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Pro-Israeli protestors at a rally outside Downing Street during Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to the UK on September 9, 2016
Pro-Israeli protesters at a rally outside Downing Street during Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to the UK on September 9, 2016

Israel advocacy groups and individuals are seeking to undermine Palestine solidarity activism on British campuses, using Islamophobic abuse and false accusations of antisemitism.

Last Thursday, former Israeli army officer Hen Mazzig, who served in the occupied West Bank as part of the Israeli occupation authorities’ forces, was invited to speak at University College London (UCL) by the Friends of Israel student society.

His presence prompted a protest – described by UCL as “non-violent” – by Palestinian students and their allies, angered by the presence of an individual who proudly participated in a decades-long military regime characterised by human rights and international law violations.

Meanwhile, some 20 or so “veteran” pro-Israel activists arrived, many of whom are known for their harassment of Palestinian students and extremist beliefs about the conflict – more of which below. The event itself was backed by CAMERA, a notoriously hard-line Israel advocacy group.

Even as the event and protest were ongoing, pro-Israel activists began reporting that they were being subjected to “violence” and “aggression” by student protesters. These claims were picked up and repeated unquestioningly in a number of media outlets.

Over the weekend, however, video footage emerged showing those pro-Israel activists from outside campus hurling Islamophobic and racist abuse at protesters – “Get out of our country!”, said one. Others referred to the students as “vermin” and Nazis.

Elliot Miller, an employee of a so-called “counter-extremism” outfit called Student Rights, was filmed shoving people, and shouting at protesters that Islam is a “violent religion”.

Student Rights was originally set up in 2009 explicitly to counter Palestine solidarity activism. Its first “director” was none other than Raheem Kassam, former Nigel Farage aide, now failed UKIP leadership candidate, and a friend of EDL-founder Tommy Robinson.

The racist language used by Israel’s supporters, including those who were present at UCL, continued after the event. Mazzig, for example, who said the experience was worse than his time in the Israeli army, referred to “barbaric” students as an “Arab mob”.

Another pro-Israel organiser, Stand With Us campus coordinator Devora Khafi, said the student protesters had “behave[d] like animals”, adding the following slur: “How dare they call me a killer whilst it’s their own people that are being taught the tactics of terrorism?”

As if the Orientalist, dehumanising language wasn’t enough, others even diminished the horrors of the Holocaust in their efforts to generate hysteria about proceedings: one Israeli news site called it a “pogrom”, others compared it to the “Warsaw Ghetto”.

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre, meanwhile, combined all of the above by comparing the protesters to Nazi Stormtroopers and “Jihadi volunteers”, and perhaps most disturbingly of all, describing them as a form of cancer to be uprooted (“this growth must be deracinated before it metastasizes”).

Yet on a blog supported by CAMERA, a pro-Israel activist who attended the event with “20 or so veterans” freely acknowledged there was never any danger: “I cannot in all honesty say I felt particularly threatened or anxious. It was pretty much water off the proverbial duck’s back.”

Those “veteran” pro-Israel activists who descended on the UCL campus are key to understanding this story. Among sections of the British Jewish community, there is frustration at what is seen as insufficient efforts by communal bodies to defend Israel and fight the so-called “new antisemitism”.

This discontent erupted very publicly in 2014, in the context of Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, which unsurprisingly prompted an unprecedented wave of solidarity with the Palestinians and anger with the Israeli government.

In the last two years, a number of grassroots groups have emerged across Britain in support of Israel, with established bodies like the Board of Deputies of British Jews having to play catch up, co-opting such efforts while under pressure from this more hard-line constituency.

A number of these extremist, “grassroots” groups or individuals were present at UCL last week, including Sharon Klaff of Campaign4Truth, who recently organised an event – with the support of the Israeli embassy – where Palestinian statehood and even identity was denied and scoffed at.

Campaign4Truth previously organised a panel event featuring a notorious academic who believes that “if Europe continues its current path” it will “fall before the Islamic challenge”.

Also present at the UCL event was Simon Cobbs, from Sussex Friends of Israel, a man best known for accosting peaceful demonstrators and shouting in their faces. Another attendee was David Collier, a blogger who creepily listed Palestinian students in the UK, whose presence he termed an “invasion”.

These are the kinds of groups who are pressuring the likes of the Board and Jewish Leadership Council (JLC) to mobilise as many resources as possible to fight Palestine solidarity activism. One such pro-Israel activist has vowed that their presence at students’ events “will increase”.

The attack on Palestine solidarity activists, and students in particular, is not just about intimidation and Islamophobia. It is also about using the smear of antisemitism to try and stifle debate, and stigmatise tactics like the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign.

A statement condemning the UCL protest was released in the name of the Board, the JLC, the Union of Jewish Students, and, notably, the Community Security Trust (CST), a charity whose evidence was heavily relied upon by the recent Home Affairs Select Committee report on antisemitism.

The statement, which referred to “violent” protests without any acknowledgement that this is a contested allegation, claimed that an “extreme and intolerant minority” on campus is “determined to prevent pro-Israel, Israeli or Jewish speakers from being heard.”

“Jewish” speakers? The Board, JLC, UJS and even CST are clearly happy to lend their names to a casual, and entirely unsubstantiated, accusation of antisemitism. In fact, the only two incidents cited were protests against a former head of the Israeli navy and Shin Bet, and an Israeli ex-army officer.

Attacks on legitimate political activity such as support for Palestinian rights and BDS are nothing new, even in recent times. Every indication is that this pro-Israel offensive is set to escalate.

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  • peepsqueek

    If boycotting Israel was really all about human rights, Israel would be near the bottom of a very long list of Countries, especially in the Middle East.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      ++

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Right! Everybody would be stomping the European Zionist genocidal country stealers.

      Look how the genocidal invaders keep stealing the homes of the genuinely Semite indigenous people of Palestine!

      ->https://youtu.BE/-sGSRLrE-is

      • peepsqueek

        Palestinian Arab leaders should have made peace with every opportunity. Every Jew left out of Gaza 11 years ago, and Hamas rockets rained down on Israeli civilian populations within weeks. Lesson learned! That does not make me a fan of injustice, but lessons have been learned.

        • garybkatz

          They can’t stand the thought of Jewish hegemony over one square foot of “sacred Muslim land.” It insults their “Arab honor.” Muslims don’t control one-sixth of one percent of the Middle East – boo hoo!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Keep these facts in mind:

            1. The Arab Jews have nothing in common with the Ashkenazi Jews except for religion but have everything in common with their Arab brothers and sisters except for religion.

            2. Arab Jews are the brothers and sisters of the Arab people but only coreligionists of Ashkenazi Jews.

            3. Arabs Jews lived in peace and harmony with their Arab brothers and sisters while European Jews were hated for centuries.

            4. Arab Jews were brought to Palestine by the white Jews as cheap labor to replace the 900 Palestinians that the Europeans ethnically cleansed from their land.

            5. The arrival of the foreign non-Semitic Ashkenazi Jews from Europe to Arab Palestine disturbed the peaceful coexistence of all Arabs.

          • Richard Galber

            Really
            So you know what the Jews ethnically cleansed from the Arab lands think
            Interesting
            How do you know they have more in common with Arabs than their other Jewish co-coreligionists
            Incidentally, half the population of Israel are descended from those Jews forced from the Arab lands and do vote in every election
            First it was 450000 Arabs that left Israel
            Then slowly it climbed to 750000 and recently it has been climbing again
            Are you trying to reach the magic million number so you can then compare Palestinians/Arabs to the approximately one million Jews that used to live in Muslim lands but do not live there anymore. Thousands of years of culture and history wiped out in approximately 25 years. Quite an achievement that your friends managed

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            More crass ignorance displayed.

            Actually, the gradual departure of the Arab Jews from their homes in Arab lands was another machination of the Ben-Gurion by which he planned to fool and terrorize the Arab Jews into Palestine to serve the victorious European Zionist invaders of Palestine as laborers and farmers. It was Ben-Gurion who ordered the Zionist assaults on the Arab Jews.

            Zionist crimes against the Jews
            ->http://www.thepeoplesvoice.ORG/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/11/11/zionist-crimes-against-the-jews

            Zionist terror against the Jews
            ->http://www.inminds.CO.UK/jews-of-iraq.html

            False flag of the Lavon affair
            ->http://whatreallyhappened.COM/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

            All planned and ordered by David Ben-Gurion
            ->https://en.wikipedia.ORG/wiki/One_Million_Plan

            Thanks for reminding us that the assault of the alien European Zionist Ashkenazi invaders was not just against the people of Palestine but against all the Arab Jews. Thanks for reminding us of the vast evil of the European Zionists in forcing two Million Arab (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) people from their homes.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “So you know what the Jews ethnically cleansed from the Arab lands think”

            In 1948 when Europe’s Ashkenazi declared a state on stolen Arab land, there were 850,000 Arabs Jews total in all Arab countries. A decade later in 1958, there were still 475,000 in different Arab countries. Where is the expulsion? On the other hand, white Jews fro Europe expelled 900,000 Palestinians in less than half a year.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “How do you know they have more in common with Arabs than their other Jewish co-coreligionists”
            ____

            All Arab Jews spoke Arabic, used Arabic alphabet, cooked Arabic style food, danced Arab style, sang Arabic, dressed Arabic, looked Arab – Arabic all the way. On the other hand, the Europe Jew is vividly European and spoke the languages of the host countries, his culture was totally European. The only thing the Ashkenazi shares with the Arab Jews is a common religion and there is quite a difference between the wayAshkenazi practices his religion vs. the Arab Jews.

          • Richard Galber

            Jews throughout the diaspora of our exile from our homeland assimilated into the various cultures we found ourselves in; and yet those Jewish communities all over the world retained their bonds to the Jewish people and culture via religion
            Your entire post validates my argument, though I doubt that you can see that through your veil of anti-Zionist/anti-Israel/anti-Jewish hatred
            I refer to anti-Jewish and hatred because that is what it is. With the wars and occupations and refugee crisis’ all over the world, you concentrate on one little state, and that is the state that also happens to be the only Jewish majority state in the world.
            You apply different criteria and demand different outcomes for Israel.
            Israel is the only state in the world where people are calling for its destruction.
            A case in point is Pakistan, a state formed in 1947 due to the split between the Muslims and the Hindus. There was a de- facto partition of one country into the creation of two states and there was a population transfer of an estimated 15 million refugees that fled between them; yet no call for justice and dissolution of states and all the other hallmarks of Arab/Palestinian and Israeli conflict
            There is a name for that one sided bias and bigotry but I will allow you to work that one out yourself

          • Helen4Yemen

            Zionism = colonialism

            Plehve: “What sort of help then do you ask of us?”

            Herzl: Russian intervention with the Sultan, in order to secure a charter for
            colonization of Palestine. Herzl’s diary entry of Aug 10, 1903

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky : ZIONISM = COLONIALISM
            __ ” Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done?” (1923)

            __ “My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. ”

            __ “colonization carries its own explanation, the only possible explanation, unalterable and as clear as daylight to every ordinary Jew and every ordinary Arab. colonization can have only one aim, and Palestine Arabs cannot accept this aim. It lies in the very nature of things, and in this particular regard nature cannot be changed. “

          • Helen4Yemen

            The case of Pakistan-India is like Sudan-South Sudan, indigenous peoples dividing their common land. The case of Palestine is weird, in that lily white Europeans did the stampede to Palestine to steal Arab land at a time when the whole world was getting decolonized.
            Ashkenazi = European! Look in the mirror should you need confirmation.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky : ZIONISM = COLONIALISM

            ” My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. “

          • peepsqueek

            No one suffers more from Islamism than everyday good Muslims who are just trying to put food on the table. And Jews will suffer from the actions of the political far right and the far left as well.

      • garybkatz

        Hey, Dumbass – if Israel is genocidal, it’s the most inefficient genocide in history, given how the “Palestinian” population keeps increasing. What “country” did they “steal?” Do you think Judea got its name because Arabs lived there? It’s named after Jews, Dummy! Arabia is named after Arabs. Say it to yourself, so you’ll keep it straight next time: “Judea – Jews, Arabia – Arabs.” BTW, “Palestine” is not an Arabic word. I’m so sorry that Jews waiting 2000 years to reclaim their homeland was too quick for you to bear. It’s so sad that Israel, one-sixth of one percent of the Middle East, is so overwhelming to you, that it fuels your Jew-hating obsession. So nice that you have sided with the 9/11-celebrating, terror worshipping “Palestabians.” Smooth move. Always go with the Barbarians.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Tell me what connects EUROPEAN Ashkenazi Jewry to Arab Palestine?

          • garybkatz

            The Romans didn’t expel Arabs from Judea/Samaria, because Arabs weren’t there (except for a few nomads). The Romans didn’t destroy the Al Aqsa Mosque, because Islam didn’t even exist. It was the Second Temple. Jerusalem wasn’t the center of Arab life – it was the Jewish capital. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran, but dozens of times in the Old Testament. You can’t sink a shovel into Israel without coming up with troves of Jewish artifacts (which the Islamic Waqf destroys, at every opportunity). You would be hard pressed to find any Arabic artifacts, predating the Arab conquests launched by Islam, starting in the 7th century. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It’s like your brain is calcified against anything about the Jewish history and character of Israel. Bitter and hateful is no way to go through life, My Dear.

          • Helen4Yemen

            David Ben-Gurion: “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement.

            Translation: The Arabs did not expel the natives of the land and take their place, they did not settle on the land, they were there only to convert the people into Islam, therefore, the current Palestinian population are the descendants of those who were already there before the arrival of the Arabs.

            David Ben-Gurion: “Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

            Translation: The Palestinian Jews (who later converted to Christianity and then to Islam) never left their land nor were they replaced by the Arabs. The Arabs did not come to settle on the land but rather “to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes”. The Jewish farmers were attached to their land. “was not easily torn from his soil” and the current Palestinians are in fact the descendants of the people who were already there on that land before the arrival of the Arabs.

            Question: Is that not your understanding? If no, give me your translation. Interesting that European Jewry, vividly European, are not shy when they make silly statements such as white Europeans having ancestry on the land of people of color!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Can you find any Ashkenazi artifacts on the land of Palestine?
            Yes or no?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Excellent question!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha! No reply! That means the answer is certainly NO and they can’t say that and they also can’t say YES, b/c they know people would laugh at them. Every time there is no reply means that they can’t do it. Haha!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Listen my friend: what they say about laughter being the best medicine is so true! I had such a good laugh! This is a brand new – freshly minted – hasbara tale – which makes them look very stupid! He said the Ashkenazi had not yet MORPHED into European till after the exile! I am still laughing!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            He also claims that all these different Jews were all at the Arch of Titus in Rome.

          • Helen4Yemen

            They have no choice but to claim genetic relation with the dark-skinned Arab Jews because there are no nor have there ever been white Jews in the Middle East. Therefore, white Jew is willing to accept relations with lesser beings – the brown skinned Arabs and even with Asians or even with Chinese or Japanese or Indians but NEVER with African Jews. That is why they dump donated blood by Ethiopian Jews.

