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A worshipper who raises his hand to pray in front of Al Aqsa
A worshipper who raises his hand to pray in front of Al Aqsa

In response to the Israeli government’s plan to prohibit the call to prayer in the city, churches in Nazareth showed solidarity with Muslims by broadcasting the call to the night prayer .

Over the past two weeks, Israel has been working to ban the Muslim call to prayer, the athan. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has supported the a bill to outlaw the religious calling, saying: “Israel is a state that respects the freedom of worship for all believers and it is committed to protecting those who suffer from noise which is caused by the loudspeakers.”

In defiance to the actions of the Israeli Knesset, Arab Israeli Knesset members Ahmed El-Tibi and Teleb Abu Arar performed the call to prayer, independent of each other, in the Israeli parliament (Knesset).

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  • Brooklynski

    As a Jew, I am very much offended by Israel’s denial of the right of its Muslim citizens to their call to prayer, particularly in Jerusalem, which, while being our most sacred city, has religious significance for Muslims as well. Will Netanyahu decide to ban church bells as well? How about noisy rock concerts? What about the air-raid siren that sounds a half hour before Shabbat?

  • pensword

    Netanyahu and his coteries are always angling to provoke the muslims.

    It’s how zionists ignite the fire of their bi-annual massacres.

    • Mike Abramov

      Would all the readers of this article, with the exception of Fasdunkle, read my reply. THERE IS NO BAN. The ban is is on the use of the PA system for the call t prayer at 5.00 am each day.

      • pensword

        Thank you for informing us of the recent zionist prohibition of a practice that had, until last week, remained uninhibited since muslim use of the PA system began over half a century ago.

        Once again, The Middle East’s Only Democracy™ has proven itself worthy of such a title. Perhaps the honorable mayor of Jerusalem should receive a Nobel prize for such magnanimous defense of religious liberty.

        • Mike Abramov

          Mr. Penword. My guess is that you do not live near an airport, busy main road or a school. You are unable to imagine the overpowering sound of a regular noxious noise.

          If that be the case, you are not qualified to comment on this issue.. Anyway, the ban is not likely to go through.

          • pensword

            You are unable to imagine the overpowering sound of a regular noxious noise.

            1. You’re incorrect about this assumption.
            2. A muslim call to prayer over a P.A. system does not produce nearly the frequency of noise that an airport, busy main road or school do. Not even close. I know this from first hand experience.

            This ban came about as a consequence of zionist pettiness over UNESCO’s taking Israel to task for its failure to protect the sovereignty of an ancient muslim house of worship. Netanyahu quibbles about lack of reference to the Western Wall while zionist militia remain illegal occupiers of Jerusalem according to international law. This ban is just his typical childish retaliation.

          • Mike Abramov

            OK, you are quite happy to be woken at a silly time in the morning every day via a PA system. You must be hard of hearing. The PA system is not necessary. They did not have PA systems for the last 1400 years.

            As for the rest of your diatribe, I have heard all this before. The intellectual challenge of a discussion of this nature is to understand both sides of the argument without prejudice.

            As a humanitarian, I am sorry for the people of Palestine. I am not however sorry for their corrupt and dishonest rulers.

          • pensword

            You might be interested to know that I’m a muslim who has been a muezzin that doesn’t use a P.A. when calling to prayer. We’re a minority.

            As such, you might expect me to see this as a blessing in disguise, but when I see the reasons underlying the ban, I realize that it’s just pettiness which predicates Israel’s action, regardless of my perspective of the fiqh.

            And even as a muslim, I have understood both sides of the argument. Unfortunately, your last statement betrays your own prejudice against the Palestinians. As such, your call to objectivity is a bit ironic.

          • Mike Abramov

            Sir – I think you have mis-understood me. People are people. I stress again that I do not have an issue with Palestinians. I have an issue with Kemal Mashaal who lives in luxury in Qatar while his people are struggling to make a living in a corrupt economy run the Hamas henchmen.

