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Egypt journalists: ‘Sorry Palestine, we are governed by a Zionist’

In a bold move, the protestors criticised Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi's response to Trump's decision saying: 'Sorry Palestine, we are governed by a Zionist'

Egyptian journalists staged a protest on Thursday evening in front of the Journalists Syndicate in Cairo, objecting to US President Donald Trump’s decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy from Tel Aviv.

A number of public figures took part in the protest, including former presidential candidate Hamdeen Sabahi, human rights activist Tariq Al-Awadhi as well as representatives of the Kefaya Movement, the April 6 Youth Movement and Al-Dustour.

The protesters demanded authorities sever ties with the Zionist entity, expel the Israeli ambassador in Cairo and close the Israeli embassy.

Condemning Arab governments, the protesters changed: “Arab leaders are cowards…either resistance or treachery” and “down with every collaborator”.

Read: Egypt minster calls for opening Arab embassies in Palestine’s Jerusalem

In a bold move, they criticised Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi’s response to Trump’s decision saying: “Sorry Palestine, we are governed by a Zionist.”

Polie forces cordoned off the protesters using iron barricades, while riot police were positioned nerby to ensure the demonstration did not spread.
Amr Badr, member of the Journalists Syndicate, described the American decision and said he doesn’t not expect it to be followed through.

In the first official call to boycott US products, the Journalists Syndicate issued a statement which condemned Trump’s decision and called on all Egyptians to boycott American goods.

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While the international community has almost unanimously disagreed with Donald Trump’s announcement, reports suggest that the announcement was done with the pre-agreement of Egypt and Saudi Arabia, with the Saudi Arabia going as far as, allegedly, stating to the Palestinian President to accept a village on the outskirts of Jerusalem as the alternative Palestinian capital.

Since the announcement, Saudi Arabia’s royal court has sent notices to the nation’s media outlets to limit the airtime given to protests against Trump’s announcement.

Emboldened by Trump’s annoucement, Israeli housing Minister Yoav Galant decided on Friday to promote a plan to build 14,000 new settlement units in the occupied Jerusalem.

Read: Makkah and Madinah imams silent on Jerusalem in Friday sermons

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  • ithamer

    One has to hope that this egregious action by the President of the US does not put Jewish supporters in the US at risk

    • kirby1

      Is that a threat.

      • ithamer

        No, The situation seems to be spiralling out of control.and could lead to horrible responses.everywhere

        • kirby1

          The US does not defer its foreign policy to terrorirst.

          • Barzini

            Says the non-Semite and supporter of the brutal ethnic cleansing of 700,000 innocent Semitic men, women and children

          • kirby1

            To Barzini the racist bigoted Antisemite Islamo-facist ignorant pig.

            The Palestinian refugee issue originated in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, when five Arab armies invaded the State of Israel just hours after it was established. Palestinian Arabs who fled did so to avoid the ongoing war or at the urging of Arab leaders, and expected to return after a quick and certain Arab victory over the new Jewish state.
            The Arab nations refused to absorb these Palestinians into their societies and they were instead settled into refugee camps, insisting that citizen and integration would undermine the refugees’ right to return to their homes in Palestine. Only Jordan’s King Abdullah conferred citizenship on the 200,000 Palestinian living in Jordan.
            Fact:
            On November 30, the day after the UN partition vote, the Jewish Agency announced: “The main theme behind the spontaneous celebrations we are witnessing today is our community’s desire to seek peace and its determination to achieve fruitful cooperation with the Arabs….“
            Israel’s Proclamation of Independence, issued May 14, 1948, also invited the Palestinians to remain in their homes and become equal citizens in the new state:
            In the midst of wanton aggression, we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its bodies and institutions….We extend our hand in peace and neighborliness to all the neighboring states and their peoples, and invite them to cooperate with the independent Jewish nation for the common good of all.
            FACT:
            850,000 Jews were expuled from Arab and Muslim countries, communities that had been in existence be the Arab invasion from the Arab Peninsula.

          • Barzini

            Why can the Palestinians not live in the homes they were brutally ethnically cleansed from via operations such as the Deir Yassin masacre?

            While they live in horrendous refugee camps, their homes are occupied by AshkeNazis, who aren’t even Semites and come from Europe with no ties of any kind to the Middle East

          • kirby1

            The biggest lie of all. Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the “Palestinians”:
            “Masri” = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word “masri” littelery means “the egyptian” in arabic !).
            “Khamis”= Bahrain “Salem Hanna Khamis” “al-Faruqi”= Mosul,
            Iraq
”al-Araj” = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty “Hussein al-Araj”
            “al Lubnani” = the Lebanese
            “al-Mughrabi” = the Moroccan (Maghreb” – meaning “West” in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
            “al-Djazair” = the Algerian
            “al-Yamani” = the Yemeni “Issam Al Yamani”
            “al-Afghani” = the Afghan
            “al-Hindi” = the Indian “Amin al-Hindi”
            “Iraqi” = from Iraq.
            “halabi” = from Aleppo, Syria
            “El Baghdadi” = from Baghdad Iraq.
            “Tarabulsi”= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
            “Hourani” = Houran Syria.
            “al-Husayni” = Saudi Arabia.
            “Saudi” = Saudi Arabia.
”Metzarwah”= Egypt.
            “Barda—wil” = “Salah Bardawil” HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
            “Nashashibi” = Syria.
            “Bushnak” = Bosnia
”zoabi”= from Iraq: “Haneen Zoabi”.
            “Turki” = Turkey “Daud Turki”
            “al-Kurd” = Kurdistan.
            “Haddadins” = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
            “Arab Abu-Kishk” = Egypt.(Bedouins)
            “Arab al shakirat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
            “Arab al zabidat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
            “Arab al aramsha” = Egypt (Bedouins)

          • Barzini

            What’s your point?

            The vast majority of Jews don’t come from Palestine either, they come from Europe and America and have white skin and not a drop of Semitic blood in their veins

            A huge number of them have Russian, English and European surnames

            700,000 innocent people were ethnically cleansed by non-Semitic Ashkenazis

          • kirby1

            Wrong the facts are quite different then your fictional posting
            The Palestinian Arabs were displaced as a consequence of Arab, not Jewish, aggression, and that many Palestinian Arabs actively participated in the aggression that left them displaced. Also wealthy Palestinians and Palestinian “intellectuals, fled their country voluntarily at the first sign of danger, leaving ordinary Palestinians leaderless and frightened, so that they fled as well. Had the Arab League states and the Palestinian Arab leaders sought a peaceful settlement ra
            The Palestinians left their homes in 1947-48 for a variety of reasons. Thousands of wealthy Arabs left in anticipation of a war, thousands more responded to Arab leaders’ calls to get out of the way of the advancing armies, a handful were expelled, but most simply fled to avoid being caught in the cross fire of a battle. Had the Arabs accepted the 1947 UN resolution, not a single Palestinian would have become a refugee and an independent Arab state would now exist beside Israel.
            The beginning of the Arab exodus can be traced to the weeks immediately following the announcement of the UN partition resolution. The first to leave were roughly 30,000 wealthy Arabs who anticipated the upcoming war and fled to neighboring Arab countries to await its end. Less affluent Arabs from the mixed cities of Palestine moved to all-Arab towns to stay with relatives or friends.
            plethora of evidence exists demonstrating that Palestinians were encouraged to leave their homes to make way for the invading Arab armies. The U.S. Consul­General in Haifa, Aubrey Lippincott, wrote on April 22, 1948, for example, that “local mufti­dominated Arab leaders” were urging “all Arabs to leave the city, and large numbers did so.”
            The Economist, a frequent critic of the Zionists, reported on October 2, 1948: “Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit….It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades.”
            Time’s report of the battle for Haifa (May 3, 1948) was similar: “The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by orders of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city….By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa.”
            All of those who left fully anticipated being able to return to their homes after an early Arab victory, as Palestinian nationalist Aref el-Aref explained in his history of the 1948 war:
            The Arabs thought they would win in less than the twinkling of an eye and that it would take no more than a day or two from the time the Arab armies crossed the border until all the colonies were conquered and the enemy would throw down his arms and cast himself on their mercy.
            Now the camps are in the hands of the Palestinian Authority (PA), but little is being done to improve the lot of the Palestinians living in them. Netty Gross of the Jerusalem Report (July 6, 1998) visited Gaza and asked an official why the camps there hadn’t been dismantled. She was told the Palestinian Authority had made a “political decision” not to do anything for the nearly half a million Palestinians living in the camps until the final-status talks with Israel took place. In fact, between June 2000 and June 2003, the number of Palestinians living in camps in the PA has increased by nearly 50,000 (8 percent) and the overall number of refugees has grown by 11 percent.

          • Barzini

            What’s wrong with leaving a place temporarily due to fear of being killed in a war?

            Why should that mean that they can’t return to their homes?

            And I assume you are aware of operations such as the Deir Yassin massacre, where Jews savagely ethnically cleansed Palestinians from their lands

          • kirby1

            “Palestinian” politician Zouhair Moussein told the Dutch newspaper Trouw in 1977 (Israel Matzav):
            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.
            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jersusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.”

          • Barzini

            So what? Does that mean that the people who were living on the land deserved to lose their homes?

            I don;t follow your logic?

            How does that justify them losing their homes to millions of non-Semitic immigrants from places like Russia?

          • kirby1

            Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous “Palestinian” and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a “Palestinian refugee” but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. “Al-Qudwa” tribe origin?
            Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that, “If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them.”l
            The Arab immigrants were drawn to the land because Jewish settlement there brought on development of economic opportunities as well as improvement in sanitation and medicine.
            In 1939, then-U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt said that the immigration of Arabs to Palestine since 1921 was outpacing the immigration of Jews during that same period.
            Winston Churchill, who would later become prime minister of Britain, commented on the massive waves of Arab immigration into the country during that time. “Despite the fact that they were never persecuted, masses of Arabs poured into the country and multiplied” Churchill observed.

          • Barzini

            Are you therefore claiming that 700,000 people deserved to lose their homes to non-Semetic Yiddish speaking Eastern European immigrants?