          • garybkatz

            They didn’t become Ashkenazi until after they were exiled, so your question is flawed on its face. Gee, what a surprise…

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, the Ugandan Jew did not become Ugandan
            and the Nigerian Jew did not become Nigerian
            and the Chinese Jew did not become Chinese
            and the Yemeni Jew did not become Yemeni
            and the Indian Jew did not become Indian
            and the Zimbabwean Jew did not become Zimbabwean
            and the Iraqi Jew did not become Iraqi

            until after they were exiled?

            Hahahahahahaha!

          • garybkatz

            You’re forgetting that Jews were not evangelical. We don’t travel to country after country, trying to convert people. Therefore, all these Jews flowed from the same land. There were many Jewish tribes in Israel, so they may have been varied, even then. But all of this is moot. Israel exists, it is Jewish, and there is nothing you can do that will ever change that. Too bad. Now fly away, Little Insect. You bore me.

          • Helen4Yemen

            So are you saying that there were black Jew tribes and they went straight to Africa and white skinned Jews went to Europe and yellow skinned ones went to Asian and the Arab Jews who remained in the area were always brown, therefore, no morphing took place! Haha!

            4th time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            They may have been varied? I thought you said that:

            “they didn’t become Ashkenazi until after they were exiled”

            meaning that they morphed to become European?

            Which one is it: They left Palestine and they morphed upon arrival
            on destination or they left white and blended in with the Europeans?

            Which one?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            She stomps you, hehe!

          • Helen4Yemen

            He seems confused! He wants to say that the ‘Jews’ left Palestine
            and morphed into European b/c, he said, 2000 years would do that to you, right? Then I brought up the African and Asian and Arab and all sorts of Jews. Then it did not look so believable to say that they went in different directions and like a chameleon started to resemble their surroundings and then he came up with a brand new idea that they were all different colors before they left – haha – I can’t stop laughing. What a deluded people they are.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Aren’t you being kind of ridiculous claiming that Chinese Jews morphed from European Jews? Especially since there have been times that Jew proselytized, or don’t you know about those? How do you think the Khazars got to be Jews?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Weren’t the Ugandan Jew, the Nigerian Jew, the Chinese Jew, the Yemeni Jew, the Indian Jew, the Zimbabwean Jew, and the Iraqi Jew all at the Arch of Titus?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha – I can’t stop laughing – this idea of the Middle Eastern people moving to Nigeria and – morphing into Nigerian and the those who went to Europe – morphing into the white man — I am still laughing! What a strange bunch of delusional people! I kind of remember Michael Jackson’s song, I think ‘remember the time’ where the faces kept changing on that video.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Also remember that the idea of black Jews is heavily embarrassing to the white Ashkenazi Jews! They love to claim to have genetic relations with the Arab Jews but never with the black African Jews.

        • Helen4Yemen

          “Judea” is an English word since the letter ‘J’ nor the sound ‘J’ do not exist in Hebrew.

          Yes or no?

        • Helen4Yemen

          Judea – Jews

          Arabia – Arabs

          Ashkenazi ?

        • Helen4Yemen

          It is PALESTINE – not Israel

          Plehve: “What sort of help then do you ask of us?”

          Herzl: Russian intervention with the Sultan, in order to secure a charter for

          colonization of Palestine. Herzl’s diary entry of Aug 10, 1903

        • Helen4Yemen

          “Jews waiting 2000 years to reclaim their homeland”
          __________

          The Ashkenazi – who now makes up 90% of world Jewry- is

          a convert – having converted only in the 9th century.

          No Ashkenazi is Semite, not one. I am a Semite and

          when I look at the Ashkenazi, I am looking at George Bush,

          i.e. at someone vividly European as George Bush.

          • d gitalgravity

            There is no an ounce of proof that ” 90% of world Jewry- is convert” that’s a total lie.
            You are a brainwashed, degenerate jihadist LIAR

          • Helen4Yemen

            An estimated 90% of American Jews are Ashkenazi, tracing their heritage to Eastern Europe, France or Germany. The remaining 10% are Sephardic linking their heritage to the Mediterranean or Mizrahi tracing their heritage to Persia, Iran or the Middle East.
            http://www.*jewishgeneticdiseases.*org/for-physicians/

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jews of European descent, often called Ashkenazim, account for some 90% of the more than 13 million Jews in the world today http://www.*ynetnews.*com/articles/0,7340,L-4339595,00.html

          • d gitalgravity

            This article you refer to is a based on a work of Eran Elhaik a 32 year old’s graduate student thesis that at least 95% of the world DNA experts find laughable and preposterous, many of those experts have been working in this field longer than Eran Elhaik.
            Nice try… get an education first before you try talking about things you are clueless about.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Google = DANCING ISRAELIS + 911

        • Helen4Yemen

          An Ashkenzi immigrant calls the Arabs barbarians

          and Hitler called you what?

          Hitler: “Later I often grew sick to my stomach from the smell of these caftan-wearers. Added to this, there was their unclean dress and their generally unheroic appearance.”

          You see, I do not agree with Hitler that Jews were not clean.

          • peepsqueek

            I don’t believe that you care if they are clean or unclean, religious or not religious, Ashkenazi or Sephardic, etc. Nor did Hitler.

            Israel’s neighbors, Jordan and Egypt, have maintained peace with Israel for decades, and they have all benefited from it.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am a person of color and Mein Kampf is filled with hatred for my kind.

            Everything about Hitler disgusts me.

            I never said anything negative about Jews except to say the following:

            1- The Ashkenazi have no other connection to Palestine except as European converts to Judaism.

            2- The Ashkenazi in Palestine are European colonists just like the French in Algeria.

            3- The Ashkenazi are not Semites, because I am one and I aught to know who is not.

            If you see hate in the above comments, let me know.

          • peepsqueek

            You call yourself a semite because your family comes from a semitic Country and you speak a semitic language. However, that whole area if full of mixed blood. This conflict is also over State identity. There are 22 “Arab” Countries in the Middle East that define themselves as both Arab States and Muslim States. There are 22 Arab Countries that belong to the League of “Arab” Nations and the Organization of “Islamic” Cooperation. There is no Coptic State, no Assyrian State, no Berber State, no Kurdish State, no Dinka State, etc. There is one tiny Jewish State, and you do not like it, regardless of the genetic mix in their veins. You said you have never be genetically tested, but I can tell you that everyone the I have ever met, that was genetically tested, was shocked at home mixed they really are, regardless of what they call themselves.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Guess who is not of mixed blood? The European Ashkenazi. 44 genetic diseases that are suffered only by the Ashkenazi at very high rates is enough scientific evidence that they are a people onto themselves, because the Ashkenazi only reproduce with other Ashkenazi – and what is often referred to as a ‘Jewish look’ is actually an Ashkenazi look since the Yemeni Jew looks like the Yemenis and a Chinese Jew looks Chinese.

          • peepsqueek

            Jews are not a race, they are a collective people who have maintained a culture, an ancient text, traditions, rituals, a language, and a historic homeland of Israel. Look many countries that Muslims claim is Muslim or Islamic land, regardless of the indigenous peoples beliefs and laws. If you are going to look at this dilemma with a balanced scale, you would not single out Israel for negative thing you can find to destroy the one tiny Jewish State. I don’t know any Jews that have the diseases you have mentioned, do you? I am sure you can find pockets of them in some places. Are you suggesting that people should live, dictated by genetic testing? They did not have this specific genetic testing in Hitler’s day, but he theorized what you are suggesting.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Guess who is not of mixed blood? The European Ashkenazi. 44 genetic diseases that are suffered only by the Ashkenazi at very high rates is enough scientific evidence that they are a people onto themselves, because the Ashkenazi only reproduce with other Ashkenazi – and what is often referred to as a ‘Jewish look’ is actually an Ashkenazi look since the Yemeni Jew looks like the Yemenis and a Chinese Jew looks Chinese.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “There are 22 “Arab” Countries in the Middle East”

            Why is that the business of the European Jew more than the business of the Chinese or Japanese? Tell me where Ashkenazi concerned himself with Arab states until he stole Palestine.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “There are 22 “Arab” Countries in the Middle East”

            Why is that the business of the European Jew more than the business of the Chinese or Japanese? Tell me where Ashkenazi concerned himself with Arab states until he stole Palestine.

          • peepsqueek

            So you are implying that Ashkenazi Jews cannot live in one tiny Jewish State, but 58 Countries at the United Nations have declared themselves Muslim States and all belong to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation at the UN General Assembly. Do you have a balanced scale?

            Why are the African Countries of Morocco, Tunisia, and the Sudan called “Arab Nations”?

          • Helen4Yemen

            ASHKENAZI means EUROPEAN! You do not get that?

            The ASHKENAZI homeland is EUROPE! You don’t that?

          • peepsqueek

            Ashkenaz was applied in the Middle Ages to Jews living along the Rhine River in northern France and western Germany. The center of Ashkenazi Jews later spread to Poland-Lithuania and now there are Ashkenazi settlements all over the world. The term “Ashkenaz” became identified primarily with descendants of German Jews. What is your point?

          • Helen4Yemen

            The point is that ASHKENAZI claiming Palestine is just like
            Nigerians claiming Norway to be their ancestral homeland.
            Here is a test for the European Jews. Look in the mirror, who is staring back?
            Don’t be shy. Just answer the question —

            a) Chinese
            b) M/E
            c) European
            d) African
            e) Japanese

            What is your answer?

          • peepsqueek

            One good looking guy of mixed races and mixed cultural heritage.

            To your other point– Jews with a heritage and specific cultural dynamic have carved out a tiny homeland in the ancient Kingdom of Israel. In case you are not familiar with the map, Europe is just a few miles in the Mediterranean from North Africa and the Middle East. In the year 1900 there were only 53 independent Countries in the world. Today there are 193 independent Countries. One of them is a tiny Jewish State of Israel.

          • Helen4Yemen

            That tiny ‘Jewish state’ was created at the behest and for the benefit of the Ashkenazi. Why couldn’t the Ashkenazi erect his state in his homeland in Europe?

          • peepsqueek

            Are you playing ignorant? Haven’t you seen what happens to a people that do not have the power to defend themselves, when those in power want what you have? Did you want them to build a homeland on the ashes of six million family members? Jews used to live in Mecca before the invention of Islam. What made your semitic Arab family move to the US, on land that was brutally taken from the indigenous people?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jews did live in Mecca and other parts of the ME but never European Ashkenazi. The ‘holocaust’ is a European affair and the Germans should have paid back the Ashkenazi with a piece of German land.
            __
            Jabotinsky : ZIONISM = COLONIALISM ” My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. “

          • peepsqueek

            Nor were there any Europeans, Middle Easterners, or Africans in the Americas, which means there were no Jews, Christians, or Muslims in the Americas. Most of us are here today as a result of this history. You just want a do-over when it comes to the one tiny Jewish State, in a sea of Islamic take over of the Middle East and North Africa.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky :

            ” Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done? “

          • peepsqueek

            Why don’t you ask all the indigenous peoples where the Islamic invasions have forced them to live under some from of Islamic Sharia, political Islam, and Islamism, regardless of the indigenous peoples beliefs, laws, religious philosophies?

          • Helen4Yemen

            That tiny ‘Jewish state’ was created at the behest and for the benefit of the Ashkenazi. Why couldn’t the Ashkenazi erect his state in his homeland in Europe?

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          The term “genocide” was coined following the Shoah, or Holocaust, and its prohibition was enshrined in the United Nations convention presented in 1948 and adopted in 1951: the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. The convention is not retroactive but is applicable to US-Indigenous relations since 1988, when the US Senate ratified it. The genocide convention is an essential tool for historical analysis of the effects of colonialism in any era, and particularly in US history.

          In the convention, any one of five acts is considered genocide if “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”:

          (a) killing members of the group;

          (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

          (c) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

          (d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

          (e) forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

          “Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Paris, 9 December 1948,” Audiovisual Library of International Law, ->http://untreaty.un.ORG/cod/avl/ha/cppcg/cppcg.html (accessed December 6, 2012). See also Josef L. Kunz, “The United Nations Convention on Genocide,” American Journal of International Law 43, no. 4 (October 1949) 738–46.

          By that measure the alien invader European Ashkenazi were clearly genocidal when they executed their evil Plan Dalet.

          Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

          Over 500 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Palestinians have been in Palestine continuously for over ten thousand years under many name, rulers, and religions, far longer than anything called Jewish even existed, including the last two thousand years, when the invader European ZioNazis certainly weren’t, if ever. They were also the ones who were the ancient Jews, before they converted to Christianity, before they converted to Islam.

          • peepsqueek

            Egyptians were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic. Syrians (Assyrians) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic, Moroccans (Berbers) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic, Iraqis (Kurds, Assyrians, Armenians, Azides, etc) were not Arabs nor did they speak Arabic, Libya was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, the Sudan (tribal Africa) was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, Tunisia was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic. Why are they all called “Arab” Countries, belong to the League of “Arab” Nations, and all have to live under some form of Islamic Sharia, which is Arabian?

          • Helen4Yemen

            An Arab is anyone who speaks Arabic as a mother tongue and since Arabic is a Semitic language, all Arabs are Semites. The Arabs are one people connected by a common language, alphabet, history, traditions, music, dance, art, literature, customs, i.e. a people. Arabs are Jews, Muslims, Christians. Jews are a religious group of very diverse racial make up such as Ugandan-Jews, Kenyan-Jews, Nigerian-Jews, Chinese-Jews, Yemeni-Jews, German-Jews. Nothing binds the Jews of many countries and races except for a common religion.

          • garybkatz

            I’m always amused by fools taken in by propaganda that “Palestinians” make up as they go along. They will claim to be Canaanites, Philistines, Arabs or whatever suits their lie. They didn’t even start making these outlandish claims until the last couple of decades. You believe this BS because you CHOOSE to believe it; you WANT to believe it, because it folds into your psychotic obsession with a tiny Jewish nation.

          • Helen4Yemen

            It is Palestine – not Israel

            Jabotinksy: There can be no voluntary agreement between ourselves and the Palestine Arabs. Not now, nor in the prospective future. … it is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority.

          • Helen4Yemen

            It is Palestine – not Israel

            David Ben-Gurion: “The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill-from the Nile to the Euphrates.”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            I’m going to have fun watching Helen trample your tiny intellect.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Palestine population
          Year — Non-Jews — Jews — % Non-Jew/Jew
          1851 — 327,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
          1861 — 356,000 — 13,000 — 96/4
          1881 — 422,000 — 25,000 — 95/5
          1895 — 522,000 — 47,000 — 92/8
          1914 — 675,000 — 85,000 — 87/13
          1919 — 500,000 — 65,000 — 87/13
          1922 — 723,000 — 93,000 — 89/11
          1924 — 765,000 — 113,000 — 87/13
          1931 — 881,000 — 175,000 — 83/17
          1936 — 1,003,000 — 370,000 — 73/27
          1940 — 1,113,000 — 467,000 — 70/30
          1945 — 1,295,000 — 564,000 — 70/30
          1948 — 1,319,000 — 650,000 — 67/33

          Note:

          – The Jews increased from 13,000 in 1851 to 650,000 in 1948 – which is they multiplied by 50 times

          – The non-Jews grew from 327,000 to 1,319,000 in the same period, which is they multiplied by 4 times.