            So, what are the reasons for the ban?

          • pensword

            As if Netanyahu is living a life of austerity. Please …

            Israel has repeatedly attempted to assassinate Hamas and PLO leaders. I’m sure the Palestinians have learned that lesson by now.

            Netanyahu and his coteries got miffed that UNESCO complained about their failure to protect the al Aqsa compound against regular Israeli incursions upon its sovereignty. Under international law, Israel is an illegal occupant that has assumed de facto control of Jerusalem and its environs; as such, it is, at the very least, obliged to meet UNESCO’s demands.

            Instead, it whines and cries like a spoiled child. This ban was enacted because of the UNESCO affair.

          • Mike Abramov

            Mr. Penword – ‘Israel has repeatedly attempted to assassinate Hamas and PLO leaders. I’m sure the Palestinians have learned that lesson by now’. How does this statement compare to the bombings, stabbings and abductions committed by some Palestinians. Israel takes out one life, while Hamas whats to annihilate Israel’s Jews.

            As for your comment on Jerusalem, before 1948, Jews were forced in to a ‘walled-off’ compound when they went to pray at the Western Wall. Walls in the Middle-East are not uncommon. FYI, Lebanon is building a wall to separate Palestinians from the Lebanese. Are you happy with that?

          • pensword

            Mr. Penword

            It’s “pensword,” as in “The pen is mightier than the sword.”

            I answered your question about the reason underlying the ban, but now you’re just shoveling tu quoque fallacies in my direction, as if your delusional perceptions about the “far more serious” actions of Hamas merit any consideration while Israel remains an illegally occupying power of East Jerusalem and its environs according to international law.

            And your statements aren’t even remotely accurate, as Israel has inflicted far more suffering and death upon the Palestinians than any Palestinian faction has upon Israel. The truth isn’t even close to what you imagine. Israel has been and is he primary cause of regional conflict.

            I’m not interested in arguing these matters with someone so obviously out of touch with reality. Enjoy your hasbarant. I’ll pass.

          • Mike Abramov

            Mr. Pensword – Note the correct spelling.

            It is Hasbara not Habarant if you don’t mind. I know you think you are being clever with a play on words, but I am not impressed.

            There should be a big fat ZERO who have died in this conflict, but as most of you focus on the ‘fair fight’ concept, I will not pursue that argument.

          • guillermo guerras

            Sir being a complete ignorant yourself, I find it extremely ironic that you should give yourself the right to dictate who is allowed or not to give an opinion about this subject!
            If you shall differ about your ignorance, please notice that there is no such a person called Kemal Mashaal as His name is Khaled. Take also into your account that this person lives in Qatar because not only he has been banned by Israel from his own land but also Musad carried an attempt of murder against him in Amman that only with lots of pressure and a bit of diplomacy Israel gave the anti-dote of the poison injected in him before his death!
            Now I don’t really care about the matter of corruption in Palestinian authorities as it is not the point of discussion and you’re just using it to divert the public from the main issue. But for the sake of argument I dare you to give one name of a Palestinian leader (try actually giving a real name for a change!)
            Back to the main subject: If the law seeks to minimize noisy sounds in the city then why only the moazzins are banned and the bells and/ or Sabbat sirens are not?
            Now as hard as it may be to you I invite you to force yourself to be as objective and logic as possible and take into account the colonial politics of the Israeli government and Jerusalem occupation municipality as well as the periodical military and settlers aggression to the Holy sepulcher, and Dome of the rock sites as well as the constant harassment and eviction of Jerusalem Palestinians and the expropriation and occupation of houses in the old city, not to mention laws that ban and prohibit Palestinians to live in their own houses in Jerusalem. I am sure once you’ve learned a thing or two about the situation of Al-Quds you’ll find that this law comes in a series of acts that aim throwing Palestinians out of the city and completely occupy it.
            Not that I have no faith in human intelligence but I know for a fact that the will of knowledge is the way out of ignorance and as I’m positively certain that you’re satisfied with your mediocre comprehension of events you will never embrace facts to conclude your opinion but you’ll forever build your point of view out of prejudice and false assumptions. Therefor I will not be following nor continuing this argumentation with you no more.
            Have a good life, or not I don’t really care!

