Hess, you buffoon. BS News is nothing but your personal blog. It is not a news site, and has no employees. You are not merely the “editor” of this BLOG; you are it’s sole proprietor. And your blog has virtually no internet traffic, according the internet rating services. You have no reporters, no cameramen, no printing presses, no radio/television presence, no NOTHING. Your blog does nothing more than collect articles from actual media outlets, and then you post your commentary on those articles. You provide no actual news, and conduct no interviews. You’re nothing. You’re like a 6-year-old acting like a grownup.

            As for you repetitive invitations to “Come on, I’ll go on KRQE with you tomorrow”, you have no affiliation with KRQE, and they never heard of you at KRQE (I checked). The folks at KRQE would laugh in your face if you ever called them and asked to be given air time for your anti-Semitism. You build yourself up into some sort of journalist, when you have no experience at all in journalism/media.

            And why did you run away with your tail between you legs earlier today, when I called you out in your lies in another thread? You’re a COWARD, that’s why. Oh sure, you like to challenge people to PROVE that you’ve lied (something you do whenever you type/talk), but as soon as someone actually provides proof, you run away like a mouse.

            Am Yisrael Chai, mamzer

          • Pepper Wingate

            I don’t suppose you have a Judo gi, but if you find yourself in Vancouver, Canada, do drop me a line. I would love to see you on the mats. I am 5′ 7″ so I am quite sure you are taller and much fatter than I am, but I take on black belts who are over 6′ so I would be interested to try. Or are you afraid of being beaten by a little girl?

        • Pepper Wingate

          Mikey, baby! Stick to an area you actually know something about. I do cognitive ability testing as part of my job. Do you know what IQ actually tests? The correct answer is “No” because even the experts don’t actually know what it tests. They do know that the tests are stable and test the same thing over time. There are many different kinds of IQ. Animals may not have a high IQ but they survive very well in the wild. I won’t venture a guess as to your ability to survive but I do know that you tend to fixate.

    • garybkatz

      It’s none of your business, now is it? We don’t need your permission or approval to return to our ancestral homeland. We don’t need anybody’s.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Then why aren’t you moving to the Ukraine?

        • Lonny

          Right after you blow yourself up in Afghanistan.

        • garybkatz

          Prior to 1948, Jews in Ukraine and elsewhere were told to “Go back to Palestine.” Since then, Israelis are told to move back to Europe. Make up your bigoted minds already!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you aware that European Jews have more than 40 genetic diseases that no other Jews have? While testing for these diseases, genetics scientists discovered that only European Jews were carriers of these Genetic diseases and no Arab Jews were. Test after test revealed that the Arab Jews were free of these diseases. What does that tell you? It tells you scientifically that there is no genetic connection between the white European Jews and the Semitic Jews of the M/E. European Jews are European from time immemorial. Not a single European Jew is a Semite. The Arab Jews are Semites. That is the truth and the undisputed truth.

            Google=>Ashkenazi Genetic diseases

          • Lonny

            Already told you before, racistCUNT… the Jews left the Middle East, were in isolated communities, and had viral mutations. That PROVES that they are not native Europeans. StupidCUNT.

          • garybkatz

            Since they didn’t have genetic testing 2000 years ago, we don’t know how or when Ashkenazi Jews picked up certain genetic traits. BTW, I wonder if there’s a genetic reason for Jew hatred? Or is it merely jealousy?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            For Jews hating other people enough to genocidal country stealing? But only the thugs of the Ashkenazi are like that, so such evil cannot be descended from Palestine and Arab Jews, only from Khazars.

          • Lonny

            DumbCumfaced is just spewing the same dumb slogans over and over again at this point.

          • Pepper Wingate

            That’s a broad condemnation. I would have thought if it was directed at Arabs (which might be equally valid) it would constitute a racial slur.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are ignoring the fact that was the European Zionist thugs that invaded the genuinely Semite people of Palestine to do hateful genocidal country stealing.

          • Pepper Wingate

            I ignored nothing! You are using a broad brush to spread your racism!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So then you admit that the Zionist thugs invaded the genuinely Semite people of Palestine to do hateful genocidal country stealing. Good for you!

            But it’s kind of nonsensical to accuse me of racism because I merely state historical fact.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Impossible to go up against genetic science!

            38 Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Diseases. The carrier rates for Arab Jews is the same as that of the general population, which is very rare. The Ashkenazi have zero genetic relation with Arab Jews. The numbers within parenthesis are the carrier rates for the Ashkenazi.

            1 Bloom Syndrome ( 1/134 )
            2 Canavan Disease ( 1/55 )
            3 Cystic Fibrosis ( 1/24 )
            4 Familial Dysautonomia ( 1/31 )
            5 Familial Hyperinsulinism ( 1/68 )
            6 Fanconi Anemia C ( 1/100 )
            7 Gaucher Disease ( 1/15 )
            8 Glycogen Storage Disease 1A ( 1/64 )
            9 Joubert Syndrome 2 ( 1/110 )
            10 Lipoamide Dehydrogenase Deficiency (E3) ( 1/107 )
            11 Maple Syrup Urine Disease 1B ( 1/97 )
            12 Mucolipidosis IV ( 1/89 )
            13 Nemaline Myopathy ( 1/168 )
            14 Niemann-Pick Disease ( 1/115 )
            15 Spinal Muscular Atrophy ( 1/41 )
            16 Tay-Sachs Disease ( 1/27 )
            17 Usher IF ( 1/147 )
            18 Usher III ( 1/120 )
            19 Walker Warburg ( 1/120 )
            20 3-Phosphoglycerate Dehydrogenase Deficiency ( 1/280 )
            21 Abetalipoproteinemia ( 1/180 )
            22 Alport Syndrome, Autosomal Recessive ( 1/188 )
            23 Arthrogryposis, Mental Retardation and Seizures ( 1/373 )
            24 Bardet-Biedl Syndrome ( 1/107 )
            25 Carnitine Palmitoyltransferase ll Deficiency ( 1/51 )
            26 Congenital Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia ( 1/55 )
            27 Congenital Disorder of Glycosylation la ( 1/57 )
            28 Dyskeratosis Congenita, Autosomal Recessive ( 1/203 )
            29 Ehlers-Danlos VllC ( 1/248 )
            30 Fragile X Syndrome ( 1/115 )
            31 Galactosemia ( 1/172 )
            32 Multiple Sulphatase Deficiency ( 1/320 )
            33 Polycystic Kidney Disease, Autosomal Recessive ( 1/107 )
            34 Retinitis Pigmentosa 59 ( 1/118 )
            35 Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome ( 1/36 )
            36 Tyrosinemia l ( 1/150 )
            37 Wilson Disease ( 1/70 )
            38 Zellweger Syndrome ( 1/172 )

          • Lonny

            Already told you a few hundred times… that since they are Jewish diseases, it’s because the Jews are Middle Easterners in Europe who stayed in closed communities and contracted a virus which muted within their community only, racistCUNT.

          • Pepper Wingate

            You do realise that most of those were discovered and many named by Jewish doctors. What have your people added to medical science? Since the first millennium.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Since you are deflecting, it means you do not dispute the information presented.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Can’t respond, can you!

          • Pepper Wingate

            Are you aware that that narrow gene pool has more to do with the persecution Jews experienced in Europe and the number of Jewish people murdered over that time which reduced the genetic diversity? Yes, I think you do but you eliminated that to make your point.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Since you are only deflecting, it means you do not dispute the information presented.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Right back at you!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So what? It was your myth they were responding to.

          • Lonny

            Dumphuqq says the Palestinians are around for 10,000 years and then blubbers about the word, “myth.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- Would the Europeans distinguish between Hillary Clinton and Tzipi Livny?