          – How is it that ‘the Jews’ grew by 50 times vs 4 times for non-Jews?

        • Helen4Yemen

          You have failed to answer all those questions posed to you earlier.
          ___________
          4th time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?Yes or no?
          ___________

          Is there a “Jewish culture”?
          ___________
          Is Palestine equally the ‘ancestral’ homeland of the Nigerian and Indian and Kenyan and Lithuanian and Yemeni and German and Chinese and Ugandan Jews?
          ___________
          Would Hitler be able to distinguish on facial appearance between
          Hillary Clinton and Tzili Livini?

          Yes or no?
          ___________
          Did Hitler consider the Ugandan Jew a black person or a Jew?
          ___________

          Tell me how the Ashkenazi is connected to Palestine?

          a) Is it because God gave land to future European converts?
          b)Is it because white Europeans are only ‘returning’?
          c)The European holocaust?

          Tell me?
          ___________

          But the problem is that on your ‘ancestral homeland’, you stick out as aliens, as Europeans, just like the British tourists do in Kenya!
          Haha! I laughed!
          ___________

          1- Would the Europeans distinguish between Hillary Clinton and Tzipi Livny?
          2- Would the Europeans distinguish between David Duke and Michael Oren (Bornstein)?
          Aren’t the Ashkenazi indistinguishable from the Europeans and they look just as European as the rest of the Europeans? Yes or no?
          ___________

      • Richard Galber

        Semitic refers to a group of languages that include Hebrew and Arabic as well as others
        It does not refer to a people (check your dictionary)
        The term antisemitism arose after someone coined the phrase to refer to a particular hate; hatred of Jews
        This term ‘Antisemitism’ was coined in the mid 1800’s in what later became part of the German state
        Try to use terms in their correct meaning, otherwise you will just be displaying crass ignorance

        • Helen4Yemen

          1- 90% of world Jewry (95% of US Jewry) is Ashkenazi – who are European converts to Judaism and to coin the expression ‘anti-Semitic’ for bias against European non-Semitic Ashkenazi is silly at best. Would you say, ‘anti-white’ to express bias against blacks?

          2- Yes, Semitic is a language group and the only Semites are all Arabs and Ethiopians and nobody else since the Ashkenazi spoke Yiddish and not Hebrew. Learning to speak Hebrew does not make one a Semite just like an Chinese learning to speak English does not become an Englishman.

          3- I am a Semite and I aught to know who is and is not a Semite.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Anit-Semitism was a slur erroneously invented for the hatred of non-Semite Ashkenazi. If you don’t want to be displaying the crass ignorance of using an erroneously applied term, try using anti-Jew, or anti-Ashkenazi instead.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Exactly! You have to remember why they loved the expression of ‘anti-Semite’

            a) for the Ashkenazi, anything that would make them appear to be from the ME is
            something they love.

            b) for the Europeans, they hated the Ashkenazi and what better way to distance their
            origin from those they hate than to say they do not belong in Europe but in Palestine. David Duke is the greatest spokeperson that the Ashkenazi are not Khazars and the reason is because he wants a distance between his Europe and the people he hates.

    • This has been going on for a century all the way back when Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Betarim instigated the riots you people who never actually read history are always falsely going on about…

      It’s easy to just lie as you Hasbara trolls do without pause, it takes time and dedication to actually read all the documents to understand the truth. Of course, you must be able to read and comprehend basic concepts like the rule of law. But over the years I have found that wingnuts such as yourself know nothing about nuance or facts, just incessant Jew hate.

      The irony here is that you lying Hasbara trolls are the biggest real anti-Semites this planet has ever seen. After all, you have helped destroy the Jewish national home forever. As more people catch on to what you have done, they won’t cross the street to pee on you if you were on fire.

      No real Jew denies that they were/are Palestinians or Palestine. It’s just stooopid. My goodness it’s as if you cannot even read that tiny little document called the Balfour Declaration.

      In it, Balfour acknowledges readily that in 1917, Palestine was a country. This fact was codified in Article 22, paragraphs 1 and 4 of the League of Nations Covenant when the state of Palestine was officially created twenty-four years before Israel, in majority Muslim Palestinian Palestine, named as Palestinians by Winston Churchill in 1922 (British White Paper) and proved that he was talking about Muslim Palestinians as the official British Census of Palestine shows, before the ethnic cleansing that was to come, there were SEVEN TIMES more indigenous Palestinians than Yishuv Jews.

      In short, you have been schooled. Try a public library, I suggest you start with The Statehood of Palestine, by Johnathan Quigley, [Knopf 2015]. Quigley was instrumental as well in the state of Palestine becoming the 123rd state to accede to the Rome Statute, giving Palestine access to the ICC, who is on the ground in Palestine right now.

      • Helen4Yemen

        1- Can you please tell me why Palestine is the ‘Jewish national home’?
        2- Who made it so?
        3- What do you base that assumption on?
        4- Do you not agree that Palestine was the home of its inhabitants,
        the Palestinian Muslims-Christians-Jews?
        5- How is the European Ashkenazi connected to Palestine?
        6- Was Palestine not taken over by force?
        7- The discord between the European Jews and European Christians involved two white Europeans. Can you tell me why the Palestinians wound up paying the price?
        8- Do you probably hold the notion that white Euro Jews were only ‘returning’ to Palestine?
        9- Do you possibly believe that the God of the Jews set aside Palestine for his Chosen People.
        10- You have got to tell me why you consider Palestine the homeland of the Nigerian, German, Chinese, Indian, Lithuanian, Russia, Yemeni Jews?

        • garybkatz

          Israel covers one-sixth of one percent of the Middle East. Arabs swarmed out of the Arabian Peninsula and invaded 3 continents. And you’re obsessed with Israel. See a shrink.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The Arabs conquered the Palestinians. They didn’t do genocidal country-stealing like the European ZioNazi thugs of modern times. You’re obsessed with justifying the stealing of Palestine from its indigenous people. See a shrink. Find out why you are so psychopathic.

      • peepsqueek

        The Rome Statute established four core international crimes: genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression. “Genocide” is out, on the basis that Palestinians continue to triple and quadruple their populations both inside and outside of Israel proper. “Crimes against humanity” “war crimes” and “crime of aggression are all out, on the basis that suicide bombers on public Israeli transportation and crowded market places, the specific targeting of Israeli civilians, and the firing of thousand of rockets indiscriminately into Israeli civilian territory, are not only “acts of war” they are all violations of the “UN Rules of War”, which will probably neutralize the arguments, whether some of the accusations have validity or not.

        • You had probably better read the actual Rome Statute before you type another idiotic and false word. It’s really embarrassing for you. It’s almost as if you are bound and determined to show everyone just how truly stupid you are. Here, let me get that for ya:

          “Article 6, Genocide

          For the purpose of this Statute, ‘genocide’ means any of the following acts
          committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or
          religious group, as such:

          (a) Killing members of the group;
          (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
          (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring
          about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
          (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
          (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

          ==

          Argue with that you little pissant. Read it five times until it sinks in just how badly wrong you are. Israel is in violation of them ALL. And it only takes one. Perhaps that’s why all these human rights groups and the UN are all saying the same thing? Perhaps they can read and comprehend basic concepts, and you are simply too lazy to even read documents before you run your mouth…

          Now let’s do crimes against humanity shall we because Israel is obviously engaged with everything on this list as well:

          Article 7, Crimes against humanity

          1. For the purpose of this Statute, ‘crime against humanity’ means any of the
          following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack
          directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:

          (a) Murder;
          (b) Extermination;
          (c) Enslavement;
          (d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
          (e) Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of
          fundamental rules of international law;
          (f) Torture;
          (g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced
          sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
          (h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political,
          racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph
          3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under
          international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph
          or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
          (i) Enforced disappearance of persons;
          (j) The crime of apartheid;
          (k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great
          suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.
          2. For the purpose of paragraph 1:
          (a) ‘Attack directed against any civilian population’ means a course of conduct
          involving the multiple commission of acts referred to in paragraph 1
          against any civilian population, pursuant to or in furtherance of a State or
          organizational policy to commit such attack;
          (b) ‘Extermination’ includes the intentional infliction of conditions of life,
          inter alia the deprivation of access to food and medicine, calculated to
          bring about the destruction of part of a population;
          (c) ‘Enslavement’ means the exercise of any or all of the powers attaching to
          the right of ownership over a person and includes the exercise of such
          power in the course of trafficking in persons, in particular women and
          children;
          (d) ‘Deportation or forcible transfer of population’ means forced displacement
          of the persons concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts from the area
          in which they are lawfully present, without grounds permitted under
          international law;
          (e) ‘Torture’ means the intentional infliction of severe pain or suffering,
          whether physical or mental, upon a person in the custody or under the
          control of the accused; except that torture shall not include pain or
          suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to, lawful sanctions;
          (f) ‘Forced pregnancy’ means the unlawful confinement of a woman forcibly
          made pregnant, with the intent of affecting the ethnic composition of any
          population or carrying out other grave violations of international law. This
          definition shall not in any way be interpreted as affecting national laws
          relating to pregnancy;
          (g) ‘Persecution’ means the intentional and severe deprivation of fundamental
          rights contrary to international law by reason of the identity of the group
          or collectivity;
          (h) ‘The crime of apartheid’ means inhumane acts of a character similar to
          those referred to in paragraph 1, committed in the context of an
          institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one
          racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the
          intention of maintaining that regime;
          (i) ‘Enforced disappearance of persons’ means the arrest, detention or
          abduction of persons by, or with the authorization, support or
          acquiescence of, a State or a political organization, followed by a refusal to
          acknowledge that deprivation of freedom or to give information on the
          fate or whereabouts of those persons, with the intention of removing them
          from the protection of the law for a prolonged period of time.
          3. For the purpose of this Statute, it is understood that the term ‘gender’ refers to the
          two sexes, male and female, within the context of society. The term ‘gender’ does
          not indicate any meaning different from the above.

          ==

          Now you know what actually keeps the self-admitted war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu up at night. And here you thought it was Iran… Sarah will not be spending any of that stolen soda bottle money in Paris. Well, she can do it with Arafat’s wife, because Bibi will be in the dock at the Hague. The conditions are just about ripe, and President Obama is about to give it all a push forward. The master chess-player has an ace up his sleeve as he always has. And the rule of law is clearly and without doubt on the side of the Palestinians. Once the politics falls the rest of the way, it’s over and it will seem overnight and everyone will wonder why they did not think of it before. The rule of law, it’s a comin’ for Bibi and the Likud and that odious little Ayelet Shaked. And one day advocates of genocide like you.

          • peepsqueek

            You are seriously deficient. I would love to see Israel go before an international Court, as long as all the Middle East leaders are held up to the very same standards in the same Court. You just want to shine a light on Israel and give a pass to the surrounding Islamic Countries with institutional apartheid, sectarian apartheid, religious apartheid, gender apartheid, and have to live under dictatorships and totalitarian governments.

            Pretend you are making your case before the world body, and see how far your personal attacks get you.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Do you dispute any of the following quotes by Benny Morris?

          1- “One of the revelations in the book is that on October 31, 1948, the commander of the Northern Front, Moshe Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite the removal of the Arab population. Carmel took this action immediately after a visit by Ben-Gurion to the Northern Command in Nazareth. There is no doubt in my mind that this order originated with Ben-Gurion. Just as the expulsion order for the city of Lod, which was signed by Yitzhak Rabin, was issued immediately after Ben-Gurion visited the headquarters of Operation Dani [July 1948].”

          2- “From April 1948, Ben-Gurion is projecting a message of transfer. There is no explicit order of his in writing, there is no orderly comprehensive policy, but there is an atmosphere of [population] transfer. The transfer idea is in the air. The entire leadership understands that this is the idea. The officer corps understands what is required of them. Under Ben-Gurion, a consensus of transfer is created.”

          3- “Of course Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood that there could be no Jewish state with a large and hostile Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It would not be able to exist.”

          4- RE: the commanders of Operation Dani : “I definitely understand them. I understand their motives. I don’t think they felt any pangs of conscience, and in their place I wouldn’t have felt pangs of conscience. Without that act, they would not have won the war and the state would not have come into being.”

          5- “That is what Zionism faced. A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads. It was necessary to cleanse the villages from which our convoys and our settlements were fired on.”

          6- “I feel sympathy for the Palestinian people, which truly underwent a hard tragedy. I feel sympathy for the refugees themselves. But if the desire to establish a Jewish state here is legitimate, there was no other choice. It was impossible to leave a large fifth column in the country. From the moment the Yishuv [pre-1948 Jewish community in Palestine] was attacked by the Palestinians and afterward by the Arab states, there was no choice but to expel the Palestinian population. To uproot it in the course of war.”

          7- “If he was already engaged in expulsion, maybe he should have done a complete job. I know that this stuns the Arabs and the liberals and the politically correct types. But my feeling is that this place would be quieter and know less suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all. If Ben-Gurion had carried out a large expulsion and cleansed the whole country – the whole Land of Israel, as far as the Jordan River. It may yet turn out that this was his fatal mistake. If he had carried out a full expulsion – rather than a partial one – he would have stabilized the State of Israel for generations.”

          8- “I assert that a mistake was made here. Yes. The non-completion of the transfer was a mistake.” ” Transfer (expulsion) was inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism—because it sought to transform a land which was ‘Arab’ into a ‘Jewish’ state and a Jewish state could not have arisen without a major displacement of Arab population.”

          9- “Ben Gurion especially would lie quite bluntly to lots of people about lots of things in the course of ’48 and feel good about it, because he knew that it was much more important, morally speaking, to assure the survival of his people and of his state than to speak truthfully to some guy from Turkey or France.”

          10- “And what this has led me to conclude is that in 1948, it would probably have been better for everybody to have had all the Palestinians cross the Jordan River rather than having many of them stay on the Israeli side at the end of the war. In other words, if Israel had been established on all the territory between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River and the Palestinians had crossed the river and turned Transjordan into a state of their own, both peoples would have probably been happier, and the Middle East would certainly have been a pleasanter place over the next fifty years.”

      • Helen4Yemen

        Here is a great link that will educate you on the deception, intimidation, bribery, that American Jews engaged in to steal Palestine. They even disguised their voice to sound like Truman and threatened many nations with cancellation of promised funds unless they voted for the Jewish state. Well, it is posted at none other than the Truman Online Library.

        https://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/wright.htm

      • Helen4Yemen

        Here is a great link that will educate you on the deception, intimidation, bribery, that American Jews engaged in to steal Palestine. They even disguised their voice to sound like Truman and threatened many nations with cancellation of promised American funds unless they voted for the Jewish state. Well, it is posted at none other than the Truman Online Library.

        https://www.*trumanlibrary.*org/oralhist/wright.*htm (remove *)

      • Helen4Yemen

        Can you please go on record as to why Palestine is ‘Jewish homeland’?