          • kirby1

            Tour of the Holy Land in 1695 shows no Islamic nation at all. “Most of the land was empty, desolate, and the inhabitants few in number and mostly concentrated in the towns of Jerusalem, Acco, Tzfat, Jaffa, Tiberius and Gaza. Most of the inhabitants were Jews and the rest Christians. There were few Muslims, mostly nomad Bedouins. … In the Galilee capital, Nazareth, lived approximately 700 Christians and in Jerusalem approximately 5000 people, mostly Jews and some Christians. … In Gaza for example, lived approximately 550 people, 50 percent Jews and the rest mostly Christians.”

          • Barzini

            700,000 people were displaced – that’s an official figure agreed upon by all sides

            Why did Russian immigrants have the right to take the land of these 700,000 people

            You continually refuse to answer this question

          • kirby1

            Today’s Palestinians are immigrants from many nations: “Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudaneese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, Tartars, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians, Copts, Maronites, and many others.” (DeHass, History, p. 258. John of Wurzburg list from Reinhold Rohricht edition, pp. 41, 69).
            There are villages populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire in the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Circassians, and Egyptians. -Parkes, James William, History of the Peoples of Palestine, Hammondsworth, Great Britain, 1970, p. 212.
            There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece, and Italy, Turkomen settlers, a fairly large Afghan colony, Motawila, immigrants from Persia, tribes of Kurds, a Bosnian colony, Circassian settlements, a large Algerian element, Sudanese… -Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1911 ed.
            [Ibrahim Pasha, the 1831 Egyptian conquerer of Palestine] “left behind him permanent colonies of Egyptians at Besian, Nablus, Irbid, Acre, and Jaffa. Into Jaffa alone, “at least 2,000 people have been imported.” -Ernst Frankenstein, Justice For My People, London, Nicholson and Watson, 1943, p. 127.

          • Barzini

            But you agree that 700,000 people were living on the land and have lost their homes to non-Semitic immigrants from Europe?

            Why do you think this is OK?

          • kirby1

            In their own words:
            Ibrahim Sarsur, Head of the Islamic Movement in Israel:
            An Arab viewer called Palestinian Authority TV and quoted his father, saying that in 1948 the Arab District Officer ordered all Arabs to leave Palestine or be labeled traitors. In response, Ibrahim Sarsur, now Arab Member of Israeli Parliament Knesset, then Head of the Islamic Movement in Israel, cursed those Arab leaders, thus acknowledging Israel’s historical record.

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          • kirby1

            FACT
            Today’s so called “Palestinians” [who, up to the 1960s were referred to either South Syrians prior to the 1920s, or plain Arabs, or more specifically Palestine Arabs, after the French removed Emir Faisal, from Damascus in 1920] since the late 1960s have adopted this title to be theirs exclusively] comprise a salad mixture of: Syrian Arabs, Saudi Arabs, Sudanese [Afro-]Arabs, Egyptian, Turkish, Kurdish, Bosnian, Algerian and others (which explains their surnames – telling of their origin/original land). Yet, this ‘mixture’ was never cohesive, nor did it ever before “see” itself as a “nation.”

          • Barry Bomba

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          • kirby1

            So much for Arabs wanting peace

            We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants and as for the survivors – if there are any – the boats are ready to deport them.” – Shukairy, June 1, 1967, speaking at a Friday sermon in Jerusalem
            “Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight . . . The mining of Sharm el Sheikh is a confrontation with Israel. Adopting this measure obligates us to be ready to embark on a general war with Israel.” – Nasser, May 27, 1967
            “We will not accept any … coexistence with Israel. … Today the issue is not the establishment of peace between the Arab states and Israel …. The war with Israel is in effect since 1948.” – Nasser, May 28, 1967
            “The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear – to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, God willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa.” – President Abdel Rahman Aref of Iraq, May 31, 1967

          • Barry Bomba

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          • kirby1

            History of the Palestinian people.

            Most Palestinian Arabs are descendants of the 1845-1947 Muslim migrants from the Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, as well as from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, Bosnia, the Caucasus, Turkmenistan, Kurdistan, India, Afghanistan and Balochistan.
            Arab migrant workers were imported by the Ottoman Empire and by the British Mandate (which defeated the Ottomans in 1917) to work on infrastructure projects: The port of Haifa, the Haifa-Qantara (1918), Haifa-Edrei (1905), Haifa-Nablus (1914) and Jerusalem-Jaffa (1892) railroads, military installations, roads, quarries, reclamation of wetlands, etc. Legal and illegal Arab laborers were also attracted by the relative economic boom, stimulated by the annual Jewish immigration beginning in 1882.

          • kirby1

            A short list of killing of US citizens
            * 2012 – US Embassy in Libya was attacked. The ambassador and three other Americans were killedd
            * 2013 – 2013 Boston Marathon bombings, 3 killed, 183 injured. April 15.
            * 2014 – 2014 kidnapping and murder of Israeli teenagers, 3 teens kidnapped and murdered, Hamas suspected, including 1, Naftali Frenkel, an American citizen. June 12.
            * 2015 – 2015 Charleston, South Carolina shooting, a prayer service attended by state senator Rev. Clementa C. Pinckney was attacked by a gunman. 9 people were killed, including the senator
            * 1993 – January 25 – Attack at CIA Headquarters in McLean, Virginia: 2 killed, 3 injured.
            * 1993 – February 26 – World Trade Center bombing, 6 killed, 1,042 injured.
            * 1995 – March 8 – Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan.
            * 1996 – June 25 – Khobar Towers bombing: 19 American servicemen killed
            * 1998 – August 7 – US embassy bombings: U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 214 killed (including 12 Americans); U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 11 killed
            * 1983 – April 18 – The Bombing at United States Embassy in Beirut. 63 people, including 17 Americans, are killed.
            * 1983 – October 23 – The Beirut barracks bombing. 305 people, including 241 US servicemen, are killed by 2 suicide bombers.
            * 1984 – Twenty-two people were killed (two of them American) and seventy were wounded when a van loaded with four hundred pounds of explosives exploded in front of the U.S. Embassy annex in Awkar, Lebanon. Islamic Jihad (code name of Hezbollah) claimed responsibility for the bombing in a call to the media.
            * 1985 – June 14 – TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver is killed by Hezbollah.
            * 1985 – October 7 – Achille Lauro hijacking, wheel-chair bound American killed by Palestinian militants.
            * 1988 – December 21 – Pan Am Flight 103, outbound from London for New York with 259 people aboard, was destroyed by a bomb on December 21, 1988 while over Lockerbie, Scotland. All aboard the aircraft were killed as were eleven persons on the ground.
            * 1988 – 1990 – Marine Col. Rich Higgins kidnapped, tortured and murdered by Hezbollah terrorists.
            * 1970 – The first mass aircraft hijackings occurred in 1970, the so-called Dawson’s Field hijackings, when the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine seized control of two American planes and one Swiss airliner, all bound from Europe to the United States, to punish the United States for supporting Israel. The Pan Am, TWA and Swissair planes were blown up on the ground in Jordan and Egypt.
            * 1979 – U.S. embassy burning in Islamabad – embassy was attacked by mob because a radio report mistakenly blamed the US for the seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca; actions that were carried out by a radical Islamic faction Grand Mosque Seizure. Two Americans and two Pakistani members of the embassy staff were killed.
            * 1979 – U.S. embassy in Tripoli also burned due to the mistaken information about the Grand Mosque Seizure.

          • kirby1

            95% of Violent Conflicts Around The World are Muslim.
            Country and Main religious groups involved
            1. Afghanistan Extreme radical Fundamentalist Muslim terrorist groups & non-Muslim Osama bin Laden heads a terrorist group called Al Quada (The Source) whose headquarters were in Afghanistan.
            2. Bosnia Serbian Orthodox Christians, Roman Catholic, Muslims
            3. Cote d’Ivoire Muslims, Indigenous, Christians
            4. Cyprus Christians & Muslims
            5. East Timor Christians & Muslims
            6. Indonesia, province of Ambon Christians & Muslims
            7. Kashmir Hindus and Muslims
            8. Kosovo Serbian Orthodox Christians, Muslims
            9. Kurdistan Christians, Muslims Assaults on Christians (Protestant, Chaldean Catholic & Assyrian Orthodox). Bombing campaign underway.
            10. Macedonia Macedonian Orthodox Christians & Muslims
            11. Middle East Jews, Muslims, &Christians
            12. Nigeria Christians, Animists, & Muslims
            13. Pakistan Suni & Shi’ite Muslims
            14. Philippines Christians & Muslims
            15. Russia, Chechnya Russian Orthodox Christians, Muslims. The Russian army attacked the breakaway region. Muslims had allegedly blown up buildings in Moscow. Many atrocities have been alleged.
            16. Serbia, province of Vojvodina Serbian Orthodox & Roman Catholics
            17. Sri Lanka Buddhists & Hindus Tamils
            Additional conflicts
            19. Thailand: Pattani province: Buddists and Muslims 20. Bangladesh: Muslim-Hindu (Bengalis) and Buddists (Chakmas) 21. Tajikistan: intra-Islamic conflict

          • kirby1

            Hey barry where did you go?

          • kirby1

            The history of the Palestinian and Nazzzi

            Haj Amin Al Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, forged a pact with Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941, one week before the Wannasee conference, originally scheduled for December 7, 1941, yet was postponed by one month, due to the attack on Pearl Harbor on that very day.
            The protocols of the Hitler-Mufti pact that were presented as evidence against the Mufti in the Nuremberg war crimes trials explicitly state that Hitler would exterminate the Jews in Europe, while the Mufti would enlist Nazi aid to exterminate Jews in Palestine, so as to establish a “Judenrein” state of Palestine.
            To that end, the Mufti ensconced himself in Hitler’s bunker, from where he recruited an Islamic unit of the Waffen SS, which actively engaged in the mass murder of Jews, while issuing Arabic language appeals on Nazi radio which incited Moslems to join the Nazi cause and to prepare for mass murder of Jews in Palestine.
            The Protocols of the Nuremberg conviction of the Mufti were published in the 1946 book, Mufti of Jerusalem, authored by Journalist Maurice Pearlman, who was appointed in 1948 as the first director of the Israel Government Press Office.
            Pearlman cited affidavits of senior SS prosecution witnesses who testified that the Mufti, working directly under Eichmann and Himmler, identified the Mufti’s instrumental role in making sure that millions of Jews were murdered, and not ransomed.