            2- Would the Europeans distinguish between David Duke and Michael Oren (Bornstein)?

            Aren’t the Ashkenazi indistinguishable from the Europeans and they look just
            as European as the rest of the Europeans? Yes or no?

          • Lonny

            Europeans distinguished that Jews were not Europeans, racistCUNT.

      • Helen4Yemen

        But the problem is that on your ‘ancestral homeland’, you stick out as aliens, as Europeans, just like the British tourists do in Kenya!
        Haha! I laughed!

        • Lonny

          Tough luck. Go tell the Europeans they have your permission to go on a murdering spree of Arabs since Arabs don’t “belong” in Europe, racistCUNT.

          Jews stuck out in Europe too, racistCUNT. The Europeans knew the Jews weren’t European, that they were from the Middle East. How come you’re too stupid to know that, racistCUNT?

      • Helen4Yemen

        But-but, the question was:

        Do any of the Europeans on the picture of the article look like people from
        the ME region? Yes or no?

        • Lonny

          Their DNA looks like it’s from the Middle East, racistCUNT.

    • d gitalgravity

      Majority of Israelis are from Middle East and never lived in Europe or elsewhere.
      Ashkenazi Jews only make up 2.8 million out of 8.5 million citizens of Israel
      And despite the fact some of the Ashkenazi Jews have lighter skin ( because they lived in exile for a long time) majority still have Middle Eastern features, like nose and hair…..so stop with your lies already.

      • Lonny

        Already did that one with her, but the loser deliberately ignores reality in order to maintain her racism…. standard operating procedure for racists.

      • Helen4Yemen

        “Contemporary Jewry is comprised of ~13 million people, of whom 5.7 million reside in the United States and 4.7 million reside in Israel, with the remainder living throughout the world .
        Among the Jews of the United States,
        90% are of Ashkenazi origin.

        Among the Jews of Israel
        47% are of Ashkenazi,
        30% of Sephardic
        23% of Oriental origin”.

        Source: nature. com

        • Lonny

          RacistCUNT sure hates Jewish DNA, which proves that they are the actual “Palestinians.”

        • d gitalgravity

          I already told you ….the correct number of Ashkenazim Jews in Israel is 2.8 million which is 32%
          Look it up on Wikipedia, liar.

      • Helen4Yemen

        You have the Ashkenazi as 32% and Nature dot com has them at 47%!

        Why do you want to exaggerate the numbers of Arab Jews in Palestine and diminish that of the Ashkenazi? Must remember that Zionism was 100% about Ashkenazi and 0% about Arab Jews.

        • Lonny

          Poor racistCUNT is bothered that Ashkenazi Jews descended from the Hebrews.

        • d gitalgravity

          Google Ashkenazi on Wikipedia , and you will see that the number is 2.8 million , and you will get the correct census ….so please enough with your lies.

          You know zero about Zionism moron, and even less about Arab Jews….so stick with what you know best racist jihad hatred of Jews.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- The Right’s Latest Weapon: ‘Zionist Editing’ on Wikipedia ( Haaretz )
            2- Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups ( The Guardian )
            3- Manipulating Wikipedia Content: Israeli Program to Train Editors to Ensure that “What is Written” is “Zionist in Nature” ( GlobalResearch )
            4- A pro-Israel group’s plan to rewrite history on Wikipedia ( Eloctronic Intifada )
            5- Wikipedia Editing for Zionists ( Thelede )
            6- Biased Wikipedia editing in Israel raises concerns of political meddling ( France24 )
            7- There is increasing evidence that Wikipedia is being troll edited by individuals on the payroll of the Israeli government ( Wayne Madison )
            8- The Poison Pill of Israeli, and Wikipedia Censorship ( Richard Silverstein )

          • Lonny

            Jew-hating racistCUNT sure has a lot of copy/paste spams at her disposal. This one is number 327 and she’s already posted it 42 times today.

          • d gitalgravity

            They quote the source of the census moron that gave them that number.

            If anyone fakes statistics it’s brainwashed, Jihadi, Arab liars like you

          • Helen4Yemen

            From the Guardian (part 1)

            Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups

            Rachel Shabi in Jerusalem and Jemima Kiss

            Wednesday 18 August 2010

            Two Israeli groups set up training courses in Wikipedia editing with aims to ‘show the other side’ over borders and culture

            An Israeli flag in the former Gaza Strip settlement of Neve Dekalim
            Two Israeli groups have set up ‘Zionist editing’ courses with aims to alter perceptions about Israel.

            Since the earliest days of the worldwide web, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians has seen its rhetorical counterpart fought out on the talkboards and chatrooms of the internet.

            Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in “Zionist editing” for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

            Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site.

            “We don’t want to change Wikipedia or turn it into a propaganda arm,” says Naftali Bennett, director of the Yesha Council. “We just want to show the other side. People think that Israelis are mean, evil people who only want to hurt Arabs all day.”

            Wikipedia is one of the world’s most popular websites, and its 16m entries are open for anyone to edit, rewrite or even erase. The problem, according to Ayelet Shaked of Israel Sheli, is that online, pro-Israeli activists are vastly outnumbered by pro-Palestinian voices. “We don’t want to give this arena to the other side,” she said. “But we are so few and they are so many. People in the US and Europe never hear about Israel’s side, with all the correct arguments and explanations.”

          • Lonny

            Who cares, DumbCUNT.

      • Helen4Yemen

        I was referring to the Europeans displayed on the picture:

        a) The look Asian
        b) They look MEastern
        c)They look Chinese
        d) They look European
        e)They look African

        What is your answer? Let me guess? You are not going to answer since
        the answer is not the one you would like to be. Haha!

        • Lonny

          All related by DNA, racistCUNT.

        • d gitalgravity

          As I told you the there are only 2.8 million Ashkenazi Jews living in Israel out of over 8.5 million Israelis, (32%) that is a fact.

    • Snag

      You are as obsessed with race and colour as the KKK and the Nazi Party. Nice company you keep.

      • Helen4Yemen

        The Ashkenazi does claim to originate from Palestine, right?
        But he is a white man, right? How is that possible? Can George Bush claim to originate from Palestine? Isn’t the Ashkenazi just as European as George Bush?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Dr. Blake Alcott: The Zionist project was never primarily about a literal safe haven in

    Palestine but rather about the collective ‘self-determination’ of a group of modern

    European colonial-settlers, while historically the Jews as a group flourished

    throughout the Arab and Islamic worlds.

    ______________

    Dr. Blake Alcott: Liberal Zionism’s last step towards honesty about the historical truth

    could be explicitly to concede that the persecution of Jews happened in Europe and

    not under Islam and had nothing to do with Palestine, Palestinians and the Arab world.

    • Lonny

      Jew-hateTwat proves to everyone that Jew-hate is a form of extreme psychosis.

      • So you cannot tell the difference between Hitler and the Palestinians? Ummm, I think YOU should be checked out and mentally evaluated. You have a screw lose.

        • Lonny

          So, you’re too much of a Jew-hating qoqqsucker to grasp that I pointed out Jew-haters are psychotic?

          I think you should quit blowing Jihadis, goatface.

          • Oh gosh you wound me! Hahahahahaha… Impotent little worm. I have forgotten more actual facts about this conflict than you ever knew. And you would not know a real Jew if you tripped over one you Hasbara troll anti-Semite fraud. Now run along and vote for tiny hands. You are like two peas in a pod. Impotent, tiny, clueless and a cowardly little pukes.

            You have a nice day now ya hear?

          • Lonny

            It’s kind of like wounding a lump of granite. You are just as dense as one another and just as intelligent as one another.

            You clearly haven’t forgotten how to be a Jew-hating little crapstain.