          • Mike Abramov

            Kemal Mashaal . My apologies. It is of course Khaled.

            By way of reciprocation it is not Musad but Mossad.

            Now that we have the spelling corrections out of the way, I shall reply.

            Firstly, it is unlikely that this law will be passed. Church bells are not too much of an issue. Sundays Christmas and Easter are not an environmental issue. As for the announcement of the Sabbath, this is just on Friday night and on Holocaust Memorial Day 27th January. As for the muezzin….5 times a day? What did the muezzin do before the PA system was invented?

            Khaled Mashaal is a terrorist who runs Gaza like a prison camp. No gay rights, no long hair and as leader of Hamas, his aim is to destroy Israel. Is that OK with you?

            However, if you are going to ignore corruption in the Palestinian territories, this brings in to question your own integrity. 1,000,000 Arabs decided to stay in Israel in 1948, about another 1,000,000 fled for various reasons. Millions of Jews lost their homes in WW2 and then in 1951 in Iraq and then in 1954 in Egypt. These Jews had been living with Muslims since 600 AD. How did they feel? They just accepted it and moved on.

            I am not offended by your derogatory comments. I have heard this all before. I am surprised however that you dismiss corruption. This is the reason why both in Gaza and the West Bank so many Arabs still live in poor housing while Mahmood Abbas is building a palace in Ramallah for $13,000,000

          • pensword

            You are unable to imagine the overpowering sound of a regular noxious noise.

            1. You’re incorrect about this assumption.
            2. A muslim call to prayer over a P.A. system does not produce nearly the frequency of noise that an airport, busy main road or school do. Not even close. I know this from first hand experience.

            This ban came about as a consequence of zionist pettiness over UNESCO’s taking Israel to task for its failure to protect the sovereignty of an ancient muslim house of worship. Netanyahu quibbles about lack of reference to the Western Wall while zionist militia remain illegal occupiers of Jerusalem according to international law. This ban is just his typical childish retaliation.

        • Mike Abramov

          Mr. Penword. My guess is that you do not live near an airport, busy main road or a school. You are unable to imagine the overpowering sound of a regular noxious noise.

          If that be the case, you are not qualified to comment on this issue.. Anyway, the ban is not likely to go through.

  • Vacy

    BRAVO!! A beautiful sound and proud act of resistance.

    • Johnson11b

      It’s not a beautiful sound when it’s blasted from loud speakers at 4 in the morning.
      Palestinian aggressors have no right to resist.

      • If you don’t like Palestinians, why do you live in Palestine? Have you ever thought of just telling your buddies back at the Kibbutz that you were going down to Eilat for some spa time and then move some where nice and never come back?

        Buy some land somewhere nice like in Greece or Croatia settle down on the beach and live happily ever.

        • Andy Lee

          Eh.

    • Mike Abramov

      Grow up!

  • Fasdunkle

    “In response to the Israeli government’s plan to prohibit the call to prayer in the city”

    No such plan exists.

    “Over the past two weeks, Israel has been working to ban the Muslim call to prayer”

    Nope, he hasn’t, why lie about it?

  • David S

    The Balfour Declaration guaranteed the destruction of freedom and liberty in the Middle East and in Palestine. As always, blame the UK, France, and the US.

    • Fasdunkle

      Islam doesn’t offer freedom and liberty. The freest and most liberal state in the middle east is Israel

      • M M Kho

        May I ask, what other Middle Eastern countries have you visited?

      • M M Kho

        May I ask, what other Middle Eastern countries have you visited?

      • Rashid Basri

        What an idiot thinking. How can you say that. Have you ever studied the literatures of Islam. You seem to be biased. Excuse me to say so if it hurts you. But the reality is that Islam is rising and preading very fast because of its natural laws and democratic views.