          • kirby1

            American tax dollars illegally given to Palestinian terrorist

            If you blow up children, disembowel pregnant women, and stab Jews and American tourists to death, you are legally entitled to an official Palestinian government stipend for the rest of your life. Even if you don’t survive your own attack, your family will thank you. They’ll get the money in your stead.
            This is all official Palestinian government policy. To call it abhorrent is an understatement. But far worse, it makes every American taxpayer complicit in acts of terrorism.
            That this has gone on since the Oslo Accords of the 1990s is shocking enough. But even more surprising is how successive American administrations have done nothing to stop it.

          • kirby1

            Hey Barry come back, don’t you want to talk about the issues instead of your paranoia?

          • kirby1

            Hey Barry, where did you go🤣🤣🤣

          • kirby1

            FACT

            The Palestinian Authority has become a criminal society, and can be compared to prewar Germany when the Nazis transformed their population into genocidal barbarians by depicting Jews as subhuman. The Palestinians depict Jews as “the offspring of apes and pigs” and call for their extermination. This is not even done subtly, but with blatant statements to this effect emanating daily from religious and political leaders and accessible from vast documentary sources compiled by Palestinian Media Watch, MEMRI and others.
            A society in which children from kindergarten are brainwashed into believing that the highest goal in Islam is to achieve martyrdom in the course of killing Jews can only be described as criminal.
            The demonization of Israel and manifestations of the culture of death are promoted without inhibition by the leadership, the mullahs in the mosques and the state-controlled media. They amount to direct incitement for individuals to strike out and kill Jews in concert or randomly. The “heroic” scenes of youngsters stabbing Jews, the praise by Abbas himself of martyrs “with holy blood” and the totally contrived religious frenzy accusing Israelis of planning to destroy Al-Aqsa Mosque, coalesce into a witch’s brew of primeval rage and hatred.
            https://www. algemeiner. com/2016/08/26/exposin

          • kirby1

            FACT

            We only need to look at the birthplaces of the most infamous early Palestinian leaders to realise many of the Palestinians are not indigenous:
            Yasser Arafat, PLO Chairman, PNA president, Leader of Fatah and the Palestinian people – born 1929 in Cairo, Egypt
            Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, national hero and founder of The Black Hand – born 1882 in Jableh, Syria
            Ahmad Shukeiri, chairman of PLO – born 1908 in Tebnine, Lebanon
            Ahmed Hilmi Pasha, Prime-Minister All-Palestine Government – born in 1883, Sidon, Lebanon
            Abu Abbas, founder of the PLF – born 1948 in Damascus, Syria
            Fawzi al-Qawuqji, Palestine Field Commander of Arab Liberation Army – born 1890 in Tripoli, Lebanon
            Faisal Abdel Qader Al-Husseini –born 1948 in Baghdad, Iraq
            Nayef Hawatmeh, General Secretary of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine – born 1938 in Salt, Jordan
            Mahmoud al-Zahar, co-founder of Hamas – born 1945 in Cairo, Egypt.

          • kirby1

            Hey Barry, you cap shift key is stuck, where did you go?
            Don’t you want to talk about REAL middle East issues.

          • Barzini

            According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy, the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.

          • kirby1

            “Palestinian” politician Zouhair Moussein told the Dutch newspaper Trouw in 1977 (Israel Matzav):
            “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.
            “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jersusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The

          • kirby1

            Israel “Palestine” in the 1800s – massive Arab immigration following Jews’ return = the true origin of the (today’s) so called “Palestinians”
            How odd that such last names as al-Masri (the Egyptian,), al-Djazair (the Algerian), el-Mughrabi (the Moroccan), al-Yamani (the Yemenite) and even al-Afghani are so common among those claiming to be “Palestinians.”
            Today’s Palestinians are immigrants from many nations: “Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudaneese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, Tartars, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians, Copts, Maronites, and many others.” (DeHass, History, p. 258. John of Wurzburg list from Reinhold Rohricht edition, pp. 41, 69).
            There are villages populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire in the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Circassians, and Egyptians. -Parkes, James William, History of the Peoples of Palestine, Hammondsworth, Great Britain, 1970, p. 212.
            There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece, and Italy, Turkomen settlers, a fairly large Afghan colony, Motawila, immigrants from Persia, tribes of Kurds, a Bosnian colony, Circassian settlements, a large Algerian element, Sudanese… -Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1911 ed

          • Barzini

            So what? What’s your point? They were living there…..

            They were then brutally ethnically cleansed by AshkeNazi Jews who were living in Europe and decided in the late 19th century to ‘reclaim’ Palestine

            They have lost everything to non Semites from Europe

          • kirby1

            Foreign Arab and foreign Muslim immigration:
            Over 100,000 or at least 150,000 (to some estimates, such as the testimony given in the U.S. Congress in 1939) have immigrated during the British Mandate alone, or during a 17 Years old period.
            At least 50,000 or more have immigrated from Hauran, Syria alone.
            Immigrants include: Arab – Egyptians (mainly in the early 1800s), Syrian, Algerian, Sudanese, S. Arabians. Other Muslims from: Bosnia during the 1800s and fascist Nazi Slavic-Muslims after WW2 [this Slavic mix might explain the phenomenon of lighter skinned small group among those calling themselves “Palestinians”].
            ‘Arab Palestine’ was always believed to be of a mixture of people, passing through it by trade, invasion, conquest, etc. From Arabia and elsewhere.
            Basically, today’s so called “Palestinians” [who, up to the 1960s were referred to either South Syrians prior to the 1920s, or plain Arabs, or more specifically Palestine Arabs, after the French removed Emir Faisal, from Damascus in 1920] since the late 1960s have adopted this title to be theirs exclusively] comprise a salad mixture of: Syrian Arabs, Saudi Arabs, Sudanese [Afro-]Arabs, Egyptian, Turkish, Kurdish, Bosnian, Algerian and others (which explains their surnames – telling of their origin/original land). Yet, this ‘mixture’ was never cohesive, nor did it ever before “see” itself as a “nation.”

          • Barzini

            Are you saying that they therefore deserved to lose their homes to white immigrants from Europe and America?

          • kirby1

            Arab-American historian and Princeton University professor, Philip Hitti, testifying before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, “There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ in history, absolutely not.” And so, if there was no “Palestine” in the pre-1948 Arab consciousness, there was no Palestinian people.
            There is no such thing as an Arab “Palestinian.” Before Israel’s statehood in 1948, the name “Palestinian” meant a Jewish person living in that land, not an Arab. The word Palestinian became associated with Arabs only later, when Yasser Arafat artificially created a new so-called nation of Arab “Palestinians,” many of whom came from and have direct relatives in neighboring countries, such as Jordan or Egypt. By 1948 enough Jewish people had returned to the land to establish the modern Jewish state of Israel. So all the world should know that there never was a “Palestinian Arab” state, nor even a “Palestinian Arab” people. They should know that all the Arabs living in the Israeli territories came from neighboring Arab states.

          • Barzini

            So 700,000 people deserved to lose their homes to non-Semitic immigrants from Russia, Eastern Europe and America?

          • kirby1

            In 1860, entire Algerian tribes immigrated en masse to Safed. The Muslims of Safed, are “mostly descended from these Moorish settlers and from Kurds that came earlier to the city.”
-De Haas, Jacob, History of Palestine, The Last Two Thousand Years, New York, 1934, p. 425.
            “I learn of the arrival of about 6,000 of the Beni Sukhr Arabs at Tiberias who are very seldom seen this side of the Jordan.”
-British Consul James Finn in apers Relating to the Distubances in Syria, no. 2, June 1860, p. 35.
            After 1870, “the [Turkish] forward policy included…the planting of Circassian colonies in the country.”
-Smith, CG in Studies on Palestine During the Ottoman Period, Jerusalem, 1975, p. 93.
            “The Arabs would have sat in the dark forever had not the Zionist engineers harnessed the Jordan river for electrification. Now they swarm into Palestine in seeking the light.”
- Winston Churchill, 1922 “A Peace to End All Peace”
            “This illegal [Arab] immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.”
-Palestine Royal Commission Report, London: 1937
            “So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.”
-Winston Churchill, 1939.

          • Barzini

            Here’s something else that Winston Churchill said:

            “There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others.

            With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders.

            In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.

            The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.

            Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.”

          • kirby1

            So called #Palestinians In their own words:
            “We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.” (First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations, February 1919)

          • Barzini

            But there were 700,000 people living on the land – call them Martians for all I care

            Are you saying that they deserved to lose their land to Russians?

          • kirby1

            PLO leader Zuheir Mohsen tells the truth in 1977 about the invention of “Palestine” as part of the struggle against Israel: “The Palestinian people does not exist. … In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan … cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

          • Barzini

            Who cares what they are called?

            I’m asking you why you think millions of Yiddish speaking Eastern Europeans had the right to take the land and homes of 700,000 people who were living there

          • kirby1

            In their own words:
            “There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.”
            “Palestine and Transjordan are one.”