            Keep blowing goats, goatface.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Who is a ‘Jew’? Look at the pictures of the link below and tell me

    https://worldpeace365.*files.wordpress.*com/2016/02/compare109.*png?w=1496

    • garybkatz

      Who’s a Muslim? Do you propose DNA tests to determine who should control the 50-some Muslim countries? Or who should be allowed into Mecca? Why are you concerning yourself with Jewish identity? Were you thinking of converting?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Tell me how the Ashkenazi is connected to Palestine?

        a) Is it God because gave land to future European converts?
        b)Is it because white Europeans are only ‘returning’?
        c)The European holocaust?

        Tell me?

        • Lonny

          Over 90% of them. Read the DNA studies, dumb racistCUNT.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Aha, the Muslims are like the Christians and the Jews composed of many races from Africa, to Asia to Europe to the ME and the Americas. The problem is that the Jew claims to be made up of one race. Funny, very funny that the Nigerian, the Yemeni, the German, the Chinese, the Ugandan Jews could all be one race. Very funny! And white Jews despise all dark skinned Jews.

        • Lonny

          The Jews are still the Jews and that’s why you call them all Jews, racistCUNT.

          You’re too stupid to be bothered by the fact that their DNA ties them together, racistCUNT.

  • Richard Galber

    So who was the activist who said their was no danger.
    Danger and fear are perceived differently by different people at different times.
    Also there were issues at different parts of the campus at different times in the evening, and that activist was not at all of them.
    Your diatribes Ben seem to be losing their edge; I used to enjoy them their for their unabashed vitriol, now they are just a bit boring
    No-platforming the opposition by screaming and shouting to stop them speaking is a form of violence as well as a form of extremely intolerant bigotry that has no place on any university campus by anyone at any time

    • Helen4Yemen

      Why don’t you tell us what you disagree with by giving us a couple of quotes?

      • Lonny

        Why don’t you just spam some of your skin-color racism, racistTWAT?

  • Blake

    The one on the right looks like a botched experiment

    • Helen4Yemen

      Hehe! I saw that!

      • Lonny

        Whoever sees Jew-hateTwat thinks her neck threw up.

  • garybkatz

    An anti-Zionist is someone who believes that every ethnic group and religion in the world is entitled to their ancestral homeland…except the Jews.

    • Helen4Yemen

      But do you really believe that Palestine inhabited by people of color could

      possibly be the homeland of lily-white European Ashkenazi? Then if one told

      you that Nigerians actually originate from Norway, you will have no problem

      believing? Note: 90% of world Jewry is European Ashkenazi.

      • Lonny

        RacistCUNT still can’t figure out that the Jews are the actual Palestinians… The Europeans knew they weren’t European. The Jews knew they weren’t European.

        Point that out to racistCUNT tens of thousands of times, and she’ll refuse to admit it.

      • garybkatz

        2000 years of exile will do that. BTW, haven’t you ever seen “Palestinians” with blue eyes and blondish hair? I sure have.

        • Helen4Yemen

          2000 years will do what?

          Make the African Jews look African and
          the Chinese Jews look Chinese and
          the European Jews look indistinguishable from George Bush
          and Arab Jews look just like their Arab brothers?
          Are you saying ‘Jews’ know how to morph to look like the
          people they live surrounded by? Can we then expect the
          Ashkenazi in Palestine to resemble the Arabs in 2000 years?
          Oh, I laughed at the last question…

          • Lonny

            How do you know what happens in 2000 years, racistCUNT?

            Light skin color is only 5000 years old.

            Too bad you’re too stupid to read the DNA studies which prove they came from the Fertile Crescent, racistCUNT.

          • garybkatz

            Uh, have any of them been exiled to other continents for 2000 years? Besides, you would hate Israel even if every Jew living there was olive skinned with dark eyes.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Olive skin”? I hear that only from the Ashkenazi.
            They also say, ‘Mediterranean’? Mediterranean quite
            a long ways away from Russia and Lithuania, no?

          • Lonny

            How do you know what changes people go through in 2000 years, racistCUNT? Are you an expert on genetic drift?

            The underlying DNA proves that you’re just a racistCUNT.

            Read the Hammer DNA studies.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?

          • Lonny

            Absolutely, racistCUNT. Read the Hammer DNA studies.

          • garybkatz

            Your pal Hitler didn’t worry about such things; he considered the Jews one race. If only you’d been there to tell him the Jews were disparate…

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Still deflecting… pathetically.

          • Helen4Yemen

            He worries about excluding black Jews out on a public forum — therefore, at first, he just does not answer it and when pressed to answer it deflects –

          • Lonny

            Why are you into the skin color of Jews, racistCUNT?

          • Helen4Yemen

            3rd time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?

            Yes or no?

          • Lonny

            Yes, dumbCUNT.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did Hitler consider the Ugandan Jew a black person or a Jew?

          • Lonny

            DumbCunt

          • Helen4Yemen

            Would Hitler be able to distinguish on facial appearance between
            Hillary Clinton and Tzili Livini?

            Yes or no?

          • Lonny

            Why are you so into ethnic groups and how they look. Much of a racist, racistCUNT?

          • Helen4Yemen

            2nd time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?

          • Lonny

            Millionth time, racistCUNT… Yes.

            Read the Hammer DNA studies.

          • Pepper Wingate

            And you say “it’s not about race”! You, girl, are racist!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, since you are avoiding answering the question, the only answer is ‘no’. White Jews would never accept black African Jews to be their blood relatives.

          • Pepper Wingate

            How you manage to type is beyond understanding.

          • Mike Abramov

            You bet she is. I thought all this stuff ended after the Nurenburg Trials.

          • Mike Abramov

            YAWN!!!

          • Eric11210

            Yes.

          • America Firster

            Every Jew living there pre Zionism was indeed Semitic and guess what. Nobody hated them.

          • garybkatz

            Google massacres of Jews in the Middle East, to see how wrong you are. Even the Crusaders went out of their way to kill innocent Jews. Nobody ever needed a reason to hate Jews. They just needed hate.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Do you see that the Ashkenazi was expelled from Europe 108 times and from Arab countries only after the Euro-Jew stole Palestine?
            __
            250 – Carthage 415 – Alexandria 554 – Diocèse of Clermont (France) 561 – Diocèse of Uzès (France) 612 – Visigoth Spain 642 – Visigoth Empire 855 – Italy 876 – Sens 1012 – Mainz 1182 – France 1182 – Germany 1276 – Upper Bavaria 1290 – England 1306 – France 1322 – France (again) 1348 – Switzerland 1349 – Hielbronn (Germany) 1349 – Saxony 1349 – Hungary 1360 – Hungary 1370 – Belgium 1380 – Slovakia 1388 – Strasbourg 1394 – Germany 1394 – France 1420 – Lyons 1421 – Austria 1424 – Fribourg 1424 – Zurich 1424 – Cologne 1432 – Savoy 1438 – Mainz 1439 – Augsburg 1442 – Netherlands 1444 – Netherlands 1446 – Bavaria 1453 – France 1453 – Breslau 1454 – Wurzburg 1462 – Mainz 1483 – Mainz 1484 – Warsaw 1485 – Vincenza (Italy) 1492 – Spain 1492 – Italy 1495 – Lithuania 1496 – Naples 1496 – Portugal 1498 – Nuremberg 1498 – Navarre 1510 – Brandenberg 1510 – Prussia 1514 – Strasbourg 1515 – Genoa 1519 – Regensburg 1533 – Naples 1541 – Naples 1542 – Prague & Bohemia 1550 – Genoa 1551 – Bavaria 1555 – Pesaro 1557 – Prague 1559 – Austria 1561 – Prague 1567 – Wurzburg 1569 – Papal States 1571 – Brandenburg 1582 – Netherlands 1582 – Hungary 1593 – Brandenburg, Austria 1597 – Cremona, Pavia & Lodi 1614 – Frankfort 1615 – Worms 1619 – Kiev 1648 – Ukraine 1648 – Poland 1649 – Hamburg 1654 – Little Russia (Beylorus) 1656 – Lithuania 1669 – Oran (North Africa) 1669 – Vienna 1670 – Vienna 1712 – Sandomir 1727 – Russia 1738 – Wurtemburg 1740 – Little Russia (Beylorus) 1744 – Prague, Bohemia 1744 – Slovakia 1744 – Livonia 1745 – Moravia 1753 – Kovad (Lithuania) 1761 – Bordeaux 1772 – Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia) 1775 – Warsaw 1789 – Alsace 1804 – Villages in Russia 1808 – Villages & Countrysides (Russia) 1815 – Lbeck & Bremen 1815 – Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria 1820 – Bremen 1843 – Russian Border Austria & Prussia 1862 – Areas in the U.S. under General Grant’s Jurisdiction[1] 1866 – Galatz, Romania 1880s – Russia 1891 – Moscow 1919 – Bavaria (foreign born Jews) 1938-45 – Nazi Controlled Areas
            1948 – Arab Countries