        Is it because of these?

        Numbers 33:52 you must force out the people living there. Destroy their idols and tear down their altars. 53 Then settle in the land—I have given it to you as your own.

        Deuteronomy 12:5 Soon you will cross the Jordan, and the Lord will help you conquer your enemies and let you live in peace, there in the land he has given you.

        Deuteronomy 7:1 People of Israel, the Lord your God will help you take the land of the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. These seven nations have more people and are stronger than Israel, but when you attack them, 2 the Lord will force them out of the land. Then you must destroy them without mercy. Don’t make any peace treaties with them, 3 and don’t let your sons and daughters marry any of them.

    • Helen4Yemen

      1. Does the term ‘apartheid’ fit Israel? Of course it does.
      Los Angeles Times May 17, 2014

      2. It’s Time to Admit It. Israeli Policy Is What It Is: Apartheid
      Haaretz Aug 17, 2015

      3.Israeli Apartheid ‘Much Worse’ Than South Africa
      Noam Chomsky – Aug 25, 2015

      4. Veteran South African activist Denis Goldberg Israel ‘an apartheid state’
      Middleeastmonitor Jul 28, 2015

      5. The tribulations of being an Ethiopian Jew
      IRSN 9 February 2012

      6. Under Israeli Apartheid, Palestinians Cannot Ride Israeli Buses
      Counterpunch OCTOBER 28, 2014

      7. Israel an apartheid state? A majority of Jews say yes!
      RT .com

      8. Apartheid in the Holy Land Desmond Tutu
      The Guardian April 28, 2002

      • peepsqueek

        Do you want to have a war with what I pull up in the Islamic websites?

    • Helen4Yemen

      Desmond Tutu : ” I have been to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, and I have witnessed the racially segregated roads and housing that reminded me so much of the conditions we experienced in South Africa under the racist system of Apartheid. I have witnessed the humiliation of Palestinian men, women, and children made to wait hours at Israeli military checkpoints routinely when trying to make the most basic of trips to visit relatives or attend school or college, and this humiliation is familiar to me and the many black South Africans who were corralled and regularly insulted by the security forces of the Apartheid government.”

      In an April 2010 open letter to the University of Berkeley

    • Helen4Yemen

      Google => “Israel’s humiliating discrimination against Arab Jews – Telegraph’

    • Helen4Yemen

      1. Thousands in Jerusalem Protest Racism Against Ethiopian Jews – Haaretz – January 18, 2012
      2. Separate, but not equal treatment plagues Israel’s Ethiopian Jews – The Times of Israel – May 5, 2015
      3. Ethiopians in Israel: Separate, but not equal The Jerusalem Post – Jul 11, 2015
      4. Israel’s Disgustingly Racist Behavior Towards Ethiopian Jews – thedailybanter – Jan 30, 2013
      5. Israel: promised land for Jews as long as they’re not black? middleeastmonitor – Jun 24, 2012
      6. Ethiopia demands explanation from Israel for racism Ynetnews – May 10, 2015
      7. The plight of Ethiopian Jews in Israel – BBC News – May 25, 2015
      8. Israel: A disturbing discrimination against Ethiopian Jews theafricareport – Feb 5, 2013
      9. Ethiopian Jews are facing prejudice and police brutality Newsweek – May 19, 2015 .
      10. Racism, imperialism and Israel – Workers World – May 14, 2015
      11. The plight of Ethiopian Jews in Israel – BBC News – May 25, 2015

    • Helen4Yemen

      1- Israels forced birth control to Ethiopian Jews — Worldbulletin
      2- Israel Admits Ethiopian Women Were Given Birth Control Shots — Haaretz
      3- An Inconveivable Crime Israel’s patronizing and inhumane treatment of Ethiopian women is nothing new — Haaretz
      4- State of Israel forced the sterilization of Ethiopian women — Intrepidreport
      5- Ethiopian women in Israel ‘given contraceptive without consent’ — Independent
      6- Israel Forcibly Injected African Immigrants with Birth Control — Forbes
      7- Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent — Independent

    • Helen4Yemen

      1. Ethiopian In Israeli Riot Over Dumping of Donated Blood – The New York Times – Jan 29, 1996 –
      2. Black Israelis riot over insult to their blood – The Independent -Jan 28, 1996
      3. Ethiopians outraged over blood disposal – Ynetnews – Nov 1, 2006 –
      4. Israel refuses blood donation from Ethiopian-born lawmaker -Maannews – Dec 16, 2013
      5. Ethiopian Israelis Protest Discarding Of Blood Donations -Chicago Tribune – 29, 1996
      6. Israeli Lawmaker Blood Rejected -Time – Dec 12, 2013
      7. Israel spurns blood of lawmaker -Democratic Underground – Dec 18, 2013
      8. MDA reject blood of MK of Ethiopian decent -Ynetnews – Dec 11, 2013

  • Helen4Yemen

    Can people please look at the pictures of the ‘Israelites’ displayed on this article.

    To me, they have no resemblance to any people of the ME region.

    To me, they look as European as George Bush.

    They look as alien on the land of Palestine as the

    British tourists do in Thailand.

    What say you?

    • garybkatz

      It’s none of your business, now is it? We don’t need your permission or approval to return to our ancestral homeland. We don’t need anybody’s.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Then why aren’t you moving to the Ukraine?

        • garybkatz

          Prior to 1948, Jews in Ukraine and elsewhere were told to “Go back to Palestine.” Since then, Israelis are told to move back to Europe. Make up your bigoted minds already!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you aware that European Jews have more than 40 genetic diseases that no other Jews have? While testing for these diseases, genetics scientists discovered that only European Jews were carriers of these Genetic diseases and no Arab Jews were. Test after test revealed that the Arab Jews were free of these diseases. What does that tell you? It tells you scientifically that there is no genetic connection between the white European Jews and the Semitic Jews of the M/E. European Jews are European from time immemorial. Not a single European Jew is a Semite. The Arab Jews are Semites. That is the truth and the undisputed truth.

            Google=>Ashkenazi Genetic diseases

          • garybkatz

            Since they didn’t have genetic testing 2000 years ago, we don’t know how or when Ashkenazi Jews picked up certain genetic traits. BTW, I wonder if there’s a genetic reason for Jew hatred? Or is it merely jealousy?

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            For Jews hating other people enough to genocidal country stealing? But only the thugs of the Ashkenazi are like that, so such evil cannot be descended from Palestine and Arab Jews, only from Khazars.

          • Pepper Wingate

            That’s a broad condemnation. I would have thought if it was directed at Arabs (which might be equally valid) it would constitute a racial slur.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You are ignoring the fact that was the European Zionist thugs that invaded the genuinely Semite people of Palestine to do hateful genocidal country stealing.

          • Pepper Wingate

            I ignored nothing! You are using a broad brush to spread your racism!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So then you admit that the Zionist thugs invaded the genuinely Semite people of Palestine to do hateful genocidal country stealing. Good for you!

            But it’s kind of nonsensical to accuse me of racism because I merely state historical fact.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Impossible to go up against genetic science!

            38 Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Diseases. The carrier rates for Arab Jews is the same as that of the general population, which is very rare. The Ashkenazi have zero genetic relation with Arab Jews. The numbers within parenthesis are the carrier rates for the Ashkenazi.

            1 Bloom Syndrome ( 1/134 )
            2 Canavan Disease ( 1/55 )
            3 Cystic Fibrosis ( 1/24 )
            4 Familial Dysautonomia ( 1/31 )
            5 Familial Hyperinsulinism ( 1/68 )
            6 Fanconi Anemia C ( 1/100 )
            7 Gaucher Disease ( 1/15 )
            8 Glycogen Storage Disease 1A ( 1/64 )
            9 Joubert Syndrome 2 ( 1/110 )
            10 Lipoamide Dehydrogenase Deficiency (E3) ( 1/107 )
            11 Maple Syrup Urine Disease 1B ( 1/97 )
            12 Mucolipidosis IV ( 1/89 )
            13 Nemaline Myopathy ( 1/168 )
            14 Niemann-Pick Disease ( 1/115 )
            15 Spinal Muscular Atrophy ( 1/41 )
            16 Tay-Sachs Disease ( 1/27 )
            17 Usher IF ( 1/147 )
            18 Usher III ( 1/120 )
            19 Walker Warburg ( 1/120 )
            20 3-Phosphoglycerate Dehydrogenase Deficiency ( 1/280 )
            21 Abetalipoproteinemia ( 1/180 )
            22 Alport Syndrome, Autosomal Recessive ( 1/188 )
            23 Arthrogryposis, Mental Retardation and Seizures ( 1/373 )
            24 Bardet-Biedl Syndrome ( 1/107 )
            25 Carnitine Palmitoyltransferase ll Deficiency ( 1/51 )
            26 Congenital Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia ( 1/55 )
            27 Congenital Disorder of Glycosylation la ( 1/57 )
            28 Dyskeratosis Congenita, Autosomal Recessive ( 1/203 )
            29 Ehlers-Danlos VllC ( 1/248 )
            30 Fragile X Syndrome ( 1/115 )
            31 Galactosemia ( 1/172 )
            32 Multiple Sulphatase Deficiency ( 1/320 )
            33 Polycystic Kidney Disease, Autosomal Recessive ( 1/107 )
            34 Retinitis Pigmentosa 59 ( 1/118 )
            35 Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome ( 1/36 )
            36 Tyrosinemia l ( 1/150 )
            37 Wilson Disease ( 1/70 )
            38 Zellweger Syndrome ( 1/172 )

          • Pepper Wingate

            You do realise that most of those were discovered and many named by Jewish doctors. What have your people added to medical science? Since the first millennium.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Since you are deflecting, it means you do not dispute the information presented.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Can’t respond, can you!

          • Pepper Wingate

            Are you aware that that narrow gene pool has more to do with the persecution Jews experienced in Europe and the number of Jewish people murdered over that time which reduced the genetic diversity? Yes, I think you do but you eliminated that to make your point.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Since you are only deflecting, it means you do not dispute the information presented.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Right back at you!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So what? It was your myth they were responding to.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- Would the Europeans distinguish between Hillary Clinton and Tzipi Livny?

            2- Would the Europeans distinguish between David Duke and Michael Oren (Bornstein)?

            Aren’t the Ashkenazi indistinguishable from the Europeans and they look just as European as the rest of the Europeans? Yes or no?

      • Helen4Yemen

        But the problem is that on your ‘ancestral homeland’, you stick out as aliens, as Europeans, just like the British tourists do in Kenya!
        Haha! I laughed!

      • Helen4Yemen

        But-but, the question was:

        Do any of the Europeans on the picture of the article look like people from the ME region? Yes or no?

    • d gitalgravity

      Majority of Israelis are from Middle East and never lived in Europe or elsewhere.
      Ashkenazi Jews only make up 2.8 million out of 8.5 million citizens of Israel
      And despite the fact some of the Ashkenazi Jews have lighter skin ( because they lived in exile for a long time) majority still have Middle Eastern features, like nose and hair…..so stop with your lies already.

      • Helen4Yemen

        “Contemporary Jewry is comprised of ~13 million people, of whom 5.7 million reside in the United States and 4.7 million reside in Israel, with the remainder living throughout the world .
        Among the Jews of the United States,
        90% are of Ashkenazi origin.

        Among the Jews of Israel
        47% are of Ashkenazi,
        30% of Sephardic
        23% of Oriental origin”.

        Source: nature. com

        • d gitalgravity

          I already told you ….the correct number of Ashkenazim Jews in Israel is 2.8 million which is 32%
          Look it up on Wikipedia, liar.

      • Helen4Yemen

        You have the Ashkenazi as 32% and Nature dot com has them at 47%!

        Why do you want to exaggerate the numbers of Arab Jews in Palestine and diminish that of the Ashkenazi? Must remember that Zionism was 100% about Ashkenazi and 0% about Arab Jews.

        • d gitalgravity

          Google Ashkenazi on Wikipedia , and you will see that the number is 2.8 million , and you will get the correct census ….so please enough with your lies.

          You know zero about Zionism moron, and even less about Arab Jews….so stick with what you know best racist jihad hatred of Jews.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- The Right’s Latest Weapon: ‘Zionist Editing’ on Wikipedia ( Haaretz )
            2- Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups ( The Guardian )
            3- Manipulating Wikipedia Content: Israeli Program to Train Editors to Ensure that “What is Written” is “Zionist in Nature” ( GlobalResearch )
            4- A pro-Israel group’s plan to rewrite history on Wikipedia ( Eloctronic Intifada )
            5- Wikipedia Editing for Zionists ( Thelede )
            6- Biased Wikipedia editing in Israel raises concerns of political meddling ( France24 )
            7- There is increasing evidence that Wikipedia is being troll edited by individuals on the payroll of the Israeli government ( Wayne Madison )
            8- The Poison Pill of Israeli, and Wikipedia Censorship ( Richard Silverstein )

          • d gitalgravity

            They quote the source of the census moron that gave them that number.

            If anyone fakes statistics and Wikopedia it’s brainwashed, Jihadi, Arab liars like you

          • Helen4Yemen

            From the Guardian

            Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups

            Rachel Shabi in Jerusalem and Jemima Kiss

            Wednesday 18 August 2010

            Two Israeli groups set up training courses in Wikipedia editing with aims to ‘show the other side’ over borders and culture

            An Israeli flag in the former Gaza Strip settlement of Neve Dekalim
            Two Israeli groups have set up ‘Zionist editing’ courses with aims to alter perceptions about Israel.

            Since the earliest days of the worldwide web, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians has seen its rhetorical counterpart fought out on the talkboards and chatrooms of the internet.

            Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in “Zionist editing” for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

            Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site.

            “We don’t want to change Wikipedia or turn it into a propaganda arm,” says Naftali Bennett, director of the Yesha Council. “We just want to show the other side. People think that Israelis are mean, evil people who only want to hurt Arabs all day.”

            Wikipedia is one of the world’s most popular websites, and its 16m entries are open for anyone to edit, rewrite or even erase. The problem, according to Ayelet Shaked of Israel Sheli, is that online, pro-Israeli activists are vastly outnumbered by pro-Palestinian voices. “We don’t want to give this arena to the other side,” she said. “But we are so few and they are so many. People in the US and Europe never hear about Israel’s side, with all the correct arguments and explanations.”

            Like others involved with this project, Shaked thinks that her government is “not doing a very good job” of explaining Israel to the world.

            And on Wikipedia, they believe that there is much work to do.

            Take the page on Israel, for a start: “The map of Israel is portrayed without the Golan heights or Judea and Samaria,” said Bennett, referring to the annexed Syrian territory and the West Bank area occupied by Israel in 1967.