          • Barzini

            There were 700,000 people there

            Why was it OK to take their land – that’s all I want to know

          • kirby1

            In Arab societies, the basic expectation for Palestinians is that they should be sacrificing everything to destroy The Enemy and redeem Arab pride; that is simply their “role” in Arab society. There is little room in this bloody vision for living normal lives in other Arab countries, for wanting to get normal jobs there, for wanting to raise normal families there – or, indeed, for supporting peace with Israel.
            Palestinians are respected in the Arab world when they “do their job” and attack Israel – even when this “job” is self-destructive and wasteful. The adulation lavished on Palestinian terrorists by much of the Arab media epitomizes this trend. When Palestinians diverge from this self-destructive path and try to have normal lives instead, Arab society spits on them, because they are not doing their “job.” In the Arab world, Palestine is The Cause, and Palestinians are not allowed to be normal people. They are required to sacrifice everything for the sake of Arab pride. Of course, some Palestinians in Syria, Lebanon, etc. do overcome these expectations and live normal lives – though they are expected to hate Israel with a passion, and many do. Expectations only affect averages, after all.
            Palestinian leaders are directly complicit in creating the horrible expectations that plague Palestinians today. For decades, Palestinian leaders extorted money and influence from Arab societies, reinforcing at every opportunity the “historic” role of their people. And then they used the money and weapons to destabilize Jordan and Lebanon. But most importantly, they failed to destroy Israel. They failed to even slow Israel down. They didn’t do their “job.” And Arab societies despise them for it.

          • kirby1

            1963: On May 15, 1948, “the mufti of Jerusalem appealed to the Arabs of Palestine to leave the country, because the Arab armies were about to enter and fight in their stead.”

            1953: “By spreading rumors of Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., [our leaders] instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy.”

            1951: “Who brought the Palestinians to Lebanon as refugees …? The Arab states, and Lebanon amongst them, did it.”

            1949: “The Arab states … encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies.”

            1948: “The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the act of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state.”

          • kirby1

            Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
            In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
            It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
            The fact that these events have been obscured has served in the campaign to delegitimize Israel, and therefore to a large extent, the same population that suffered this oppression. The fate of Palestinian refugees, their proclaimed innocence, and the injustice they endured form the main thrust of this delegitimization. The Jewish refugees have suffered more than the Palestinian refugees and undergone greater spoliations. However, they became citizens of the countries of refuge, especially Israel and France, while Palestinians were ostracized from the Arab nations.

          • kirby1

            The Palestinian Authority has become a criminal society, and can be compared to prewar Germany when the Nazis transformed their population into genocidal barbarians by depicting Jews as subhuman. The Palestinians depict Jews as “the offspring of apes and pigs” and call for their extermination. This is not even done subtly, but with blatant statements to this effect emanating daily from religious and political leaders and accessible from vast documentary sources compiled by Palestinian Media Watch, MEMRI and others.
            A society in which children from kindergarten are brainwashed into believing that the highest goal in Islam is to achieve martyrdom in the course of killing Jews can only be described as criminal.
            The demonization of Israel and manifestations of the culture of death are promoted without inhibition by the leadership, the mullahs in the mosques and the state-controlled media. They amount to direct incitement for individuals to strike out and kill Jews in concert or randomly. The “heroic” scenes of youngsters stabbing Jews, the praise by Abbas himself of martyrs “with holy blood” and the totally contrived religious frenzy accusing Israelis of planning to destroy Al-Aqsa Mosque, coalesce into a witch’s brew of primeval rage and hatred.
            The PA provides generous state salaries to terrorists apprehended by Israelis, and if they are killed, their families are remunerated — from funds provided by Western countries. Religious and political leadership at all levels sanctifies terrorists as heroes and national martyrs. City squares, schools and even football clubs are named in their honor.
            The barbarism imbibed by the Palestinians is reflected in the street celebrations that erupt spontaneously with every murder of an Israeli. Even more nauseating are the repeated displays on TV of mothers expressing pride that one of their children had become a martyr and usually expressing hope that her other children would follow the example.

          • Barzini

            The Palestinians are upset at losing their homes to immigrants from Russian and Eastern Europe

            So would any human being

          • kirby1

            Zahir Muhse’in, a member of the PLO’s Executive Committee, stated:
            The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.
            In addition to verifying that the “Palestinians” are an invented people, Muhse’in also tells us why they were invented: “Only for political and tactical reasons…to oppose Zionism.”
            Palestinian ambassador reiterates call for a Jew-free Palestinian state

          • kirby1

            Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries: from Morocco to Iran, from Turkey to Yemen, including places where they had lived for twenty centuries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and Canada. Today, they and their descendants form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.

          • kirby1

            The Palestinian refugee issue originated in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, when five Arab armies invaded the State of Israel just hours after it was established. Palestinian Arabs who fled did so to avoid the ongoing war or at the urging of Arab leaders, and expected to return after a quick and certain Arab victory over the new Jewish state.
            The Arab nations refused to absorb these Palestinians into their societies and they were instead settled into refugee camps, insisting that citizen and integration would undermine the refugees’ right to return to their homes in Palestine. Only Jordan’s King Abdullah conferred citizenship on the 200,000 Palestinian living in Jordan.

          • kirby1

            We only need to look at the birthplaces of the most infamous early Palestinian leaders to realise many of the Palestinians are not indigenous:
            Yasser Arafat, PLO Chairman, PNA president, Leader of Fatah and the Palestinian people – born 1929 in Cairo, Egypt
            Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, national hero and founder of The Black Hand – born 1882 in Jableh, Syria
            Ahmad Shukeiri, chairman of PLO – born 1908 in Tebnine, Lebanon
            Ahmed Hilmi Pasha, Prime-Minister All-Palestine Government – born in 1883, Sidon, Lebanon
            Abu Abbas, founder of the PLF – born 1948 in Damascus, Syria
            Fawzi al-Qawuqji, Palestine Field Commander of Arab Liberation Army – born 1890 in Tripoli, Lebanon
            Faisal Abdel Qader Al-Husseini –born 1948 in Baghdad, Iraq
            Nayef Hawatmeh, General Secretary of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine – born 1938 in Salt, Jordan
            Mahmoud al-Zahar, co-founder of Hamas – born 1945 in Cairo, Egypt.

          • kirby1

            Today’s so called “Palestinians” [who, up to the 1960s were referred to either South Syrians prior to the 1920s, or plain Arabs, or more specifically Palestine Arabs, after the French removed Emir Faisal, from Damascus in 1920] since the late 1960s have adopted this title to be theirs exclusively] comprise a salad mixture of: Syrian Arabs, Saudi Arabs, Sudanese [Afro-]Arabs, Egyptian, Turkish, Kurdish, Bosnian, Algerian and others (which explains their surnames – telling of their origin/original land). Yet, this ‘mixture’ was never cohesive, nor did it ever before “see” itself as a “nation.”

          • Barzini

            So what?

            They were living there and were forced off the land – are you claiming that they had no right to live there?

            There land has been taken by White immigrants from places like Russia and America with no ties of any kind to the Middle East

          • kirby1

            There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it.” – Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader
            “There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.” – Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat

          • Barzini

            But you do agree that 700,000 people were living there and have been displaced by millions of immigrants from Russia and Eastern Europe?

            Are you saying that they somehow deserved to lose their homes to these Eastern Europeans?

          • kirby1

            The PA fantasizes that today’s Palestinians are descended from a tribe of ancient Canaan, the Jebusites; in fact, they are overwhelmingly the offspring of invaders and immigrants seeking economic opportunities. Against this tableau of unceasing conquest, violence, and overthrow,
            Zionist efforts to build a presence in the Holy Land until 1948 stand out as astonishingly mild, mercantile rather than military. Two great empires, the Ottomans and the British, ruled Eretz Yisrael. In contrast, Zionists lacked military power. They could not possibly achieve statehood through conquest. Instead, they purchased land. Acquiring property dunam by dunam, farm by farm, house by house, lay at the heart of the Zionist enterprise until 1948

          • kirby1

            House Newt Gingrich, did something revolutionary. He told the truth about the Palestinians. In an interview with The Jewish Channel, Gingrich said that the Palestinians are an “invented” people, “who are in fact Arabs.”
            His statement about the Palestinians was entirely accurate. At the end of 1920, the “Palestinian people” was artificially carved out of the Arab population of “Greater Syria.” “Greater Syria” included present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Jordan. That is, the Palestinian people were invented 91 years ago. Moreover, as Gingrich noted, the term “Palestinian people” only became widely accepted after 1977.
            As Daniel Pipes chronicled in a 1989 article on the subject in The Middle East Quarterly, the local Arabs in what became Israel opted for a local nationalistic “Palestinian” identity in part due to their sense that their brethren in Syria were not sufficiently committed to the eradication of Zionism.

          • Barzini

            Are you saying that they therefore deserved to lose their homes to Russian immigrants?

          • kirby1

            In their own words:
            “There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.”
            “Palestine and Transjordan are one.”

          • Barzini

            So you are saying that 700,000 deserved to lose their homes and land to Russian immigrants?

          • kirby1

            Israel-haters talk as if the Jews are a recent arrival in the region.
            The entry for JERUSALEM in the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica shows a different story.
            Jerusalem in 1905 was 67 percent Jewish, 22 percent Christian, 12 percent Muslim.
            The Middle East in 1914.
            Israel is just a region in the Ottoman Empire.
            There is no country called “Palestine”.
            Bruce Thornton, Dec 2011: “The truly “ignorant,” however, are those who have bought the “Palestinian homeland” propaganda. Where was all this talk about a homeland for the Palestinians in 1948, when the Arab armies invaded Israel? Their aim was not to create a Palestinian state, but rather to carve up the rest of British Mandatory Palestine … “Abdullah [ruler of Transjordan] was to swallow up the central hill regions of Palestine . . . The Egyptians would get the Negev. The Galilee would go to Syria, except that the coastal part as far as Acre would be added to the Lebanon.” Until 1967, the so-called “West Bank” was part of Jordan, but none of the Arab nations agitated for the creation of a Palestinian state. The “Palestinian homeland” became a tactical weapon after violence failed to achieve the real aim, the destruction of Israel.”

          • Barzini

            According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy, the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.

          • kirby1

            So called #Palestinians In their own words:
            “We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.” (First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations, February 1919)

          • Barzini

            Who cares what they are called

            They are people and were living on the land and have been displaced by Europeans immigrants

            Why do you think this is OK?