          • peepsqueek

            This is why Jews needed a Jewish State. They were messed over in Europe and they had to maintain a lower status in Islamic controlled countries and territories.

          • Helen4Yemen

            {Nobody ever needed a reason to hate Jews.}

            It was only the Ashkenazi that faced hatred and not Arab or other Jews.
            ___
            Theodore Herzl : “The Jewish question persists wherever Jews live in appreciable numbers. Wherever it does not exist, it is brought in together with Jewish immigrants.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ken Livingstone:

            “There were large Arab Jewish communities that never suffered threats or attacks. They lived in peace alongside their Arab neighbors. But all of this was destroyed with the establishment of the State of Israel.”

          • Pepper Wingate

            Unlike those Jews in Hebron who were driven out by their “peaceful” Arab neighbours. Then when the Jordanians occupied the area the Jordanian army bulldozed the Jewish buildings so Jews could never return to their homes. Now there’s a law that proscribes the Death Penalty for Arabs who sell their property to Jews. That’s the only place in Israel where Apartheid prevails.

          • Eric11210

            And if you believe that lie Madame Jihad, perhaps I could interest you in a bridge? It’s got a lovely view of Brooklyn.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The Crusaders were just like the European Zionists. They killed everybody.

            This will be more helpful.

            Rebuttal for ZioNazis claiming that Muslims treated Jews badly

            ->http://www.thejc.COM/comment-and-debate/comment/68082/so-what-did-muslims-do-jews

        • Helen4Yemen

          There are white skinned Arabs – not large in number who have white skin and blue eyes and blond hair. They are not that many they do not have European features as the Ashkenazi do.

          • Lonny

            Tell us what happens to Arabs who live in Europe for 2000 years, since you’re such an expert, racistCUNT.

          • Eric11210

            Always the same desperate nonsense from Madame Jihad.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Therefore,

          “Israelite” went to Nigeria and morphed into Nigerian ?
          “Israelite” went to Yemen and morphed into Yemeni ?
          “Israelite” went to China and morphed into Chinese ?
          “Israelite” went to Uganda and morphed into Ugandan ?
          “Israelite” went to Europe and morphed into European ?
          “Israelite” went to India and morphed into Indian ?
          “Israelite” went to Nicaragua and morphed into Nicaraguan ?
          “Israelite” went to Ethiopia and morphed into Ethiopian ?
          “Israelite” went to Japan and morphed into Japanese ?
          “Israelite” went to Zimbabwe and morphed into Zimbabwean ?

        • America Firster

          How would 2000 years of exile change the physical appearance of a group? Answer only one way. If that group intermarried with other groups. In which case it is no longer than original group.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Actually, the Ashkenazi did not intermarry with other groups. They were born European from time immemorial. Think about it, if their origin was Palestine and moved to Europe and produced a new generation with the Europeans, there would remain a hint in that bi-racial new generation, even after 2000 years. As it is, the Ashkenazi are indistinguishable from the rest of the Europeans on facial features.

          • garybkatz

            Well, when you produce some photos of what they looked like at the time of their exile, we can talk. Elsewhere in this article I posted a link to a NY Times article about genetic studies that link all Jews around the globe. I don’t expect you to understand.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nobody understands it, because it is fraudulent and can’t be reproduced.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you will make the silly claim that with the transportation available at that time the whole of the people of Palestine were transported to Rome. Hilarious! How silly!

          • garybkatz

            Rome? What are you talking about? Rome exiled them from Israel. They scattered all over.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Baloney! Myths constructed for the gullible. Why would the Romans want to destroy their tax base? When all they needed to do was to remove the hated remnants of the Herodian Dynasty? You Zionist freeks will believe any nonsense that you think justifies your vast crimes against humanity. You are no different from the Nazis tried at Nuremberg and deserve the same treatment.

            You’re going to tell me that the Chinese Jews arose from from the fake “Diaspora”?

          • garybkatz

            Why would the Romans destroy the second Temple when they could just tax it? You don’t know history – you just mouth off in ignorance.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Oh what a liar you are! It was a Roman fort and no second temple ever existed except in the deviously hallucinating minds of Zionist genocidal country stealers.

          • garybkatz

            Boy, are you stupid. How does your brain generate enough impulses to keep you breathing? Every succeeding post from you drops closer to a zero I.Q. I know of a Jew who could’ve possibly helped you, but unfortunately Freud is dead. Perhaps a brain operation could help you, a la “Flowers for Algernon?”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re a very funny boy. Because I reject your silly yammer for the mythology it travels, I’m the one that’s stupid? Ha, ha! You’re even too stupid to do the homework you need to do in order to present a credible story.

            I’m sorry. No brain operation could possibly help you. Your attitudes would immediately foul any cleansing. You are a very sick Zionist fraud pushing genocidal country stealing.

          • garybkatz

            You’re very colorful. Let me get a bowl of popcorn, while you prepare to tell me what really happened on 9/11.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You want me to feel sorry for you, eh? That’s easy to do. But this is more your speed, written by an Israeli historian far more knowledgeable than you. After reading it you may not be laughed at so much…

            Black November

            The Balfour Declaration 99 years ago marked the beginning of a settler colonial project of tragic proportions.

            By Ilan Pappe

            November 03, 2016 “Information Clearing House” – “Al Jazeera” – November is a painful month in the Palestinian calendar. It is dotted with commemorative days that have one theme in common: the partitioning of Palestine.

            ->http://www.informationclearinghouse.INFO/article45776.htm

          • garybkatz

            Pappe is an idiot. He openly admits he has an agenda and his agenda is more important than facts. Given his slander against Israel, he should change his name to “Pappe Smear.”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Ha, ha! Look at the mendacious Zionist thug screaming on the spit of history! Anybody can verify what Pappe says by a little research on the Internet.

            Ilan Pappe is a highly regarded historian, and what are you, “garybkatz”, but a pusher of the Zionist con game that no one believes anymore, not even you!

          • America Firster

            So only when we can produce photos from a time thousands of years before photos existed will you accept the fact that the Ashkenazi are from Europe/Russia? Look at what community has done to your mind!

      • Pepper Wingate

        Take a look at Ahed Tamimi, also known as Shirley Temper. One of the best pictures of her is biting an Israeli soldier trying to arrest her brother. That blonde hair is exactly what you complain about with the Ashkenazi Jews. It’s straight off the Russian Steppes. Seems you are calling Jews “white” when Palestinians are from far and wide, too!