            Another point of contention is the reference to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel – a status that is constantly altered on Wikipedia.

            Other pages subject to constant re-editing include one titled Goods allowed/banned for import into Gaza – which is now being considered for deletion – and a page on the Palestinian territories.

            Then there is the problem of what to call certain neighbourhoods. “Is Ariel a city or a settlement?” asks Shaked of the area currently described by Wikipedia as “an Israeli settlement and a city in the central West Bank.” That question is the subject of several thousand words of heated debate on a Wikipedia discussion thread.

            The idea, says Shaked and her colleauges, is not to storm in, cause havoc and get booted out – the Wikipedia editing community is sensitive, consensus-based and it takes time to build trust.

            “We learned what not to do: don’t jump into deep waters immediately, don’t be argumentative, realise that there is a semi-democratic community out there, realise how not to get yourself banned,” says Yisrael Medad, one of the course participants, from Shiloh.

            Is that Shiloh in the occupied West Bank? “No,” he sighs, patiently. “That’s Shiloh in the Binyamin region across the Green Line, or in territories described as disputed.”

            One Jerusalem-based Wikipedia editor, who doesn’t want to be named, said that publicising the initiative might not be such a good idea. “Going public in the past has had a bad effect,” she says. “There is a war going on and unfortunately the way to fight it has to be underground.”

            In 2008, members of the hawkish pro-Israel watchdog Camera who secretly planned to edit Wikipedia were banned from the site by administrators.

            Meanwhile, Yesha is building an information taskforce to engage with new media, by posting to sites such as Facebook and YouTube, and claims to have 12,000 active members, with up to 100 more signing up each month. “It turns out there is quite a thirst for this activity,” says Bennett. “The Israeli public is frustrated with the way it is portrayed abroad.”

            The organisiers of the Wikipedia courses, are already planning a competition to find the “Best Zionist editor”, with a prize of a hot-air balloon trip over Israel.

            Wikipedia wars

            There are frequent flare-ups between competing volunteer editors and obsessives who run Wikipedia. As well as conflicts over editing bias and “astroturfing” PR attempts, articles are occasionally edited to catch out journalists; the Independent recently erroneously published that the Big Chill had started life as the Wanky Balls festival. In 2005 the founding editorial director of USA Today, John Seigenthaler, discovered his Wikipedia entry included the claim that he was involved in the assassination of JFK.

            Editors can remain anonymous when changing content, but conflicts are passed to Wikipedia’s arbitration committee. Scientology was a regular source of conflict until the committee blocked editing by the movement.

            Critics cite the editing problems as proof of a flawed site that can be edited by almost anybody, but its defenders claim the issues are tiny compared with its scale. Wikipedia now has versions in 271 languages and 379 million users a month.

          • Helen4Yemen

            From the Guardian (part 1)

            Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups

            Rachel Shabi in Jerusalem and Jemima Kiss

            Wednesday 18 August 2010

            Two Israeli groups set up training courses in Wikipedia editing with aims to ‘show the other side’ over borders and culture

            An Israeli flag in the former Gaza Strip settlement of Neve Dekalim
            Two Israeli groups have set up ‘Zionist editing’ courses with aims to alter perceptions about Israel.

            Since the earliest days of the worldwide web, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians has seen its rhetorical counterpart fought out on the talkboards and chatrooms of the internet.

            Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in “Zionist editing” for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

            Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site.

            “We don’t want to change Wikipedia or turn it into a propaganda arm,” says Naftali Bennett, director of the Yesha Council. “We just want to show the other side. People think that Israelis are mean, evil people who only want to hurt Arabs all day.”

            Wikipedia is one of the world’s most popular websites, and its 16m entries are open for anyone to edit, rewrite or even erase. The problem, according to Ayelet Shaked of Israel Sheli, is that online, pro-Israeli activists are vastly outnumbered by pro-Palestinian voices. “We don’t want to give this arena to the other side,” she said. “But we are so few and they are so many. People in the US and Europe never hear about Israel’s side, with all the correct arguments and explanations.”

          • d gitalgravity

            I guess cutting and pasting lies is all you are good for

          • Helen4Yemen

            From the Guardian (part 2)

            Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups

            Like others involved with this project, Shaked thinks that her government is “not doing a very good job” of explaining Israel to the world.

            And on Wikipedia, they believe that there is much work to do.

            Take the page on Israel, for a start: “The map of Israel is portrayed without the Golan heights or Judea and Samaria,” said Bennett, referring to the annexed Syrian territory and the West Bank area occupied by Israel in 1967.

            Another point of contention is the reference to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel – a status that is constantly altered on Wikipedia.

            Other pages subject to constant re-editing include one titled Goods allowed/banned for import into Gaza – which is now being considered for deletion – and a page on the Palestinian territories.

            Then there is the problem of what to call certain neighbourhoods. “Is Ariel a city or a settlement?” asks Shaked of the area currently described by Wikipedia as “an Israeli settlement and a city in the central West Bank.” That question is the subject of several thousand words of heated debate on a Wikipedia discussion thread.

            The idea, says Shaked and her colleauges, is not to storm in, cause havoc and get booted out – the Wikipedia editing community is sensitive, consensus-based and it takes time to build trust.

            “We learned what not to do: don’t jump into deep waters immediately, don’t be argumentative, realise that there is a semi-democratic community out there, realise how not to get yourself banned,” says Yisrael Medad, one of the course participants, from Shiloh.

            Is that Shiloh in the occupied West Bank? “No,” he sighs, patiently. “That’s Shiloh in the Binyamin region across the Green Line, or in territories described as disputed.”

            One Jerusalem-based Wikipedia editor, who doesn’t want to be named, said that publicising the initiative might not be such a good idea. “Going public in the past has had a bad effect,” she says. “There is a war going on and unfortunately the way to fight it has to be underground.”

            In 2008, members of the hawkish pro-Israel watchdog Camera who secretly planned to edit Wikipedia were banned from the site by administrators.

            Meanwhile, Yesha is building an information taskforce to engage with new media, by posting to sites such as Facebook and YouTube, and claims to have 12,000 active members, with up to 100 more signing up each month. “It turns out there is quite a thirst for this activity,” says Bennett. “The Israeli public is frustrated with the way it is portrayed abroad.”

            The organisiers of the Wikipedia courses, are already planning a competition to find the “Best Zionist editor”, with a prize of a hot-air balloon trip over Israel.

            Wikipedia wars

            There are frequent flare-ups between competing volunteer editors and obsessives who run Wikipedia. As well as conflicts over editing bias and “astroturfing” PR attempts, articles are occasionally edited to catch out journalists; the Independent recently erroneously published that the Big Chill had started life as the Wanky Balls festival. In 2005 the founding editorial director of USA Today, John Seigenthaler, discovered his Wikipedia entry included the claim that he was involved in the assassination of JFK.

            Editors can remain anonymous when changing content, but conflicts are passed to Wikipedia’s arbitration committee. Scientology was a regular source of conflict until the committee blocked editing by the movement.

            Critics cite the editing problems as proof of a flawed site that can be edited by almost anybody, but its defenders claim the issues are tiny compared with its scale. Wikipedia now has versions in 271 languages and 379 million users a month.

          • d gitalgravity

            There is no point for people who contribute to Wikipedia, with reference to real census, to fake population numbers.
            You’re just grasping at straws ….you are just a Jews hater who is too feeble minded to understand that she is dead wrong.

      • Helen4Yemen

        I was referring to the Europeans displayed on the picture:

        a) They look Asian
        b) They look MEastern
        c)They look Chinese
        d) They look European
        e)They look African

        What is your answer? Let me guess? You are not going to answer since
        the answer is not the one you would like to be. Haha!

        • d gitalgravity

          As I told you the there are only 2.8 million Ashkenazi Jews living in Israel out of over 8.5 million Israelis, (32%) that is a fact.

    • Snag

      You are as obsessed with race and colour as the KKK and the Nazi Party. Nice company you keep.

      • Helen4Yemen

        The Ashkenazi does claim to originate from Palestine, right?
        But he is a white man, right? How is that possible? Can George Bush claim to originate from Palestine? Isn’t the Ashkenazi just as European as George Bush?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Dr. Blake Alcott: The Zionist project was never primarily about a literal safe haven in

    Palestine but rather about the collective ‘self-determination’ of a group of modern

    European colonial-settlers, while historically the Jews as a group flourished

    throughout the Arab and Islamic worlds.

    ______________

    Dr. Blake Alcott: Liberal Zionism’s last step towards honesty about the historical truth

    could be explicitly to concede that the persecution of Jews happened in Europe and

    not under Islam and had nothing to do with Palestine, Palestinians and the Arab world.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Who is a ‘Jew’? Look at the pictures of the link below and tell me

    https://worldpeace365.*files.wordpress.*com/2016/02/compare109.*png?w=1496

    • garybkatz

      Who’s a Muslim? Do you propose DNA tests to determine who should control the 50-some Muslim countries? Or who should be allowed into Mecca? Why are you concerning yourself with Jewish identity? Were you thinking of converting?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Tell me how the Ashkenazi is connected to Palestine?

        a) Is it because God gave land to future European converts?
        b)Is it because white Europeans are only ‘returning’?
        c)The European holocaust?

        Tell me?

      • Helen4Yemen

        Aha, the Muslims are like the Christians and the Jews composed of many races from Africa, to Asia to Europe to the ME and the Americas. The problem is that the Jew claims to be made up of one race. Funny, very funny that the Nigerian, the Yemeni, the German, the Chinese, the Ugandan Jews could all be one race. Very funny! And white Jews despise all dark skinned Jews.

        • garybkatz

          The ultimate proof that Jews are a people might be that Jews of all appearances share similar traits of creativity, intelligence, and achievement. You could not name another group in the world that has over achieved, given their small numbers, like the Jews. Mark Twain took note, and he was obviously a lot smarter than you: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Quote/TwainJews.html

          • Helen4Yemen

            You left out a lot. Here are more quotes from that exact document by Mark Twain:

            __ ” For the like reasons Spain had to banish him four hundred years ago, and Austria about a couple of centuries later. In all the ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his activities. If he entered upon a mechanical trade, the Christian had to retire from it. If he set up as a doctor, he was the best one, and he took the business. If he exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else. Since there was no way to successfully compete with him in any vocation, the law had to step in and save the Christian from the poor-house.
            __ ” In the cotton States, after the war, the simple and ignorant negroes made the crops for the white planter on shares. The Jew came down in force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the negro’s wants on credit, and at the end of the season was proprietor of the negro’s share of the present crop and of part of his share of the next one. Before long, the whites detested the Jew, and it is doubtful if the negro loved him.
            __ ” In the dull and ignorant England of John’s time everybody got into debt to the Jew. He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands; he was the king of commerce; he was ready to be helpful in all profitable ways; he even financed crusades for the rescue of the Sepulchre. To wipe out his account with the nation and restore business to its natural and incompetent channels he had to be banished the realm.
            __ ” Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money, even ways to get rich. Also ways to invest his takings well, for usury was not denied him. In the hard conditions suggested, the Jew without brains could not survive, and the Jew with brains had to keep them in good training and well sharpened up, or starve. Ages of restriction to the one tool which the law was not able to take from him – his brain – have made that tool singularly competent; ages of compulsory disuse of his hands have atrophied them, and he never uses them now.
            __ ” The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant and villager stood no chance against his commercial abilities. He was always ready to lend money on a crop, and sell vodka and other necessaries of life on credit while the crop was growing. When settlement day came he owned the crop; and next year or year after he owned the farm, like Joseph.
            __ ” Trade after trade was taken away from the Jew by statute till practically none was left. He was forbidden to engage in agriculture; he was forbidden to practise law; he was forbidden to practise medicine, except among Jews; he was forbidden the handicrafts. Even the seats of learning and the schools of science had to be closed against this tremendous antagonist.
            __ ” Speaking of concentration, Dr. Herzl has a clear insight into the value of that. Have you heard of his plan? He wishes to gather the Jews of the world together in Palestine, with a government of their own – under the suzerainty of the Sultan, I suppose. At the Convention of Berne, last year, there were delegates from everywhere, and the proposal was received with decided favor. I am not the Sultan, and I am not objecting; but if that concentration of the cunningest brains in the world were going to be made in a free country (bar Scotland), I think it would be politic to stop it. It will not be well to let the race find out its strength. If the horses knew theirs, we should not ride any more. (Mark Twain: Concerning The Jews, Harper’s Magazine, March, 1898)

          • garybkatz

            If you’re going to cherry pick the full text, you might as well read the full text, in context: http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1898twain-jews.asp
            Commentary on Twain’s relationship with the Jews illustrates that whatever negative things he said were based on ignorance. When he learned actual facts, he retracted negative statements: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/twain.html
            Sorry to disappoint you, but in the end, Twain admired the Jews. Unlike you, he had an open mind. If he met you, he would probably write an essay about you, and it wouldn’t be too flattering, I’m afraid.

          • America Firster

            Profiting from the skill and labor of others is not achieving.

          • garybkatz

            Yeah, those copycats Einstein, Freud, Spinoza, etc. should apologize for stealing your ideas. All those Nobel prizes gotta be returned.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Including the ones to Kissinger and Obama?

            Was Heisenberg Jewish?

          • garybkatz

            How little you understand us: http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/the-greatest-response-to-jew-hatred-i-have-ever-seen/
            How little you understand.

          • America Firster

            Ah. The Nobel prizes. Can’t go long without mentioning them, can we? Look at the top Jews Adelson, Wynn, Soros, Saban. Singer, Bloomberg. Each and every one a conman.

          • garybkatz

            Saban? You mean the inventor of one of the polio vaccines? Did he con you out of getting polio? You forgot Steven Speilberg, who conned you into watching all his great movies. Siegel and Shuster, who conned millions of people into buying “Superman” comic books. Bob Dylan, Irving Berlin, The Three Stooges, The Marx Brothers (not Karl, although he was Jewish too), Houdini, Salk (another polio hero), Levi Strauss (ever wear his jeans?), Bohr, Arthur Miller, Kafka, Marc Chagall, and countless others you probably didn’t even realize were members of the Tribe(s). We’re not perfect, but we overachieve, given our small numbers, and we don’t owe you an apology for doing so, nor do we need your approval or permission. If we underachieved, no doubt you would call us lazy. You just can’t please some people. I think YOU’RE the con man. We’ve seen your type for about 2000 years. Same stench as always, blaming another group for your own inadequacies. Sadly, the main person you successfully conned was yourself. Such a waste.

          • garybkatz

            http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/219794
            You’re welcome. If the “Palestabians” had won, you’d be lucky if they produced an innovation in rubbers.