          • kirby1

            In their own words:
            “We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.” (First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations, February 1919)
            The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said,
            “Palestine was part of the Province of Syria,” and that, “politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity.”
            In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine:
            “There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.”
            “Palestine and Transjordan are one.”
            King Abdullah, Arab League meeting in Cairo,12 April 1948
            So the Arabs in the 1940s did not notice any “Palestinians”. Moreover, they did not “notice” any “Palestine” either!
            Ok. In the 40s, the Arab politicians did not find any “Palestinian people”. It’s no surprise; nobody could find them.
            But maybe they “found” this mysterious “Palestinian people” later? They did not.
            Yasser ArafatSyrian President Hafez Assad addressing the Palestinian leader, the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), President of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) and “Father of the Palestinian People” Yasser Arafat, explained to him:
            “You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.”
            Of course, the Palestinian leader, “Father of the Palestinian People” and so on, rejected these insinuations with indignation and… Actually, no, he did not.
            Moreover, Arafat himself made a definitive and unequivocal statement along the same lines as late as 1993, when he declared that,
            “The question of borders doesn’t interest us… From the Arab standpoint, we mustn’t talk about borders. Palestine is nothing but a drop in an enormous ocean. Our nation is the Arabic nation that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea and beyond it…The P.L.O. is fighting Israel in the name of Pan-Arabism. What you call “Jordan” is nothing more than Palestine.”
            Not long ago, Azmi Bishara (the ex-Knesset member exiled from Israel for passing sensitive information to Hezbollah during the Second Lebanon War) who is anything except Israel’s friend said the same: there is no Palestinian people.
            “The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”
            – King Hussein of Jordan, in 1981
            “Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,”
            Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly was quoted as saying on February 2, 1970.
            Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan declared in 1980,
            “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”

          • Barzini

            So that justifies 700,000 people losing their homes and land to non-Semitic Eastern European immigrants?

            I don’t follow your logic

          • kirby1

            The [refugee] problem was a direct consequence of the war that the Palestinians and surrounding Arab states had launched.
            Israeli historian Benny Morris
            In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948—49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:
            Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return.
            The Secretary of the Arab League Office in London, Edward Atiyah, wrote in his book, The Arabs: this wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boastings of an unrealistic Arabic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and retake possession of their country.
            Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin, (February 19, 1949).
            One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.
            The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the act of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state. The Arab states agree upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the solution of the problem.
            Emile Ghoury, secretary of the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, in an interview with the Beirut Telegraph Sept. 6, 1948
            The Arab state which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees.
            The Jordanian daily newspaper Falastin, Feb. 19, 1949
            Who brought the Palestinians to Lebanon as refugees, suffering now from the malign attitude of newspapers and communal leaders, who have neither honor nor conscience? Who brought them over in dire straits and penniless, after they lost their honor? The Arab states, and Lebanon amongst them, did it.
            The Beirut Muslim weekly Kul-Shay, Aug. 19, 1951
            The 15th May, 1948, arrived On that day the mufti of Jerusalem appealed to the Arabs of Palestine to leave the country, because the Arab armies were about to enter and fight in their stead.
            The Cairo daily Akhbar el Yom, Oct. 12, 1963
            For the flight and fall of the other villages it is our leaders who are responsible because of their dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs By spreading rumors of Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., they instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy.
            The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953

          • kirby1

            Most Palestinian Arabs are descendants of the 1845-1947 Muslim migrants from the Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, as well as from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, Bosnia, the Caucasus, Turkmenistan, Kurdistan, India, Afghanistan and Balochistan.
            Arab migrant workers were imported by the Ottoman Empire and by the British Mandate (which defeated the Ottomans in 1917) to work on infrastructure projects: The port of Haifa, the Haifa-Qantara (1918), Haifa-Edrei (1905), Haifa-Nablus (1914) and Jerusalem-Jaffa (1892) railroads, military installations, roads, quarries, reclamation of wetlands, etc. Legal and illegal Arab laborers were also attracted by the relative economic boom, stimulated by the annual Jewish immigration beginning in 1882.

          • Barzini

            So what? I’m not claiming otherwise….

            Why does that mean they deserved to lose their land to non-Semitic Russian immigrants?

          • kirby1

            Palestinians are the only refugee status that is inherited from one generation to another over several generations. All that is need was to have a ancestor that spent 3 years in the British mandate area. Invented in 1964 by the Egyptian Arafat the false Palestinian (i.e. Syrian, Egyptian, Lebanese….) narrative has been disseminated.
            The problem started with Arab opposition to Jewish settlement in the area of Palestine even before the establishment of the State of Israel. As a result of the violent Arab Revolt of 1936-39, mainly led and orchestrated by the Arab High Command under Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, over 10 percent of the adult population was killed, injured, or imprisoned.
            This Arab wave of terror directed against British personnel, Jews, and other Arabs opposed to the Mufti and his followers resulted in the first wave of refugees, perhaps as many as 40,000 Arabs who fled the area.
            But the main refugee problem was caused by the militant Arab activity in the mid 1940s and then by the 1948-49 War that was initiated by the Arabs.

          • Barzini

            Jews have claimed to be refugees for thousands of years

            Millions of white people with Russian surnames who can’t speak a Semitic language claim to have a ‘right to return’ to a small bit of land in the Middle East while simultaneously denying that same right of return to the 700,000 Semites who were actually living on the land

          • kirby1

            “Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is one people and one land, with one history and one and the same fate.” -Prince Hassan, brother of King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2 February 1970

          • kirby1

            “There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.” – Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat

          • Barzini

            It’s been fun, I need to go now

            If you are able to explain why 700,000 human beings deserved to lose their land to millions of non-Semitic European immigrants please let me know

            That’s the only question I have for you and you continuously refuse to answer it – I wonder why?

          • kirby1

            Jawad Al-Bashiti, Palestinian journalist in Jordan:
            “Remind me of one real cause from all the factors that have caused the ‘Palestinian Catastrophe’ [the establishment of Israel and the creation of the refugee problem], and I will remind you that it still exists… The reasons for the Palestinian Catastrophe are the same reasons that have produced and are still producing our Catastrophes today.
            During the Little Catastrophe, meaning the Palestinian Catastrophe, the following happened: the first war between Arabs and Israel had started and the ‘Arab Salvation Army’ came and told the Palestinians: ‘We have come to you in order to liquidate the Zionists and their state. Leave your houses and villages, you will return to them in a few days safely. Leave them so we can fulfill our mission (destroy Israel) in the best way and so you won’t be hurt.’ It became clear already then, when it was too late, that the support of the Arab states (against Israel) was a big illusion. The Arabs fought as if intending to cause the ‘Palestinian Catastrophe.'”
            [Al-Ayyam, May 13, 2008

          • kirby1

            Mahmoud Al-Habbash, Palestinian journalist in official PA daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida:
            “The leaders and the elites promised us at the beginning of the ‘Catastrophe’ in 1948 that the duration of the exile would not be long, and that it would not last more than a few days or months, and afterwards the refugees would return to their homes, which most of them did not leave only until they put their trust in those “Orkubian” promises made by the leaders and the political elites. Afterwards, days passed, months, years and decades, and the promises were lost with the strain of the succession of events…”
            [Ed.:The term “Orkubian” invokes Orkub, a figure from Arab tradition who was known for breaking his promises and for his lies.]
            [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Dec. 13, 2006

          • kirby1

            Ibrahim Sarsur, Head of the Islamic Movement in Israel:
            An Arab viewer called Palestinian Authority TV and quoted his father, saying that in 1948 the Arab District Officer ordered all Arabs to leave Palestine or be labeled traitors. In response, Ibrahim Sarsur, now Arab Member of Israeli Parliament Knesset, then Head of the Islamic Movement in Israel, cursed those Arab leaders, thus acknowledging Israel’s historical record.

          • kirby1

            Fuad Abu Hajla, senior Palestinian journalist:
            Fuad Abu Hajla, then a regular columnist in the official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, wrote an article before an Arab Summit, criticizing Arab leaders. One of the failures he cited, in the name of a prisoner, was that an earlier generation of Arab leaders had “forced” them to leave Israel in 1948.

          • kirby1

            ‘We are solidly and permanently determined to fight to the last man against the existence in our country of any Jewish state, no matter how small it is,’ Jamal al-Husseini, Vice-President of the Arab Higher Committee (AHC), the effective government of the Palestinian Arabs, told the General Assembly as it was about to cast its vote. ‘If such a state is to be established, it can only be established over our dead bodies.’ And an AHC circular was even more outspoken. ‘The Arabs have taken into their own hands the final solution of the Jewish problem,’ it read. ‘The problem will be solved only in blood and fire. The Jews will soon be driven out.’

          • Barzini

            Why does that mean it was OK for millions of Eastern Europeans to take the land of 700,000 human beings?

          • kirby1

            Lets me correct you false (fabricated) assertions:

            The Peel Commission’s report found that Arab complaints about Jewish land acquisition were baseless. It pointed out that “much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased….there was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land.” Moreover, the Commission found the shortage was “due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” The report concluded that the presence of Jews in Palestine, along with the work of the British Administration, had resulted in higher wages, an improved standard of living and ample employment opportunities.

            In his memoirs, Transjordan’s King Abdullah wrote:

            It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping (author’s emphasis).

            Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.”

            It was only after the Jews had bought all of this available land that they began to purchase cultivated land. Many Arabs were willing to sell because of the migration to coastal towns and because they needed money to invest in the citrus industry.

            When John Hope Simpson arrived in Palestine in May 1930, he observed: “They [Jews] paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay.”

            In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness and eventually offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

          • Barzini

            The Jews owned only 6% of Israel in 1947

            Once again, I’ll ask you my question for roughly the 29th time

            Why was it OK for millions of atheist, Yiddish speaking, non-Semite Eastern Europeans to take the homes of 700,000 Semites

          • kirby1

            The Jews owned only 6% of Israel and Arabs own 12% the rest was goverment land. The Palis should have accepted a state (in addition to the Palestinian state that is now known as Jordan) at the time instead of rejecting it. Maybe the Palestinian militia and 5 Arab armies shouldn’t have tried to destroy the newly formed Jewish State only 3 years after the Holocaust with the express purpose of finishing what Hit!we started.