        • Helen4Yemen

          Take a look at this picture. There are many Arabs that look the one on the left but none like the European on the right.

          https://i0.*wp.*com/worldpeace365.*files.*wordpress.*com/2016/02/pal-european.png?ssl=1&w=450

        • Helen4Yemen

          Give me one name of an Ashkenazi who resembles the people of the ME?

          • Pepper Wingate

            Not replying to my post. Go boil your head!

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          She already pointed out that there were some blond, blue-eyed Arabs with Arab features.

          But whatever rare excuse you did up, you still remain alien European invaders and genocidal country stealers with no right to throttle Palestine.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Is Palestine equally the ‘ancestral’ homeland of the Nigerian and Indian and Kenyan and Lithuanian and Yemeni and German and Chinese and Ugandan Jews?

      • Lonny

        They all descended from the Hebrews, racistCUNT.

        Learn what “diaspora” means, racistCUNT.

      • Jerome

        It’s a safer place for Muslims to practice their religion. An Israeli Arab lives with far greater safety than an Arab in the A Arab world.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Take your medicine, your tech, your gold, and just go!

          • peepsqueek

            You left your home in the Middle East to come live in the US, where you use this high tech to post your propaganda freely, which if you did in your home Country, if you had an unrestricted internet, could land you in very hot water if you did not preach the party line. You are obviously from a privileged class of people, or you would not be living here and so highly educated and free to speak your mind.

          • Mike Abramov

            That will result in the death of many Arabs and it will all your fault.

        • America Firster

          I think I will wait to hear from Arabs living in Israel about their lot in life rather than taking the word of their oppressor.

        • davidr

          Qualify your statement Jewish Jerome.

          • Mike Abramov

            OY! Behave yourself. This is a site for debate and not for neo-Nazism.

          • Stacy Flanagan

            neo-nazism is judaism.

          • Mike Abramov

            Ok it’s like that, is it. Change your name to Eva Braun. You anti-Semites are gutless, which is why I never hear these comments in a live meeting.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        I reduced “proudzionist” to monosyllable grunts and groans. Let me know when he starts putting together sentences again. He is easy to reduce.

        • Helen4Yemen

          It is so easy to demolish their claim because it is totally false and silly. They claim not to originate from Europe but Palestine, otherwise, how can they claim to be ‘the Chosen’? But they expect the world to make an exception for them and say that when it comes to Jews, the African, European, Arab, Chinese are of ‘Jewish’ genes – but not the African Muslim and Chinese Muslim and Arab Muslim or African Christian and European Christian and Arab Christian. Total insanity. Remember: if they let go of their claim to originate from Palestine, then they got nothing left to left to hold on to. That is why they have special training courses they call ‘hasbara’ that trains them how to fight back the truth with falsehood.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            All true! I could tell that he was working off a script. that’s why I kept shoving the basic question of his thuggery at him.

          • Mike Abramov

            YAWN!

          • Eric11210

            Oh Madame Jihad, always ignoring science…

        • Helen4Yemen

          Thanks, I will now read your comments.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Please don’t. They are as banal as the creature I was pursuing.

          • Helen4Yemen

            🙂

        • Mike Abramov

          But I am not.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re sicker than “proudzionist”? Can’t argue against that point.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I already told him he ain’t got a ‘Yiddish-Kop’, that is ‘Jewish brain’.
            The Jews insult us by saying that our brains are ‘Goyish-Kop’, i.e.
            gentile brain which they say is inferior to Jewish brain.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            They are always complaining about others being bigoted against them, while containing superlatives in bigotry, of which Zionism is only one extreme manifestation.

        • Eric11210

          Always so full of yourself and thinking you are superior because you hate Jews. We’ve outlasted your kind before and we’ll be here when you and your pathetic lies are on the dustbin of history.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Not to Jews, only to depraved Zionist thugs like you. Nothing to be proud of. It’s so easy.

          • Eric11210

            Always that tired lie. At least your buddy Madame Jihad is more honest and admits she hates all Jews.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Always another lie from you. You are worthless.You are blocked.

          • Eric11210

            Yeah, yeah. Your buddy Madame Jihad said the same thing.

      • Eric11210

        Yes, it is Madame Jihad.

    • Truth

      Who believes every ethnic group is entitlted to their ancestral homeland? Most people do not. When did Greeks say all of Turkey belonged to them? When did Armenians say all of Eastern Turkey belong to them? When did Cherokees say East Asia or China belonged to them? When did Gypsies say India belonged to them? People immigrate, people get expelled, states and borders change. What Zionism is is the idea to change history and live in the past. And FYI there is no proof a religious group has Palestine as their ancestral homeland. Palestinians are more native to Jerusalem than Polish Jews.

      • Pepper Wingate

        Good, we have great plans for a shopping mall in Mecca. We’ll bring in the bulldozers tomorrow.

        • Helen4Yemen

          You did not respond to the comment! Here it is again:

          FYI there is no proof a religious group has Palestine as their ancestral homeland. Palestinians are more native to Jerusalem than Polish Jews.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Too stupid to understand my response.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            She understood it. You were looking to do some more genocidal country stealing. All you Zionists lack even a rudimentary conscience.

          • davidr

            Filth. Scourge of the planet.

          • Eric11210

            Talking about yourself and your fellow Jihadis? I quite agree.

          • davidr

            Ha! Imbecile.

          • Eric11210

            Yes, we get it. You are an imbecile.

          • Eric11210

            Oh Madame Jihad, always with the grand lies. You know full well there is a massive amount of archeological evidence but in your insanity you try desperately and laughably to lie.

          • davidr

            Pray, tell us what Jewish archaeology there is to see.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Archaeology that shows lily white Ashkenazi Europeans are descendants of dark skinned people from the ME. Haha!

          • davidr

            You have to give it to them though; they’re all superb liars! Taught it in school, I’m told along with theft. The Fagan School of all Things Evil.

          • Eric11210

            It does indeed Madame Jihad.

          • Eric11210

            smithsonianmaG.Com/history/what-is-beneath-the-temple-mount-920764/?all
            nbcnewS.Com/id/28162671/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/jewish-archaeological-discoveries/#.WB9ZSSSqnBs

            Never learned to use Google, did ya? Guess it’s not something your madrasa teaches…

          • davidr

            Haram esh-Sharif is Muslim. It has nothing to do with Judaism. The UN have confirmed this and you have all been ex-communicated.

            You tell lies about lies. Repulsive.

          • Eric11210

            Just because your fellow Jihadis lied to the UN doesn’t make it true moron.

      • Mike Abramov

        Well Mr. Truth, you too must be trespassing on someone else’s land too. Idiot.

        Every single group of people cited in your statement have been persecuted at some stage, or ousted by a more powerful army. That is history.

        I have no problem with Palestinians believing in a right of return, but they are no more Palestinian than I am? They are Arabs who may be able to trace their routes to a couple of hundred years but most Palestinians are tribal and originally hailed from many different countries.

    • America Firster

      An anti Zionist is someone who thinks special privileges should not be given to any group over any other group. Who does not think white folks from Europe are native to the deserts of the ME. Who does not think the richest, most powerful ethno religious group in the world is a persecuted minority. Simply, an anti Zionist has not been subject to brainwashing from early childhood to believe the ridiculous

      • Helen4Yemen

        Great comment! Remember that for them to face reality and admit that they are a European people would be equal to admitting that they stole Palestine. Therefore, they will respond with the same insane and illogical statements over and over and over again.

        • Eric11210

          Except that this is our ancestral homeland and nothing you or your fellow Jihadis can say will change that.

      • Eric11210

        Translation: you hate Jews.

        • America Firster

          Not many of them but some of them, sure. Based on their racist, violent, hate fueled actions. The question is why you don’t. You would hate any non Jews who acted so abominably. And take that effin Israeli flag off the American one, you traitor.