        • garybkatz

          All people arose from the same region, yet spread out and became quite different. Your attempt to distinguish Jews from each other is silly and ignorant, and belies actual genetic research: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

  • Richard Galber

    So who was the activist who said their was no danger.
    Danger and fear are perceived differently by different people at different times.
    Also there were issues at different parts of the campus at different times in the evening, and that activist was not at all of them.
    Your diatribes Ben seem to be losing their edge; I used to enjoy them their for their unabashed vitriol, now they are just a bit boring
    No-platforming the opposition by screaming and shouting to stop them speaking is a form of violence as well as a form of extremely intolerant bigotry that has no place on any university campus by anyone at any time

    • Helen4Yemen

      Why don’t you tell us what you disagree with by giving us a couple of quotes?

  • Blake

    The one on the right looks like a botched experiment

    • Helen4Yemen

      Hehe! I saw that!

    • Helen4Yemen

      Hehe! I saw that!

  • garybkatz

    An anti-Zionist is someone who believes that every ethnic group and religion in the world is entitled to their ancestral homeland…except the Jews.

    • Helen4Yemen

      But do you really believe that Palestine inhabited by people of color could
      possibly be the homeland of lily-white European Ashkenazi? Then if one told
      you that Nigerians actually originate from Norway, you will have no problem
      believing? Note: 90% of world Jewry is European Ashkenazi.

      • garybkatz

        2000 years of exile will do that. BTW, haven’t you ever seen “Palestinians” with blue eyes and blondish hair? I sure have.

        • Helen4Yemen

          2000 years will do what?

          Make the African Jews look African and
          the Chinese Jews look Chinese and
          the European Jews look indistinguishable from George Bush
          and Arab Jews look just like their Arab brothers?
          Are you saying ‘Jews’ know how to morph to look like the
          people they live surrounded by? Can we then expect the
          Ashkenazi in Palestine to resemble the Arabs in 2000 years?
          Oh, I laughed at the last question…

          • garybkatz

            Uh, have any of them been exiled to other continents for 2000 years? Besides, you would hate Israel even if every Jew living there was olive skinned with dark eyes.

          • Helen4Yemen

            “Olive skin”? I hear that only from the Ashkenazi.
            They also say, ‘Mediterranean’? Mediterranean quite
            a long ways away from Russia and Lithuania, no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?

          • garybkatz

            Your pal Hitler didn’t worry about such things; he considered the Jews one race. If only you’d been there to tell him the Jews were disparate…

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Still deflecting… pathetically.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha! He/she is smart! He can’t answer ‘yes’, because the Ashkenazi are known to
            despise people of color and especially Africans – and he cannot answer ‘no’, then he worries about excludes black Jews out on a public forum — therefore, at first, he just does not answer it and when pressed to answer it deflects – haha!

          • Helen4Yemen

            He/she is smart! He can’t answer ‘yes’, because the Ashkenazi are known to
            despise people of color and especially Africans – and he cannot answer ‘no’, then he worries about excludes black Jews out on a public forum — therefore, at first, he just does not answer it and when pressed to answer it deflects – haha!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha. He/she is smart! He can’t answer ‘yes’, because the Ashkenazi are known to
            despise people of color and especially Africans – and he cannot answer ‘no’, then he
            __________
            worries about excludes black Jews out on a public forum — therefore, at first, he just does not answer it and when pressed to answer it deflects – haha!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Haha. He/she is smart! He can’t answer ‘yes’, because the Ashkenazi are known to
            despise people of color and especially Africans – and he cannot answer ‘no’, then he
            worries about excludes black Jews out on a public forum

          • Helen4Yemen

            He worries about excluding black Jews out on a public forum — therefore, at first, he just does not answer it and when pressed to answer it deflects –

          • Helen4Yemen

            3rd time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?

            Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did Hitler consider the Ugandan Jew a black person or a Jew?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Would Hitler be able to distinguish on facial appearance between
            Hillary Clinton and Tzili Livini?

            Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            2nd time: Is the German Jew genetically related to the Ugandan Jew?

          • Pepper Wingate

            And you say “it’s not about race”! You, girl, are racist!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, since you are avoiding answering the question, the only answer is ‘no’. White Jews would never accept black African Jews to be their blood relatives.

          • Pepper Wingate

            How you manage to type is beyond understanding.

          • Mike Abramov

            You bet she is. I thought all this stuff ended after the Nurenburg Trials.

          • Mike Abramov

            YAWN!!!

          • Eric11210

            Yes.

          • America Firster

            Every Jew living there pre Zionism was indeed Semitic and guess what. Nobody hated them.

          • garybkatz

            Google massacres of Jews in the Middle East, to see how wrong you are. Even the Crusaders went out of their way to kill innocent Jews. Nobody ever needed a reason to hate Jews. They just needed hate.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Do you see that the Ashkenazi was expelled from Europe 108 times and from Arab countries only after the Euro-Jew stole Palestine?
            __
            250 – Carthage 415 – Alexandria 554 – Diocèse of Clermont (France) 561 – Diocèse of Uzès (France) 612 – Visigoth Spain 642 – Visigoth Empire 855 – Italy 876 – Sens 1012 – Mainz 1182 – France 1182 – Germany 1276 – Upper Bavaria 1290 – England 1306 – France 1322 – France (again) 1348 – Switzerland 1349 – Hielbronn (Germany) 1349 – Saxony 1349 – Hungary 1360 – Hungary 1370 – Belgium 1380 – Slovakia 1388 – Strasbourg 1394 – Germany 1394 – France 1420 – Lyons 1421 – Austria 1424 – Fribourg 1424 – Zurich 1424 – Cologne 1432 – Savoy 1438 – Mainz 1439 – Augsburg 1442 – Netherlands 1444 – Netherlands 1446 – Bavaria 1453 – France 1453 – Breslau 1454 – Wurzburg 1462 – Mainz 1483 – Mainz 1484 – Warsaw 1485 – Vincenza (Italy) 1492 – Spain 1492 – Italy 1495 – Lithuania 1496 – Naples 1496 – Portugal 1498 – Nuremberg 1498 – Navarre 1510 – Brandenberg 1510 – Prussia 1514 – Strasbourg 1515 – Genoa 1519 – Regensburg 1533 – Naples 1541 – Naples 1542 – Prague & Bohemia 1550 – Genoa 1551 – Bavaria 1555 – Pesaro 1557 – Prague 1559 – Austria 1561 – Prague 1567 – Wurzburg 1569 – Papal States 1571 – Brandenburg 1582 – Netherlands 1582 – Hungary 1593 – Brandenburg, Austria 1597 – Cremona, Pavia & Lodi 1614 – Frankfort 1615 – Worms 1619 – Kiev 1648 – Ukraine 1648 – Poland 1649 – Hamburg 1654 – Little Russia (Beylorus) 1656 – Lithuania 1669 – Oran (North Africa) 1669 – Vienna 1670 – Vienna 1712 – Sandomir 1727 – Russia 1738 – Wurtemburg 1740 – Little Russia (Beylorus) 1744 – Prague, Bohemia 1744 – Slovakia 1744 – Livonia 1745 – Moravia 1753 – Kovad (Lithuania) 1761 – Bordeaux 1772 – Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia) 1775 – Warsaw 1789 – Alsace 1804 – Villages in Russia 1808 – Villages & Countrysides (Russia) 1815 – Lbeck & Bremen 1815 – Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria 1820 – Bremen 1843 – Russian Border Austria & Prussia 1862 – Areas in the U.S. under General Grant’s Jurisdiction[1] 1866 – Galatz, Romania 1880s – Russia 1891 – Moscow 1919 – Bavaria (foreign born Jews) 1938-45 – Nazi Controlled Areas
            1948 – Arab Countries

          • peepsqueek

            This is why Jews needed a Jewish State. They were messed over in Europe and they had to maintain a lower status in Islamic controlled countries and territories.

          • peepsqueek

            This is why Jews needed a Jewish State. They were messed over in Europe and they had to maintain a lower status in Islamic controlled countries and territories.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Do you see that the Ashkenazi was expelled from Europe 108 times and from Arab countries only after the Euro-Jew stole Palestine?
            __
            250 – Carthage 415 – Alexandria 554 – Diocèse of Clermont (France) 561 – Diocèse of Uzès (France) 612 – Visigoth Spain 642 – Visigoth Empire 855 – Italy 876 – Sens 1012 – Mainz 1182 – France 1182 – Germany 1276 – Upper Bavaria 1290 – England 1306 – France 1322 – France (again) 1348 – Switzerland 1349 – Hielbronn (Germany) 1349 – Saxony 1349 – Hungary 1360 – Hungary 1370 – Belgium 1380 – Slovakia 1388 – Strasbourg 1394 – Germany 1394 – France 1420 – Lyons 1421 – Austria 1424 – Fribourg 1424 – Zurich 1424 – Cologne 1432 – Savoy 1438 – Mainz 1439 – Augsburg 1442 – Netherlands 1444 – Netherlands 1446 – Bavaria 1453 – France 1453 – Breslau 1454 – Wurzburg 1462 – Mainz 1483 – Mainz 1484 – Warsaw 1485 – Vincenza (Italy) 1492 – Spain 1492 – Italy 1495 – Lithuania 1496 – Naples 1496 – Portugal 1498 – Nuremberg 1498 – Navarre 1510 – Brandenberg 1510 – Prussia 1514 – Strasbourg 1515 – Genoa 1519 – Regensburg 1533 – Naples 1541 – Naples 1542 – Prague & Bohemia 1550 – Genoa 1551 – Bavaria 1555 – Pesaro 1557 – Prague 1559 – Austria 1561 – Prague 1567 – Wurzburg 1569 – Papal States 1571 – Brandenburg 1582 – Netherlands 1582 – Hungary 1593 – Brandenburg, Austria 1597 – Cremona, Pavia & Lodi 1614 – Frankfort 1615 – Worms 1619 – Kiev 1648 – Ukraine 1648 – Poland 1649 – Hamburg 1654 – Little Russia (Beylorus) 1656 – Lithuania 1669 – Oran (North Africa) 1669 – Vienna 1670 – Vienna 1712 – Sandomir 1727 – Russia 1738 – Wurtemburg 1740 – Little Russia (Beylorus) 1744 – Prague, Bohemia 1744 – Slovakia 1744 – Livonia 1745 – Moravia 1753 – Kovad (Lithuania) 1761 – Bordeaux 1772 – Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia) 1775 – Warsaw 1789 – Alsace 1804 – Villages in Russia 1808 – Villages & Countrysides (Russia) 1815 – Lbeck & Bremen 1815 – Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria 1820 – Bremen 1843 – Russian Border Austria & Prussia 1862 – Areas in the U.S. under General Grant’s Jurisdiction[1] 1866 – Galatz, Romania 1880s – Russia 1891 – Moscow 1919 – Bavaria (foreign born Jews) 1938-45 – Nazi Controlled Areas
            1948 – Arab Countries

          • Helen4Yemen

            {Nobody ever needed a reason to hate Jews.}

            It was only the Ashkenazi that faced hatred and not Arab or other Jews.
            ___
            Theodore Herzl : “The Jewish question persists wherever Jews live in appreciable numbers. Wherever it does not exist, it is brought in together with Jewish immigrants.”

          • garybkatz
          • Helen4Yemen

            {Nobody ever needed a reason to hate Jews.}

            It was only the Ashkenazi that faced hatred and not Arab or other Jews.
            ___
            Theodore Herzl : “The Jewish question persists wherever Jews live in appreciable numbers. Wherever it does not exist, it is brought in together with Jewish immigrants.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Ken Livingstone:

            “There were large Arab Jewish communities that never suffered threats or attacks. They lived in peace alongside their Arab neighbors. But all of this was destroyed with the establishment of the State of Israel.”

          • Pepper Wingate

            Unlike those Jews in Hebron who were driven out by their “peaceful” Arab neighbours. Then when the Jordanians occupied the area the Jordanian army bulldozed the Jewish buildings so Jews could never return to their homes. Now there’s a law that proscribes the Death Penalty for Arabs who sell their property to Jews. That’s the only place in Israel where Apartheid prevails.

          • Eric11210

            And if you believe that lie Madame Jihad, perhaps I could interest you in a bridge? It’s got a lovely view of Brooklyn.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The Crusaders were just like the European Zionists. They killed everybody.

            This will be more helpful.

            Rebuttal for ZioNazis claiming that Muslims treated Jews badly

            ->http://www.thejc.COM/comment-and-debate/comment/68082/so-what-did-muslims-do-jews

        • Helen4Yemen

          There are white skinned Arabs – not large in number who have white skin and blue eyes and blond hair. They are not that many they do not have European features as the Ashkenazi do. Here is Assad vs. Putin

        • Helen4Yemen

          There are white skinned Arabs – not large in number who have white skin and blue eyes and blond hair. They are not that many and
          they do not have European facial features as the Ashkenazi do.

          • Eric11210

            Always the same desperate nonsense from Madame Jihad.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Therefore,

          “Israelite” went to Nigeria and morphed into Nigerian ?
          “Israelite” went to Yemen and morphed into Yemeni ?
          “Israelite” went to China and morphed into Chinese ?
          “Israelite” went to Uganda and morphed into Ugandan ?
          “Israelite” went to Europe and morphed into European ?
          “Israelite” went to India and morphed into Indian ?
          “Israelite” went to Nicaragua and morphed into Nicaraguan ?
          “Israelite” went to Ethiopia and morphed into Ethiopian ?
          “Israelite” went to Japan and morphed into Japanese ?
          “Israelite” went to Zimbabwe and morphed into Zimbabwean ?

        • America Firster

          How would 2000 years of exile change the physical appearance of a group? Answer only one way. If that group intermarried with other groups. In which case it is no longer than original group.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Actually, the Ashkenazi did not intermarry with other groups. They were born European from time immemorial. Think about it, if their origin was Palestine and moved to Europe and produced a new generation with the Europeans, there would remain a hint in that bi-racial new generation, even after 2000 years. As it is, the Ashkenazi are indistinguishable from the rest of the Europeans on facial features.

          • garybkatz

            Well, when you produce some photos of what they looked like at the time of their exile, we can talk. Elsewhere in this article I posted a link to a NY Times article about genetic studies that link all Jews around the globe. I don’t expect you to understand.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nobody understands it, because it is fraudulent and can’t be reproduced.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nobody understands it, because it is fraudulent and can’t be reproduced.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But you will make the silly claim that with the transportation available at that time the whole of the people of Palestine were transported to Rome. Hilarious! How silly!

          • garybkatz

            Rome? What are you talking about? Rome exiled them from Israel. They scattered all over.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Baloney! Myths constructed for the gullible. Why would the Romans want to destroy their tax base? When all they needed to do was to remove the hated remnants of the Herodian Dynasty? You Zionist freeks will believe any nonsense that you think justifies your vast crimes against humanity. You are no different from the Nazis tried at Nuremberg and deserve the same treatment.

            You’re going to tell me that the Chinese Jews arose from from the fake “Diaspora”?

          • garybkatz

            Why would the Romans destroy the second Temple when they could just tax it? You don’t know history – you just mouth off in ignorance.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Oh what a liar you are! It was a Roman fort and no second temple ever existed except in the deviously hallucinating minds of Zionist genocidal country stealers.