          • Barzini

            They were being invaded by hundreds of thousands (now millions) of Eastern Europeans

            700,000 of them lost their land and homes to these mostly atheist and non-Semite immigrants

            I’ll ask once again: What gave these millions of AshkeNazis the right to take the homes and land of 700,000 human beings?

            As for the Holohoax – Lol, what are you 12 years-old? Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?

          • kirby1

            False, there was no invasion. there were more Arab immigrants to the region than Jewish ones. It was the Muslim-Arab attemp at ethnic cleansing as is being continued even today that targeting middle eastern Christians. The same Muslim-Arab ethnic cleansing that successfully wiped out long-standing Jewish communities of the middle east totaling 850,000.

          • Barzini

            There were only 59,000 Jews living in the whole of Palestine in 1914 – 94% of the population was Muslim

            For what possible reason could millions of Eastern Europeans claim to have the right to take the land and homes of these Muslims?

          • kirby1

            And again, The Palis should have accepted a state (in addition to the Palestinian state that is now known as Jordan) at the time instead of rejecting it. Maybe the Palestinian militia and 5 Arab armies shouldn’t have tried to destroy the newly formed Jewish State only 3 years after the Holocaust with the express purpose of finishing what Hit!we started.

            Take your issue with those responsible, the Arab leads who told them to leave, the Arab leaders who told them to kill Jews, the Palestinians who started a war against Jews. The Palestinians who are more interested in destroying a country that building one.

          • Barzini

            Why is it OK for millions of non-Semite Eastern European immigrants to take the homes and land of 700,000 Semites?

          • kirby1

            And again to answer you, when you buy land you have a right to it.

            Lets me correct you false (fabricated) assertions:
            The Peel Commission’s report found that Arab complaints about Jewish land acquisition were baseless. It pointed out that “much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased….there was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land.” Moreover, the Commission found the shortage was “due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” The report concluded that the presence of Jews in Palestine, along with the work of the British Administration, had resulted in higher wages, an improved standard of living and ample employment opportunities.
            In his memoirs, Transjordan’s King Abdullah wrote:
            It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping (author’s emphasis).
            Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.”
            It was only after the Jews had bought all of this available land that they began to purchase cultivated land. Many Arabs were willing to sell because of the migration to coastal towns and because they needed money to invest in the citrus industry.
            When John Hope Simpson arrived in Palestine in May 1930, he observed: “They [Jews] paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay.”
            In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness and eventually offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

          • Barzini

            They only purchased 6% of the land

          • kirby1

            And again to answer you

            And over 80% always belonged to the state (Ottoman, Britain but not Palestinian as no such state existed) and now Israel.

            In addition to the territory the Palestinians turn down in 1948, they did receive 77% of the British Mandate that became the Palestinian state of Jordan.

            Arab continuous attempts at Israel’s destruction has not been in the best interest of the Palestinians.

          • Barzini

            You keep saying that millions of Eastern Europeans had the right to take land away from 700,000 people because they bought the land

            But they didn’t – as you well know

          • kirby1

            “Take land”

            Lets me correct you false (fabricated) assertions:
            The Peel Commission’s report found that Arab complaints about Jewish land acquisition were baseless. It pointed out that “much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased….there was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land.” Moreover, the Commission found the shortage was “due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” The report concluded that the presence of Jews in Palestine, along with the work of the British Administration, had resulted in higher wages, an improved standard of living and ample employment opportunities.
            In his memoirs, Transjordan’s King Abdullah wrote:
            It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping (author’s emphasis).
            Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.”
            It was only after the Jews had bought all of this available land that they began to purchase cultivated land. Many Arabs were willing to sell because of the migration to coastal towns and because they needed money to invest in the citrus industry.
            When John Hope Simpson arrived in Palestine in May 1930, he observed: “They [Jews] paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay.”
            In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness and eventually offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

          • kirby1

            On November 29, 1947, by a two-thirds majority vote, the United Nations’ General Assembly sanctioned the partitioning of western Palestine into a Jewish and Arab state.

            The Arabs, who immediately declared a holy war against the Jews, rejected this vote.

            The Mandate ended at midnight on May 14, 1948 with the establishment of the Jewish state and the Arab war against the Jews continued.

            Since then, Israel has been fighting for its very existence and continues to do so on a daily basis.

          • kirby1

            88% of the land was not owned by the Arab Palestinians.

          • kirby1

            Contrary to the established Palestinian line that Israeli forces expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in 1948-49, these voices agree that Arab emigration from the nascent Israel was done at the behest of orders from Arab leaders. Some snippets:

            2009: “The radio stations of the Arab regimes kept repeating to us: ‘Get away from the battle lines. It’s a matter of ten days or two weeks at the most, and we’ll bring you back.”

            2008: “The ‘Arab Salvation Army’ came and told the Palestinians: ‘We have come to you in order to liquidate the Zionists and their state. Leave your houses and villages, you will return to them in a few days safely. Leave them so we can fulfill our mission (destroy Israel) in the best way and so you won’t be hurt’.”

            2006: “The leaders and the elites promised us at the beginning of the ‘Nakba’ in 1948 that the duration of the exile would not be long, and that it would not last more than a few days or months, and afterwards the refugees would return to their homes.”

            2006: The Arab leaders announced that “The Jews attacked our region and it is better to evacuate the village and return after the battle is over.”

            2001: A letter from a Palestinian to the leaders gathered at an Arab summit in 2001: “The armies of your predecessors in the year of 1948, … forced us to leave [Israel] on the pretext of clearing the battlefields of civilians.”

            1999: “Our District Officer issued an order that whoever stays in Palestine and in Majdel [near Ashkelon in southern Israel] is a traitor.”

          • kirby1

            Overall, the number of Jews fleeing Arab countries for Israel in the years following Israel’s independence was nearly double the number of Arabs leaving Palestine. The contrast between the Jewish refugees and the Palestinian refugees grows even starker considering the difference in cultural and geographic dislocation – most of the Jewish refugees traveled hundreds or thousands of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language and lived with a vastly different culture. Most Palestinian refugees traveled but a few miles to the other side of the 1949 armistice lines while remaining inside a linguistically, culturally and ethnically similar society.

            Moreover, the value of Jewish property left behind and confiscated by the Arab governments is estimated to be at least 50 percent higher than the total value of assets lost by the Palestinian refugees. In the 1950’s, John Measham Berncastle, under the aegis of the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine, estimated that total assets lost by Palestinian refugees from 1948 – including land, buildings, movable property, and frozen bank accounts – amounted to roughly $350 million ($650 per refugee). Adding in an additional $100 million for assets lost by Palestinian refugees as a result of the Six Day War, an approximate total is $450 million – $4.4 billion in 2012 prices. By contrast, the value of assets lost by the Jewish refugees – compiled by a similar methodology – is estimated at $700 million – roughly $6.7 billion today.

          • kirby1

            Daniel Pipes chronicled in a 1989 article on the subject in The Middle East Quarterly, the local Arabs in what became Israel opted for a local nationalistic “Palestinian” identity in part due to their sense that their brethren in Syria were not sufficiently committed to the eradication of Zionism.
            Since Gingrich spoke out on Friday, his factually accurate statement has been under assault from three directions. First, it has been attacked by Palestinian apologists in the postmodernist camp. Speaking to CNN, Hussein Ibish from the American Task Force on Palestine argued that Gingrich’s statement was an outrage because while he was right about the Palestinians being an artificial people, in Ibish’s view, Israelis were just as artificial. That is, he equated the Palestinians’ 91-year-old nationalism with the Jews’ 3,500-year-old nationalism.

          • Barzini

            Why was it OK for millions of non-Semitic Eastern Europeans to take the land of 700,000 Semites?

          • kirby1

            The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.
            In addition to verifying that the “Palestinians” are an invented people, Muhse’in also tells us why they were invented: “Only for political and tactical reasons…to oppose Zionism.”
            Palestinian ambassador reiterates call for a Jew-free Palestinian state

          • Barzini

            But you agree that there were 700,00 human beings living on the land and that these 700,000 people lost their land to European immigrants?

            Why was that acceptable in your opinion?

          • kirby1

            Given that Israeli Arabs have full rights, unlike the few remaining Jews in Egypt, Jordan, Iraq… after the ethnic cleansing and the fact that Palestinians are one of the world’s fastest people, so much for “genocide”.
            Arab ethnic cleansing:
            Once upon a time the Middle East was full of Jews. Algeria had 140,000 Jews. Algeria, where are your Jews? Egypt used to have 75,000 Jews. Where are your Jews? Syria, you had tens of thousands of Jews. Where are your Jews? Iraq, you had over 135,000 Jews.
            After centuries of living as dhimmi now Middle East Arab Christians are being ethnically cleansed of the Middle East by their Muslim brothers.

          • Barzini

            Yes, now they live in Israel, in the homes of people who were ethnically cleansed by Russian immigrants

          • kirby1

            “Jordan is not just another Arab state with regard to Palestine, but rather, Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan in terms of territory, national identity, sufferings, hopes and aspirations.” -Jordanian Minister of Agriculture, 24 September 1980

          • kirby1

            “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.” – Representative of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations
            “Palestine and Jordan are one…” -King Abdullah in 1948

          • kirby1

            Overall, the number of Jews fleeing Arab countries for Israel in the years following Israel’s independence was nearly double the number of Arabs leaving Palestine. The contrast between the Jewish refugees and the Palestinian refugees grows even starker considering the difference in cultural and geographic dislocation – most of the Jewish refugees traveled hundreds or thousands of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language and lived with a vastly different culture. Most Palestinian refugees traveled but a few miles to the other side of the 1949 armistice lines while remaining inside a linguistically, culturally and ethnically similar society.