          • Eric11210

            The only traitor here is you, with your insane hatred and racism towards Jews. The flag stands for freedom and tolerance. Not the sick hatred you espouse.

          • America Firster

            You are quite confused. It’s not me who mixes the flag of a foreign nation with that of America. And Israel stands for tolerance, does it? A nation that gives all Jews the right to live there and denies the same to the Palestinians who are actually from there? I understand you were well brainwashed before you were old enuff to know what’s going on. But for God’s sakes. How can you continue to buy into the Big Lie?

          • Eric11210

            As usual, you can’t seem to figure out basic facts. All Israeli citizens, Jewish and Arab have the exact same rights. And the so called Palestinians are Arabs from Arabia. The Jews are from the Land of Israel. I realize you were brainwashed before you were old enough to know what’s going on but for goodness sake, why do you continue to buy into the Big Lie of the so called Palestinians????

          • America Firster

            1950 law about confiscation of Absentee Landlord Property. This law defines persons who were expelled, fled, or who left the country after November 29, 1947 as “absentee.” Property belonging to “absentees” was placed under the control of the State of Israel with the Custodian for Absentees’ Property. The Absentee Property Law was the main legal instrument used by Israel to take possession of the land belonging to the internal and external Palestinian refugees, and Muslim Waqf properties across the state. This law continues to be used to this day by quasi-governmental agencies in Israel to take over Palestinian properties in East Jerusalem, for example.
            1950 Law of Return. This allows every Jewish person to immigrate to Israel and this extends to the children and grandchildren of Jews, as well as their spouses, and the spouses of their children and grandchildren. The flip side of this is that the rights of Palestinians and others to enter the state and become citizens, even if they were born in the area that is now the State of Israel, are extremely restrictive. This discrimination against the non-Jewish minority has been periodically reinforced. For example, the ban on family unification law of 2003 prohibits citizens of Israel from reuniting with Palestinian spouses living in the West Bank or Gaza.
            In 1952 the state authorized the World Zionist Organization, the Jewish Agency, and other Zionist bodies founded at the turn of the 20th century to function in Israel as quasi-governmental entities in order to further advance the goals of the Zionist movement, to the detriment of minorities.
            The Land Acquisition Law of 1953 transferred the land of 349 Arab towns and villages—approximately 1.2 million dunams in all (~468 square miles)—to the state to be used preferentially for the Jewish majority.
            In 1953, the Knesset bestowed governmental authorities on the Jewish National Fund (JNF or Keren Kayemeth LeIsrael) to purchase land for exclusively Jewish use. The state granted financial advantages, including tax relief to facilitate such purchases.
            In 1960, the state passed a law which stipulates that the ownership of “Israel lands”—namely the 93% of land under the control of the state, the Jewish National Fund, and the Development Authority—cannot be transferred in any manner.
            Although most Palestinians that remained in 1949 were granted Israeli citizenship, they were subject to martial law until 1966. Travel permits, curfews, administrative detentions, and expulsions were part of life until 1966. Once Palestinians were relieved from martial law, laws were passed to clearly define the primacy of ethnically Jewish Israelis.

            In 1969, the state passed a law that gave statutory recognition to cultural and educational institutions, and defined their aims, inter alia, as developing and fulfilling Zionist goals to promote Jewish culture and education at the expense of minority goals.
            There is a law mandating that Knesset session must be opened with a reading of portions of Israel’s declaration of independence that emphasizes the exclusive connection of the state of Israel to the Jewish people.
            There is a law that bans any political party that denies the existence of Israel as a “Jewish” state. In other words, a party that would advocate equal rights for all citizens of Israel irrespective of ethnicity would not be allowed to enter the Knesset.
            There are laws that establish separate educational systems which are then unequally administered.
            More recently, the Knesset has passed laws to defend against efforts to bring the Palestinian minority onto a more equal footing.

            In 2011 the Knesset passed a law that empowers hundreds of local Jewish communities to exclude applicants based on ethnicity or religion. The Supreme Court upheld this law in September 2014.
            In 2011 the Knesset passed a law prohibiting anyone from calling for a boycott of Israel, its institutions, or any person because of their affiliation with Israel, including the settlements in the occupied territories. The law creates a private right of action for persons targeted by a boycott to sue for damages. As Noam Sheizaf puts it: “You can boycott anything in Israel except the occupation.” This vague law is blatantly aimed at Palestinians who are supportive of the BDS movement—while it allows people like Avigdor Lieberman to call for boycott of Arab owned businesses with impunity. The law was upheld by Israel’s Supreme Court on April 15, 2015.
            As demonstrated by its decision upholding the boycott law, the Supreme Court of Israel has failed to stem the ever rightward tilt of the Israeli polity.

          • Eric11210

            Good for you. You can quote the hate site Mondoweiss. Notice that I actually quote independent sources but hey, why would a jihadist such as yourself bother with such things, right?

          • America Firster

            Poor Eric. When confronted with facts that put the lie to the propaganda he has been raised on (the listing of several laws that favor Jews over non Jews in Israel) he cannot accept the truth. Hey Eric. Why can Jews who never lived in Israel “return” while Palestinians who lived there cannot?

          • Eric11210

            Funny guy. Calling Modoweiss factual.

          • America Firster

            This is all public info. Are you actually denying the facts listed in my post? Anyone can look it up and see its accurate. Now how are you going to spin that in your head?

          • Eric11210

            If it’s public info then please provide a link to the source for it from the official government websites. All you did was quote the hate site Mondoweiss — a website well known for constantly distorting the facts and plain old lying, kind of like you.

          • America Firster

            Tell ya what. Why don’t you look it up? easy enuff. But what will you do when you find its all true? So you better not look into it. And I have faith you won’t

          • Eric11210

            You’re the one making accusations and now you expect me to do your homework for you. Classic.

          • finaly had enough

            America Firster, I do not write often but sometimes it is just impossible not to react. You are probably one of the most ignorant and uneducated persons that I met who is never -the- less not embarrassed to expressed her opinion… Amazing! Just amazing! In a country where information is available, education is available and encouraged, you managed to keep yourself in this virginal state of complete and total absence of knowledge and proud of it… and to top it all you are so embarrassingly angry and vicious… Like all underachievers (that means losers in case you did not get it) you are also very jealous and envious… Have you ever been to Israel, have you ever met (Jews and Arabs) who are equal citizents of a beautiful, free democratic state where all hard working people live in piece interrupted only by the terrorist from the bordering states who think (like you) that they get special honors for killing Jews? Have you seen the accomplishments of the little country with 6 million people in technology, medicine, science etc. By the way if you are using a cell phone… stop right now… it was invented in Israel too.
            I hope you are not a Trump supporter. Because I am . Unlike you — for all the right reasons. I would not list them since I know that you would not understand. You can not cure stupid and I would not hold it against you.
            Just a piece of advice… try to speak less in public.

          • America Firster

            You got anything to say that actually is pertinent to my comment?

      • Mike Abramov

        I am not sure you will understand this statement, but I will give it a go.

        It is not about where you come from, it is about how you feel. I know Jews who have no sense of identity with Zionism. They call themselves English first. I know Christians who care more for Israel than they do their own homeland.

        It is not brainwashing, as you put it. It is your soul. Being a Zionist does mean you have to be a Jew and being a Jew does not mean you are a Zionist.

        This site is littered with political and nationalist statements with no consideration for the inner self.

        • America Firster

          Why should Jews from Europe be given special privileges over the natives of Palestine?

          • Mike Abramov

            Natives of Palestine?

            Most Palestinians can only trace their routes back about 100+ years. However, the answer remains the same. There are no special privileges. It’s the Jewish homeland…whether you are from Europe or Mongolia.