          • garybkatz

            Boy, are you stupid. How does your brain generate enough impulses to keep you breathing? Every succeeding post from you drops closer to a zero I.Q. I know of a Jew who could’ve possibly helped you, but unfortunately Freud is dead. Perhaps a brain operation could help you, a la “Flowers for Algernon?”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re a very funny boy. Because I reject your silly yammer for the mythology it travels, I’m the one that’s stupid? Ha, ha! You’re even too stupid to do the homework you need to do in order to present a credible story.

            I’m sorry. No brain operation could possibly help you. Your attitudes would immediately foul any cleansing. You are a very sick Zionist fraud pushing genocidal country stealing.

          • garybkatz

            You’re very colorful. Let me get a bowl of popcorn, while you prepare to tell me what really happened on 9/11.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You want me to feel sorry for you, eh? That’s easy to do. But this is more your speed, written by an Israeli historian far more knowledgeable than you. After reading it you may not be laughed at so much…

            Black November

            The Balfour Declaration 99 years ago marked the beginning of a settler colonial project of tragic proportions.

            By Ilan Pappe

            November 03, 2016 “Information Clearing House” – “Al Jazeera” – November is a painful month in the Palestinian calendar. It is dotted with commemorative days that have one theme in common: the partitioning of Palestine.

            ->http://www.informationclearinghouse.INFO/article45776.htm

          • garybkatz

            Pappe is an idiot. He openly admits he has an agenda and his agenda is more important than facts. Given his slander against Israel, he should change his name to “Pappe Smear.”

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Ha, ha! Look at the mendacious Zionist thug screaming on the spit of history! Anybody can verify what Pappe says by a little research on the Internet.

            Ilan Pappe is a highly regarded historian, and what are you, “garybkatz”, but a pusher of the Zionist con game that no one believes anymore, not even you!

          • garybkatz

            Highly regarded by Jew haters. Considered a POS by everyone else: https://newrepublic.com/article/85344/ilan-pappe-sloppy-dishonest-historian

          • America Firster

            So only when we can produce photos from a time thousands of years before photos existed will you accept the fact that the Ashkenazi are from Europe/Russia? Look at what community has done to your mind!

      • Pepper Wingate

        Take a look at Ahed Tamimi, also known as Shirley Temper. One of the best pictures of her is biting an Israeli soldier trying to arrest her brother. That blonde hair is exactly what you complain about with the Ashkenazi Jews. It’s straight off the Russian Steppes. Seems you are calling Jews “white” when Palestinians are from far and wide, too!

        • Helen4Yemen

          Take a look at this picture. There are many Arabs that look like the one on the left but none like the European on the right.

          https://i0.*wp.*com/worldpeace365.*files.*wordpress.*com/2016/02/pal-european.png?ssl=1&w=450

        • Helen4Yemen

          Give me one name of an Ashkenazi who resembles the people of the ME?

          • Pepper Wingate

            Not replying to my post. Go boil your head!

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          She already pointed out that there were some blond, blue-eyed Arabs with Arab features.

          But whatever rare excuse you did up, you still remain alien European invaders and genocidal country stealers with no right to throttle Palestine.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Is Palestine equally the ‘ancestral’ homeland of the Nigerian and Indian and Kenyan and Lithuanian and Yemeni and German and Chinese and Ugandan Jews?

      • Jerome

        It’s a safer place for Muslims to practice their religion. An Israeli Arab lives with far greater safety than an Arab in the A Arab world.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Take your medicine, your tech, your gold, and just go!

          • peepsqueek

            You left your home in the Middle East to come live in the US, where you use this high tech to post your propaganda freely, which if you did in your home Country, if you had an unrestricted internet, could land you in very hot water if you did not preach the party line. You are obviously from a privileged class of people, or you would not be living here and so highly educated and free to speak your mind.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Don’t be silly, you envy Jews in Israel the riches they have developed in seventy short years. You think you could do the same thing if you had the land of Israel. Instead you wallow in the filth that is Palestine. You fail to see that Arabs and Jews were both refugees in the same land at the same time. One made the land bloom and developed an economy that is the envy of the developed world, healthcare that is the envy of the world, a defence force that can hold its head high among the nations of the world, all they while defending itself from genocidal attacks for 70 years. The other, despite being the best financed refugees in the world has done nothing to improve itself. Arabs in Israel have freedom and safety that can only be dreamed of in the rest of the world. Arabs in Palestine are either on top and robbing their fellows blind or on the bottom unable to find work and angry at the lot forced upon them by the rest of the Middle East. No industry, no innovation, stolen water, a kleptocratic government, no health care (except when you plead with Israel to let you into their hospitals).
            You envy Israel its wealth. You think that if you can drive the Jews out, all that wealth will be yours! Wrong! The wealth of Israel comes with Jews. Even so to have the wealth of Israel, Jews must be free, not dhimmis.
            Yes, I know, you think you can do it on your own. Not going to happen, girl! Better to be poor in your own land than ruled by Jews? Milton in Paradise lost placed these words in Satan’s mouth, “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven!”

          • Mike Abramov

            That will result in the death of many Arabs and it will all your fault.

        • America Firster

          I think I will wait to hear from Arabs living in Israel about their lot in life rather than taking the word of their oppressor.

        • davidr

          Qualify your statement Jewish Jerome.

          • Mike Abramov

            OY! Behave yourself. This is a site for debate and not for neo-Nazism.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        I reduced “proudzionist” to monosyllable grunts and groans. Let me know when he starts putting together sentences again. He is easy to reduce.

        • Helen4Yemen

          It is so easy to demolish their claim because it is totally false and silly. They claim not to originate from Europe but Palestine, otherwise, how can they claim to be ‘the Chosen’? But they expect the world to make an exception for them and say that when it comes to Jews, the African, European, Arab, Chinese are of ‘Jewish’ genes – but not the African Muslim and Chinese Muslim and Arab Muslim or African Christian and European Christian and Arab Christian. Total insanity. Remember: if they let go of their claim to originate from Palestine, then they got nothing left to left to hold on to. That is why they have special training courses they call ‘hasbara’ that trains them how to fight back the truth with falsehood.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            All true! I could tell that he was working off a script. that’s why I kept shoving the basic question of his thuggery at him.

          • Mike Abramov

            YAWN!

          • Eric11210

            Oh Madame Jihad, always ignoring science…

        • Helen4Yemen

          Thanks, I will now read your comments.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Please don’t. They are as banal as the creature I was pursuing.

          • Helen4Yemen

            🙂

        • Mike Abramov

          But I am not.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You’re sicker than “proudzionist”? Can’t argue against that point.

          • Helen4Yemen

            I already told him he ain’t got a ‘Yiddish-Kop’, that is ‘Jewish brain’.
            The Jews insult us by saying that our brains are ‘Goyish-Kop’, i.e.
            gentile brain which they say is inferior to Jewish brain.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            They are always complaining about others being bigoted against them, while containing superlatives in bigotry, of which Zionism is only one extreme manifestation.

        • Eric11210

          Always so full of yourself and thinking you are superior because you hate Jews. We’ve outlasted your kind before and we’ll be here when you and your pathetic lies are on the dustbin of history.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Not to Jews, only to depraved Zionist thugs like you. Nothing to be proud of. It’s so easy.

          • Eric11210

            Always that tired lie. At least your buddy Madame Jihad is more honest and admits she hates all Jews.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Always another lie from you. You are worthless.You are blocked.

          • Eric11210

            Yeah, yeah. Your buddy Madame Jihad said the same thing.

      • Eric11210

        Yes, it is Madame Jihad.

    • Truth

      Who believes every ethnic group is entitlted to their ancestral homeland? Most people do not. When did Greeks say all of Turkey belonged to them? When did Armenians say all of Eastern Turkey belong to them? When did Cherokees say East Asia or China belonged to them? When did Gypsies say India belonged to them? People immigrate, people get expelled, states and borders change. What Zionism is is the idea to change history and live in the past. And FYI there is no proof a religious group has Palestine as their ancestral homeland. Palestinians are more native to Jerusalem than Polish Jews.

      • Pepper Wingate

        Good, we have great plans for a shopping mall in Mecca. We’ll bring in the bulldozers tomorrow.

        • Helen4Yemen

          You did not respond to the comment! Here it is again:

          FYI there is no proof a religious group has Palestine as their ancestral homeland. Palestinians are more native to Jerusalem than Polish Jews.

          • Pepper Wingate

            Too stupid to understand my response.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            She understood it. You were looking to do some more genocidal country stealing. All you Zionists lack even a rudimentary conscience.

          • davidr

            Filth. Scourge of the planet.

          • Eric11210

            Talking about yourself and your fellow Jihadis? I quite agree.

          • davidr

            Ha! Imbecile.

          • Eric11210

            Yes, we get it. You are an imbecile.

          • Eric11210

            Oh Madame Jihad, always with the grand lies. You know full well there is a massive amount of archeological evidence but in your insanity you try desperately and laughably to lie.

          • davidr

            Pray, tell us what Jewish archaeology there is to see.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Archaeology that shows lily white Ashkenazi Europeans are descendants of dark skinned people from the ME. Haha!

          • davidr

            You have to give it to them though; they’re all superb liars! Taught it in school, I’m told along with theft. The Fagan School of all Things Evil.

          • Eric11210

            It does indeed Madame Jihad.

          • Eric11210

            smithsonianmaG.Com/history/what-is-beneath-the-temple-mount-920764/?all
            nbcnewS.Com/id/28162671/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/jewish-archaeological-discoveries/#.WB9ZSSSqnBs

            Never learned to use Google, did ya? Guess it’s not something your madrasa teaches…

          • davidr

            Haram esh-Sharif is Muslim. It has nothing to do with Judaism. The UN have confirmed this and you have all been ex-communicated.

            You tell lies about lies. Repulsive.

          • Eric11210

            Just because your fellow Jihadis lied to the UN doesn’t make it true moron.

        • Helen4Yemen

          You did not respond to the comment! Here it is again:

          FYI there is no proof a religious group has Palestine as their ancestral homeland. Palestinians are more native to Jerusalem than Polish Jews.

      • Mike Abramov

        Well Mr. Truth, you too must be trespassing on someone else’s land too. Idiot.

        Every single group of people cited in your statement have been persecuted at some stage, or ousted by a more powerful army. That is history.

        I have no problem with Palestinians believing in a right of return, but they are no more Palestinian than I am? They are Arabs who may be able to trace their routes to a couple of hundred years but most Palestinians are tribal and originally hailed from many different countries.

    • America Firster

      An anti Zionist is someone who thinks special privileges should not be given to any group over any other group. Who does not think white folks from Europe are native to the deserts of the ME. Who does not think the richest, most powerful ethno religious group in the world is a persecuted minority. Simply, an anti Zionist has not been subject to brainwashing from early childhood to believe the ridiculous

      • Helen4Yemen

        Great comment! Remember that for them to face reality and admit that they are a European people would be equal to admitting that they stole Palestine. Therefore, they will respond with the same insane and illogical statements over and over and over again.

        • Eric11210

          Except that this is our ancestral homeland and nothing you or your fellow Jihadis can say will change that.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Great comment! Remember that for them to face reality and admit that they are a European people would be equal to admitting that they stole Palestine. Therefore, they will respond with the same insane and illogical statements over and over and over again.

      • Eric11210

        Translation: you hate Jews.

        • America Firster

          Not many of them but some of them, sure. Based on their racist, violent, hate fueled actions. The question is why you don’t. You would hate any non Jews who acted so abominably. And take that effin Israeli flag off the American one, you traitor.

          • Eric11210

            The only traitor here is you, with your insane hatred and racism towards Jews. The flag stands for freedom and tolerance. Not the sick hatred you espouse.

          • America Firster

            You are quite confused. It’s not me who mixes the flag of a foreign nation with that of America. And Israel stands for tolerance, does it? A nation that gives all Jews the right to live there and denies the same to the Palestinians who are actually from there? I understand you were well brainwashed before you were old enuff to know what’s going on. But for God’s sakes. How can you continue to buy into the Big Lie?

          • Eric11210

            As usual, you can’t seem to figure out basic facts. All Israeli citizens, Jewish and Arab have the exact same rights. And the so called Palestinians are Arabs from Arabia. The Jews are from the Land of Israel. I realize you were brainwashed before you were old enough to know what’s going on but for goodness sake, why do you continue to buy into the Big Lie of the so called Palestinians????

          • America Firster

            1950 law about confiscation of Absentee Landlord Property. This law defines persons who were expelled, fled, or who left the country after November 29, 1947 as “absentee.” Property belonging to “absentees” was placed under the control of the State of Israel with the Custodian for Absentees’ Property. The Absentee Property Law was the main legal instrument used by Israel to take possession of the land belonging to the internal and external Palestinian refugees, and Muslim Waqf properties across the state. This law continues to be used to this day by quasi-governmental agencies in Israel to take over Palestinian properties in East Jerusalem, for example.
            1950 Law of Return. This allows every Jewish person to immigrate to Israel and this extends to the children and grandchildren of Jews, as well as their spouses, and the spouses of their children and grandchildren. The flip side of this is that the rights of Palestinians and others to enter the state and become citizens, even if they were born in the area that is now the State of Israel, are extremely restrictive. This discrimination against the non-Jewish minority has been periodically reinforced. For example, the ban on family unification law of 2003 prohibits citizens of Israel from reuniting with Palestinian spouses living in the West Bank or Gaza.
            In 1952 the state authorized the World Zionist Organization, the Jewish Agency, and other Zionist bodies founded at the turn of the 20th century to function in Israel as quasi-governmental entities in order to further advance the goals of the Zionist movement, to the detriment of minorities.
            The Land Acquisition Law of 1953 transferred the land of 349 Arab towns and villages—approximately 1.2 million dunams in all (~468 square miles)—to the state to be used preferentially for the Jewish majority.
            In 1953, the Knesset bestowed governmental authorities on the Jewish National Fund (JNF or Keren Kayemeth LeIsrael) to purchase land for exclusively Jewish use. The state granted financial advantages, including tax relief to facilitate such purchases.
            In 1960, the state passed a law which stipulates that the ownership of “Israel lands”—namely the 93% of land under the control of the state, the Jewish National Fund, and the Development Authority—cannot be transferred in any manner.
            Although most Palestinians that remained in 1949 were granted Israeli citizenship, they were subject to martial law until 1966. Travel permits, curfews, administrative detentions, and expulsions were part of life until 1966. Once Palestinians were relieved from martial law, laws were passed to clearly define the primacy of ethnically Jewish Israelis.

            In 1969, the state passed a law that gave statutory recognition to cultural and educational institutions, and defined their aims, inter alia, as developing and fulfilling Zionist goals to promote Jewish culture and education at the expense of minority goals.
            There is a law mandating that Knesset session must be opened with a reading of portions of Israel’s declaration of independence that emphasizes the exclusive connection of the state of Israel to the Jewish people.
            There is a law that bans any political party that denies the existence of Israel as a “Jewish” state. In other words, a party that would advocate equal rights for all citizens of Israel irrespective of ethnicity would not be allowed to enter the Knesset.
            There are laws that establish separate educational systems which are then unequally administered.
            More recently, the Knesset has passed laws to defend against efforts to bring the Palestinian minority onto a more equal footing.