          • kirby1

            Azmi Bishara in a pre-1996 video.
            Translation: “Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian nation at all. I think there is an Arab nation. I always thought so and I did not change my mind. I do not think there is a Palestinian nation … When were there any Palestinians? Where did it come from? I think there is an Arab nation. I never turned to be a Palestinian nationalist, despite my decisive struggle against the occupation. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of Greater Syria.

          • Barzini

            We aren’t debating that, we’re debating why you seem to think that millions of Russian immigrants had the right to displace 700,000 people and take their land and their homes?

          • kirby1

            In their own words:
            “Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,”
            Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly was quoted as saying on February 2, 1970.
            Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan declared in 1980,
            “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”

          • Barzini

            Why do you keep talking about this?

            I want to know why you think it was OK for millions of Russians to take the land of 700,000 human beings?

          • kirby1

            The Palestinians in all fairness were deprived of most ordinary rights in neighboring Arab countries, as opposed to Israel’s “Arabs” who can vote and have a few reps. Life for Palestinian refugees in Lebanon denied them any political status, banking privileges, and other ins to the feeble Lebanese Confessional arrangement that was already fractured by modernity. Certainly the Palestians became embroiled in the violence, and it should be remembered the PLO organization and Arafat were forced to relocate in Lebanon immediately after attempting to take Jordan by storm. An estimated 400,000 foreign laborers, most reported as Palestinians, joined in the looting of Kuwait and were even held as participants in crimes against Kuwaitis in the aftermath of the Iraqi army’s occupation. Poverty has become a justification for crime, even if to a certain extent the Palestinians do not wish to lose their refugee status, as already presented as an item to the UN should a Palestinian state of some sort be created they would still retain refugee status.

          • kirby1

            Palestinians and their supporters also generate blame towards Israel by exaggerating and fabricating civilian suffering for the international media, which routinely proceeds to propagate these claims unquestioningly. “Pallywood” tactics include staging injuries, funerals and power blackouts, doctoring and misrepresenting photos and videos for the press, and wildly exaggerating casualty figures. Several foreign and Palestinian journalists have been threatened and attacked for reporting stories not in keeping with the desired Palestinian image.

            The mass abuse of Palestinians at the hands of Arab leaders began with the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem in the War of 1948. Before launching the war, leaders of the invading Arab armies ordered Palestinian Arabs to leave their homes so they could “obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in”. From then until today, Palestinians refugees have been denied basic rights in almost every Arab country where they have sought shelter, including Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iraq. Libya expelled 30,000 of its Palestinian refugees; Kuwait expelled over 400,000. Yasser Arafat himself said that “What Kuwait did to the Palestinian people is worse than what has been done by Israel to Palestinians in the occupied territories.”

            According to the Arab League, the explicit policy of denying Palestinians citizenship in other Arab countries and keeping them in “very bad conditions” is in order “to preserve their Palestinian identity”. An Egyptian foreign minister also openly stated that the intention in demanding the right of Palestinian refugees to return “is the extermination of Israel”.

          • kirby1

            In January 1948, the president of the World Jewish Congress, Dr. Stephen Wise, appealed to U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall: “Between 800,000 and a million Jews in the Middle East and North Africa, exclusive of Palestine, are in ‘the greatest danger of destruction’ at the hands of Moslems being incited to holy war over the Partition of Palestine … Acts of violence already perpetrated, together with those contemplated, being clearly aimed at the total destruction of the Jews, constitute genocide, which under the resolutions of the General Assembly is a crime against humanity.” In May 1948, the New York Times echoed Wise’s appeal, and ran an article headlined, “Jews in Grave Danger in all Muslim Lands: Nine Hundred Thousand in Africa and Asia face wrath of their foes.”

          • kirby1

            In 2000, more than fifty years after UNRWA’s establishment, an official PLO document reaffirmed the Arab strategy to perpetuate the refugees’ distress by keeping them in the camps: “In order to keep the refugee issue alive and prevent Israel from evading responsibility for their plight, Arab countries – with the notable exception of Jordan – have usually sought to preserve a Palestinian identity by maintaining the Palestinians’ status as refugees

          • kirby1

            Israel is perhaps the least efficient “ethnic cleanser” in the history of mankind, calumnies to the contrary notwithstanding.
            In 1947 some 740,000 Palestinians lived in the British Mandate for Palestine. Today, the Arab residents of the West Bank and Gaza, together with Arab citizens of Israel, comprise a total of over five million Palestinians (altogether over nine million people worldwide refer to themselves as Palestinian.)
            Using a popular population growth rate equation, the Palestinian growth rate has been calculated as close to double that of Asia and Africa over a comparable period of time.
            Drazen Petrovic defines ethnic cleansing as “a well-defined policy of a particular group of persons to systematically eliminate another group from a given territory.” By this definition, only one type of ethnic cleansing has occurred in the Arab-Israeli conflict – that of the Jews of Asia and North Africa. Whereas before 1948 there were nearly 900,000 Jews living in Arab lands, by 2001 only 6,500 remained.
            THOSE WHO claim Israel carried out ethnic cleansing of Arabs can point to no official command to that effect. Jewish ethnic cleansing from Arab lands, on the other hand, was often official state policy.
            Jews were formally expelled from many areas in the Arab world. The Arab League released a statement urging Arab governments to facilitate the exit of Jews from Arab countries, a resolution which was carried out through a series of punitive measures and discriminatory decrees that made it untenable for Jews to remain in their native lands.

          • Barzini

            Those who claim Germans genocided Jews can point to no official command either

          • kirby1

            Jordanians, for decades, were avid proponents of the ‘Jordan is Palestine’ position. They used that position as justification for the annexation of Judea and Samaria, arguing that Palestine was one single, indivisible unit, and that Jordan was the legitimate governing body of Palestine…
            “We are the government of Palestine, the army of Palestine and the refugees of Palestine.” -Prime Minister of Jordan, Hazza’ al-Majali, 23 August 1959

          • kirby1

            It was the Arab countries carried out ethnic cleansing and uprooted all the Jews, down to the last one, from any territory they captured in 1948 – for example, the Jordanians in Gush Etzion and Jerusalem’s Old City, and the Syrians in Masada, Sha’ar Hagolan and Mishmar Hayarden. The Jews, on the other hand, left Arabs in place in Haifa and Jaffa, and in the villages along the country’s main traffic arteries – the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv highway and the Tel Aviv-Haifa highway

          • Barry Bomba

            this Kirby smells like a paid Israeli troll. Search Paid Israeli trolls, student trolls. I see a pattern on many news stories online, here and on twitter, relating to Israel news. If you see a pattern I suggest you, we call it out. look at my response to Kirby. If calling it out, be respectful and offer some background to get the word out to the public, like I did in my response. I have seen the same information over and over again, that I could write their responses, and maybe get the job to do so

          • kirby1

            Barry, you smell like a camel.

          • Barry Bomba

            hahahahah, caught! give it up, keep on trolling!

          • kirby1

            Yep you definitely smell like camel.

          • Barry Bomba

            hahahah, oh my feelings are hurt Mr PAID TROLL
            GOOGLE PAID ISRAEL TROLLS, STUDENT TROLLS. $2000 to get started, and up to $7000

          • kirby1

            There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it.” – Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader
            “There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.” – Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat
            “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” – Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian
            “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.” – Representative of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations
            “Palestine and Jordan are one…” -King Abdullah in 1948
            “The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.” – King Hussein of Jordan, in 1981
            Jordanians, for decades, were avid proponents of the ‘Jordan is Palestine’ position. They used that position as justification for the annexation of Judea and Samaria, arguing that Palestine was one single, indivisible unit, and that Jordan was the legitimate governing body of Palestine…
            “We are the government of Palestine, the army of Palestine and the refugees of Palestine.” -Prime Minister of Jordan, Hazza’ al-Majali, 23 August 1959

          • kirby1

            Hey Barry where did you go you make an accusations and then run away.

          • kirby1

            Arabic word for slave “abeed” is still used interchangeably by Arabs in most Arab countries to refer to indigenous Africans. There is a reason that in modern Arabic parlance the word for a slave and for an indigenous African has remained almost synonymous. That reason is that after 1400 years of Arab colonialism, oppression and slavery of indigenous peoples throughout the Middle East and Africa, Arab supremacism is still at least as rampant as White supremacism was in America during the Jim Crow era. That is why in Sudan and Mauritania today Arabs still have African slaves. It is why Hamas has been engaged in human trafficking of indigenous Africans in the Sinai. It is why in just five years (between 2003 and 2008), over 300,000 Sudanese Africans were killed, 100,000 were abducted and 2.7 million were forced to become refugees, with their land appropriated for Arabs, and it is why Palestinian Authority dictator Mahmoud Abbas only a few weeks ago had no problem embracing and expressing solidarity with an (actually) genocidal ruler, the “Butcher of Darfur” Sudan’s dictator, Omar al-Bashir.

          • Barry Bomba

            Mr. Kirby, you write like a paid Israel Troll. If you aren’t one, my sincere apology, though, you may consider the job. The Israel government will pay $2000 to start, and you can do it part time, at your convenience, at home. Great job for students, and the government hires many. All you have to do is take a short course, and the money starts rolling in. There are many on the internet, because I can see a pattern, with the same propaganda points, info, and delivery, and the amount of time they are online. If you aren’t one, then I am sorry, but you sure look and sound like one.

          • kirby1

            I would think with all those preto dollars your handlers have they could hire some one better than a complete idiot.

          • Barry Bomba

            Look everyone, This proves my point It took only, a few minutes for Kirby to respond, and with the usual deflection, insult, and name calling. Another classic example of a paid troll. He didn’t deny it, and not addressing the point. Took heed all that are reading this response. I have spent my time researching this, and I encourage you all to check it out. Lets start calling it out. The Israel government spends millions on paid trolling propraganda

          • kirby1

            Well you’ve proven again that you’re an idiot,

          • Barry Bomba

            haha who is the idiot here??, I knew you would be back with a insult within 5 minutes. See Everyone reading this, I made case, thank you Mr trolll, I mean Kirby

          • kirby1

            “Haha” cool it Barry uncontrolled laughter might be the 2nd sign of dementia, the 1st being your stupid post.