          • America Firster

            What an incredibly delusional and racist statement. People who have lived there forever “can only trace their routes (sic) back about 100 years” while white folks from Europe and Russia can claim it as a homeland. It is fascinating to see the absolute nonsense people will believe if its put into their head at an early enough age and if its constantly repeated.

          • Mike Abramov

            I am afraid it is a fact and certainly not delusional or racist that the Arabs in Palestine can trace their routes back to Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan as well as Palestine. The Arabs are nomadic by tradition. Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian for example.

            As for the Jews, my own family can be traced back to the first diaspora circa 335 BC. Although we are categorised as Sephardi, we are not as Sephardi refers to Spain. My family originally settled in Baghdad and Kabul.

            However, the (sic)’white folks’ you refer to are slightly different. Many of the these ‘white Jews’ were from the diaspora after the fall of the Roman Empire in 490 AD. Most traveled NE towards the Black Sea ports where the Ukraine was gaining it’s reputation as the bread basket of Europe.

            Some ‘white folks’ went NW towards France and Germany (Ashkenaz). There, they settled until around the 13th century. By then, many gilds had emerged for various trades, but Jewish membership of gilds was barred. So, the Ashkenazi Jews went east in to Poland which was an under developed new kingdom and lacked a professional class. The King was looking for rent collectors, book keepers and accountants.

            By 1335 King Casimir III granted a township to the Jews now called Kazimirz then, just outside the walls of Krakow.

            During this period many Jews became Catholics and many Catholics became Jews. It was remarkably time of considerable religious tolerance and the Jews enjoyed the protection of the King.

            In the meanwhile, the Arabs prior to 600 AD were living in tribes and basically were pagan. This in itself was fine as paganism is about being in touch with the four elements. Fire earth air and water. Mohammed had a message from God and the rest is history. Thousands of Arabs converted to Islam (The Truth) at the point of a sword.

            Jews and Arabs lived side-by-side for the next 1,500 years quite happily.

            By the 17th century things changed in Europe. The mini ice-age started and went on for 6 years. Crops failed, people starved and there had to be a scapegoat. This began the first commercialised form of anti-Semitism and continued on until 1945…..but it did not stop there.

            As the Jewish people were granted a homeland of their own by democratic decree from the UN in 1948, pogroms in the Arab countries started. Jews, who had been living with Arabs for 1,500 years were suddenly kicked out of Iraq and Egypt and Syria and in most cases with everything they owned kept by the state. In Iraq, this was known as The Fahud. A total of 850,000 Jews were made homeless and penniless.

            So, here we are in the 21st century. The tirade of hatred against the Jewish state continues under the banner of anti-Zionist (=anti-Semitic but we have to be PC nowadays) and despite Israel’s best efforts to live and work with the Arabs, their leaders, the Imams, the presidents, will not accept a Jewish homeland in the Middle East…..’from the river to the sea Palestine will be Jew free’.

            Now, who is being racist?

          • America Firster

            I see. Because you think that a part of your family lived in Palestine over 2,300 years ago then clearly you are entitled to kick the Palestinian people out of their homes. I think we can all clearly see who is the racist.

          • Mike Abramov

            I did not say that, you did. How little people change. You accuse me of being racist without the evidence, you assume that the Palestinians were ‘kicked out’ of their homes and yet 1,000,000 Arabs live in Israel.

            My brief history of the Jewish Diaspora was to illustrate that circumstances, war and racial differences result in demographic changes. The Jews managed it despite massive losses and without any outside help. But, the Palestinians have made it an international crisis. You really have been sucked in, haven’t you.

            A question for you. Why do 2,000,000 Palestinians still live in refugee camps?

          • America Firster

            Because Israel will not allow them to return to their homes. That’s pretty obvious. Of course you are a racist. You think jews from Europe should be able to kill Palestinians and steal their land, home, and culture. What would you call that?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Is there a “Jewish culture”? No!

    There are no ‘Jewish customs’. The German Jew’s customs are German, the Ethiopian Jew’s customs are Ethiopian, the Yemeni Jew’s customs are Yemeni. There are ‘Jewish religious’ customs just like Muslim religious customs shared across the Muslim world. The European Jews actually have no custom to speak of since they disdain the European customs and upon arriving in Palestine empty handed of any customs of their own wasted no time stealing Arabic food, art, music, dance, clothing, you name it, they stole it and stamped it with ‘Israeli’. Arabic falafel and humus is now peddled all over the world by European Ashkenazi Jews and advertised as ‘Israeli’

    • Lonny

      Yes, racistCUNT, there is. That’s why you call Jews… “Jews.”

      Such a bloody idiot.

    • Richard Galber

      Jews assimilated into every culture where we have lived during our exile, but every one of those Jewish communities retained their cultural separatism. That is why we have survived as ‘the Jewish People’ for so long in foreign lands.

      Incidentally where do you get all this information and knowledge to claim to speak for ‘the Jews’, all thirteen million of us. You seem to know so much of the history and the psyche of the Jews throughout the world in the Jewish diaspora and in Israel you must be a professor in Judaism and the repository of the entire history of the Jewish people

      Lastly, do you do anything other than replying to comments on these pages. It takes time and effort to generate the amount of commentary you generate. Just wondering

      • Helen4Yemen

        “Jews assimilated into every culture where we have lived during our exile,”

        Did your face also “assimilate” and the Jew who went to Europe morphed to look like the Europeans and those who went to Africa morphed into African? Is that the story you want to peddle?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Where are all those white Europeans on the picture from?
    Are they originally from Lithuania or Russia?

    • Lonny

      Originally from Israel according to DNA studies, racistCUNT.

  • Jerome

    What a load of rubbish you write. There was no sign of Islamophobia .. it was a bunch of ‘students without a cause’ acting in a barbaric manner to stop an ‘Friends of Israel Society’ from hosting an Israeli speaker. Your perspective of that evening and the Middle East in general is twisted & perverse.

    You’re unable to even engage in reasonable debate. You gain nothing from having blocked me on Twitter.

  • James Mendelsohn

    Even by Ben White’s low standards, this is an absolutely shocking piece of “journalism”. Four comments will suffice:
    (1) In his third paragraph, White cites UCL’s statement, dated 28 October, which described the protest as “non-violent”. However, he neglects to mention that UCL issued an update to their statement on 30 October, stating that they had indeed received allegations of violence and intimidation. Since White’s own piece is dated 2 November, it is difficult to see how he could have been unaware of UCL’s updated statement.
    (2) Some of the very articles that White links to describe, among other things, how a female Jewish student was assaulted (i.e.: held against a door for two minutes); how the Friends of Israel group was forced to move from its original venue to a different room, and how its members were chased across the campus by pro-Palestinian students; how the speaker had to leave out of a rear entrance for his own safety; how pro-Israel students had to leave in threes, under the watchful gaze of the police, and then had the words “Shame shame shame” chanted at them. Yet White himself airbrushes such details out of his account.
    (3) White quotes a veteran pro-Israeli activist as saying that “I cannot in all honesty say I felt particularly
    threatened or anxious. It was pretty much water off the proverbial
    duck’s back.” Yet White omits the activist’s next words: “However here is the rub. It was very real
    and intimidating for inexperienced Jewish students, especially the
    freshers, who had never experienced such visceral hate and nor of course
    should have to.”
    (4) In summary, it is hard to resist the conclusion that Ben White has no objection to the violent intimidation of pro-Israeli voices – most of whom will be Jews and which will include many if not most Jewish students – on a UK campus. He would rightly be appalled if pro-Palestinian students received similar treatment from pro-Israeli representatives. And he wonders why he himself is so frequently accused of being anti-Semitic.

    • Helen4Yemen

      The European Jew was in discord with the rest of the Europeans for many centuries. How did that discord go away? It went away when the Ashkenazi went away from Europe to Palestine. Now the Palestinians have even more reasons to resent these
      European colonists. If someone arrived at your house uninvited and using a gun forced you out, would you be friendly to such foreign predators?