            In 2011 the Knesset passed a law that empowers hundreds of local Jewish communities to exclude applicants based on ethnicity or religion. The Supreme Court upheld this law in September 2014.
            In 2011 the Knesset passed a law prohibiting anyone from calling for a boycott of Israel, its institutions, or any person because of their affiliation with Israel, including the settlements in the occupied territories. The law creates a private right of action for persons targeted by a boycott to sue for damages. As Noam Sheizaf puts it: “You can boycott anything in Israel except the occupation.” This vague law is blatantly aimed at Palestinians who are supportive of the BDS movement—while it allows people like Avigdor Lieberman to call for boycott of Arab owned businesses with impunity. The law was upheld by Israel’s Supreme Court on April 15, 2015.
            As demonstrated by its decision upholding the boycott law, the Supreme Court of Israel has failed to stem the ever rightward tilt of the Israeli polity.

          • Eric11210

            Good for you. You can quote the hate site Mondoweiss. Notice that I actually quote independent sources but hey, why would a jihadist such as yourself bother with such things, right?

          • America Firster

            Poor Eric. When confronted with facts that put the lie to the propaganda he has been raised on (the listing of several laws that favor Jews over non Jews in Israel) he cannot accept the truth. Hey Eric. Why can Jews who never lived in Israel “return” while Palestinians who lived there cannot?

          • Eric11210

            Funny guy. Calling Modoweiss factual.

          • America Firster

            This is all public info. Are you actually denying the facts listed in my post? Anyone can look it up and see its accurate. Now how are you going to spin that in your head?

          • Eric11210

            If it’s public info then please provide a link to the source for it from the official government websites. All you did was quote the hate site Mondoweiss — a website well known for constantly distorting the facts and plain old lying, kind of like you.

          • America Firster

            Tell ya what. Why don’t you look it up? easy enuff. But what will you do when you find its all true? So you better not look into it. And I have faith you won’t

          • Eric11210

            You’re the one making accusations and now you expect me to do your homework for you. Classic.

          • finaly had enough

            America Firster, I do not write often but sometimes it is just impossible not to react. You are probably one of the most ignorant and uneducated persons that I met who is never -the- less not embarrassed to expressed her opinion… Amazing! Just amazing! In a country where information is available, education is available and encouraged, you managed to keep yourself in this virginal state of complete and total absence of knowledge and proud of it… and to top it all you are so embarrassingly angry and vicious… Like all underachievers (that means losers in case you did not get it) you are also very jealous and envious… Have you ever been to Israel, have you ever met (Jews and Arabs) who are equal citizents of a beautiful, free democratic state where all hard working people live in piece interrupted only by the terrorist from the bordering states who think (like you) that they get special honors for killing Jews? Have you seen the accomplishments of the little country with 6 million people in technology, medicine, science etc. By the way if you are using a cell phone… stop right now… it was invented in Israel too.
            I hope you are not a Trump supporter. Because I am . Unlike you — for all the right reasons. I would not list them since I know that you would not understand. You can not cure stupid and I would not hold it against you.
            Just a piece of advice… try to speak less in public.

          • America Firster

            You got anything to say that actually is pertinent to my comment?

      • Mike Abramov

        I am not sure you will understand this statement, but I will give it a go.

        It is not about where you come from, it is about how you feel. I know Jews who have no sense of identity with Zionism. They call themselves English first. I know Christians who care more for Israel than they do their own homeland.

        It is not brainwashing, as you put it. It is your soul. Being a Zionist does mean you have to be a Jew and being a Jew does not mean you are a Zionist.

        This site is littered with political and nationalist statements with no consideration for the inner self.

        • America Firster

          Why should Jews from Europe be given special privileges over the natives of Palestine?

          • Mike Abramov

            Natives of Palestine?

            Most Palestinians can only trace their routes back about 100+ years. However, the answer remains the same. There are no special privileges. It’s the Jewish homeland…whether you are from Europe or Mongolia.

          • America Firster

            What an incredibly delusional and racist statement. People who have lived there forever “can only trace their routes (sic) back about 100 years” while white folks from Europe and Russia can claim it as a homeland. It is fascinating to see the absolute nonsense people will believe if its put into their head at an early enough age and if its constantly repeated.

          • Mike Abramov

            I am afraid it is a fact and certainly not delusional or racist that the Arabs in Palestine can trace their routes back to Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan as well as Palestine. The Arabs are nomadic by tradition. Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian for example.

            As for the Jews, my own family can be traced back to the first diaspora circa 335 BC. Although we are categorised as Sephardi, we are not as Sephardi refers to Spain. My family originally settled in Baghdad and Kabul.

            However, the (sic)’white folks’ you refer to are slightly different. Many of the these ‘white Jews’ were from the diaspora after the fall of the Roman Empire in 490 AD. Most traveled NE towards the Black Sea ports where the Ukraine was gaining it’s reputation as the bread basket of Europe.

            Some ‘white folks’ went NW towards France and Germany (Ashkenaz). There, they settled until around the 13th century. By then, many gilds had emerged for various trades, but Jewish membership of gilds was barred. So, the Ashkenazi Jews went east in to Poland which was an under developed new kingdom and lacked a professional class. The King was looking for rent collectors, book keepers and accountants.

            By 1335 King Casimir III granted a township to the Jews now called Kazimirz then, just outside the walls of Krakow.

            During this period many Jews became Catholics and many Catholics became Jews. It was remarkably time of considerable religious tolerance and the Jews enjoyed the protection of the King.

            In the meanwhile, the Arabs prior to 600 AD were living in tribes and basically were pagan. This in itself was fine as paganism is about being in touch with the four elements. Fire earth air and water. Mohammed had a message from God and the rest is history. Thousands of Arabs converted to Islam (The Truth) at the point of a sword.

            Jews and Arabs lived side-by-side for the next 1,500 years quite happily.

            By the 17th century things changed in Europe. The mini ice-age started and went on for 6 years. Crops failed, people starved and there had to be a scapegoat. This began the first commercialised form of anti-Semitism and continued on until 1945…..but it did not stop there.

            As the Jewish people were granted a homeland of their own by democratic decree from the UN in 1948, pogroms in the Arab countries started. Jews, who had been living with Arabs for 1,500 years were suddenly kicked out of Iraq and Egypt and Syria and in most cases with everything they owned kept by the state. In Iraq, this was known as The Fahud. A total of 850,000 Jews were made homeless and penniless.

            So, here we are in the 21st century. The tirade of hatred against the Jewish state continues under the banner of anti-Zionist (=anti-Semitic but we have to be PC nowadays) and despite Israel’s best efforts to live and work with the Arabs, their leaders, the Imams, the presidents, will not accept a Jewish homeland in the Middle East…..’from the river to the sea Palestine will be Jew free’.

            Now, who is being racist?

          • America Firster

            I see. Because you think that a part of your family lived in Palestine over 2,300 years ago then clearly you are entitled to kick the Palestinian people out of their homes. I think we can all clearly see who is the racist.

          • Mike Abramov

            I did not say that, you did. How little people change. You accuse me of being racist without the evidence, you assume that the Palestinians were ‘kicked out’ of their homes and yet 1,000,000 Arabs live in Israel.

            My brief history of the Jewish Diaspora was to illustrate that circumstances, war and racial differences result in demographic changes. The Jews managed it despite massive losses and without any outside help. But, the Palestinians have made it an international crisis. You really have been sucked in, haven’t you.

            A question for you. Why do 2,000,000 Palestinians still live in refugee camps?

          • America Firster

            Because Israel will not allow them to return to their homes. That’s pretty obvious. Of course you are a racist. You think jews from Europe should be able to kill Palestinians and steal their land, home, and culture. What would you call that?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Is there a “Jewish culture”? No!

    There are no ‘Jewish customs’. The German Jew’s customs are German, the Ethiopian Jew’s customs are Ethiopian, the Yemeni Jew’s customs are Yemeni. There are ‘Jewish religious’ customs just like Muslim religious customs shared across the Muslim world. The European Jews actually have no custom to speak of since they disdain the European customs and upon arriving in Palestine empty handed of any customs of their own wasted no time stealing Arabic food, art, music, dance, clothing, you name it, they stole it and stamped it with ‘Israeli’. Arabic falafel and humus is now peddled all over the world by European Ashkenazi Jews and advertised as ‘Israeli’

    • Richard Galber

      Jews assimilated into every culture where we have lived during our exile, but every one of those Jewish communities retained their cultural separatism. That is why we have survived as ‘the Jewish People’ for so long in foreign lands.

      Incidentally where do you get all this information and knowledge to claim to speak for ‘the Jews’, all thirteen million of us. You seem to know so much of the history and the psyche of the Jews throughout the world in the Jewish diaspora and in Israel you must be a professor in Judaism and the repository of the entire history of the Jewish people

      Lastly, do you do anything other than replying to comments on these pages. It takes time and effort to generate the amount of commentary you generate. Just wondering

      • Helen4Yemen

        “Jews assimilated into every culture where we have lived during our exile,”

        Did your face also “assimilate” and the Jew who went to Europe morphed to look like the Europeans and those who went to Africa morphed into African? Is that the story you want to peddle?

  • Helen4Yemen

    Where are all those white Europeans on the picture from?
    Are they originally from Lithuania or Russia?

  • Jerome

    What a load of rubbish you write. There was no sign of Islamophobia .. it was a bunch of ‘students without a cause’ acting in a barbaric manner to stop an ‘Friends of Israel Society’ from hosting an Israeli speaker. Your perspective of that evening and the Middle East in general is twisted & perverse.

    You’re unable to even engage in reasonable debate. You gain nothing from having blocked me on Twitter.

  • James Mendelsohn

    Even by Ben White’s low standards, this is an absolutely shocking piece of “journalism”. Four comments will suffice:
    (1) In his third paragraph, White cites UCL’s statement, dated 28 October, which described the protest as “non-violent”. However, he neglects to mention that UCL issued an update to their statement on 30 October, stating that they had indeed received allegations of violence and intimidation. Since White’s own piece is dated 2 November, it is difficult to see how he could have been unaware of UCL’s updated statement.
    (2) Some of the very articles that White links to describe, among other things, how a female Jewish student was assaulted (i.e.: held against a door for two minutes); how the Friends of Israel group was forced to move from its original venue to a different room, and how its members were chased across the campus by pro-Palestinian students; how the speaker had to leave out of a rear entrance for his own safety; how pro-Israel students had to leave in threes, under the watchful gaze of the police, and then had the words “Shame shame shame” chanted at them. Yet White himself airbrushes such details out of his account.
    (3) White quotes a veteran pro-Israeli activist as saying that “I cannot in all honesty say I felt particularly
    threatened or anxious. It was pretty much water off the proverbial
    duck’s back.” Yet White omits the activist’s next words: “However here is the rub. It was very real
    and intimidating for inexperienced Jewish students, especially the
    freshers, who had never experienced such visceral hate and nor of course
    should have to.”
    (4) In summary, it is hard to resist the conclusion that Ben White has no objection to the violent intimidation of pro-Israeli voices – most of whom will be Jews and which will include many if not most Jewish students – on a UK campus. He would rightly be appalled if pro-Palestinian students received similar treatment from pro-Israeli representatives. And he wonders why he himself is so frequently accused of being anti-Semitic.

    • Helen4Yemen

      The European Jew was in discord with the rest of the Europeans for many centuries. How did that discord go away? It went away when the Ashkenazi went away from Europe to Palestine. Now the Palestinians have even more reasons to resent these
      European colonists. If someone arrived at your house uninvited and using a gun forced you out, would you be friendly to such foreign predators?

  • Mike Abramov

    I cannot believe how two versions of the same reporting can be so different. Sadly, I was not there but, I have read a contrasting report that the ‘disruption’ was caused by pro-Palestinians and left-wing students deliberately upsetting the meeting because Hen Mazzig, an ex-soldier and openly gay in Israel (note please, in many other countries in the Middle East he could not be openly gay) was ‘in the building’.

    My guess is that knowing the left-wing as I do, they certainly kicked things off. Sadly, the new age Zionist is not the firebrand of old. In the 1940’s and 1950’s a Zionist would have rolled his sleeves up and ‘had a bundle’ with these anti-Semites. Nowadays, Zionists are scared with the exception of a handful of activists………

    • James Mendelsohn

      Quite right Mike, this is appalling “reporting” by Ben White. As I have commented elsewhere:

      (1) In his third paragraph, White cites UCL’s statement, dated 28
      October, which described the protest as “non-violent”. However, he
      neglects to mention that UCL issued an update to their statement on 30
      October, stating that they had indeed received allegations of violence
      and intimidation. Since White’s own piece is dated 2 November, it is
      difficult to see how he could have been unaware of UCL’s updated
      statement.
      (2) Some of the very articles that White links to
      describe, among other things, how a female Jewish student was assaulted
      (i.e.: held against a door for two minutes); how the Friends of Israel
      group was forced to move from its original venue to a different room,
      and how its members were chased across the campus by pro-Palestinian
      students; how the speaker had to leave out of a rear entrance for his
      own safety; how pro-Israel students had to leave in threes, under the
      watchful gaze of the police, and then had the words “Shame shame shame”
      chanted at them. Yet White himself airbrushes such details out of his
      account.
      (3) White quotes a veteran pro-Israeli activist as saying that “I cannot in all honesty say I felt particularly
      threatened or anxious. It was pretty much water off the proverbial
      duck’s back.” Yet White omits the activist’s next words: “However here is the rub. It was very real
      and intimidating for inexperienced Jewish students, especially the
      freshers, who had never experienced such visceral hate and nor of course
      should have to.”
      (4)
      In summary, it is hard to resist the conclusion that Ben White has no
      objection to the violent intimidation of pro-Israeli voices – most of
      whom will be Jews and which will include many if not most Jewish
      students – on a UK campus. He would rightly be appalled if
      pro-Palestinian students received similar treatment from pro-Israeli
      representatives. And he wonders why he himself is so frequently accused
      of being anti-Semitic.

      • Mike Abramov

        James – I could not put it better myself. Ben White claims not to be anti Semitic, however this is a quote from some years ago.

        “I do not consider myself an anti-Semite, yet I can also understand why some are.”

        WHAT? if you can understand why some people are anti=Semitic, you ARE anti-Semitic..He gets nervous if I am in the audience at one of his meetings…..and I can see why.

        • James Mendelsohn

          Thanks Mike, yes I am aware of that quote. I have found that Ben tends not to respond rationally to criticism, he recently blocked me on Twitter when I asked if he was still supporting Malia “Zionist-led media” Bouattia. Apart from that, the thing that strikes me about this piece is the extent to which he inverts reality by selectively quoting from his sources and disregarding statements that clearly contradict his own “position”… I guess he hopes that no-one will check.