          • kirby1

            The biggest lie of all. Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the “Palestinians”:
            “Masri” = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word “masri” littelery means “the egyptian” in arabic !).
            “Khamis”= Bahrain “Salem Hanna Khamis” “al-Faruqi”= Mosul,
            Iraq
”al-Araj” = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty “Hussein al-Araj”
            “al Lubnani” = the Lebanese
            “al-Mughrabi” = the Moroccan (Maghreb” – meaning “West” in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
            “al-Djazair” = the Algerian
            “al-Yamani” = the Yemeni “Issam Al Yamani”
            “al-Afghani” = the Afghan
            “al-Hindi” = the Indian “Amin al-Hindi”
            “Iraqi” = from Iraq.
            “halabi” = from Aleppo, Syria
            “El Baghdadi” = from Baghdad Iraq.
            “Tarabulsi”= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
            “Hourani” = Houran Syria.
            “al-Husayni” = Saudi Arabia.
            “Saudi” = Saudi Arabia.
”Metzarwah”= Egypt.
            “Barda—wil” = “Salah Bardawil” HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
            “Nashashibi” = Syria.
            “Bushnak” = Bosnia
”zoabi”= from Iraq: “Haneen Zoabi”.
            “Turki” = Turkey “Daud Turki”
            “al-Kurd” = Kurdistan.
            “Haddadins” = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
            “Arab Abu-Kishk” = Egypt.(Bedouins)
            “Arab al shakirat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
            “Arab al zabidat” = Egypt (Bedouins)
            “Arab al aramsha” = Egypt (Bedouins)

          • kirby1

            Nice example of taqiyya “allows, and even encourages, you to lie to achieve your goals.”

          • kirby1

            “Look everyone” who are you talking to now, that little make believe voice in your head, pathetic ,oron.

          • Barry Bomba

            hahahah your sinking fast as well with your credibility, keep it coming troll, you getting paid!

          • kirby1

            While pedophilia is an anomaly in other cultures, it is rampant in Islam.
            In Rotherham no fewer than 1,400 young women, most of them white, working-class “Christian” girls, were raped, tortured, beaten, abused, prostit uted, passed from hand to hand, and abused in almost every conceivable way by gangs of Muslim men of Pakistani background who despised their victims as “worthless.” The same basic narrative, varying only in the details, was replayed in Oxford, Birmingham, Oldham, and about 20 more medium-size English provincial towns in the last decade.

          • kirby1

            Arab colonization and oppression of Jews began a little later. In 641 C.E., the Caliph Umar decreed that Jews should be removed from all but the southern and eastern fringes of Arabia. Can anyone say “ethnic cleansing”? As for the Levant, the Arab conquest and colonization began in earnest in 634 C.E. with Jerusalem falling to the Arabs and Caliph Umar in 637 C.E. What followed for Jews under Arab (and Ottoman) colonization, including in the Jews’ indigenous homeland and holiest city, was 1400 years of institutional racism (with numerous religious apartheid laws, just like in Europe), such as the first decree in 850 C.E. that Jews had to wear a yellow badge identifying them as “inferior,” which led to the systematic oppression and massacres of Jews (for more on the oppression and massacres of Jews in Arab conquered lands
            It was the colonial powers also chose an Arabian tribe, the Hashemites, to be appointed as royalty in these new states. This is when the Saudi family came to rule Arabia, and their cousins ruling Jordan, Iraq, and other parts of the region. These royals were chosen based on one criterion only, their allegiance to the colonial powers. A relationship, which to this day has given this family a carte blanche, not only in Saudi Arabia but in world affairs.
            many of the indigenous nations of the Middle East were put under the rule of Arabs, even though they live on their ancestral land, speak their own language, and enjoy their distinct culture and ancient heritage. The Treaty of Sèvres (1920) saw the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, it was in this treaty that the region was divided into states without consideration for the ethnic groups. As a result many nations suffered, namely Kurds, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Amazighs, and others. Kurdistan which has a population of around 50 million was partitioned into 4 parts, each given away, land, stock, and barrel, to a neighbouring nation, making the new states of ‘Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey’.
            The day before the British Mandate expired (May 1948), the state of Israel was established. The very next day, four Arab armies attacked Israel, starting what is known as the Arab-Israeli war of 1948. This era saw the mass expulsion of Jews from Middle Eastern countries which have been their homes for two thousand years. So Jews escaped persecution from what they had known as ‘home’ and headed to their ancestral land, leaving behind their homes, possessions, friends, and loved ones buried in those states.

          • kirby1

            Arab-American historian and Princeton University professor, Philip Hitti, testifying before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, “There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ in history, absolutely not.” And so, if there was no “Palestine” in the pre-1948 Arab consciousness, there was no Palestinian people.
            There is no such thing as an Arab “Palestinian.” Before Israel’s statehood in 1948, the name “Palestinian” meant a Jewish person living in that land, not an Arab. The word Palestinian became associated with Arabs only later, when Yasser Arafat artificially created a new so-called nation of Arab “Palestinians,” many of whom came from and have direct relatives in neighboring countries, such as Jordan or Egypt. By 1948 enough Jewish people had returned to the land to establish the modern Jewish state of Israel. So all the world should know that there never was a “Palestinian Arab” state, nor even a “Palestinian Arab” people. They should know that all the Arabs living in the Israeli territories came from neighboring Arab states.

          • kirby1

            Israel “Palestine” in the 1800s – massive Arab immigration following Jews’ return = the true origin of the (today’s) so called “Palestinians”
            How odd that such last names as al-Masri (the Egyptian,), al-Djazair (the Algerian), el-Mughrabi (the Moroccan), al-Yamani (the Yemenite) and even al-Afghani are so common among those claiming to be “Palestinians.”
            Today’s Palestinians are immigrants from many nations: “Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudaneese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, Tartars, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians, Copts, Maronites, and many others.” (DeHass, History, p. 258. John of Wurzburg list from Reinhold Rohricht edition, pp. 41, 69).
            There are villages populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire in the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Circassians, and Egyptians. -Parkes, James William, History of the Peoples of Palestine, Hammondsworth, Great Britain, 1970, p. 212.
            There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece, and Italy, Turkomen settlers, a fairly large Afghan colony, Motawila, immigrants from Persia, tribes of Kurds, a Bosnian colony, Circassian settlements, a large Algerian element, Sudanese… -Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1911 ed

          • kirby1

            Islamization of East Jerusalem under Jordanian (a.k.a Palestinians) occupation is what occurred during the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank between 1948–1967, when Jordan sought to alter the demographics and landscape of the city to enhance its Muslim character at the expense of its Jewish and Christian ones. At this time, all Jewish residents were expelled, and restrictions were imposed on the Christian population that led many to leave the city. Ghada Hashem Talhami states that during its nineteen years of rule, the government of Jordan took actions to accentuate the spiritual Islamic status of Jerusalem.Raphael Israeli, an Israeli professor, described these measures as “Arabization”.
            Arabs claim Jerusalem as the Islamic city of Al-Quds, but there’s no record to prove that the prophet Mohammed had ever been there. His armies didn’t arrive in the city until five years after his death.
            The city of Jerusalem isn’t even mentioned in the Koran. However, the Bible mentions the city of David more than 600 times.
            In Mohammed’s lifetime, it was a fairly unimportant city in the Byzantine Empire. It was a Christian city without a single mosque.
            The Koran says that Mohammed’s dream flight took him to Al-Aqsa, which means “the farthest place.” Early Islamic scholars interpreted this to mean a heavenly place or the courtyard of Allah.
            This interpretation changed as Islam evolved into a political force. About 80 years, after Mohammed’s death, Muslim ruler Abd El-Wahd restored the church on the same site. He even kept the building’s basic structure, added a dome, then converted it into a mosque. He then named it Al-Aqsa, copying the name in the Koran.

          • kirby1

            Hey Barry, where did you go?

            When I bring up reall facts concerning the Middle East you disappeared behind you own paranoia.

          • kirby1

            National Review nailed it when he stated that the Fakestinians never had any intention of peace with Israel,it’s always been about the destruction of Israel and the Jews.
            Fact is,peace won’t come about until they realize that they keep losing more and more territory the longer they go without a real peace agreement and settled,recognized borders. Or lose any chance at a State of Palestine. Israel has been ready for peace ever since their creation back in 1947.

          • kirby1

            Hey Barry where did you go?

  • kirby1

    Fact, the PLO’s three-stage strategy for Israel’s destruction, embodied in the PLO’s 1974 decision commonly known as the Phased Plan (the text of which is below).

    The plan in brief:

    Through the “armed struggle” (i.e., terrorism), to establish an “independent combatant national authority” over any territory that is “liberated” from Israeli rule. (Article 2)

    To continue the struggle against Israel, using the territory of the national authority as a base of operations. (Article 4)

    To provoke an all-out war in which Israel’s Arab neighbors destroy it entirely (“liberate all Palestinian territory”). (Article 8)

    Today, the Phased Plan remains relevant. Speaking just after the 1993 revelation of the Israel-PLO accord, PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat announced that the historic agreement “will be a basis for an independent Palestinian state in accordance with the Palestine National Council resolution issued in 1974…. The PNC resolution issued in 1974 calls for the establishment of a national authority on any part of Palestinian soil from which Israel withdraws or which is liberated.” (Radio Monte Carlo, 1 September 1993)

  • Ld_Elon_Postman_RoyalMale

    joo is NOT A race, joo is multicultural inbred ‘afro’ slav, And, Son of Man.

    joo is responsible for large ethnic cleansing over GLOBAL populus.
    WE know this already khazar.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, joo is also a cult, no need to recognise ANY cult.

    Aryanpu.

  • suenad

    MEM & there MB ( Moslem Brotherhood) propaganda. You are very funny & exposed. Your logic is foil & void.

  • KOKOU AZIABA

    I can’t understand Arabs’ obsession with Jerusalem; they mean they don’t have god in Mecca. No religion on this EARTH is behaving like that. No other religion is prostituting at another religion holy places ; big shame