        • Fasdunkle

          Name me a place which became more tolerant when it became more islamic

          • Rashid Basri

            Name any single place where islam is.and it is following islamic principle.and it is not tolerant.
            And hello, name me any place where jews are and they are not trying to interfere in the policies of others culture and policies.they are really a burden on this earth from the beginning and it will be clear in the long run.what you say is without study and research of islamic ethics.

          • Rashid Basri

            Name any single place where islam is.and it is following islamic principle.and it is not tolerant.
            And hello, name me any place where jews are and they are not trying to interfere in the policies of others culture and policies.they are really a burden on this earth from the beginning and it will be clear in the long run.what you say is without study and research of islamic ethics.

          • Fasdunkle

            lol, always the same answer

          • Rashid Basri

            Ye. It is always the same answer if you are a dumb person.
            Try to change your specs if you can. But I doubt you can😀😀😀

          • Fasdunkle

            lol, always the same answer

        • Fasdunkle

          Name me a place which became more tolerant when it became more islamic

        • Mike Abramov

          No sir. Islam is spreading through force, indoctrination and the gullible. As for democratic, women are second class citizens. GET REAL!

          • Rashid Basri

            You mean to say Islam is spreading by force in USA, Uk, France, Russia, etc. by force? Ha ha ha….wake up lol.

          • Mike Abramov

            Answer the question. I said; ‘Islam is spreading through force, indoctrination and the gullible’ You know perfectly well that Islam was spread at the ‘point of a sword’ In the USA it is taken up by the gullible, in Saudi Arabia and many other Arab countries, Islam means the death penalty for gay men and prison for women who are raped.

            There is nothing wrong with Islam, it is the people who make Islam a bad name.

          • Rashid Basri

            Exactly….I also want to say the same. Islam did not spread through the sword. If it is so Indian subcontinent would have been completely green because there was a muslim rule of 1000 years. You asked about gay relations. Do you think its a natural way of relationship? Your second question if any muslim prisons a woman and rapes I stand against him with all my might and power and he must be punished first of all.If I do this I must be punished severely.

          • Mike Abramov

            Oh dear. Mr Basri, your sense of humanity and justice is way behind the times. Mankind has learned that if a man or woman is gay, it is not their choice or their fault. It is God’s decision, not yours that they are 1:10 of the population.

            You also state that you would be against any man who rapes a woman. So, why in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (the home of Islam) are women sent to prison for being raped?

            Finally, may i correct you on the subject of India. It was Arab merchants who converted SOME of the Indian population, not by force, but by association. Hinduism is not for everybody and therefore it was the gullible that converted to Islam in India.

          • Rashid Basri

            Have you ever studied the constitution of saudi arabia? Or all of your great knowledge is based on fake media reports who are also against islam.
            I do not like gays or lesbians.and if any other muslim does not like this what is the problem with the world.is it compulsary to accept gay or lesbos for pleasure?
            If Islam spreads through association what is wrong in it?every religion spreads the same way. I guess you are biased with Islam and the islamic way. If so then go your own way. This is the world of democracy. We cant pressurise you and the same applies with muslims.

          • Mike Abramov

            No, I said Islam is spreading through the gullible and the vulnerable in these places.

          • Rashid Basri

            Look sir, there is no sense of having discussion on this topic now. Have a nice day.
            Btw from which country are you?

          • Mike Abramov

            Ok. I am from England

          • Rashid Basri

            I am from India. I would feel pleased if you keep in touch on different topics.

          • Mike Abramov

            Rashid – you are welcome to keep in touch. Hopefully the aim of this debating site is to create dialogue and understanding and not hatred and racism.

          • Mike Abramov

            No, I said Islam is spreading through the gullible and the vulnerable in these places.