  • Helen4Yemen

    You left out a lot. Here are more quotes from that exact document by Mark Twain:

    __ ” For the like reasons Spain had to banish him four hundred years ago, and Austria about a couple of centuries later. In all the ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his activities. If he entered upon a mechanical trade, the Christian had to retire from it. If he set up as a doctor, he was the best one, and he took the business. If he exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else. Since there was no way to successfully compete with him in any vocation, the law had to step in and save the Christian from the poor-house.
    __ ” In the cotton States, after the war, the simple and ignorant negroes made the crops for the white planter on shares. The Jew came down in force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the negro’s wants on credit, and at the end of the season was proprietor of the negro’s share of the present crop and of part of his share of the next one. Before long, the whites detested the Jew, and it is doubtful if the negro loved him.
    __ ” In the dull and ignorant England of John’s time everybody got into debt to the Jew. He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands; he was the king of commerce; he was ready to be helpful in all profitable ways; he even financed crusades for the rescue of the Sepulchre. To wipe out his account with the nation and restore business to its natural and incompetent channels he had to be banished the realm.
    __ ” Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money, even ways to get rich. Also ways to invest his takings well, for usury was not denied him. In the hard conditions suggested, the Jew without brains could not survive, and the Jew with brains had to keep them in good training and well sharpened up, or starve. Ages of restriction to the one tool which the law was not able to take from him – his brain – have made that tool singularly competent; ages of compulsory disuse of his hands have atrophied them, and he never uses them now.
    __ ” The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant and villager stood no chance against his commercial abilities. He was always ready to lend money on a crop, and sell vodka and other necessaries of life on credit while the crop was growing. When settlement day came he owned the crop; and next year or year after he owned the farm, like Joseph.
    __ ” Trade after trade was taken away from the Jew by statute till practically none was left. He was forbidden to engage in agriculture; he was forbidden to practise law; he was forbidden to practise medicine, except among Jews; he was forbidden the handicrafts. Even the seats of learning and the schools of science had to be closed against this tremendous antagonist.
    __ ” Speaking of concentration, Dr. Herzl has a clear insight into the value of that. Have you heard of his plan? He wishes to gather the Jews of the world together in Palestine, with a government of their own – under the suzerainty of the Sultan, I suppose. At the Convention of Berne, last year, there were delegates from everywhere, and the proposal was received with decided favor. I am not the Sultan, and I am not objecting; but if that concentration of the cunningest brains in the world were going to be made in a free country (bar Scotland), I think it would be politic to stop it. It will not be well to let the race find out its strength. If the horses knew theirs, we should not ride any more. (Mark Twain: Concerning The Jews, Harper’s Magazine, March, 1898)

  • America Firster

    Profiting from the skill and labor of others is not achieving.

    • garybkatz

      Yeah, those copycats Einstein, Freud, Spinoza, etc. should apologize for stealing your ideas. All those Nobel prizes gotta be returned.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Including the ones to Kissinger and Obama?

        Was Heisenberg Jewish?

      • America Firster

        Ah. The Nobel prizes. Can’t go long without mentioning them, can we? Look at the top Jews Adelson, Wynn, Soros, Saban. Singer, Bloomberg. Each and every one a conman.

        • garybkatz

          Saban? You mean the inventor of one of the polio vaccines? Did he con you out of getting polio? You forgot Steven Speilberg, who conned you into watching all his great movies. Siegel and Shuster, who conned millions of people into buying “Superman” comic books. Bob Dylan, Irving Berlin, The Three Stooges, The Marx Brothers (not Karl, although he was Jewish too), Houdini, Salk (another polio hero), Levi Strauss (ever wear his jeans?), Bohr, Arthur Miller, Kafka, Marc Chagall, and countless others you probably didn’t even realize were members of the Tribe(s). We’re not perfect, but we overachieve, given our small numbers, and we don’t owe you an apology for doing so, nor do we need your approval or permission. If we underachieved, no doubt you would call us lazy. You just can’t please some people. I think YOU’RE the con man. We’ve seen your type for about 2000 years. Same stench as always, blaming another group for your own inadequacies. Sadly, the main person you successfully conned was yourself. Such a waste.

  • Mike Abramov

    I cannot believe how two versions of the same reporting can be so different. Sadly, I was not there but, I have read a contrasting report that the ‘disruption’ was caused by pro-Palestinians and left-wing students deliberately upsetting the meeting because Hen Mazzig, an ex-soldier and openly gay in Israel (note please, in many other countries in the Middle East he could not be openly gay) was ‘in the building’.

    My guess is that knowing the left-wing as I do, they certainly kicked things off. Sadly, the new age Zionist is not the firebrand of old. In the 1940’s and 1950’s a Zionist would have rolled his sleeves up and ‘had a bundle’ with these anti-Semites. Nowadays, Zionists are scared with the exception of a handful of activists………

    • James Mendelsohn

      Quite right Mike, this is appalling “reporting” by Ben White. As I have commented elsewhere:

      (1) In his third paragraph, White cites UCL’s statement, dated 28
      October, which described the protest as “non-violent”. However, he
      neglects to mention that UCL issued an update to their statement on 30
      October, stating that they had indeed received allegations of violence
      and intimidation. Since White’s own piece is dated 2 November, it is
      difficult to see how he could have been unaware of UCL’s updated
      statement.
      (2) Some of the very articles that White links to
      describe, among other things, how a female Jewish student was assaulted
      (i.e.: held against a door for two minutes); how the Friends of Israel
      group was forced to move from its original venue to a different room,
      and how its members were chased across the campus by pro-Palestinian
      students; how the speaker had to leave out of a rear entrance for his
      own safety; how pro-Israel students had to leave in threes, under the
      watchful gaze of the police, and then had the words “Shame shame shame”
      chanted at them. Yet White himself airbrushes such details out of his
      account.
      (3) White quotes a veteran pro-Israeli activist as saying that “I cannot in all honesty say I felt particularly
      threatened or anxious. It was pretty much water off the proverbial
      duck’s back.” Yet White omits the activist’s next words: “However here is the rub. It was very real
      and intimidating for inexperienced Jewish students, especially the
      freshers, who had never experienced such visceral hate and nor of course
      should have to.”
      (4)
      In summary, it is hard to resist the conclusion that Ben White has no
      objection to the violent intimidation of pro-Israeli voices – most of
      whom will be Jews and which will include many if not most Jewish
      students – on a UK campus. He would rightly be appalled if
      pro-Palestinian students received similar treatment from pro-Israeli
      representatives. And he wonders why he himself is so frequently accused
      of being anti-Semitic.

      • Mike Abramov

        James – I could not put it better myself. Ben White claims not to be anti Semitic, however this is a quote from some years ago.

        “I do not consider myself an anti-Semite, yet I can also understand why some are.”

        WHAT? if you can understand why some people are anti=Semitic, you ARE anti-Semitic..He gets nervous if I am in the audience at one of his meetings…..and I can see why.

        • James Mendelsohn

          Thanks Mike, yes I am aware of that quote. I have found that Ben tends not to respond rationally to criticism, he recently blocked me on Twitter when I asked if he was still supporting Malia “Zionist-led media” Bouattia. Apart from that, the thing that strikes me about this piece is the extent to which he inverts reality by selectively quoting from his sources and disregarding statements that clearly contradict his own “position”… I guess he hopes that no-one will check.

  • d gitalgravity

    There is no point for people who contribute to Wikipedia, with reference to real census, to fake population numbers.
    You’re just grasping at straws ….you are just a Jews hater who is too feeble minded to understand that she is dead wrong.