      • Rashid Basri

        What an idiot thinking. How can you say that. Have you ever studied the literatures of Islam. You seem to be biased. Excuse me to say so if it hurts you. But the reality is that Islam is rising and preading very fast because of its natural laws and democratic views.

      • James Henry

        That depends on who you are, the same as any apartheid, supremacist state.

        • Mike Abramov

          Yawn! ‘Supremacist’. ‘Apartheid’….and your evidence?

          • David S

            The wall, the never-ending destruction of homes, olive groves, personal property, and lives. All well-documented (even in Haaretz).

          • Mike Abramov

            The wall has stopped the suicide bombing.
            The home destruction is punishment for terrorists instead of the death penalty.
            Olive groves is a shame, but their removal is not a crime.

            Haaretz is a left-wing paper writing against a right-wing coalition government.

            In a nutshell, all the Palestinians have to do is sit down with Israel, discuss their aims and eventually they can live side-by-side….but they won’t.

          • David S

            The Nazi’s had their sympathizers and those that justified their crimes too. You are in good company.

          • Mike Abramov

            OK. You are running out of arguments so you resort to insults. It happens every time,

      • James Henry

        That depends on who you are, the same as any apartheid, supremacist state.

    • Fasdunkle

      Islam doesn’t offer freedom and liberty. The freest and most liberal state in the middle east is Israel

  • Nuno

    In my vilage, in Portugal, the church had the habit of using loudspeakers to inform people about the religious services. After several complains from people about the loud noise, they started to use only the bells instead of the electrical loudspeakers. Believe me, it was a real nightmare to live nearby.

    • Helen4Yemen

      I agree that the loudspeakers are a nuisance, but the European Ashkenazi chooses to squat on stolen land whereas nothing prevents him from going back home to Germany, Russia, Lithuania, Poland, and so on.

      • Mike Abramov

        Helen – for goodness sake, change the tune. I am getting bored with your linear statements.

    • Helen4Yemen

      I agree that the loudspeakers are a nuisance, but the European Ashkenazi chooses to squat on stolen land whereas nothing prevents him from going back home to Germany, Russia, Lithuania, Poland, and so on.

    • Fasdunkle

      In the UK various churches have been told to quieten their bells

    • Fasdunkle

      In the UK various churches have been told to quieten their bells

    • Mike Abramov

      At last someone who agrees with me.

  • Nuno

    In my vilage, in Portugal, the church had the habit of using loudspeakers to inform people about the religious services. After several complains from people about the loud noise, they started to use only the bells instead of the electrical loudspeakers. Believe me, it was a real nightmare to live nearby.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Give me one good and valid reason why the European Ashkenazis are still in Palestine whereas they could easily go back home to Europe and they no longer face persecution? Why are they lingering? Tell me which of the following countries would refuse to admit back their own Jews who are now squatting on stolen Palestinian land?

    America
    Austria
    Belgium
    Britain
    Canada
    France
    Germany
    Hungary
    Lithuania
    Poland
    Russia
    Ukraine

    • Mike Abramov

      You are stuck in a loop. I am sure I have read this about 170 times already

    • Rashid Basri

      Your question is correct. The tragedy with jews is very beginnning of the history. They are historical nomads. A country for them never suits them. They must accept it.

  • Helen4Yemen

    Give me one good and valid reason why the European Ashkenazis are still in Palestine whereas they could easily go back home to Europe and they no longer face persecution? Why are they lingering? Tell me which of the following countries would refuse to admit back their own Jews who are now squatting on stolen Palestinian land?

    America
    Austria
    Belgium
    Britain
    Canada
    France
    Germany
    Hungary
    Lithuania
    Poland
    Russia
    Ukraine

  • Mike Abramov

    Readers of this article, please be aware that the above article is mis-leading. There is NO ban to the call to prayer. The recommendation was to ban PA systems at 5.00 am to the call to prayer. The knock-on effect was that the Jewish Orthodox community said that they too use a PA system to call in the Friday night sabbath. This is why the recommendation has been pulled. In other words, democracy.